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and welcome to episode 13 of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm live your 3d house for today I'm Sean ani editor and chief of the site i'm joined by executive editor gaming joey davidson hello an executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton everybody are you guys doing today yeah just word of warning to everyone if there's some technical issues in this episode it's because I lost power last night and my router got fried and I'm still trying to get my internet put back together so it's been great fun trying to listen to these two guys in the pre-show yeah we're great try to muddle our wedding I talking to each other yeah yeah there may be just a lot of Joey and Todd talking and I'm sorry guys I know yeah I know you really just come here for me I know yeah it's okay we don't have to tell them it's okay it's our little secret ah so a lot going on this week and of course the we would be remiss if we do is just didn't start with the biggest news of the week hey leaked photos of star wars episode so yeah it seriously is probably the biggest news is I know in some ways I I couldn't believe considering the secrecy that JJ Abrams usually has on his films the first batch of 44 and then the second batch of 22 I was just like someone is getting their ass chewed yeah so everyone is fired yeah well pretty crazy the the brilliant thing is JJ Abrams is now dressed this and you know and the way he did it was so masterful you know he wrote on a card you know hey I wish everyone stopped leaking you know photos of Star Wars Episode 7 and making these ridiculous claims that the Millennium Falcon's in the movie and the card is sitting on a table which if you're a die-hard Star Wars fed you know that's the hollow chess table from the Millennium Falcon all just table from the Millennium all good man said I saw the picture I was like well played Abrams nice the Wookiee has one yeah pretty awesome but we won't since I actually we didn't he requested we removed the images we won't go into too much detail on what was in the images but they were really interesting oh well I guess there was also some big news this week about something called WWDC oh yeah that thing yeah whatever but it was it was exciting so Todd you you've actually played with iOS 8 and you played with OS 10 Yosemite can we just address for the moment that Apple made a marijuana joke yeah that was crazy and a lot of there's like a bunch of editorials yeah they were like how do we how do we name Yosemite like so we went around all these beautiful places in California we were like OS 10 you know this o is 10 that then we went up to weed California OS 10 weed and they're like that that was really popular among the product marketing department and then when they showed the line of and leaving weed and started doing circles yeah and like taking this far along route no I'm just say they're going I cannot believe Apple just paid a marijuana choke yeah there were so many people saying like this is a new apple or like they're back they're funny and stuff like that but i don't know i mean i thought it was funny i just didn't know that we'd be we'd seen this serious Apple I mean they're not like tight like Microsoft has been sometimes the owner buttoned-up enterprise but yeah so we super exciting with iOS 8 I have it right here and I'm running right in here Yosemite both are super buggy right now you have somebody's a little better in iOS 8 but I'd say there's a lot of features that I think Apple fans and iOS fans have been waiting for for a long time and I think that the android fans interview like yet you know who cares in a lot of ways so widgets in the notification shin panel in the shade is pretty cool so that'll be open to third parties now so you can get you know ESPN get the scores right there instead of a notification very different you could have like a widget that shows like you know each inning of a baseball game or something like that and and Sasha Mahal was asking you what your each of our thoughts are on Oh Alice Aiden OS 10 Yosemite and like I was saying only todd has played with them so far but I have you gotten any of the big features to work yet Todd like I know the feature excited me the most was the fact that you're and your text messages and phone calls could come in through Yosemite now right yeah that's not there yet unfortunately I was super excited about that too it's why Russia to to try them all but know some of the ones like where you get the active notifications where you pull down to respond to a text message that's there the keyboards there but it's also really really buggy right now like it slows down a lot I mean it's a super early beta um what else did I really like I don't know I think mostly it feels just like iOS 7 in a lot of ways but like spotlights changed now searches the itunes store for apps and stuff like that so you sort of like as i'm using and i start to see some of the new changes pop up more but the ones i'm waiting for like third-party notifications third-party access to touch ID third-party keyboards like when we get swype and stuff like that none of those are there yet so hopefully soon overall I Sophie from Sasha Mahal I think this addresses a question a lot of people i have were any of you disappointed that we didn't see any new hardware from the WWDC 2014 keynote were you hoping to the face one last thing I'll take that real quick and you know the thing is WWDC is about the developers it's about software so we kind of knew going in that we weren't going