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hey tech fans what's going on welcome back once again to another edition of tech of tomorrow you guys can see that I have mr. Asus JJ here with me and what is he doing here well you guys unless you've been like on another planet all know that heads will is getting ready to be released and today we're going to tell you the differences between the z87 and z77 platforms so I'm gonna hand the microphone over JJ and he's gonna rock and roll all this information for you folks oh what's going on man what's up that's good to see it's been a little bit since I last yeah I thought you like disappeared on us or something nah man definitely not so like you said you know it's a really exciting time you know within the component industry we've got a brand new chipset brand new CPU coming along with that chipset I know that we always got a lot of questions when chipset CP launches is that how is this different from the last generation right what differentiates it yeah you know what what kind of improvements are we gonna see what kind of changes are going to see you know should I buy this other chipset that might be on the market you know and things like that so like you noted we already might now have on the market z77 and we also have x79 for the ultra high-end space right so z87 is just a replacement for the z77 chipset we're gonna have two SKUs pretty much just like the previous generation where we're gonna have a 4770k and a 4670 case so k denotes it's an overclocking part so that means it's an enthusiast oriented part and that pretty much replaces your previous 3770k and actually we're gonna see a lot of differences actually and overclocking with this as well correct we'll get into some other videos but there are some big differences in overclocking a few people out there who like to overclock right yeah I mean I think there's gonna be factors to evaluate I think total frequency is actually pretty similar but there are going to definitely be considerations as far as how you work with the platform that are gonna be different than a previous generation so you know for a lot of the basic things when we take a look at the the motherboard side there's not gonna be a lot of things that jump out either that are going to be different you know if we take a look at let's say connectivity first up most people you know remember that there was six ports that were natively provided by z77 and then if a motherboard vendor decided to put any more on like this board where we have 10 ports that was done through additional controllers no change here z87 is still going to be six ports but Intel's done something great and they've updated all the PCH ports to be sad a 60 capable so that means inherently compared to the generation when you only had two they're now getting six now will your board still incorporate the as media chipset as well to include additional ports yes so of course you know we always have enthusiasts we have people that love storage you want to be able to do more so we're going to be able to continue to support having boards that have as much as 10 ports on them so you have more than enough connectivity for everything you need to do and you like storage in your motherboard does it make you order I suppose in some way for people out there they love to store their photos their pictures the games or whatever it might be so for us if you just got to make it happen for them in terms of USB 3 connectivity there's been a little bit of a change as well previous generation you had four ports of course you know for our more feature-rich boards we had even more ports than that through adding through secondary controllers or things along those lines this generation Intel officially gives you six ports that are based on the chipset so you're getting an improvement boasting SATA and in USB now does that mean you that you'll have a choice between running dual and triple channel memory does it translate like that or just the availability of ports just just in terms of ports but that's a great point if we go over to the memory side of things we're still talking about a dual channel platform as opposed to let's say quad channel which is going to be on next 79 so x 79 is still going to give you significantly more flexibility at putting in more memory and having a higher total bandwidth and let's just make clear the audience this is not geared to replace X 79 at all correct correct I mean in terms you know if we just lay that out right now at the end of the day X 79 is gonna have more piece a lanes it's going to have more memory bandwidth more memory density the CPUs themselves are gonna have more cash and more cores so if you're still looking for kind of the outright highest end platform with most connectivity and most expansion it's generally gonna be the X mu9 platform z87 and Haswell are the fourth generation core series processors are still going to be awesome and they're gonna serve probably most of you guys great in terms of what you're looking to do but you know x79 still definitely has its place in the market and it's not going anywhere right so you're still dealing with the dual channel enabled board the official memory support has gone to be higher than what it was previously a lot of our boards in the previous generation will qualified up to 2800 for this generation we have qualification up to 29 33 now is that going to be through an XMP setting you know like always there's official memory support that's sanctioned by the CPU which is up to 1600 and anything greater than that will ten potentially be varied by the cpu quality so most of the cpu is actually we found over 75 percent can hold up to 2800 memory speeds even in four dimm configurations but there are going to be other considerations to keep in mind and we'll talk about the network locking but you know definitely memory is going to continue to be you know pretty straightforward no changes here ddr3 just like it was before you're gonna be able to take your previous generation kits if you want them and roll them over