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Where is Intel's i5-9400...!? 7nm Ryzen 3850X at 5GHz Coming in 2019....!?

2018-12-06
- Since the start of this December, I've been putting together some guides for you guys as well as building PCs, and at the moment when I look at the new PC parts, especially at CPUs, I see no other choice but to buy AMD Ryzen. And this got me scratching my head thinking, where is Intel's offerings to compete against AMD even before Christmas, and we're not even going to talk initially about the Ryzen 3000 series until later in the video. We're going to talk about right now, because there is no i5-8400 at a reasonable price. Over a year ago, I bought this CPU for $187 U.S. shipped, and at these prices it represented what I thought was the best value for money from Intel. You had six cores, six threads, you had that IPC, you had the power consumption being pretty low, and you even had an included cooler and then you can put that on a budget motherboard like a H310 and get some really good value for money. However skip forward to the end of this year, we now have no i5-9400 released. We don't even know when Intel or if Intel wants to release this CPU. And furthermore to compound the problem for Intel, Ryzen 5 2600 that's their six core, 12 threaded, overclockable CPU with an included cooler, is currently being had for $170 U.S. And if you're in Australia it's 208 Aussie dollars. So let's talk about the dominance that is AMD in 2018 and what looks like it's gonna be 2019 too. ♪ I can dream about you ♪ ♪ If I can't hold you tonight ♪ - Welcome back to Tech Yes City this is Bryan coming to you guys today from the hot af Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City. We've also got a part time drop in as well, and I gotta go out in few hours but before then got some spare time to record this video and what we're looking at in the market currently with AMD versus Intel, is complete dominance where reportedly in Germany, from mindfactory.de, AMD outsold Intel in November, two CPUs to one. And you can see in those graphs that the Ryzen 5 2600, more specifically is taking up a huge chunk of those sales which is great to see AMD not only being back in the game but actually outperforming the competitor. If you asked I guess anyone in the tech scene in 2014 if this scenario today was likely possible, everyone would've just said no way back before they announced Ryzen, everyone thought AMD was done. And what we're seeing now in the market is a scenario where AMD's putting their foot on the pedal and going full speed ahead. And Intel on the other hand seem like they're backing off. And when we look at the data, it looks like Intel in ways, maybe they've got those 10nm problems which we know about. But also the 14nm production is limited where they had to at least revert back to 22nm in some of their production assemblies. But I guess to further add fuel, or I guess rub sand in the wound, from AMD to Intel is that in 2019 the leaks for the Ryzen 3000 series are in the wild now, where we're looking at 16 cores and 32 threads in the $400 price bracket. Not to mention they are making the main di in those chips 7nms so we will see higher clock speeds reportedly to go as far as 5GHz and in some cases higher on a single core turbo boost but also better power efficiency too. So these chips will run cooler. And looking through some of the rumored SKUs I do have my doubts, and this is coming from both AdoredTV, who says he has an inside source, as well as Reddit and the main flagship looks like it will be 3850x coming in with 16 cores and 32 threads. And I do in ways a little bit doubt this that AMD would go mainstream with 16 cores, 32 threads. For starters it would kind of alienate their 2950x almost immediately and maybe make users who bought that platform feel a little bit left out. But also on top of that, that don't need to bring 16 cores, 32 threads quite yet I believe. I think if AMD were to go with the 12 core, 24 threaded CPU that would really add value to the market. Especially when you look at the ThreadRipper lineup series where their 12 cores aren't exactly selling too well, especially when you look at them compared to the 16 cores both on the 1000 series and 2000 series ThreadRipper chips. But also looking at the entry level Ryzen 3000 series low-level chips, they are looking like they will be six cores, so AMD does look like they wanna phase out four cores altogether. But this would still lead to the fact that AMD may be using a six core di, as opposed to a four core in the previous generations of Ryzen. So when we look at what the leaks are saying, and then we compare that to I guess, maybe just thinking about it logically, if AMD were to go with the 16 core part in 2019 I think it would be too much too soon, to the point where they'd kind of alienate, even further 2020 releases because they have hinted that after 2020 it is going to get difficult for them. And also when I was at events previously, I kind of got the hint that it would be a 12 core, 24 thread as opposed to a 16 core and a 32 threaded chip on the mainstream. Not to mention, what are they exactly gonna do with the memory controller as well. That remains to be seen because what we saw with the ThreadRipper WX chips, is that they were being a little bit starved in terms of bandwidth. Regardless of the leaks and what the contain, I will leave some links in the description below where you can go watch AdoredTV's video. Or you can go check out the Reddit leak itself, where there's sort of pretty strong on suggesting that there will be a 16 core, 32 threaded part. I'm sort of leaning more conservative, in that I think AMD won't push that hard in 2019 when they don't have a reason to, because when we look at even Intel, they're rumored to have a 10 core part coming out and they're going to use 14nm and if it's any suggestion from the 9900k, this chip is already running at the max capacity for the ring boss. I mean they got 8 core, 16 threads at 5GHz, and that thing is seriously having a tough time handling the heat. Not to mention the issues surrounding that. So going with 10 cores with Intel, is kinda like up in the air on what they're gonna do about that. Anyway all CPU things aside, AMD have a very healthy future coming out of 2018 and also going into 2019 with that 7nm design, they're definitely gonna hit some home runs. I can't wait to test these CPUs out, and who knows exactly when they're going to be released into the wild. But apparently we're going to get more news at CES so I'm really looking forward to giving you guys that. But also they've got the Navi GPUs which are going on 7nm as well, and this is a great time for AMD not just in the CPU lineup but also the GPU lineup because we've seen with the video, they've actually stagnated when it comes to their RTX series. And yes they offered these features, which I feel in my opinion were kind of useless for the market at the moment where they just tanked performance so much. But also when we look at the efficiency of the RTX architecture itself, with traditional DX11 titles, and pretty much any title out there, it's burning up more power and you are getting more FPS but really when it comes down to it, the 10 series is really holding its value, compared to the 20 series cards. So AMD in 2019 definitely have a chance to come back and hit home runs in the GPU lineup, just as much as they are hitting home runs currently, in the CPU division. Anyway with the Ryzen 3000 series I'm banking more on the fact that we will have a 12 core, 24 threaded flagship part. As well as they probably will phase out those four cores, I think the market is ready for six cores. It will segment them in a new field they will be ahead of Intel, especially in multithreaded applications, and the single-threaded performance if they can get those single core boost up to 5GHz, Intel is effectively going to be left in the dust. And of course they've still got a dominating hand in the server market but value's value and when that value starts to creep in to the server industry, I really see a good future ahead for AMD, especially with their current design with the Ryzen chips. [Electronic Music] Anyway guys let me know in the comments section below what you think about the competition between Intel and AMD, especially for the new parts. I don't think the Xeons and their use field are going anywhere. If anything if these chips are as good as they say they're gonna be, which is possible, then Xeon's are only gonna get cheaper too. So everyone's pretty much gonna win thanks to AMD and their Ryzen design. And I love reading your thoughts and opinions as always, so make sure you do drop a comment. If you enjoyed today's video, be sure to hit that like button. And I'll catch you in another tech video very soon, peace out for now. Bye. [Techno Music]
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