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here on the desk we've got three flagship CPUs from both team red and team blue starting off with the 2990 WX a 32 core 64 threaded beast and this is coming in two currently 2643 Aussie dollars if you're in America at 1729 US dollars then beside that is the 79 80 XE which was released in quarter three of 2017 and since then has had a refresh which is the 99 80 XE and that's currently coming in around two thousand nine hundred and seventy nine dollars if you're in Australia or in the US around about two thousand USD flat so these prices these CPUs are definitely a very big consideration if you're getting into the market and today we're gonna go over a lot of different benchmarks for you guys with stock figures both out of the box and overclocked as well which is very important because me personally in my workstations I overclocked my machines they're completely stable I haven't had one crash out of my 8 core in the background there but before we do get on with the benchmarking I was actually curious about the differences between these two 18 core parts what has changed in this refresh and I was actually quite surprised to see that Intel we're using stim on this so that's the soldiering between the diet and the IHS and I'll show you guys some quick temperature tests here where the stim version the 99 ad XE performed a lot better in terms of temperatures it allowed overclocking to be smooth with of course out d letting the cpu which on a purchase this big I would seriously consider not D living it because you will void the warranty and on a CPU like this the last thing you need to do is lose that massive investment but besides the temperatures we've also apparently gone from 14 nanometer plus to 14 nanometer plus plus where they've changed the transistor gate pitch from 70 nanometer to 84 which allows for easier overclocking and more stability at those higher clock speeds and speaking of these CPUs and / clocks I'm clocking the 18 core variants both to 4.4 gigahertz each and then we're overclocking the 2990 WX 23.8 I did try to get more out of the twenty nine nine WX but the board just switched off because it was just drawing too much power after those levels and for the memory we're using the corsair dominator RGB platinum across all these three different CPUs so we're gonna give them apples to apples to apples comparison and with all that said let's roll those benchmarks for you guys and then come back and look at everything in between with these three flagships and so there's the benchmarks finished I'm gonna break this down section by section and the first thing we'll get out of the way with is the gaming benchmarks because they're not that important for me personally and if you're in the market for a CPU of this caliber and this price I believe gaming shouldn't be your top priority as you can get cheaper options from both team blue and team red it'll perform much better in games that also save you a lot more money if you wish to see those reviews up with the 9900 Kay review up here and also the 2700 X review but with that other way csgo 1080p high settings out of the box $2.99 ATX II did perform a little bit better than the 79 80 X II which then perform better than the 2990 WX however it is important to know that twenty nine ninety WX has gotten a lot smoother since when it was first released and I did notice this when I first tested out the twenty nine ninety WX was a little bit of a mess but since then windows have updated their scheduler and it is performing a lot smoother in games next up here we had Tom Clancy's Rainbow six siege another online competitive multiplayer title where arguably getting the most FPS possible is pretty important especially if you are in competitive play and here is where the 18 core variants perform pretty much identical even out of the box which I was quite surprised where the 99 80 XE is meant to have a 200 megahertz higher base clock than the 79 80 XE but in this benchmark they did perform a very similar and then they both beat out the 2990 W X again but just like I said in csgo 2990 W X is still a very smooth experience now as for a streaming benchmark all three of these CPUs are geared up towards streaming since they do have a lot of headroom a lot of wiggle room and so here's the streaming benchmarks here but we can see a similar trend although you are just dropping off a bit of FPS on all three CPUs anyway gaming aside let's get on to productivity benchmarks first up we had encoding with handbrake and out of the box the 79 80 XE and the 99 80 XE perform very similar and Rison thread Ripper was the twenty nine ninety WX a little bit memory bound here I believe scoring these same scores out of the box versus the overclocked settings and so this was a little bit disappointing to see but of course that quad channel memory mix with 32 cores does have limitations in some benchmarks but moving on to 7-zip the compression and decompression numbers the compression numbers were in favor of the 18 core variants and then moving on to the 32 covariant this is a bit of an art kilise hill on the compression side but the decompression side was very impressive scoring over 190,000 points both out of the box settings and