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Water Cooled i7-4770K Haswell Ghost Build: Overclocking & ASUS 4-Way Optimization

2013-06-08
hey what's up Tech fans welcome back to tech of tomorrow I'm Miller care host we're here for some swordplay with JJ from Asus but that's not why we're really here we're here to take a look at a suite three and four way optimization on the latest asus motherboard so with that said let's hop in and let's do us some videos alright so hey did you before we actually jump into the video let's talk a little bit about the test system that you brought along to do today's vid sure we've got an awesome system here to kind of let us showcase the four-way optimization technology which we're going to be showing you and as part of that we've got of course a great set of cooling components and some overclock ability here so let's go ahead and break this down so of course chassis wise we've got bit Phoenix's ghost chassis so that's a great room enclosure gives us a lot of flexibility cable management for the water cooling configuration that's cooling our fourth generation Core series processor 4770k you've got coolant cz's EXO's 2 755 fully integrated closed-loop solution and then we've got Qantas high-performance water block solution the 370 and they have a newer model of 380 for the fluid it's a super special fluid that we're utilizing it's Mayhem's Aurora gold with a little bit of yellow dye in there to just give it that much more luster awesome pearlescent kind of a fluid that we have here in terms of the motherboard we've got the z87 deluxe as far as the GPU we've got our brand new GTX 670 direct cu mini graphics card powering the entire thing in terms of a power supply we have C Sonic's 860 XP 80 + platinum PSU for Kingston we've gone ahead and tapped their high performance hyper X beast memory 21:33 4 dims and then for the SSD side of the fence who golf's we've got Kingston's hyper X 120 gigabyte 3k SSDs - in a raid 0 and rounding it out in terms of our storage for our OD d is we have one of our bc or combo blu-ray drives so that pretty much represents everything we have and it's also going to give us a great example of what a high performance system is going to be able to do in terms of overclocking when we go ahead and initialize our 4 way optimization technology right on alright so with that said let's transition over and let's actually check out by folks who are in the Windows environment and JJ is now going to show us the AI suite three set of software applications right doc a few guys that have been following us for a long time you guys are very familiar with AI suite as a whole if we had our first generation as suite then we had a sp2 and now we have ai suite three so ai suite is actually our fully encompassing system utility which covers everything from power management to fan control functionality to offer overclocking functionality and power management adjustment so that along with the course our complementary features like USB 3 boost USB charger plus our network I control all that is integrated into this so you can see right off the bat now we did we've brought up the actual it's got a whole new screen correctly brought up ATI Suite 3 and the GUI has been entirely revamped and redesigned so it has a much more kind of modern kind of overlay feel you know it looks like a heads-up display you know it's very sharp clean modern looking moves naming it maybe has a little bit of a gaming vibe but definitely has a technological vibe to it and so our team worked very hard and giving you a great a great kind of GUI to be able to not only see your information be able to work through so at the bottom here we have a persistent level of information that's presented so we have CPU frequency we have DRAM frequency we can go ahead and expand on that we can show all our CPU utilization in real time we have all course all our for spending voltages our temperature information and our fan speeds now one thing I do want to go ahead and know is sometimes people wonder why they sometimes might see a difference between our fan speeds and then the fan speed excuse me on the CPU temperature information that's reported by our program as well as the CPI information that might be reported by a third party program and this is because we actually have our own way that we create the temperature that's reported we have a thermistor so actual a mechanism to read temperature built into the CPU socket and we then take temperature information that's fed by the CPU and we adjust that for what's called the T castes the T caste is the plating that's on top of the CPU die and then we provide you an approximated offs that are an average of that temperature it's much more realistic than the actual temperature that's reported just from what's called the DTS sensors that are inside the CPU and the reason why this is its internal well it's it's more representative of your ambient configuration the DTS sensors that are inside the CPU are actually not designed for a hundred percent accurate monitoring of temperature they're actually built in there for the measurement of throttle like so base of your CPU is getting too hot it knows a slam back a little bit so it doesn't burn right down correct as well as to take advantage of Intel's turbo technology so it kind of knows when to ramp up and when to ramp