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X3430 ($7) Vs. X3440 ($18) Xeon - Is Hyper Threading WORTH $11!?

2018-06-16
recently here on the channel they built three pcs one of them had a P 7 P 55 D motherboard from a Zeus this is the LGA 1156 socket and it supports 2 Zeon's in particular that are extremely good value for money one coming in at $7 this is the X 30 for 30 and the other coming in at current market price of $18 that's the X 30 for 40 these are readily available on the market you can buy them from Aliexpress and they're overclockable even with budget motherboards like H 55 which are also readily available for like $50 and so I was going back through the comments and one of them said why don't I compare the $18.00 CPU against the $7 CPU and I thought to myself that's a very good idea I wish I'd read this sooner and that's exactly what we're gonna be doing here today with a 780ti which I believe are at least in my experience is one of the best value for money used graphics cards you can get on the market that delivers exceptional performance so just how big of a difference is there between these two Zeon's let's find out so first things first with these little Zeon's we're actually gonna be deleting both the X 30 for 30 and the X 34 40 and the reason being is this was actually the first generation or one of the first generations where Intel was putting thermal paste between the integrated heat spreader and the die so yes they were doing this long before ivy bridge and it's even the same with the i7 860 who would that aside let's get on to taking the lids off you see what better safe than sorry cuz you do scare to hit the ground my sea dog but you know that I'm so I just got a new vice and the first deal it attempted it was successful I mean the PCBs not harmed but the poor IHS did get a bit of over cranked so now it's bent unfortunately doesn't have ECC on board so now CPUs are all deleted and ready to overclock I'm actually using a different board this time around the UD 3p instead of the P 7 P 55 D as that could only go up to around 190 bays clock this however should go a little bit higher I'm hoping it will and then I'll enable us to get 4 gigahertz we're also using the hyper for 1 1 are cool master send this in as a budget CPU cooler so I'm gonna see how that performs with these 4 cores as well so this at this cool master for one one hour actually won't fit this motherboard and that's mainly because the motherboard has this permanently attached backplate so we can't bring up the screws in so it can attach otherwise we have the replacement here anyway so this is the vtg Aliexpress water core this will actually fit so we're gonna mount that now and use that for the tests so here we are now a conclusion time and the motherboard and the CPUs how did they overclock well the X 34 40 got 2 4 gigahertz at 200 base clock any higher than that even bumping the IMC and even bombing the CPU over generously that still didn't allow to get to 4.1 or even 4.2 for example however the temperatures were very controlled on both these deleted CPUs max was like 59 degrees and then over the X 30 for 30 that was like 58 degrees so the temperatures were very controlled and speaking of the X 30 for 30 managed to get that to 4 gigahertz as well but keep in mind the base clock was a little bit higher it was two hundred and ten megahertz on the motherboard and so this will enable the qpi speeds for example to be a little bit higher and so you'll see in games this does score a little bit of an advantage for the four core four threaded CPU versus the more expensive four core eight threaded CPU now for the graphics card we're using the GTX 780 Ti this is clocked with an overclock of 116 megahertz on the core 326 megahertz on the memory now I did set the fan speeds to 100% just to weed out any variance as well and pulling out the first benchmark here Cinebench would just quickly get this out the way with 612 CB on the x 34 40 multi-threaded test and 121 on the single thread versus the x 34 30s 462 and 121 so scoring identical on single thread moving over to the dota 2 average FPS 188 vs. 192 0.1% low of 44 verses 36 1% low of 73 vs 76 so there's going pretty much neck and neck in dota 2 and there actually is a bit of variance in this benchmark itself move over to the which at 360 FPS cap on this game low settings at 1080p we managed to score 60 average FPS on both these CPUs 43 versus 45 on the 1% lows and 16 versus 17 so the point on descent loads this game just has some inherent stuttering it's a really bad game in my opinion to benchmark I might drop it from the benchmark catalog let me know what you think in the comments section below moving over to csgo however this is a game with the X 30 for 30 scored a victory 285 average FPS versus 270 and the 0.1% loads and 1% lows were virtually identical here so this game I believe it's called the victory for the fork or for threaded sea for you the cheaper variant because of that CPU and motherboard higher base clock overclock of 210 versus 200 the memory speeds on the ddr3 that was 1600 megahertz nine nine nine twenty eight and it was a little bit higher on the x thirty four thirty due to that ten extra megahertz on the base clock however movie out of Far Cry five intensive game 78 average FPS on the X 34 40 verses 79 on the X thirty 43068 versus 69 so basically the same X thirty four thirty did just edged it out slightly did test this multiple times as well and since it is a pre can benchmark you're gonna get the same benchmark Apple staples every time and then movie with a last game here we've got project cars to did a couple of runs here on a custom map 98 average FPS versus 96 78 versus 67 74 versus 48 so the X 34 40 in this benchmark I believe scored the victory especially with the point one percent lows did run a little bit smoother so that's maybe a benefit of it using more cause more threads I did notice in project cars - it was utilizing those causes for calls for threads on the X 30 for 30 near 100% - so basically when you look at it there wasn't a big difference between these two GPUs ones like literally coming close to seven bucks the others coming close to eight bucks but one does have a little bit more potential than the other and that's the X 34 40 but if all you're doing is coupling it with a graphics card that gets a fire strike score under 10,000 points for example say a seventy eight seventy or gtx 1050 or a tempeh DTI even then something like the x 34 30 is still so relevant especially if you're on a budget and those ten dollars matter to you x 34 40 however does have a bit more potential but the reason i covered it with a 780ti here today is because I believe it's like one of the most higher-end grabs cards that you would want a couple with the CPU this cheap for instance I wouldn't recommend anyone couple of GTX 1080 or GTX 1080i with the likes of an $18 CPU I mean if you're gonna spend $500 plus on a graphics card please do yourself a favor and spend a little bit more on your CPU but in terms of the 612 Cinebench score that's getting awfully close to I 737 70 for example so you can see the potential of these old zealand's especially their price point and especially given that you can pick up a cheap age 55 or a cheap p55 motherboard just shows you how good of a value for money cpu these old things really are and they can still get up and boogie now as for the D lid I used the lid off on i-35 30 that surprisingly was thermal paste on one side and sold it on the other don't really know what's going on there but I pulled that apart and it was really cool to see because I then am using that lid now on the X 30 for 30 and it's working absolutely fine I do recommend deleting these CPUs and you will get a temperature drop of 10 degrees plus as in the previous video I had a non deleted x 34 40 that was scoring close to 70 degrees and that was only at 3.8 Giga so if pumping more voltage with pumping higher speeds and we're not even getting over 60 degrees so very good CPUs even to this date now of course the question is still out there what CPU would I pick out of the XC 430 in the X 30 440 honestly it just really depends on your budget I buy both these CPUs and I buy a lot of them because they're both really good value for money I'd say as I said before if you're going with a lower end gravis card X 34 30 is gonna be absolutely fine save yourself a few bucks but if you're going with like a 780ti or even an ion 290x and you still want to save money x 34 40 or even the x 34 60 or x 3470 are both really good choices anyway guys hope you enjoyed this video if you did then be sure to hit that like button let me know in the comment section below if you got any questions about either of these little baby Zeon's I love them both I love you guys and I'll catch an another tech video very soon peace out for now they sixty-eight so here we are right here with the rig the previous video that was uh [Laughter]
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