to see hardware but still it would have been nice to have least in a refresh on some stuff I mean I was not expecting the iphone I was not expecting that I watch yeah the leg last year we had the mac pro was announced right and we had refreshes on the macbook so you could have seen that you know I think some people were looking for a retina MacBook Air it's tough but uh Joey there's actually one question here for you I don't know if you were you actually watching WWDC during the event now okay have you heard anything about the metal gaming aspect of it no that's like their new engine I think right like I don't even know how gaming engines actually work Joey I'd be for you but I think what they announced was like this metal engine for iOS developers take advantage of that's how I understood it I mean I imagine it looks really powerful it's probably very similar to like the Unreal Engine and everything else is probably just add just a development engine so basically think of it like a toolset for developers to create their game with that's more or less what it is right so I mean if Apple's got an exclusive development engine that's good news for developers the only issue is depending on how dynamic it is I don't have you ever told around with GarageBand for instance yeah I'm put it around tool around with GarageBand enough and you use this the sample loops enough just like when you're goofing around you'll start to notice garage pan songs like used in crappy YouTube videos and stuff yeah yeah if if the development suite isn't very robust you'll see assets repeat in games so like look I notice that tree or something like that right you bright right there's a reason why all Unreal Engine characters have that same like stocky big shoulder gears yeah that's because of that that version of the engine was not very well stocked with builds for characters so that could be an issue but it all depends on how Apple does it which I have no idea they're doing it so that's super interesting that I didn't know that yeah well be powerful there don't seem to be a bigger focus on gaming so I'm not sure what exactly apples going to try to do here but let's see here what else we've got we've got several WWDC question and of course they all moved on and they get a lot of ways so we can talk about sort of the software enables a lot of things that we don't know where they're gonna go to yet and i think that there's hardware coming that might support them for example now when the iphones plugged in you can say hey Siri and it'll answer you it'll light up an answer and I think maybe the iphone 6 if they really work on the battery life will have like an always listening mode so that like the older iPhones have to be plugged in but it still works but if you have the iphone 6 you know you can say hey Siri whenever you want that seems like pretty plausible ten how yeah what I just I just I wanted to kind of get this out there because I think a lot of people especially on our site during WWDC announcements we're kind of making this claim and I wanted to catch you're just a blush opinion about it sure is Apple playing catch up with a lot of Android features here yeah yes to me that they are yeah a lot of those are um so always on is on the Moto X right and you can google there right yay say okay Google now um yeah we're okay Google and on a lot of phones as long as the screens on it works it doesn't have to be plugged in so like the galaxy s5 I don't think it works natively on the one mA actually a pretty sure it doesn't I'm so a lot in it obviously the Nexus 5 and stuff like that so catch up there catch up in obviously the notification shade where you're getting third party widgets and stuff like that catch up on third-party keyboards in terms of the galaxy s5 catch up on opening up a fingerprint reader to third parties so yeah there's a lot of features that I think our Apple is definitely playing catch-up but for iOS fans that for whatever reason have no interest in android these are nice features for them too but um that's a good point like there aren't many features announced tonight that you could get on Android one way or another because it's so open in a lot of ways for developers so like getting text messages on your computer we've seen that before with Motorola has their own software that does that it's awesome and there's software already actually for both iOS and Android lets you do that place phone calls and stuff from your computer but I think native support all this from Apple just shows kind of like a different company where they used to lock everything down and now it's I mean it's still certainly locked down in a lot of ways but its opening up more to developers and that's what was exciting I think for Apple for everybody actually just they have announced a another director for another of the standalone Star Wars films oh god Sean his shot is just live in the Star Wars life right now yeah I'm not familiar with the structure his name's josh trank he's gonna keep going okay anyway yep I'm living the star a it was breaking news from Sasha Mahal and again Todd since you've played with both of them do you think the Apple is slowly emerging iOS and OS 10 together because of the changes they are making the both platforms well I think we should they're not merging them together at all and then Apple's actually said that specifically or not creating one platform for all these devices at least not yet and there they say they have no plans to do so what they're doing though is sort of creating an experience where you can take your phone and and this