overclock so again we are still reaching a memory bottleneck there on the 2990 WX as opposed to the Intel CPUs which did a lot better on the decompression side wants to be overclocked moving on to the Geekbench multi did confirm something about the 79 80 X E and the azuz deluxe 2x 299 motherboard and this is a refreshed x2 99 motherboard and that was that it was favoring the 79 80 X e out of the box giving it some enhancements via a BIOS tweaks but you'll see that won't relate to all these benchmark scores here a little bit later but it was beating out the 99 ATX er to the box but when we overclocked it we got very similar scores at 4.4 gigahertz vs. 4.4 gigahertz the Rison chip did very well out of the box on the single thread score with these stock settings where it boosts up to over 4.2 gigahertz on the single core speeds and then the 3.8 gigahertz coming well behind that score and then the multi-core score of doing pretty much the same with again a memory bottleneck being realized with 3.8 gigahertz versus the old core speeds out of the box of around 3.15 gigahertz on the 2990 WX however the next benchmark Korona 1.3 really showed whether 2990 WX flexes its muscles and this is going to be a very important benchmark as well as a few others in relation to the conclusion with these two CPUs but here we've got 37 seconds versus the best score of 44 seconds on the both 18 cores at 4.4 gigahertz and the 99 80 X II was performing better than the 79 80 XE out of the box in this particular benchmark moving out of speedometer we saw some results in favor of the Intel CPUs where higher is better in this particular benchmark it's essentially a web browser benchmark based off Java and we got a score of 70 7.1 at 4.4 gigahertz and about 76 eight so they're roughly performing the same the 18 core variants and then the twenty nine ninety WX was falling a little bit behind Adobe Premiere Pro however is another area where the Intel chips do very strong they do have that optimization especially for knife gen architecture and here on eleven minute and forty-five second is the recent spell break video I did which is very up to date has a lot of transitions and effects we can see here that the thirteen minute and 55 seconds score out of the box was pretty much replicated on both the eighteen cause with it out of the box settings and then when we overclocked it we got pretty much the same settings yet again which did beat these Red River chips since all those eighteen calls are being utilized as efficiently as possible we didn't see much of a difference between all these chips when now out of the box and overclocked in those scores per se but one thing I will add to Adobe Premiere Pro especially these benchmarks is that for me personally it's very important when I'm scrubbing through footage that I have the smoothest experience possible and here's where the 18 chord did Excel especially when it was overclocked it was just running through 4k footage even at full render on live scrubbing absolutely no problems at all the 2990 WX did struggle a little bit here and it was noticeable compared to the Intel counterpart moving to Cinebench this is where the 32 core variant really comes out on top those out of the box and overclocked it could really spread its wings getting a max score of five thousand seven hundred and eighty and then the Intel variant still did pretty well when they were overclocked getting around four thousand two hundred and seventy points the single core scores were better on the Intel's both overclocked and out of the box getting about four point one gigahertz with stock factory settings and then that four point four gigahertz really coming out ahead the resin thread ribbon chip with its single called boost at stock settings did go to around four to four point one seven five gigahertz which then did beat out these three point eight gigahertz manual overclock but now to another simulated 3d rendering benchmark this is v-ray where the twenty nine ninety WS did come out on top where lower is better in this particular case with twenty three seconds and then twenty eight seconds out of the box the intial eighteen cause when they overclocked got twenty nine seconds and then 37 and 39 seconds respectively so those as OOOs like two enhancements what working on the 79 80 XE in this particular benchmark but the GPUs scores were pretty much all similar across the board the ever clock scores getting slightly better numbers in this particular scenario and then on to the last particular benchmark here 3dmark time spy extreme where we're looking in particular to the CPU physics scores where the best scores were done by the 1980 XP at four point four gigahertz manual overclock and the 79 80 X 80 coming slightly behind we'll talk about this very soon and why this is and the thread river chips still doing very well but that was better when it was out of the box versus when it was overclocked so again perhaps that quad-channel memory limitation on 32 cores is coming into effect in this particular benchmark anyway guys pulling up reference to that last benchmark 3dmark time spy extreme and why would the 79 ATX he perform slightly below at 4.4 gigahertz well once I looked into it and did some temperature tests and stress test