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over the last year Intel versus AMD especially for gaming has been debated and argued so much that I realized that I needed to do something and go to another level I needed to bust out the 1000 FPS camera and also my hacked up Mouse which I made a tutorial for and I put an LED light on it and this enables me to get more information that we've otherwise not had out in the same because I really wanted to answer the question of why does Intel perform better in games then the AMD rise in CPUs and I noticed a weird phenomenon too and that was when I tested the i5 8400 and compared it against the rise in 720 600 X and I overclocked that Rison system to 4.1 gigahertz and it was still losing to the i5 8400 at 3 point 8 gigahertz and this was a little bit confusing because especially in the Cinebench score you had a higher single-threaded score on the Rison system so not everything relates to a Cinebench score that's the first thing I realized but also today we're going to be taking a look at the top dogs from both sides the i7 8700 K which is hailed as the king of gaming and we're going to compare that against the horizon 7 2700 X at 4.2 gigahertz and we're using the same motherboard from the same company gigabyte we're also using the same memory exact same memory with the exact same XMP profiles on both systems as well as the same power supply and the same SSD which was reformatted in the same gtx 980ti so let's find out what we discover here welcome back to take your city in the first game we're gonna pull up for you guys is see us going in this result we've got the best frame possible on the 8700 K for all the testing here - that was nine milliseconds worst frame was 21 milliseconds average over ten runs was fifteen point four milliseconds moving over to the AMD side of things we had ten to twenty four milliseconds so only slightly better on the intel side it's a on average roughly a one millisecond gain from both these CPUs when we look at the FPS numbers they do show a big difference between the Intel system and the AMD system so you are scoring quite a significant advantage and this was the most responsive game out of all the games I tested here today and you're gonna see a bit of a correlation happening as we move over to the next game and that is ashes of the singularity best frame here was 33 milliseconds worst frame was 42 milliseconds averaged out at 37.3 move over to the Intel side of things 31 milliseconds best frame worst frame was actually 43 and that averaged out at 36 milliseconds so we did see an advantage of 1.3 million seconds on average and what we're seeing here with the FPS on this game was the Intel was beating the AMD system by a little bit when we look over that risin 5 system versus the i5 8400 this was where the risin 5 did score a victory but ironically enough this was the slowest game out of all the games I tested here today in other words the engine wasn't as responsive so you do an action the output of it is going to be delayed compared to competitive multiplayer titles like csgo for example but moving over to the next game we had here dota 2 a very popular mobile here on the Intel side we had the best-case scenario being 17 milliseconds worst case scenario being 31 this averaged out at 27 point 4 milliseconds and then we look at the AMD side we got 21 to 30 3 milliseconds averaging out at 29 the FPS in this game also did favor the Intel and we look at the difference in fps it wasn't a huge difference but again with dota 2 it wasn't as responsive as csgo or even some of the other titles that I'm going to be pulling up for you guys I move over to GTA 5 we saw the 8700 K have a best-case scenario of 15 milliseconds worst case was 25 milliseconds this averaged out to 21.2 milliseconds moving over to the AMD side of things this had a best case in our of 16 milliseconds worst case an hour of 27 averaging out to twenty-three point three milliseconds when we look at the FPS difference it does again favor the 8700 K when we do lower the graphical settings to specifically stress the CPU to give you guys the data that you want to know but interesting enough sometimes the FPS and GTA v is too high that apparently according to the game developers can break the engine and what this does with the point one percent low is that's your anomaly frames makes them lower than CPUs that aren't scoring as high an average fps next up here we've got overwatch a very competitive multiplayer online FPS from Blizzard now Blizzard are very well known for optimizing their titles especially for PC Rison does score very well here getting 279 average FPS versus the Intel CPU which is closing in at 300 FPS it is worth noting however this game does have a 300 FPS cap when we look at the millisecond times here the best-case scenario for the 2700 X was 17 milliseconds West case was 34 and we scored an average of 24 point H move over the Intel side of things we got a best-case in RF 15 and a worst-case of 31 and the average was twenty one point nine milliseconds and with this game in particular we'll just I guess never know how much extra FPS the 8,700 cake could have got though not to worry I did decide to throw in one more curveball to all this testing because I wanted to know how far cry 5 ran which is in the past Far Cry primal has shown heavily skewed results - especially the ring buss CPU not exactly Intel CPUs because the mesh architecture I 9 for example doesn't do anywhere near as well as the 8700 K and this game did again skew the results heavily to Intel we sawed 180 average FPS with a minimum of 150 versus a hundred and 38 with the minimum of the 114 now when it came to the results this was quite a responsive game however the average milliseconds here was twenty eight point one on the AMD side versus twenty four point nine on the Intel site so that FPS difference was making it difference in terms of the actual input lag itself with the worst frame remained e-beam 20 milliseconds best frame being 34 milliseconds then on the intel side it was 17 milliseconds than the worst case in our have been 27 milliseconds so now of course you're probably sitting on your chair and wondering what does all this data mean Brian well I'm gonna try my best to explain it I couldn't find a heavy correlation between the games responsiveness and how well a CPU performs in that particular game though the data did suggest slightly that the more lag year a game is the better an AMD CPU will perform in relation to an Intel CPU though the more responsive a game engine is in general the better an Intel ring bus CPU will perform and I put an emphasis on ring bus that's like the eighth generation 8700 K 80 480 100 for example they are the ring bus architecture the i-9s for example of the mesh architecture and what we got here at the 8700 k is something that is so snappy yet still has six cores and twelve threads now on average we are seeing the numbers showing that it does perform better and not just FPS but also the total input lag itself so if you're a competitive gamer of course 1 or 2 milliseconds probably isn't going to matter a whole lot but if you add that up over all your gear if it's 2 milliseconds here 2 milliseconds there 2 milliseconds everywhere it'll probably make a difference in tournaments especially so it's just one of those extra things to think about if you are a competitive gamer you do want to get the at most highest fps possible but you don't want to be doing it to the extent where you're wasting too much time I guess that's where guys like me come in who love doing these tests love the hardware and seeing what it's all about so if I had to make a recommendation it would be that both CPUs I fidget here are absolutely fine for gaming however one does have an edge over the other and it's because of its architecture not just its IPC when we look at the Cinebench scores for example there's actually a bit more to it and in that the latency zhan the CPUs themselves are so important and the faster CPU out at the moment is the 8700 okay and that's what my results have showed here today and this is why it's the gaming King because when a program or a game for example that requires lower latencies takes advantage of a CPU like an 8700 K and it's going to perform better in games and I'd say arguably a competitive gamer is the person who needs that higher FPS as opposed to someone who's just casually playing on a 1080p monitor they're not really going to notice the difference they're not where they're gonna care but if you are that competitive Pro and you are playing for money then it might be worth their time re watching this video anyway guys I hope you enjoyed this one if you did then be sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comment section below if you have any questions I'm probably sure you have a lot of questions I'm just new to this testing I find it fascinating I'm gonna be testing many more things because imagine if you've got a 1 to 2 millisecond difference in games when it comes to things like Adobe Premiere Pro for example if you're editing a video and you're saving 2 milliseconds on every single action you do you're doing 60 actions per minute for example that's going to amount to time saved over the course of you editing your video and that's one thing we don't do as bench markers when we do those numbers the final render times we don't take into account the actual live action and the time you could save there so maybe things weren't just all in my head in the past when I said the 8700 K or the Intel CPUs felt snappy Oh anyway guys hope you enjoyed this one I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye