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and welcome to the fourth episode of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm lime your three hubs for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of TechnoBuffalo I'm joined by executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton everyone and executive editor of gaming joey davidson hello first off yes everyone were very sorry that there was no show yesterday Microsoft yeah they didn't check with our schedule and they decide to have a press conference at the same time the show happens you know and we called them and they said first who are you and second how did you get this number yeah we already have the room booked so yeah they just they they went back down they think we're bigger than you we're bigger than you yeah so sorry folks so yes here's the show today Wednesday's are still our normal day but Microsoft and Amazon had other opinions apparently and my color is all messed up so good oh thank you alrighty that so on this week's show we're going to be discussing the Amazon fire TV and Windows 8 Phone 8.1 update I don't know why I always want to say windows 8.1 phone updater Wow I don't know why I just it doesn't roll off my tongue easily that's weird it is weird so Todd let's start with you windows phone 8.1 is finally here we saw you wanted um yeah it's what we wanted there's a lot of great features i think the notifications coming through it looks pretty robust that'll look really great and then also cortana the voice assistant but and i'm going to try to write an opinion on this later today we're going through our comments and it's very true that this is a game of catch up in a lot of ways right like Microsoft didn't have even like the most basic notification shade before and now they do and it didn't have a voice assist and now they do although court and looks pretty cool you can actually customize it like add in let's say you like sports teams and specific news topics that she'll learn from that so it could be better than what we've seen before from google now and stuff i'm excited i signed up for the developer preview which i think is rolling out before the end up next week so we'll be playing around with it well the weather Lumia 920 line beginning it yep yes yeah it goes all the way back to I think olive they said all those reasons name is yeah all right want to apply it but I don't know if it's enough to get me to switch back yeah well they said it's gonna roll out in the next couple of months through carrier testing and all that but if you sign up for a developer and I think it's like 19 bucks to be a windows phone developer and download this preview app you can get it by the way so to be as stable as everybody was I mean that was on windows phone for over a year before I just couldn't take it anymore and my issues came to fold they didn't they didn't support the software with enough frequent updates now that that's finally here it's nearly it's nearly what two knit two years two and a half years well yeah and I don't know how frequent it's gonna be moving forward either I mean this is sort of ketchup and here they are now what you know so right well and I mean as compelling as some of the new features are you know for me the the fact that there's three columns of icons instead of two isn't really the slam dunk but he did like that wasn't that wasn't like the game changer for me as someone who is in that that marketplace for so long the application support was horrendous mm-hmm and then it still is sort of i mean you get the good stuff like Instagram and all that in there but the story is still loaded just well I think that's where my my perspective differs with with jon rettinger Zack chua Lee cuz he basically told me and a lot of our users that like the basic apps that you need to function are there um and I know that he believes that and that's fine but for me I couldn't that wasn't true a lot of people were using things you know by the time windows phone got vine vine wasn't really cool anymore okay guys right and like we're still waiting on snapchat I mean that's a party one but I mean there are some third party ones and sometimes the third party ones are amazing almost better than the first party applications but by and large it's it's just a mixed bag of weird minecraft knockoffs and like yes waiting for first party developers to come to and I don't understand what the problem is like it's you're leaving money on the table when you don't develop for the platform but yeah I guess its development costs but you look at like you know there's no official pebble app I don't think the Fitbit one is on there I don't you know all these wearables now on the market aren't necessarily on windows phone either so there's a lot that's were left out and they actually prob was kind of weird they didn't announce like a bunch of new apps yesterday I don't know what they could have announced with it you know there's popular the app store is a mess on the windows phone marketplace it's a mess and I redid it but beautiful OS amazing hardware but man now I asked Todd since he signed up for developers credentials what he'd be developing and he actually didn't say shun without hesitation told me that we will soon be enjoying toddy bird toddy now yesterday they have so Microsoft has this really basic web developer platform where you can like make it you're going custom app for whatever and just put RSS these I made one yesterday called like Tata Tata yeah can I get this right now I can just go there and no i didn't publish it or anything I just probably better than ninety five percent of the applications mark emplaced anyway Toby