to here so pretty much everything that you have right now if you had a Sandy border Ivy Bridge setup you could take everything but your CPU and transfer onto your board that's a great point to make though is that physically the socket is going to be pretty much the same in terms of the dimensions and requirement for any guys that are using current generation CPU heatsink like water coolers all that type of stuff everything does another yeah you could you could have a closed-loop water cooling solution you could have a full water block or you could just have a regular you know a fan fan and heatsink combination and it will work so you don't have to worry about that there's any change or requirement for you to go out and buy a new heatsink your old heatsink will work entirely okay you know there'll be some differences in terms of thermals but you know we'll talk that's actually pretty good for an upgrade path a lot of times you know upgrade paths you got to go out and buy all-new everything with this you just have to buy your board your CPU all the rest of your parts will transfer over and continue to work it will save you money as an upgrade path agreed the last point will probably be that the CPU itself is a little bit different in terms of the previous generation intel has gone ahead and actually integrated what's called the IVR so the IVR is pretty much the power regulation or the power management technology that used to sit externally outside the motherboard and it's now been fully integrated inside the CPU now looks another for signal Jake since you're saying that how does that actually affect the CPU since all technology being taken from the board and the CPU is not going to cause some additional heat inside the CPU as well there are some changes in terms of how the CPU responds and you know I think for the most part that's stock performance it's not going to be really a big change there is a little bit difference in the TDP the previous generation was 77 watts this generation is 84 watts but it's pretty close I think we're more consideration comes in a place how you work in terms of overclocking in the platform and you know we'll talk about in the overclocking video but you know us as a motherboard vendor that still doesn't change the requirements to have good quality power design and power implementation so all the things like you know your your cut your inductors or your chokes you know your capacitors your MOSFETs your drivers that's still the power delivery components those don't go anyway they'll still have to be on the motherboard it's just the controller chip so for years if you guys watch the videos that we've done we've always talked about Asus leading with digital power design they've pretty much taken that digital power design and incorporate it inside the CPU so guys with all those features that you guys have had on your boards before all that stuff is now actually incorporated inside a lot of it you know there's a little bit of an Intel twist on some of it but a large degree of the amount of flexibility in tuning that we've offered because of a digital design is now inherently consistent on any one of the boards that will support this can I ask you a question oh Jenny how does that actually translate though to the end-user like so a guy out there who doesn't know much about computers is all like how does that translate over to them by moving all that technology onto the GPU and not being on the board I mean how does it actually work for the news well the end user notice anything at all really different or that's just a technology change I think it's gonna be pretty transparent especially if you've been using our boards it's not gonna feel inherently different because you're gonna see so much of the same type of options all in the house yeah you know I mean hopefully you guys are gonna be taking a look at our product but you know if you're looking at competitors you know it's probably more I believe just a lot of the competitors to be honest because they're gonna get a better quality experience in terms of the consistency on power regulation power management options as opposed to maybe the older designs that they were using in the past alright so if anything there's more consistency there but in terms of the board design as a whole for this platform there are still things that us as a motherboard vendor have to do and we'll talk about that when we cover more of our board design did you guys kidnap Mitas yeah we'll talk about that when we get the board design cuz definitely we've got an entire you guys don't see all the blue is gone and the gold is in so I'm thinking that these guys kidnapped Midas and had them put the Midas touch on all the reports but for the most part I think that gives you a pretty good update you know otherwise pretty straightforward in terms that the chipset is an improvement in every single way to the previous generation platform there's nothing that got reduced down in terms of functionality they only maybe other thing that sometimes you guys might be wondering about is the graphics performance for the most part the most advanced form of the graphics architecture that the fourth-generation core series processors bring to the table is only going to be specific to the mobile space or you know tablets or small form-factor type solutions for this generation you're going to have an improvement but it's gonna be pretty close to what Ivybridge graphics performance was although we get the village who now drive three digital displays plus higher resolution support for even upcoming 4k technology so I think that wraps up most of what we have that's new to z87 and the new Haswell or fourth-generation series processors yeah so stay tuned folks because we're actually gonna have lots of more videos with JJ as we actually go over individually a lot of these products talk about some of the overclocking and actually some really cool systems so I know Eric thanked JJ from azuz for coming to being our guest today and we've got lots more stuff coming for you guys here on tech of tomorrow