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Here I am in the USA Los Angeles and I am covering the AMD next gaming Horizon event and today they've announced two new graphics cards and that is the RX 5700 and the RX 5700 X T now spec wise these are both 7 nanometer GPUs and they've got 40 compute units and 36 compute units between the both of them they also use a gigabytes of gddr5 4 in vega 56 has been cut down dramatically spec wise i'll pull these specs up for you guys where they also talk about their new rDNA architecture and how its radically changed versus the GCN architecture now both these graphics cards will be released sometime in July they haven't given a civic date yet and as I'm doing this video they actually haven't given a exact price now that will be later today I believe but I will update the description with the pricing for you guys but on that note they have poised both these cards 250 750 700 XT versus the RT X 2060 and RT X 2070 now later today I am told there is a demo that I can go and check out where they're gonna be comparing the RT X 2060 versus the 5700 but without a side Microsoft also made a huge announcement with their next upcoming console which is going to be released in 2020 and they're gonna be using the new Zen 2 CPUs as well as this same architecture that's going into this PC desktop now that was a really cool announcement but I will say that I thought it wasn't as cool as Keanu Reeves coming out on the stage now besides these new GPUs coming to market and bringing some competition they've also announced some new technologies one of which is called an T lag now B being a person who loves a snappy experience a responsive PC and lowest input lag possible I'm going to checking out this technology and getting to the bottom of it and telling you guys what it's all about so that aside let's get into the video all right so what we have is a demo of anti leg it's a live demo and we're showing you that your click to response time with radion can be substantially lower than with the competition so anti leg is a software optimization what we're doing is we're making sure that the CPU work where your input is registered doesn't really get too far ahead of the GPU work or you're drawing the frame so that you don't have too much lag between when you click Mouse when you press the key and when you get the response out on the screen right that's the idea and what we're showing here is we've got an Arduino based latency testing setup this acts as a keyboard and it has a photo sensor on it and we have a little bit of software that responds to the keyboard input by changing the color of square that's on the screen that the photo sensor reads so it's basically looking at the input to response loop and on the competing card at about 60 frames per second we've got an input response loop of about 55 milliseconds whereas over here with Radeon anti-lag turned on same basic frame rate we're at 39 milliseconds of lag so that's the saving of 15 milliseconds almost a full frame at 60fps right 16.7 milliseconds per frame so that's basically what anti-lag can get you there's a whole chain of latency from your mouse to your display but the bit of it we can control we're able to reduce quite a bit with the anti lag and what if we went up to say 200m yes with it put it come the difference coming down a little bit well radio an anti leg is a GPU limited performance scenario benefit right so whenever you have a GPU limitation that's when you get the most benefit from it so if you're at 2:00 in the frames per second you may be CPU limited more than GPU limited the thing is even in those cases you may run into a spot where your GPU limited and so that benefit can come back when you're most needed so this is a look at Radeon image sharpening versus D LSS in battlefield 5 what we're doing here is we're comparing both image quality and performance as you know with DL SS they sort of you set it to 4k in the game but you turn that on and they render the lower resolution and do some work edge anti-aliasing upscaling and then then you get the result what we've done over here is we've set the game to run at 2560 by 1440 and we're upscaling with the GPU upscaler as you would any time you run a game and lower resolution than your display and then we've done the Radeon image sharpening to sort of draw out the contrast in the images sharpening happens and then up sampling afterwards that's actually the correct order so what you should see is you see crisper images here than here because I think we're probably rendering it Chris like maybe a higher resolution or a similar resolution plus were sharpening you should she not lots of nice detail but at the same time we have less performance overhead and DL SS has its own performance overhead that's pretty substantial in this case though they've now limited battlefield 5 so you have to have r-tx on as well and so there's even more performance hit right so you get from 40 frames per second to 93 frames per second but I think that you'll see in terms of image quality this is probably a nicer option and in terms of performance I don't think there's any question so here we are now we're running the RCX 2060 in Far Cry 5 I think it is vs. the RX 5700 this is a 1440p high settings so we're going to quickly go over now to the results when this Ben Mark's finished and see how they compare but I'm also going to quickly change it down to 1080p and see how those results scale so we can see the difference between 1080p and 1440p scaling quickly for you guys on these two GPUs alright brother what do you think of the 5700 X 250 780 has some promising and assuming I am these presentations accurate some promising reduction in power requirement I'm a little saddened that the loss of some of the overclocking features for extreme overclocking I'll talk about that more later but the BIOS is locked waiting for information on the power stages but the GPU itself sounds like it should be shouldn't be promising compared to Vega especially because you're looking at 40 C use versus 64 and they saw a performance increase in a power reduction so I'd say that's that's looking promising 700 XT okay me if they're going at a different direction the architecture looks interesting I have to play with one I don't know it's interesting how much emphasis they put on how different it is from GCN like they went out of their way to make sure that we understood that this is something that a lot of work has gone into and it's not GCN it looks like it's gonna be well I mean everything depends on pricing which we don't know so it looks like it's a cool product but everything depends on pricing in terms of like will they sell a million or ten million are you gonna free a little I probably will just to test it but you should don't