with i-264 well again pull up those temperatures the 79 80 Hz at 4.4 gigahertz manual overclocked with 1.2 volts was being thermal throttled as opposed to the 99 ATX II which was well under that thermal throttle limit didn't even get to 90 degrees on any single core where as opposed to the 79 80 XC that got to a hundred and ten degrees and it was throttling actually four percent after stress testing it for over ten minutes and this has to do with the thermal paste released on the seventh gen chip versus the knife gen chip which is using that stem and the solder interface material between the die and the IHS so this is making a massive difference to the overclocks and temperatures which will help with stability as for the three rubber chip the temperatures were fine but as I said in the intricate end to get this thing to 3.8 gigahertz before the whole motherboard just tripped out as for the cooler we're using the Animax variant versus the Intel side where I was using the corsair RGB platinum so the temperatures aren't really an apples-to-apples comparison against the two different AMD versus Intel architectures but though temperatures were both fine on the latest release chips though in relation to power consumption here's where things get a little bit tricky because efficiency pretty much goes out the window on all three of these CPUs once you start overclocking weensy the out-of-the-box settings we're actually very well control hold on these 79 80 XE moving over the 99 8 exe that was getting a higher clock speed as well as getting 344 watts from the wall and then these thread River chip was getting 386 but when we overclocked the thread River chip that was going up to 640 watts the Intel was going up to 494 watts on the 99 80 XE and then the 79 80 X he was getting 534 watts and this was both at 4.4 gigahertz so the new refresh is more efficient and I mean you'd expect it to be since it is being released over a year later but it is good to see that you can get higher over clocks with lower temperatures but also lower power consumption at the same time in terms of idle power consumption the 99 80 XE out of the box went to as low as seventy eight watts which was very impressive and very surprising considering it is 18 cores quad channel memory was installed and the motherboard does carry a pretty big chipset but speaking of chipsets and the support we've got 44 PCIe lanes on both the 18 core variants versus 60 PCIe lanes on the thread Ripper 2990 WX also another difference worth mentioning between the Intel and AMD chips is that the Intel chips do carry avx-512 instruction set the 2990 WX doesn't carry that but real-world applications for me personally I didn't really encounter any so I don't know if that's a factor but it is something worth mentioning especially if you're putting this amount of money on the table for a CPU so of course now we're coming down to the conclusion of which is the better CPU and this is one of those comparisons where it's really not a clear winner you can't just say this one is just straight better than the other as we can see in some of those benchmarks the 2990 WX with 32 cores 64 threads can be utilized in certain applications and if you can utilize all those calls and threads and that's all you do and that's probably going to be a better CPU for you but that's for the 99 80 XE that is a beast all round it does everything very well there was not one bottleneck that we came into as opposed to the 2990 WX that quad-channel memory with 32 cores is a limiting factor especially when we overclock it in certain applications the Intel CPU doesn't have any bottlenecks whatsoever and the single core thread speeds us very impressive for an 18 core pod so it pretty much comes down to this the 99 ATX II is a better CPU than the 79 80 XE it's got all those improvements so I wouldn't even consider the older seventh gen chip unless you could get it for a much cheaper price but as for the knife gen versus the 2990 WH that all comes down to the question of you the user what do you want to do with these CPUs what is your intention they're going to be better at different things for me personally and my workflow being predominantly Adobe as well as doing some multitasking the 18 core 99 ATX II would be a better choice but of course if you're a 3d renderer and Maya for example you might be out of benefit out of the twenty nine ninety WX getting a single license and utilizing all those 32 cause you guys hope you enjoyed the flagship versus refresh flagship versus the red flagship if you did then be sure to hit that like button also let us know in the comments section below what do you think about these CPUs all these core counts all these threads love reading your opinions as always and with that said I'll catch you guys in another tech video very soon if you enjoyed this one you may wish to consider subscribing hitting that Bell notification or if you want that inside scoop before it even gets to YouTube I'm posting up stories and pictures on Instagram check us out there tech yes City and also as a disclaimer the 99 80 XE is a lone sample I do have to return that the twenty nine ninety WX is a review sample that I've kept from last year and I'll catch you guys next time he's out for now bye you