down because part of that measurement system is based on temperature so this is an important distinction because a lot of sometimes people perceive that it's always going to be 100% accurate and that's not necessarily correct so this is why we have our temperature report in one way but of course you can feel free to monitor it in multiple ways from there of course we have a configuration parameter where you can go in and make adjustments to all the corresponding sensor values in terms of points where you want it to alert you if there's going to be a point that it goes below or goes above and that's all adjustable within this environment now JG compared to like the BIOS um what is your actually control inside of this compared to like like for overclocking do you have as much flexibility in this or is this kind of like a lightweight program for you just to use in the Windows environment as you know doc actually all too well we a hundred percent giving you really the same level of depth and control because part of our design has always been about giving you the same vs. versatility and flexibility in the operating system that we give you in the UEFI so options such as the multiplier the clock speeds the voltages that's all adjustable and we're going to show that quickly here when we jump in the TPU section so rounding out the initial interface here we have our forward optimization which we're going to show here in a moment but we of course have our tpo performance data our fan expert optimization data DIGI+ power optimization data information and epu and all this is going to be calibrated when we actually go into for optimization and of course we have some quick profiles now if we jump into TPU TPU generally is the focus as part of our dual intelligent processors for design to be able to give you all the flexibility for kind of tweaking and tuning performance aspects of your system and this is just like the UEFI you can go in there and make full adjustments to the B CLK or to the multiplier or to with something that's called the cash ratio which we'll explain more about when we talk about overclocking you can even go ahead and not just do per core tuning but you can do full tuning and that means all the CPU ratios can be fixed to the same ratio as opposed to maybe having like two cores right at 47 and then two cores running at 46 with those actually last two cores being all coarse so you got a lot of granularity in terms of which you control of course down here of course we have all our voltages you can choose an adaptive voltage or manual voltage adaptive is a new form of voltage for most users if they've used competitors products if you've used Asus products in the past our digital plus power design has given you what's called a turbo voltage that not a lot of users have been knowledgeable about and it does have a difference in terms of how it executes itself and the advantage that it represents but we'll talk more about that in the overclocking video some cool ways though that we've made this more flexible for you to be able to just though it's not just a slider like we've had in the past where normally you would kind of just make an adjustment to here but one you see that we've made a great color coding mechanism so it allows you to know what's your kind of your safe ranges your moderate ranges as well as dangerous ranges in terms of the voltage that you're going to be utilizing in addition to that we also have fully direct Keon values that are supported so if you don't want to go ahead and use the slider you can just go ahead and key in the voltage that you would like to go ahead and utilize so that makes things just that much more easy where you can go ahead and use the slider or you can directly key in whatever is more money ladies your automatic whatever you want correct so we think that's a great value at it having not only the color to show you kind of the ranges that are going to be comfortable to work in but even just being able to flexibly and easily be able to define the voltages of course this platform supports enhance adjustment to the CPU strap like the VCL case so you can make tweaks and tunes to that you can then jump into the EP you section which gives you extensive options for customizing the power management of your system so if we head over into something like the auto mode you can see that you can go ahead and tune the system to go ahead and provide less voltage in the CPU that can help you to provide lower power consumption when your CPU is idling or at a more moderate state of usage versus a heavier load of usage you can go in there you can adjust all your time management options in terms of how your system responds with you away from it whether it's for your monitor or sleep as well as even modify your fan profiles for different times now if we go to let's say more extensive forms of power saving we can even fully configure Mac CPU power now this is really cool because in the previous generation you could pick fix target powers of like 45 watts or 35 wotz now here you actually can have full of range you could adjust whatever reduced power profile you want don t even something like 20 watts and will make all those adjustments for you so that the CPU only consumes that power profile table so if you're somebody that's looking for more optimization and being able to still keep better performance but are willing to reduce them to go ahead and take advantage of more power conservation right to go ahead and lower your electricity bill you know reduce thermals and overall provide superior ku6 because you're having less load on your system it's another great option that you can provide more flexibility with hey it's just another great thing to be able to have correct so if we head back over to you know the auto options you can see that we can range through Auto high performance max power saving in a wave mode and digi+ power is what a lot of people have been familiar with it we've had an AF suite in the past which is all these same robust UEFI options that we had available to you whether they're things like current capability adjustment of the phase array and how it responds whether it's undergoing to be extreme which it's going to run the phasor a fully 100% whether it's at idle or at load or optimize where you're gonna have the phase arrayed drop down and be more efficient and produce less thermal load on your vrm assembly and overall give you a more balanced level of efficiency on power so you can of course control that all real time and then fan expert - of course rounds it out with giving you the best fan controls you can get in the industry fully adjustable for three pin fans for four pin fans you can adjust real time profiles you can go to each one of these settings you can fully adjust gradients to go ahead and ramp when you want it to ramp you can fix fixed modes of rpm so if you want to maybe just have your front intake fans always set to like 1000 or 1200 rpm so they're always bringing in air flow you can go ahead and do that you can even rename each one of the headers as well as control the ramping for how it goes between let's say something as little as like a thousand rpm all the way up to 3000 rpm because let me just type here day you're saying that you can like name the front fence you can call it front fan one front fan - correct so that every fan inside your system you'll know and be able to see right inside of the women's environment correct and the great thing about that is that it you can also personalize it so that you have an understanding because sometimes when you're gonna go into let's say all the fan controls right if let's say I go to chassis fan for chassis fan for doesn't necessarily mean chassis fan for right maybe it's my side panel fan or maybe that's actual I haven't connected a fan maybe I'm connecting my water cooling pump to that fan you could name it size right you could just name that you know you could name that water cooling pump or you could name that side fan you could name that top intake fan so then when you go into our PC probe information and you're looking at that you're seeing something that's a more easily understood than versus something generic like chassis fan I see that Asus is really pushing in the direction of naming conventions for everything making it simple for the user to name whatever they want whatever they want for their own memory correct yeah we just want to be able to provide the most flexibility at how you work with your system and allow it to be more comfortable and accessible for how you want to work with it and rounding it out of course there's an advanced menu option that you would go ahead and click into that would give you all those other functions that we've seen in the past such as USB 3 boost Network I control USB bottles flashback USB charger plus and all that good stuff so I really love the USB boost I have some my external drives I got from Kingston when I plug that bad boy and I engage with that I get much faster transfer speeds 100% way it's a great way being able to maximize performance for storage devices so moving on from there one of the biggest things that a lot of users kind of always are looking to looking for is how do I find an easy way to get the most out of the systems that I purchased now a lot of us were definitely dyed-in-the-wool enthusiasts but the reality is not a lot of you guys have been like me I've had the opportunity for the last eight months to work with this platform tweak it tune it I've gone through tons of motherboards I've gone through almost 100 CPUs I have a lot of insight on how to be able to maximize in Tunis but Dave you're trying to make us jealous this town that mama Donna green with envy but you know the reality is when you get this on day one you know that's a you've gone ahead and pick this up from your local retailer you've gone ahead and ordered from online you get everything unboxed and you go through it even when you're watching videos you're not going to be fully up to speed with everything and you know there's always that trepidation of people wanting to trust an automated utility but I think we've showed in the past how impressive and and functional our programs can be and for this generation we've tried to really add a great degree of value to say look take advantage of it try it out see the performance benefit that we can offer that's also going to be system specific to you that's really what makes four-way optimization special is that now not only are we going to provide you level of performance we're gonna do it in a safe and effective way but we're also gonna have it be specific to your configuration whether that means you're running a more moderate air cooler maybe you're writing a high-performance tower cooling solution or something extraordinary like what we have here with this awesome high performance coolant water cooling system let me ask you a question that's like in the same vein since you said that you've like seen like Cummings of processes and I understand from what you've seen so far what would you save for the 4770k is like an average overclock though you think that mostly anybody can get without a problem at all yeah you know hit that I all did that that's actually a really interesting question it's part of reason why we're gonna do a dedicated overclocking video because there's actually quite a bit of variance for this generation so some CPUs are definitely going to be capable of hitting much higher frequencies like what we have here in this system it can comfortably be able to get to you know 46 47 48 X multipliers but there's actually going to be quite a number of CPUs that we expect in terms of retail ability you'd be much more conservative but it's not just a question of frequency it's also a question of voltages voltages vary between the CPU frequencies that are needed as an example you could have a CPU that does 4.6 as little as one point one five volts and you could have a four point six CPU that requires one point four volts that's a huge Delta to be able to try to automatically know and work with some predefined value to be an r2 total as well correct and that comes into consideration that's what we feel that for optimization can provide a great deal of flexibility for you where the system can automatically tune you to maybe you know eighty-five percent of the way and are probably a safer way that you would normally pursue it because we're not going to use aggressive manual vid's which also don't drop down when your CPU is idling out right because we all because I mean not everybody in the worlds of Fugger or Shannon and Rob or one of those other super overclocker guys most people they want to be able to get stuff and they want to really be able to just simply you know get it most people just use you know good water cores you don't really see the generic user going out and buying himself a liquid nitrogen set up for is how quartz of course so with that let's go ahead and actually show you the way forward optimization works let's do it so we're gonna go ahead and click in now our system we could go ahead and define it we could pick out each one of the fans where it's positioned and as I noted you could go ahead and rename it if you want it to let's let's let's go ahead and let's duel do that just so the user grace can see let's go ahead and rename the front fan front fan one so let's let me go ahead and just pick maybe chassis fan one as an example so we can go ahead and chassis fan one right and when we go ahead and have chassis fan one we know this is actually this fan right here at the back so this is actually an exhaust fan right so we're exhaust so we could go ahead and call that rear exhaust I really hate when I have that stuff yeah so and this actually could also serve these could deserve to know not only what the name is but also its position so when we go ahead and click on this we can actually start and we can ramp that fan so as you see that fan has now kicked on and we'd be able to go oh I know where that position is and when we do that we can then assign where it's located so if you notice we can now click that that's now the back fan so this allows you to have much more flexibility at knowing exactly where your fan is in relation to your system and what its function is whether it's an intake fan whether it's an exhaust fan whether it's cooling your hard drives whatever you want to call it a great deal of flexibility so that's something that of course you can define here initially as part of the four-way optimization process now as part of that we can also go in and select other portions now for most of this you guys have seen fan expert too in the past so we're not going to run through that full optimization process that we can explain if an expert tuned for your in views out the revenues before it means you can any of the fans that are on the system can be controlled through the BIOS or through this you can go in and change them all and do it very simply yes but it's even more extensive than that right because it's actually going to go to each fan header and automatically calibrate it from its minimum operation to its maximum operation and then link that together with simple profiles so once we actually go ahead and let's say if we had four or five fans attached and we completed Vanek's / - we could click the silent button and all the fans would actually turn off they would actually be silent it wouldn't just be an approximation because it knows what the minimum operating level is or we could have set it to standard where it's a balance of being really quiet but still offering us consistent airflow and of course as we gain or as we go ahead and watch something on YouTube maybe the latest tech of tomorrow video or we switch over and maybe do something in productivity the system is going to cordially adjust in terms of that family but smaller videos are known to for heat systems I mean it's some pretty intense demanding yeah it is demanding I mean information overload right exactly so here in the TPU section we've also made an enhancement to our auto clock auto auto overclocking application and you can see right here we have the ability now to allow it to either auto overclock exclusively through the ratio or the multiplier or through the B CLK so this is also another great option if you get your CPU you can get a baseline and kind of get a sense of what your CPP is capable as well as what it's capable of on the BC LK side of the fence so with that let's go actually go ahead and auto tune our system alright so we're gonna go ahead and click start now as you saw we loaded full UEFI defaults so that means right now that our system is running at a full stock level of performance so we're not running any type of overclock and our memory is also go ahead and running at stock so we can see right there a 1333 3.5 gigahertz that's all going to change though right correct so we're now going to go ahead and execute our four way optimization which I said is a great way to be able to simply not only overclock your system and maximize its power efficiency through the epu adjustments do complete fan calibration and make all your adjustments in terms of power optimization now I'm also going to make another note that for the EP optimizations these are pretty cool it's not just being able to bring down the total power consumption we can even do advanced things like be able to go and turn off the add-on controllers such as like let's say your cereal a tiara controller things you're not using like you'd have to say when the BIOS you actually shut the power down to that correct so when your system is not actually writing maybe to your external USB 3 hard drive that you attach to that port or maybe a secondary hard drive that's connected to the AES media SATA controller when those are not being utilized at your desktop environment when it's idle we can turn down the power to those devices and only have them power back on when you actually go to initialize let me ask you a question because that could actually come in handy also in the overclocking environment so within the overclocking environment can you shut those things down so that you can save the power for your overclock or does that only work within the EP you I think it's a pretty yeah no I mean definitely those options are always available in terms of being able to make those adjustments but in terms of form optimization will automatically make those adjustments for you in terms of be able to look at those controllers see if there's anything attached and if they are be able to essentially send a command that when nothing is going on with them that it can turn them off for you so right now the systems calibrating itself correct so it's gone ahead and executed a quick basic a moderate moderate overclock at four point three gigahertz so now the next step is once this countdown timer completes its going to continue to pursue a higher level of overclocking so this is going to automatically stress test they're not gonna self-destruct in 25 24 no no this is just the countdown timer and the reason actually why we have the countdown timer is because to degree we don't necessarily know what people might have automatically starting up with their system so we're essentially giving them a little bit of time to now allow these things to come up as well as a little bit time to figure out hey I'm already happy with 4.3 gigahertz right you sure about that because the Camerons my way if I want to make a b-roll for the door so no 100% we're gonna be alright I'm risking my life here for you guys oh no risk asus is 100% taking care of you here man so what we can see right here is now that the system is actually running a full course stress test and we can hear our system ramping up and we can actually see the seep utilization went up to 100% because it's dynamically actually clocking up our system and stress testing at the same time it's effectively the same thing you would normally do yourself right go ahead enter in an overclock modify the voltage stress test it crash reboot and start over again this is very much the same thing than a normal individual routine but already taking our expertise and our design philosophy of being able to do it in a safe and accurate and consistent way that's also specific to your system well yeah with all the overclockers if you guys have worked with I would imagine that all the numbers for everything gonna kind of have like a balance somewhere it's if you put all those numbers in there the computer could probably predict pretty closely you know within a parameter I'm doing some decent overclocking well the great thing is that there's no prediction here this is real-time occurring on your system it's making these adjustments so we went from a 4.3 to now four point four gigahertz it's now tree stress testing it and we're gonna keep modifying it now the really cool thing is that we've also integrated per or tuning for this generation so we're gonna have some times to be able to go more aggressively on 1 & 2 course verses 3 & 4 course so once this actual process completes its going to let us know what our finalized overclock is so at this point we're just going to go ahead and the let it continue through its Auto overclocking process and we're gonna see what we end up with in terms of our final result so we're now going to go ahead and enter back into the desktop and you can even notice that we've actually modified the restart shutdown experience that when your system did crash we've actually made it even shorter normally you have a more lengthy shutdown experience where it tells you hey your system is shut down incorrectly and we've gone ahead and make even adjustments for that so you can see we've completed and we've given you a 4.7 gigahertz overclock on two cores and then across four cores 4.6 that's pretty badass though considering that it's all you know done automatic this system no headache and I could go in restart at having your system at all oh man I gotta go reset the BIOS again none of that tricky stuff that you have to do so I have to say that's really a win-win thing for somebody who's really new and just wants to be able to get the best well yeah even from an enthusiast perspective you'd be hard-pressed to actually beat this you know what I mean for someone that even knows how to tweak them tune their system you're really only going to talk maybe another number or something very regular maybe about another 100 maybe 200 megahertz so you're really talking about and you're probably not going to do it anywhere near as elegantly right if we look right now we can see that when our system is dropping down we're using the adaptive bit policy so you see the CPU is dropping all the way down to 0.9 70 volts it's very efficient as opposed to a normal user might be forcing 1.3 volts always consistently you don't get that nice power efficiency and you can also see we've Auto executed the initialization for the overclock on the memory as well so we're running that Kingston HyperX memory at 21 33 so we've kicked up your CPU frequency we've kicked up your DRAM frequency and you've now got a great overclock integrated and if we even decide that we want to go ahead and actually stress test it to get an idea in terms of its performance capability we can go with something really intensive pov is a actual full real-time rendering application it's very stressful and we can go ahead and go here and we could take a look let's say at our CPU utilization if we go ahead something like this and we could go ahead and run it across all CPUs and when we go ahead and do that you're gonna see that it's gonna hit that CPU hard you can see now it's at 100% and we're at 4.6 gigahertz and we've auto-tuned it now we're locked in at one point two four five bolts so you can see very very reliable solid experience I mean when you're using your system even when you're gaming you're probably only going to be executing somewhere between about 40 to maybe 60% CPU load load utilization so this is even already out of the norm in terms of what you would do yeah this is pretty impressive I have to say I mean okay well I'm click and when you go to 4.7 so it was pretty awesome the last thing that we want to show here though is that there are going to be some users that obsess about stability testing the one thing you have to keep in mind with stability testing on this platform is that Intel has made some changes to the IBR the IVR is that power regulation technology inside the CPU if you're somebody that has to validate using something like prime95 OC CT even a disability test you have to be very cautionary because it will force a higher level of voltage to be supplied that us we cannot control this process and if you don't have enough thermal Headroom in your thermal solution to burn it it would necessarily maybe cause a burn to the processor but what you could have is essentially too much heat to be able to thermally dissipate and the CPU frequency would essentially immediately throttle out so you want to be conscientious of the reality that you can't always do these type of tests so I'm just going to show a quick example of this so if we head over to this ability test and we head over to the CPU and let's say we go ahead and run this you're going to see that it immediately shot up to 1.337 volts that's much higher than the 1.45 bolts that we were using if we run any other application that's going to put a lot of stress in the core correct and you can see even with our high performance water cooling solution we're getting to a point in terms of the Maxim temperatures that are being reported that we could be getting close to a thermal throttle standpoint so you realistically want to be very cautionary about using a stress test utility if you really think you want to use a stress test utility our recommendation is probably check out the manual overclocking video and you're gonna want to use a manual vid while it's not going to be efficient it will allow you to go ahead and at least fix in a voltage where you won't have this secondary voltage ramp if you have to consider all right excellent stuff with that that gives you some insight and I think a really impressive demonstration in terms of what for.we optimization technology can provide you as a benefit alright folks so that pretty much wraps it up JJ thank you very much for once again being a guest on our channel you guys can all see that the new AI suite 3d is awesome technology one click of a button guys 4.7 overclocked it was easy simple anybody can do it so with that said we've got more videos coming up from Asus and we'll see you guys back here on the channel JJ thanks thank you
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