supports it with microtransactions yeah all that in there every 4 99 cents you get a daily photo of todd when he wakes up in the corner oh yeah you're out a way to do that it's just a daily picture of him with bed air woke up like this hey and here's the picture for neutral third ya know I am really excited I can't wait to try it yeah it looks cool and as cheesy as it sounds like the dynamic background sing like where you can see the wallpaper through the icons yeah well that's pretty dope so and deemed lock screen and stuff like that right yeah yeah well it was time it came long you know will it change Windows Phones fate we'll have to wait and see marker chairs increasing so yeah it is increasing but it's I've seen glaciers that have moved faster glacial increase is better than you know Titanic collapse so I don't think yeah so known as pulling a blackberry haha say no yes yes I went there thank you well the the other major announcement yesterday from the microsoft event was of course that hey look we brought back the start button in Windows is so funny and and they're adding all this new support for keyboard and mouse users all of us who have been here since you know forever like why wasn't that the priority the first time and then worked on the touchscreen stuff I think that they trot they tried to jump onto the touchscreen mayhem I mean they wanted a operating system that made their their tablet devices as dynamic and useful as possible and they did it's just that their tablet devices didn't catch like wildfire so yeah oh and then if the stars pro took off and sold like absolutely gangbusters we probably have a very different opinion as of Windows 8 but yeah and we might see you know a lot a lot of new tablets under nine inch range because they drop down the licensing yes really to use it now which a commenter yesterday had said why didn't you I mean obviously it's not top five future so I didn't mention it in my article but I also while it's compelling news it doesn't mean that every partner who's already building Android devices going to do a total 180 and start just going nuts with Windows I mean there also has to be demand for these products right so while there's do you know save money on it I think right climbing a tell if that's big I will say the geek of me is slightly joyful at the fact that they decide to name their digital assistant Cortana yes yeah it is cute you know and it does no harm for those people that don't know what it means but ill for those of those that played halo it's pretty funny but as for the new phones that were announced Todd was there any in the three new Lumias that were announced that stood out to you um the 630 and 635 are going to be on you know the low end the 630 is just 3g 35 has his 4G LTE support and then the 930 is cool but we've already had it in the US it's basically the icon with the European radio set to the icon sort of falls back on to verizon's 3g network which is still evdo so the 930 is kind of one little hspa+ but i think it's compelling it's going to come in different colors and stuff like that and launched with Windows Phone 8.1 so still a great device so since we're discussing operating systems and all that regular contributor Sasha Mahal asks what is each of your daily driver the wing that you use personally not just a review unit every day you wanna go right now i'm still using the iphone 5s but i had 15 20 and the HTC One m8 right here too so I have two phone lines I stick with the iphone mostly because I Tritt up I use iMessage with my friends all the time so it's just kind of convenience but I always have a second sim in another device Joey yours i'm using the HTC one mini um a good phone but I picked it up because you guys gave it to me after I stopped complaining about the Windows Phone so yes we should only take this yeah here are thrown a fall throw my father no i get i get the unwanted scraps the stuff that you're all done with but we don't need that anymore send it to Joey oh and i'm using a iphone 5s and an LG g2 like todd i have two phone lines and this way I can keep up with the two major OS is at the drop of a hat which comes in very handy in our line of work so it's my very reason I I don't switch very often like my 5s is on sprint since it's not some card base I just I stick with the 5s and as for the for the g2 that one that you know I switch out from time to time depending on although I really do like the g2 I think it's a really nice phone i love the battery life on it yeah maybe so the other big thing yesterday was amazon announcing the fire TV which it's very easy at first glance to go oh it's just another streaming box like the roku or the Apple TV or the chromecast but after a lot of thought it's feeling a little bit different Joey why don't you dive into what you and I were discussing this morning yeah the will this morning we kind of started our chat by just saying like I think that we miscalculated what Amazon exactly was going to show off yesterday I think we were kind of expecting a Roku mixed with the oh yeah which-which sort of is what we got but what I think it's interesting about the Amazon fire TV and what I think is the most compelling piece of this puzzle for gaming is the Amazon game studios I wrote forever ago and this is what i was talking Li Shan about why i think that android and iOS will never compete with the likes of Nintendo and Sony Microsoft for gaming because they don't have a first-party studio so there's no standardization there for their game creation there's no there's no one that's kind of setting the bar and saying your games must be this good so those marketplaces have kind of become racist to the