pray for her are you gonna pre-order the 5700 XT no I think so far we've got to see reviews but it's looking really good it's gonna some people are gonna be not you know twenty atti but what's gonna make it as price performance I think is pretty damn good looking like a twenty seven competitor 2060 they're pitching it there if that all matches up and the price is right and PCIA four with Rison it's like the whole package it's the whole package and you know it's it's a good looking good I mean III overall it's like what can you say you can't you can't be disappointed unless it's too expensive you never pre-order until you see reviews you always have to worry for reviews but you know it's I'm pleasantly I'm confident I mean that the power looks pretty pretty good you know you always kind of wish you were the most badass card in the world but hey you realistically these are the parts of people wise so yeah I think so so we'll see all right oh yeah thanks busy world let go so this is something we saw at Computex with the PCIe Gen 4 and that's essentially just a band with a lot highest so in this case they're doing a a K Pro res demo and it essentially won't stutter on the pci h n4 bus but when you put it on the pci gen3 because it's just such a huge resolution it will then start up on PCIe gen3 obviously having more bandwidth on PCIe Gen 4 is always a good thing if you're an 8k video editor so now we're on to the next demo on this one is the fidelity FX filter and what this essentially does is this is a 1440p monitor and it'll grab an image at 1080p and then upscale it to 1440p but also in the process apply sharpening so you won't get the natural 1440p image but you will get better than standard 1080p upscaling but also getting the performance and frame rates of 1080p now I am trying this demo out and it of course doesn't look as good as 1440p but it doesn't look bad either so it is a good compromise if for instance a new game comes out and you don't want to play it at a particular fps setting and you want to get more frames how do you GPU then you can do that but of course take a little bit of a quality hit but not much of a quality hit as opposed to jumping up to 1440p if that makes any sense and there's the Radeon 5700 XT in this actual system right now powering this so here's the next technology that AMD has with the Navi GPUs and it's called DSC or display stream compression and now I'm gonna move over to Michael who's going to explain this technology a little bit better yeah so the monitor that we have on the left here is running chroma subsampling in order to achieve 120 Hertz basically DisplayPort doesn't handle anything over about 95 Hertz without going into chroma subsampling which basically preserves luminance but it messes up the color so with displaced stream compression DSC which is what we have on the right we can go up to 144 Hertz and we can still maintain good color quality and that's what we're demonstrating here is basically that now with the new Navi board we support display stream compression so it's able to handle up to 144 Hertz or indeed even higher and still have it be supporting 10-bit color all the while whereas on the left here we've got you know 8-bit color essentially you know as it's going into chroma subsampling well it's exclusive to the new knobby for us it is for right you know Verizon or scuse me for Radeon and there it all is with the rx 5700 and the XT now the card itself got to look at that and it felt like it was pretty good quality I mean the reference blower design is there but I must say in the last few years a lot of companies have been making the reference design coolers a lot quieter and in this case the fan does look a little bit bigger than usual so you can expect this thing to be pretty quiet and I saw it in the test rigs and they even though they'll prototype models they were looking pretty good but of course we're going to wait on the pricing with these cards that is everything and as I said before when we're doing some of those interviews were making jokes about pre-ordering but basically guys don't pre-order until these things are on our test bed and we can give you guys a proper analysis on how well they perform not just in price performance but the overall experience as well some other important details with the 5700 - and also the xt is that there won't be on day one initially cost AIB partner board cards they will have the reference design out but they won't have those custom models until a little bit later and as gamers Nexus said before the interviews the V bias is locked and how this is going to affect overclocking especially on the cheaper variant the 5700 we don't know yet until we're actually able to test these things I hope it doesn't limit overclocking too much especially on that cheaper variant where a lot of people are going to want to get that simply for a value for money play and one more thing they did talk about was rate racing as well they're gonna have a hardware based rate racing acceleration but when I heard that and then I heard that coupled with three years I sort of kind of shut off so it's sort of like seems like it's more of a pipeline thing at the moment that's going to come later so I wouldn't really be buying the fifty seven hundred or the XT for its rate racing abilities just quite yet though it is good to see that AMD is not just focusing on CPUs which I will have a video coming out a little bit later about the whole CPU thing especially the sixteen core that being announced and it's coming in two months after the twelve core and all the rest of the SKUs that are up there so that's a little bit interesting I think no one expected a two-month delay I was looking at more of a six-month delay but of course with rumors and leaks nothing's ever certain until it's out of the horse's mouth with that said we're still getting video and they're gonna go hard with their announcement at e3 I mean I think after AMD stole the short computex I think it's gonna be a case of at e3 Jensen versus Lisa sue so that's going to be pretty interesting to see but one thing regardless of all this and that is competition as we've always set around here at IKEA City is a good thing and at the end of the day we the consumers end up winning when competition is abound and without said I hope you guys enjoyed this video if you did you know what to do hit that like button for us also let us know in the comment section below are you looking forward to the navi GPUs or you're looking forward to more the CPUs from AMD love reading your thoughts and opinions as always and let us know what you think of the anti lag thing I actually thought it was pretty cool gamers could definitely use more responsiveness in games and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now by you