is something that is not available on Android and was exciting or for google um where you're using something on your phone like email you're writing an email and then you move to your computer and you continue writing that email right in the mail app and stuff like that's really cool and then keeping the same kind of design look and we knew that was coming in Yosemite the iOS the flatter icons I'm looking at it right now they're all they're cleaner look you've got a lot of the translucent user interface styles so that kind of stuff like it doesn't feel like you're leaving an apple product or anything like that or you're ever you but you don't have to be in front of your computer or your phone you can seamlessly switch between them I think is where they're going with this but not certainly not converging the two to one platform well it's my opinion that that and I think anecdotally I see it working with members of my extended family but it's my opinion that Apple's trying desperately to create this ubiquitous ecosystem right with their products it's like because I own an iPad I'm just this is generically speaking because I own an iPad and because I own an iPhone it would make using a macbook very easy or you know and and and i look at my my mother and father-in-law for instance they recently made the switch over to iOS devices like so they're on their iphones on their iPads and and dick my father-in-law that's right his name is dick comes up to me and he just goes do you think we should get a macbook and I'm like well you get whatever you want to get he's like well we know iOS now and so there's like this kind of this sense of like really easy unification that makes the switch quite easy so when I think I was Sasha bahal who said that but I don't personally think like you said Todd that they're ever going to be like iOS is going to be the platform period but I do think that they are going to make the bridges between devices less and less seamless right right laura moore stephens yeah exactly exactly yeah and that's what they did even with messages and stuff like that now every message i sent on my iphone used to be that I go on my iPad and I could see the message is coming to me but not mine going out so now it's all there across devices you know it's small things like that and on my computer too so I'd messages up right here it can see all you know everything that's been going on right alright so kind of cool yeah I don't think their apples bluntly said they're not going to completely merge them by I definitely see them influencing one another I think it's like you were saying Joey it's referred to as the halo effect and you know it's definitely working yeah for sure so also on monday and i am sure we'll come back to WWDC during the open Q&A section but also on Monday Joey there seemed to be a lot of gaming news considering the fact that III is only a week away do you think is going on well I mean I there there seems to be this conception right now that PR firms need to get out ahead of the e3 wave so that's kind of what we're seeing instead of instead of mortal kombat x for instance which was announced on monday instead of that just being a a low Rumble amidst all the news it at e3 it had dedicated news time on Monday it's kind of frustrating from our point because like I'm i am I'm working towards III and then these announcements come up and I'm just like crap I gotta stop what I'm doing taking an announcement whatever but but for the games themselves and for the PR company is representing them it makes more sense to announce them a week or ahead of time because Forza horizon 2 which was announced on Monday Mortal Kombat X which was announced on Monday and Batman's delay in 2 2015 was also announced on Monday it's it's all stuff that I think that the companies wanted to do ahead of e3 that way the buzz was already starting to be generated for their product and then they promised more at the show which is what we're gonna see there so it's just kind of an interesting way for them to be handling it you know we see that sometimes too with like Mobile World Congress know any sort of we're flying all the way out there and then announcements are made you're like alright why am I here again you know or or CES in a lot of ways sometimes right right yeah it's I I had a feeling that's what was going on instead of being caught in the crush of so much news next week go ahead and get your news out now when you could potentially control the news cycle but it looked like a whole bunch of people had the same idea right right I want to actually ask what what Brantley Jensen just said what do you think the mystery 3ds title BTW 3d see that Sean I am looking go go ahead and start asking all good i I just I mean I wanted to say like we we are on the books um there there is definitely at least one on announced 3ds title but what Nintendo does is the show so like Tuesday they have their their presser in the morning or this year they're doing that digital event thing again and then Tuesday evening we're at a round table for I think smash brothers and then Wednesday evening they signed us up for a round table that was just an unannounced radius game so whatever it is which which they have obviously have not revealed yet it's big enough to dedicate a hour to two hour long developer roundtable discussion for and they've only ever done this in the past at least since I've been there for titles like pokemon X&Y was one that they did last year so it's it's going to be a big game whatever it is I don't think it's gonna be a simple we might see Majora's