bottom you know whoever can make the crappiest cheapest app that happens to also be a fad wins and that that that's proven true time and time again look at the success of stuff like Angry Birds I'm flappy bird stuff like that I mean they're they're all not very compelling or interesting titles but they do very very well as it's cheap or free Amazon Game Studios is doing kind of the opposite they are actually recruiting top to your talent they got Kim Swift the designer of portal and they got the guy from far cry 2 and I think he did a couple Splinter Cell Games and a bunch of games in valve before that so they're going after top to your talent and I think that the fire TV will have that first party standardization alongside it do I think it's going to stand toe-to-toe with the xbox one playstation 4 or even the wii u not necessarily but i do think that it's going to be a compelling little machine and one that that we're kind of debating whether or not we want to cover and review style that's what our conversation was this morning Sean you know should we be reviewing these games well and now this just crossed my mind as we're talking you know yes I I don't think the fire TV can compete with the three major consoles but do you think Joey that there's ancient is that this may be a let's dip our toe in the water for something down the road no not necessarily I think that Amazon's core services are media streaming you know that they're they're trying to rent movies and and sell Prime memberships with this thing I think the games are just going to kind of be a tertiary feature for the platform unless it takes off I mean if it takes often yes Amazon will probably want to bulk up and try to do some new things but they kind of showed what they're willing to do with announcing the specs for the device and it's essentially an android phone it is interesting to note however that the game controllers sold out right now is it really what sold out I think that was a case of demand not meeting supplies a boy yeah so that's it's interesting it's interesting that that that it's sold out so quickly I think it's very telling yeah it's a very tiny sliver of evidence but it's intriguing nonetheless you also have to figure probably early adopters and you know like ourselves and everything or probably well I want to see what this console can do across the board and not just right yeah because like the irvine office ordered both i ordered both you know I just but that we are definitely not the typical use case because we are who we are and that we have to review everything right now as for the streaming capabilities of it mine's not here yet i'm i'm waiting on the brown truck to pull up and at the end of the day yes it's another row who essentially you know if you've got a roku already or if you have a lot of apps built into your smart television it's not necessarily something you're going to need so that's where I'm going to be intrigued you know what sets this apart from the other ones but we'll see you guys have a roku an apple TV smart TV chromecast you can pump gas more than anything I really like it especially with apps like all cast where you can stream whatever you want sort of up there I mean not apps per se but movies and stuff that I download elsewhere I have an hdmi cable from my pc i can show everything yeah exactly you know I find these devices as interesting and compelling as they are there a convenience feature that I don't need right you know when they show it i'm just like cool but i already have like nine other things that play games and stream media to my television so right why do i need this thing someone gave me a chromecast a buddy of mine just handed me his chromecast is like hey I don't need this i'm like why don't you need it and he was like well I have my pc hooked up to my TV and rifles so I am like so on my desk Apple TV because I airplay my screen so i have a double screen from my macbook and then my TV as the consoles and then in my room i have the chromecast like for when I'm in bed stuff we have a TV man why do you need more than one TV I don't know and I have a very tiny apartment too yeah how many see you have your TV's outnumber the residents mmhmm yeah this is ridiculous the TVs in my house also outnumber their residents and unless you count my dogs hey and so that I can play games and my wife can watch TV those and you have an extra TV yeah oh my god like a 19 years TV ah oh well you know what are you gonna do with this joy word we're tech beans you know it's yes who we are uh another question from Sasha Mahal do you think apple will try to convince the name is on fire TV by adding gaming another app support to apple TV I think they're going to add app support I'm not so sure about gaming Apple as always tend march to the beat of its own drummer so but we all saw it already has games with airplay yeah all of them obviously but it's up to developers at that point yeah I don't know it's gonna be interesting to see I there's definitely something going on with the Apple TV where you know we're not a hundred percent sure what yet but I don't know I I don't think they're going to go full-on gaming I I just don't see that happening what do you think Joey I mean I think from a from a gaming writer perspective I think that Apple has sort of missed the boat here this ship has started to sail on whatever they want to do with gaming unless they show up and say hey check it out we got game studios now but that's not happening what can they do other than create an iOS / app store for below your TV and how compelling is that for me it's not really that compelling at all yeah so I I don't think that's where Apple