Mask remake maybe that could happen but I don't know if if that's gonna be the big one there there's they've got something going on I don't know what it is yet obviously so not sure but it's big yeah you would know better than anyone Joey you know or at least have a guess at what it is and there was one other question here it's the one thing i hate about the question thing is it moves things around on me so rapidly from a ver con ash mar do you think nintendo will start selling gamecube controllers again now that they're releasing an adapter and that was a a pre III announcement from them that they will be an adapter for super smash brothers yeah i mean when they show off that adapter there was a gamecube controller plugged into it with the smash logo in the center so that that might be something that you get when you buy the adapter so if you buy the the four gang thing the four input thing i wouldn't be surprised if it comes with that x that xbox that smash brothers gamecube controller and hopefully they start selling more because I mean to be if Mario Kart 8 and the new smash brothers are both playable with the new gig with the old gamecube controllers thanks to that adapter a lot of nerds are going to be in stupid heaven so hopefully they will sell a few extra those input devices because I will definitely buy a new one all my old ones are shot at this point so I love that controller it felt really good the c-stick was stupid but the triggers on that controller were the best yeah yeah from dominique weber and this refers to mortal kombat x Joey do you think that the mortal kombat trailer was actual gameplay um it's hard to say I'll start there and I don't know but the thing about fighting games and it's also true for racing games they can look better than everything else on the console and that's mostly because of the the very small specific slice of a game's world that they have to render at once instead of like an open world game which tends to be the ugliest thing that a platform will released because of the vast amount of things that have to be rendered in the fighting game in a racing game you're you're rendering this very narrow tiny slice so did Mortal Kombat X look impressive yes is it possible that it was gameplay yes that wouldn't really surprise me I'm not sure either way but it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if it was and also in relation to e3 here we have from sahal Raja do you think he and III PlayStation will actually show off project Morpheus I might release it for ps4 uh well we know it's coming for the PlayStation 4 that's that's a done deal whether or not they'll show it at e3 I imagine they will I think that they said at GDC that they'll bill don't have more on a 93 so we'll find out on Monday night is sony's press conference so i imagine we'll know that yeah it's gonna be a very busy monday next week and flowing into Tuesday morning with the Nintendo Direct yeah but I you and Eric will both be on the ground so we will have lots of gaming coverage next day yeah yes we're actually sending two people this year this is a first so I expect it to be worth it uh let's see here for also from Dominique Weber is there any chance that we'll see GTA 5 4 ps4 xbox one Andy 30 rock star doesn't typically show off games v3 first of all that's that's not really a big thing for them I mean they would they can and they they could but I wouldn't necessarily expect it from them if if anything it might be a bullet point one of the major pressors but I doubt it I died out and I imagine announce that on their own they don't need III they really don't have all right you guys are that game would be for both platforms I mean I would love to see it but I would love to see it on PC first yes there is released on the pc and that's that's it's just getting a little bit ridiculous oh yeah here's a question that kind of applies to all of our fields from Sasha Mahal why is everything either coming out in 2015 or delayed until 2015 this goes for games tekken movies and there has been a tremendous amount of delays lately even in films in games especially you know I is there actually we did just hear about windows delaying the start button in 2015 yeah but yeah that's true i guess but i don't i don't see that as like a huge thing and that's because i think they're gonna put it in in i guess windows 9 or something like that I don't necessarily think that the things can be related yeah I I I don't think they're all related to one another Bay and what the world is supposed to end in 2014 they just don't want the police right let's just push it back that way we all go out on a high note right III think with with gaming at least it makes sense to me that it's happening because these are new consoles so maybe they were developing for the xbox one and playstation 4 and they hit a snag or they discovered something that they didn't know about the platform and that could make their game better and so they pushed it back it makes sense to me if we were three years into these consoles lives I don't think that we'd be seeing the same types of delays but I'm not surprised based on on how old these are I mean they're not even to you they won't even be a year old by this October when a lot of these games were delayed out of that month so we'll see it's interesting i'm not sure about phones though yeah i haven't heard anything about mean phones the cycle is sort of different what movies were delayed actually just this morning the Warner Brothers delayed Jupiter ascending from the y cos keys from july until februari okay well i know so are you gonna sneak one out in the press release this morning why I mean that they might be trying to get it out for award season they might have like what they see rather than releasing it as a popcorn flick tour released on its own in February yeah exactly exactly but I make sure for movies is just bonkers with everything that's coming out right but it will be think with some things too like like a tough when you look at the landscape and maybe decides not you know the right choice we saw the surface mini which a lot I mean pretty much everybody assumed it was coming and then it just didn't and it sounded like it was pretty much cancelled like a couple days before the press conference and you know and at that point they might say like look we have the display we have you know and that's why there's talks of supplier the supply chain still talking about the surface mini they like they have the display they have the memory and all that stuff they want to use it maybe they're waiting for a faster processor or something before before tackling the market and they just didn't think it was a right time to do it now and I don't think it would have been I've argued against the surface mini sort of especially because Windows RT sort of lower powered but and actually I well we'll go ahead and move into general questions we have a some questions from someone named jacob kleinman i never heard of them who i believe should be working and not listening to us do you think an iWatch is more or less likely after the health kit announcement I think it's more likely that I might be crazy but I think so I mean you have all this I'll bring up health right here I mean there's all this data that it can collect the health app and I get it like there's there's medical firms that make devices that could easily you know use bluetooth and plug in using Apple's new health kit but there's a lot in here that could be populated with anything you know uh you know from anybody who partners with Apple for just a regular fitness band even and I think if Apple wanted to they certainly have the platform now to do it themselves and that's why I think that watch is more probable look a lot of people still don't believe in it so who knows I I don't know I tend to believe in it they've hired too many people that are from that field yeah and I and we saw what was it called samsung's new platform the name is escaping me but it was super powerful like Samsung was on stage wearing a watch and it showed you know the heart ray and and was it blood pressure i think in there too all kinds of data that it was using light sort of from different angles in the wrist through your bloodstream that it was able to collect all this stuff in real time so it's not a question of is it possible because it's certainly possible to make a slick looking and powerful health wearable it's just it is Apple going to do it themselves or work with partners instead now n boat probably both if and of course just as i was going to click on a question for Julia moved yeah from David berkovich do you think Sony and Microsoft will eventually do what Nintendo's doing with their presentation for e3 in the future or continue to have their press conferences on stage um I think that man that's a good question I don't know I personally think that Nintendo is good for doing what they're doing there I i hate the stage presentations at this point my life I think there's a here I mean it's mine it's the internet and and has just gotten so good that it doesn't matter i don't need to be there alive and nine times out of ten the only people cheering in the audience for these things are the people making them the holidays right i remember i was at a ubisoft show forever ago and the only people cheering about like they're raving rabbids stuff we're the guys who made raving rabbits like that's it um so I just I I do not like the press conference format that we have now and I would much rather have a straight solid well made a glitch free video streaming show that just happens that Allah Nintendo but I don't know if Sony and Microsoft are going to do it the thing about Sony especially as they turn theirs into a party so after the show is over the current lifts up and then there's like actual hands-on stations and bars and crap behind it it's a P it is a good PR thing for them they always have the late show they always have drinks and food and pretty much every press member who stays winds up liking it a lot so I don't see them getting rid of that but Microsoft they're like eight o'clock in the morning man I know several people who are like uh stupid microsoft make me get out of bed at eight o'clock the quickest way to win over press people give us food yeah sony if i remember correctly don't they have like a pregame to outside in the parking lot and any game but I think it's worth I'll gating they do was if we have to have was like yo Katie they have they have they basically the last several years anyway they just run out of parking lot yeah well they build two separate bars and that like go around the perimeter I mean there's it we take a really weird stance on this personally and and I'm the only person that goes for TechnoBuffalo so that's I don't really engage in this stuff because I find it rather boring um I could I don't really I don't like corona light and that's about the best beer that they have there so I don't really want their crappy horde of wares and they're lame corona lights they can but it's really super ol it was cool when I first started when I was younger yeah you're like oh I'd rather just