wants to go I I just don't think that they want to jump in and they would never set up a first-party gaming studio I I don't feel they would at least yeah yeah so it would just hungry hey I think there's going to be a point where iOS apps probably do make it to the apple television and that will bring a lot more gaming but I don't think it will ever be and we've added gaming right and that's weak I think you're writing that will be a software strategy games kind of go along with it exactly exactly we have a question from Nathan gold guler sanai aight guys i am sorry if I mispronounced names i'm not the best names what do you guys want to see in a new chromecast I would say a lot more apps I mean I know the SDKs been out since februari and each more go isn't on it yet yeah it kinda sorta know it's on there pretty I use it all time okay then yeah I honestly I fall back I just unplugged my chromecast for my television their day I was like I need to ask you my part yeah I would say we don't need you hardware we just need more stuff to do with it yeah exactly you know and for instance ago when I want to get my computer on my television I just airplay my macbook pro to my apple TV so the chromecast was kind of redundant for me yeah but for thirty-five dollars you know it wasn't horrible investment to give it a try as for hardware though I really don't think there's much they need to do to it you know maybe make it smaller because my hdmi ports are horizontal so it was sticking way out of the back which makes it difficult to put it against flat surfaces mine spent already it wasn't very sturdy like I noticed it's already that's up cuz i push against the wall exactly so yeah I think they need to reduce its physical size if at all possible so that you have more you know choices into where you're going to place the television but we'll see if that happens going down the list here let's see Thank You Nathan I I see your pronunciation goo goo oh man I mean I in Seoul look at Google Syrian thank you thank you joey ok Google serene got it Nathan thank you for proposing that okay uh next question here let's see uh this is a bit off topic but I'm sure this is something across 'as a lot of people's minds from mr. OSCE what do you want on the next iPhone Todd this is stored in your screen for me it's really about battery life I needed more battery life out of the iphone it's kind of a pain in the bot that that thing's dead by like dinnertime almost every day yeah specially well since i I've got bluetooth on all the time now to likewise yeah de feed to my pebble and it just it kills the battery and I know that's my fault for having bluetooth on all the time but yeah I anymore I have to throw it on a charge around 4-430 since i get up at six thirty I couldn't even tell you what the iPhone features right now I have it is that one since the force idea for a bigger screen but I have to be honest like um HTC one to five inches with this with that one m8 and you know I got be that guy like you can't reach the far course with one hand and I really do like that about the iphone so if they go with the bigger screen I would like to see them sort of go without the bezels or make it still in a small form factor so it's very one hand friendly then i'm i'm not complaining i love the note 3 i love the 1520 I love big screens I just you know there's a time and place to use them and am I the only one that's secretly not secretly but that just doesn't like the big screen hardware a lot of people don't like it but i think you know because i use two phones it's not that big a deal i'll just use my other phone at times when big screen doesn't make sense but I look I mean for me and when it comes to a phone over screen sizes is performance you know right and which is why I think Sony did something really interesting with the Xperia Z compact or z1 compact that it's still a powerhouse but in a smaller body and I'd like to see a lot of people still do that but cut it how does stuff ahead of the phablet's and stuff like that sell in Japan do you guys have any idea not sure about Japan but I know when I've met with manufacturers they they create a bigger phones for Asian markets in general really more popular yeah HTC one max is a good example of that that was created because it's very popular in Taiwan it was sold here on sprint but it I don't think it did very well Taiwan Korea and China are phablet nuts but japan i assume is not I i have not anything specific on Japan but I Joey knowing Japan like you do I I wouldn't suspect that they're big on that side I mean I know the iPhone 5 is killing it there well I also I think what I wanted yeah we should ask her among women I think the experience are very popular there can Japan in Asia I don't know Asia specifically well uh Rhonda well who is one of our gaming writers lives in Japan so I could be interesting we'll ask him to just you know observe on the train does he see a lot of phablets yeah and you know i I just I have to say I like big screens and I cannot lie terrible it was saying there was low hanging fruit doesn't mean i had a picket man it did it did I had to reach out and grab it make the joke ah you know guys I Sasha bohol thank you because you're the entire QA q right now ah hey Joey have you tried goat simulator I have not not need to get the ten dollars on a joke ah Brandon said he's buying it today of course he is I've heard that hilarious I've heard that's more fun to watch them play I from the people i've talked to they basically just said watch view youtube videos and you'll be good a trailer killed me the the Dead Island knockoff trailer bebegim a cop tree that was amazing I I mean it's