be at home with a coffee and sandwich right I know that that sounds really stupid but I mean it is it is how I feel like so would intend to announce that there go on digital just like yes I can lay in bed not put pants on sit there and watch the show and then what then migrated over to the conventional there's nothing better than covering a press event in your underwear yeah much other do that and drink crappy beer in front of people in a way to hot parking lot a question from Dominic Weber behind the scenes of technobuffalo are all of you working from home full-time well those of us that are not in irvine work from well I technically don't work from home this is not my house I actually have a separate building and my office is in but the everyone in irvine works out of the irvine office so they actually go to an office and they have to wear pants actually did shirts aren't allowed right I got straight okay well he was shorts no Roy when I was out in California little story froze freak I Roy was like hey if it's above what he say like 85 I think there's above 85 you can wear shorts and I was like oh I brought shorts really hot out so I wore shorts and everybody's like oh you can't wear shorts and he tricked me the rule is no sure it's gotta wear pants in the office and I know the joke you have to you have to cover you know you can't just wear boxers but not even just shorts I guess man hey god I would want to work out there I mean I work in my bracelet so is that I like I'm literally that guy writes about video games yeah that's me but I'm in my living room they can have a piece I got a nice basement thank you all right I got a pool table over there you'd show you the view of Manhattan there you go here you uh that pool table is a write-off for business meeting space happy go my club my clients come over I since my computer's an imac i'm not going to lift it and show you guys yeah God because basically anything not within the camera range is a mess yeah everything behind me she yeah Oh bodies which by the way Joey last night once again the air conditioning moved it and set off the motion detector working from home I don't know about you Todd I it is not all it's cracked up to be yeah uh you just don't give your desk uh yeah like I always make a joke but it's I'm dead serious my wife comes home and she's like we need milk and I'm like I got it I'm going to get the milk oh yeah don't interact with some people attack my god it's so true i'm like i need to get out of here like i gotta go somewhere around people oh god well and that's one of the reasons i like the nicety the fact that my office is in a building other than my house so when I go home I'm home because I used to work out of my house and it did get to the point where you're just like it's 2 a.m. I I don't know when to stop working and I've got to get up and leave it I mostly sit at my desk just for work to let some playing dayz with brandon and ralph's like then I and that's like a way to do it to like if you leave your desk yeah yeah I mean I don't even have a TV nice like I just like the video game stuff my computer it's all work stuff we don't even we don't hang out down here so yeah yeah yeah the UH so yeah the the the irvine folks all go to an office which actually we just sign you last week for a brand new office so there will be a new office tour coming up sometime in the fall I believe we move in in october i mean if if they want to rent me in office here I wish I know there are Buffalo Delaware addition there are lockers whoo hoo do that though they like adding office spaces yeah I'll totally do that yeah we can do a collective office time we can meet a better commute like we both have to our commutes even though he's like man I'm so sick of this commute just so Joey Todd can hang out in a rented office together right we'll probably hate each other it would be the worst office I never got my daughter cool trash everywhere yeah love water cooler in a nice plant there is a water cooler in the TechnoBuffalo office and every once awhile when I'm out there I just like to go stand next to and goes anyone want to gossip yeah yeah let's gossip song what this is all cracked up to be from Sasha Mahal hey Shawn well whatever is under that sheet be revealed by the end of 2014 or will the reveal be delayed in into 2015 it's the techno bubble show series finales what that's what's gonna happen yeah but it's got it's gonna roll out like some crappy found-footage horror film like Sean's cameras gonna fall over and then these sheets gonna drop and there's gonna be a weird person just standing there yes but actually you guys have seen what's behind the curtain because during the week I lift it it only by only drop it to the ground during the don't we haven't seen anything as noticed yet let's do a word he's saying he's trying to play it off like oh they've totally seen it we have not from Dominique Weber how successful is the tectum Buffalo show um we're growing but I think it's very successful we're very happy with that otherwise we wouldn't be here every week right i mean it it's knit we do more than do more than the video show which obviously you guys are watching now that we have an audio show too so people subscribe to it that way I know our cumulative views have gone up since we yeah dropped tech on the range and then relaunch this so ya know our key Moses viewership / listenership is higher than was on tech on the range so which I still I still love the name for the show that I came up with but yeah that is a great not everyone else dude makes reminds me of red dead redemption kind of oh yeah I mean I was so happy with the with the CEO 2k or I mean take-two interactive came out it was just like red dead redemption is a red dead as a permanent franchise for us yes I know yeah that's awesome that was my happiest news I've heard in a long time but now we won't hear anything on that at e3 right I I would love to see that Eddie 3 I would collapse 83like I would be like a like a stereotypical old woman in the 1930s collapsing and Eric frederickson's can have to fan me I've either you ever seen Mike Meyers movie so I married an axe murderer yeah yeah remember the part where the bagpiper falls down and Mike Myers goes we've got the piper down oh these are Piper's now someone would run up next to Joe angle weave bloggers down I reviewed a blog wrote it down Walker his head's like an orange on a toothpick we have a question that I I want get to and I'm not even gonna try to pronounce this name because it's written in Russian dan Uggla thank you for asking your question I'd love to say your name but I now do you believe that Google self-driving car service can kill uber and other taxi services I I'm fascinated by the self-driving car movement because I'm one of those people I despise driving yeah I hate driving that's why i love Lewbert well and especially like when I do fly out to irvine I have to drive three hours to an airport I those are the three worst hours of my week I hate that so as for if it will kill goober though I don't think so i think uber will just I I don't think google wants to get into the business really of selling consumer cars I think they want to develop the technology and then license that technology out to companies and I could see uber purchasing cars with that technology and getting rid of their drivers yeah uber said it wants to have self-driving cars you which is interesting because they also brag about how many people they give jobs to on a weekly like how many jobs they create each month I guess so they're about to take them away but also GM didn't think like one of the head executives there just said that he sees Google self-driving cars is serious competition in the future so that kind of suggests that maybe I mean you think that they would if they saw google as such huge competition then there wouldn't be a licensing deal because they were just probably license it I don't know right something weird right I think it's all really cool but uh who was I talking to you somebody recently was like whoa this is really scary to me because they talk about real Big Brother stuff these self-driving cars I know everything where you are and also I think a health stuff seeing crazy Joey I think you would love a self-driving car think of how much mobile gaming time you get get in yeah I like driving it doesn't hurt that tip to tip from my status like an hour and 15 minutes but whatever exactly yeah got big commute today I Drive 20 minutes yeah I read that's the biggest drawback to where I live is whenever I have to fly somewhere and it's like uh okay Kansas City she isn't mean three hour drive each other runway on your property yeah or at least a helipad a helipad the techno Buffalo chopper yeah just whatever John will get real smart if you request one and send that one of those crappy $50 remote control jobbies it's like this denier jerk yeah one of the parrot ar.drone someone on the youtube comment stream because it would you watch that or at least i do ask about our views on piracy on game piracy mmm do you guys want to hit that I mean we go for it me well I we can all touch on but I feel you should leave it ok uh video game piracy so I don't really think I mean I don't know we talked about it here on the show but I've written about our on technobuffalo before I generically speaking I think the people that pirate games just because they don't want to pay for them are not cool um I don't like that guy I understand I understand why certain people pirate game said that you live somewhere in the world where a game will be ludicrously priced like even even Australia which you would think they should have reasonable prices for video games they do not even the digital marketplaces just it's double triple quadruple what they charge us for games here which is ridiculous so I kind of get that mentality when it's your only way to stick it to the man is to steal it I don't necessarily think that makes it right but I kind of understand it generically speaking I think that video game piracy and the drm that it's created and that companies have created in lieu of video game piracy are really really bad things all around I good customers pay the price because bad customers don't want to pay when SimCity launched they said that that it was it was always online so that they could make it a better game experience for everyone do not buy that crap and and the reason why I can say definitively now do not buy that crap is that the game is running offline just fine so it didn't need to be online at all it's because they want to make sure that all the copies are valid and the problem is that people who are willing to buy them legitimately are paying the price so I hate piracy for that but I understand why some do it you know I think that stealing is stealing and you should support developers with with with your money if you like a game and you want to see more of it the best way to cast your vote so to speak is with your wallet so mmm now Joanne I by no means am I trying to insinuate that this is piracy but I've always been curious about this how do you feel about the humble bundles because you can