hilarious some of the secrets are hilarious apparently you can become a satanic code you can go to space all that stuff sounds amazing to me but I don't know I'm not really wanting to spend ten bucks for a punchline that might last me you know like an hour how does a satanic go differ from a normal good do they just listen to like a lot Danzig and yeah it's just the goat just likes metal yeah he walks around and kiss makeup hate that kind of metal Oh metal the hair metal not your mother's metal okay diamond makeup hey I used to be a headbanger I can I can name them all off for you but the white snake is not metal no white snake has not metal I fully agree with you having tawny kitaen crawl around on a car does not qualify not at all no and it sends me that I remember Tony contains name yeah that is sad that there's a little section of my brain that could have been used for something important but no I remember the name of the woman in the white snake videos yeah what are you gonna do all right let's see here here's a question from massage and ball also is TechnoBuffalo doing anything for the seventh anniversary at least for the YouTube channel I you know John and I discussed it briefly and I we haven't settled anything hard and fast yet so possibly I don't know yet you know at seven years is a good benchmark to go Wow we've been doing this a long time now but you just have John eating at eight oh no we'll do a cake unboxing yeah there you go with cake the cake is a lie right not see ya that one was for you Joey but no problem uh-uh here Nate nathan is back for you Joey he says goat simulator really isn't fun to play not worth the 10 bucks in my opinion there you go ten bucks joke not I don't think it's worth it man no it's not funny it's awesome that it was made but it was just I mean the guys at coffee stain studios were screwing around and someone said that they should sell it so they did you know released on april first let's be serious yeah alright so let's discuss April first for just half a second worst in use the worst day to be someone that works on the internet but I will say this year I think a lot of companies got it and they made it a lot more obvious what was jokes and what wasn't yeah that's true the problem is when sites try to get in on it like I think one year and it's actually funny I think two years ago I got tricked in like there's a nokia phone running android i think right and now like two years later is truth but yeah I think he was bought gamespot reviewed Shenmue III like here's here's a Franchot like fans have been begging for a third Shenmue II for like decades so they just posted up the review that was hilarious but no Joey I have to ask did you catch all 150 Pokemon on google maps no I was stupid it was just like for that I closed it yeah I was well okay I I caught all 150 now did you really terrible were you looking online where to find him when I got down to like the last 50 or so I was like okay I have no and some of them there was one that was out in the middle of an ocean yeah I'm talking about man yeah you had to enter the latitude/longitude to find it ridiculous there any sort of eyes at the end like and you got a graphic nice hey I I was like I was really hoping they were like going to mail out business cards yeah something yeah we're outside you download the Pokemon master business card yeah yeah yeah I caught all 150 all right I have no life I fully admit but i have to say that joke made me laugh pretty darn hard no it was good it was funny joke definitely but like once i got i knew it and started screwing around I'm just like okay okay well I I did like the fact that they even went so far as if you clicked on the Pokemon you got like their stats and stuff no going far would have been including the roar like like so that you could tap and hear their calls like that would have been going but instead it was just a picture of it and how many other Pokemon you caught like I need to know like history genetic disposition come on I i will tell you sadly there was no vanillish that's just the original 150 man I know but you know I kept hoping that maybe he was hiding an ice cream stand now yeah maybe he was at every baskin-robbins well me Kyle from Brazil likes good simulator yep so yes that does not saying it doesn't have its fans like it's obviously funny and if if you get a lot of humor out of that good for you like if ten bucks seems like a good valuable purchase to you go for it just for me I play a crapload of games and drop in 10 bucks on something that I'll Lowell at for 15 minutes really isn't worth it so I cannot tell you how excited I am ft l came out for iOS dude dude i play da a one-round this morning they included a hard difficulty I've got an 11 hour flight to turkey class buddy man you're gonna pilot so many FTL ships I'm going to play a lot after your complaining am I missing a lot yes it's 520 so it just released for ipad for 10 bucks yeah I saw so do you know what it is Todd no no I don't know anything of that so it's like a top down um ship command simulator and basically what you do is you move from one point of the galaxy to the other in single steps and every time you click on a new step inside a sector a different situation happens so it's a roguelike have you ever heard of roguelikes before nope no likes a random scenario like randomly generated extreme difficulty and permanent death so like once you die you're done the average run maybe takes 30 minutes so you could beat the game in 30 minutes you just have to be super lucky so I don't know how many hours have you dumped into that Sean uh about eight or so Oh get out already we do just not on the desktop version tough I worried eight hours today I like ya know I I know I have I I'm horrible at the game but I keep trying it's good it's addicting it's really rewarding when something awesome happens when something bad happens like your whole ship catches on fire it's so depressing but awesome at the same time it's a great game exactly well and speaking of uh having apps for flights Raoul s wants to know what are your favorite iOS apps and Joey since you're not on iOS I guess you can also say whatever your favorite android apps are typically most android apps are also an iOS so yeah yeah exactly uh the the one I just started playing and I'm fighting oddly addictive is a Star Wars assault team ah kids are such a nerd cut if it has star wars in the title you're all over at are you maybe I'll of threes that's like the game I've been playing yes wait stuff I was gonna recommend threes too and someone just poured it over to iOS or Android as well so yeah it's off but it doesn't work very well on Andrew at least for me on two phones i have installed it on it's a little lag Lee and it doesn't it doesn't like have runtime support so if you close programs in me it gets like real messed up um do we lose Joey we may have Joey happen all continuous thought what happens on Three's is that it says it's no longer installed when i go back to open it again which is maybe what he was getting to other he is hey guys hey hey you froze her first thing um yeah i mean on mine you know I I used to have a horrible Magic the Gathering addiction and then I sold all my cards for a gigantic ridiculous sum of money made a huge profit so now I play magic on the iPad you know so I I still get my fix without you know spending tons of money like i used to buy like card packs and stuff too right there's a couple games that have something yeah yeah uh my iPads not exciting it's a lot of work-related stuff Pandora a lot of video streaming stuff Dropcam so I can check out my dog's a lot of travel apps you know hotel related stuff airplane related stuff so I I'm not very exciting when it comes to apps yeah my iPads like a reddit machine that's pretty much yeah Louie use a lot of reddit to uh but I i guess my most used apps probably RunKeeper so yep alright let's see here we'll take one more question and just a quick know we will be back on Wednesdays next week folks it's just today was this week there was just too much going on unfortunately on Thursday Taj Mahal again and this is always a a big question do you think the apple TV set set actually secretly exists yes I I make a new one definitely there's there's at least prototypes you know we we have over the years never been able to get to sources to corroborate the story we have at technobuffalo gotten one source at one time one source at another time and the stories never quite line up of people that tell us they've seen it but it's never been concrete enough for us to emphatically say yes we've talked to people to have seen it so at which of course I just said it but I'm putting a lot of disclaimers around it i did i do think they played with it i think there are prototypes if we'll ever see them publicly that's a completely different question you guys have any thoughts should Apple ever go into this field I don't think they need to I think it would be an expensive endeavor when really what needs to be fixed on Smart TVs is software an apple already has really good software with that I think they could build on that with if the rumors are true if they're talking to comcast about sort of creating a cable guide sort of what you see on an xbox one then they can sell apple tv's to take over your set provide all of their services at a much more affordable price and probably larger margins for that I really don't like the idea of Apple teaming up with comcast on anything yeah well I think I think it's more of just like it they want if comcast is providing the Cape say they have a cable input sort of the way that an Xbox that's right that they would just work with them on the guide part I mean I don't know why they would have to Xbox didn't work with comcast on their guide right I know I don't know that just seems like an unholy union that no one want any part of like I don't want that comcast and time warner cable lowly like now alright well guys do you have any final thoughts for this week I do completely unrelated okay first of all go check out the mario kart 8 row that just released because that thing is awesome but also in wii u news if you guys like tactical strategy games Advance Wars just hit the virtual console in the wii u todd i don't know if you ever played that game before no i didn't but i remember when it was popular so is on the game boy advance the original before dual strike on the DS by it so that they know that people want those games nice how much is it I don't know it's like six dogs it's cheap dodging gold simulator how about that it's not my only final thoughts are stay tuned for more windows phone 8.1 stuff again tried once the developer previews out with the next week or so we'll be bringing you as much as we can and I promise to keep my jokes like dad jokes as always everyone thank you for joining us and we do appreciate it if you can look us up on iTunes and rate review us that does help the show you can also find us on RSS you can find this on pocket casts and you can find us on stitcher so for this week I have been Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of TechnoBuffalo I've been joined by the executive editor of mobile Todd asel t'en everyone and the executive gaming joey davidson hey guys until next week which will be back on Wednesdays we'll see you then take it easy