purchase those games without any of the money going to the developer you can give all the money to charity if you want well with the Humble Bundle uh developers make the decision to be in on it so the Humble Bundle team will say okay here's here's Humble Bundle number 5 here's how well these games did here's how much money developer a B and C made you know would you like to be a part of this and then developers go in knowing that there are going to be people who drop one penny one dollar two dollars three dollars in the bucket but then they also know that depending on the crowd of games that the bundle includes there's going to be people that dropped five thousand ten thousand fifteen thousand dollars into the bucket as well they've made a ton of money and the M games that have been featured in humble bundles generically speaking have done very very well so I mean it's not obviously it's not piracy but it's also not exactly taking advantage of the developers either because they're making good money off with the program anyway so okay I was just curious I'd never had a chance to ask you about that and I always wondered how you felt about that in general I courts Todd you know with piracy in your field that means someone actually stole a phone ah we're apps for like gonna cut I mean you can i install alleged that apps pretty easily if you you know on android especially or a jailbroken iphone but you then you worry about the quality of the app and the updates and stuff like that I don't know for me I've always just paid for it and that's why I actually I love services like Spotify and google play music and stuff on that and because now I can get all the music i want without you know it's not cheap but it's also not that expensive either right yeah yeah for me eowyn while I cover technology i also someone considered the the streaming media guy and all that and for me you know i think that there's such an abundance of content now i just i don't understand why anyone would pirate you just turn on netflix there's gonna be something you want to watch well though dad yeah but I was just gonna say the thing I have it with piracy and movies and stuff is it movies are still pretty expensive to rent not that bad pretty expensive considering you're getting like what an hour and a half two hours of entertainment out of it and to own obscenely expensive because most news only watch once like I would buy a lot of movies if they were four bucks but i'm not spending you know no i agree with you yeah i mean the the pricing is out of line and but like for instance you know I I didn't get a chance to see machete kills in the theater last year and I had no interest in buying it on DVD because I knew I had watched it only once and sure enough it showed up on netflix last week I'm like okay so i had to wait a year right big deal you know i just turned on netflix and watched it one morning while doing some work you know so I i think the miss the quote unquote necessity of piracy is definitely dropping in movies and television because everything ends up online at some point right well I mean that the biggest the biggest and best way for publishers and I mean games movies music whatever to combat piracy is to increase accessibility so do you think that gamers in Australia would be pirating as many games as they do now if games were cheaper and easier to get the answer is no they would not and that's part of the reason why schemes wall garden works so well steam what do you want to admit it or not is drm that's what it is built on it is built on the principle of drm but because valve is so smart about how they do things and they constantly offer sales people like it and it makes valve a ton of money as long as you make things easy and accessible piracy becomes a non-factor because why pirate when you can get a legitimate working copy of the game for like dollars you know mmhmm yeah I love ya exactly exactly well I think that is going to do it for this week unless you've any final thoughts I mean I'm just seeing someone saying not everyone can get netflix you know like that's exactly what we were just saying though like we understand that that piracy is is your your recourse if you don't have the options of availability and affordability we understand that and I'm not chastising those who are the situation where they don't have access to these things no of course them we're chastising those who have a the money and be the accessibility to them and pirate anyway like because they just are standing on principle that they don't want to pay for a video game or a movie just support content creators if you're in a position to do so support them they need your support so totally agree totally agree Todd do you have any final thoughts no I agree that's well put well Joey can every once awhile string a thought together but that was his one for the day right even working clock is right twice exactly well as always we appreciate you joining us you can find the TechnoBuffalo show on iTunes where we do appreciate if you rate and review us you can also find us on the stitcher which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere you can subscribe via RSS feed you can find us on Pocket cast pretty much anywhere you can find a podcast you can find the tycon Buffalo show until next week I've been shown on e I'm the editor-in-chief of the site I've been joined by executive editor of gaming joey davidson see you guys later and executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton see everybody we'll see you back here next week till then take it easy bye-bye