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and welcome to the 35th episode of the techni Buffalo show online you're two hoes for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site i'm joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton everybody if everyone thinks Todd looks a little fancy today it's because he's gotta go to fox but that's right yeah soon as we're done with the show he he has to leave for uh is it fox or fox business to the fox business today yeah I figured those fox business but you never know for sure so yes a car comes to get um yep it's nice it's all fancified way so we make up the show a few minutes short today simply because Todd does need to leave and get ready to go over there because he may have a shirt tie on but no pants yeah that's right my pants on so a couple things we wanted to go over today first up being do we want Apple driving us around yeah and actually I guess that's sort of you know fits with what I'm supposed to talk about today a little bit on fox business which is I guess some cyber security and cars and so when you have all these tech companies and it sounds like you know okay so Tesla's already there is like no making this electric car right and then Apple is apparently going to give Tesla run for his money right so then you it's now this computer company going after Tesla and that's what becomes interesting with cyber security right so obviously it seems like it'll have some kind of you know probably connected car in a way powered by iOS maybe or something like that which would be really interesting but then Senator Mark II which is what I'm going to talk about fox business today is concerned that most automakers have no plan in place for what happens with security so like if a hacker hacks your car like what do you do and the car maker doesn't even know apparently which is kind of interesting um well we have a question here from Sasha Mahal is the Apple car real if so would it be called the iCard just the app car also why would Apple be interested in going into the car business and I think that's the thing we all need to figure out the car business is notoriously thin margins is incredibly hard to break into yeah test two lost 108 million dollars last quarter and I don't know how many cars it's sold but we find out it was the thing Apple has enough money in its war chest if it loses 108 million dollars and a quarter it's going well whatever but I don't I keep feeling like this is going to be a partnership with an existing car company and not the tesla model of making their own cars you don't think so yeah I think that's what sort of dangers to because i was just looking so Tesla's built 35,000 cars last year but was unable to sell them all only 35,000 car tests not very many no it's not so where's the demand for this kind of stuff I don't know actually I apple won't you the tesla model built itself but you know that we've been hearing about this apple in the apple car for a long time right is rumors it keeps coming up and up and up and then all of a sudden it was like you know iOS in the car right and then it's kind of like okay you know apple for cars but it's not an apple car so i don't know that there's evidence is going to actually you know build cars yeah i think that's you know and speaking to tesla not being able to sell all those cars i I've ridden in a Tesla it was a I've not driven one by Britain in one and it was a lovely experience and while it would have a lot of usability in certain situations you know take someone like me for instance i live in a rural community i live on a dirt road you know I can't count the number of times I've had to pull a neighbor out of a ditch because they've slid off in the ice or whatever right you know a Tesla is not going to be able to do that maybe the Tesla SUV when it comes out but the current Tesla's know you know yes he's putting into hyper chargers and around the country I cannot tell you where the closest hypercharger is to kirksville missouri there is no place for me to charge in kirksville outside of whatever i would install my own hand so there's a lot of markets in the United States where he can't even begin to try to sell these cards yet right exactly so you understand why by the demesne I mean why they're only making what 35,000 cars and I think they sold 120 in China which is supposed to be a huge market for Tesla exactly exactly and we have no idea if this apple cart is real it we don't know if it's electric we don't know if it's yo hydrogen we don't know if it's regular gas or some sort of hybrid although i can guarantee with apple it's going to be a minimum of hybrid right right if it's a real car uh I don't have the hardest thing to swallow here is that we've heard this story so many times apple's building a car and then it just never nothing ever really comes out of it and I monitoring the flight the people are hearing sources that are saying Apple's working on stuff for cars and you know the telephone game transfers that into apple's building a car but it seems like a lot this week came out with the you know first Apple giving Tesla run for its money and now this but you know I think Apple could you spy Tesla right like I don't think I don't understand why I started from scratch yeah well we have a question from saha Raj what cars do you both drive I was geordie Explorer what's that what what your is I think it's 2006 that's all I I'm rocking a 99 Tahoe yeah yeah I which is you know something John makes fun of me on a regular basis of cos i love my Tahoe I that's why I won't give it up I don't be here nice re straw the 99 jeep cherokee which i also love yes i still have a tape deck in a I don't have bluetooth I don't have onstar I don't have a 0 but it drives it gives me from point A to point B and I'm Abby right right so I don't know onna the Apple car is going to be an interesting story to follow like like you said Todd we've been hearing this story for so long now that it's hard to believe that all of a sudden there's so much information at once yeah what came first Apple the television set Apple TV or the apple cart no but those rumors of them that's a good question i'm not sure which one popped up first I mean and we've we've been to the point where we've talked to people that have claimed to have seen the apple TV in person and that's quite possible that there are prototypes but will it ever be released to nose yeah you know and same with the apple cart I mean these this is a company that has so much money they can just go hey you know it'd be fun to play around with yeah exactly like act like you know let's have a team of five people's just you know see what they can come up with yeah exactly nits yeah well it's just like Google in the twenty percent time you know that their employees are allowed to spend twenty percent of their time on passion projects that may never turn into anything right or or you know the project x guys here and women yeah the moonshot guys i means yeah so is the apple car real I have no idea I I would say this I would imagine Apple has explored this concept but that does not necessarily mean they're actually working on it yeah I don't know everyone knows as much as we do at this point it's I'd rather see Apple get into like redesigning public transportation like mosques vision of the Hyperloop you know like give us faster trains that are awesome instead of car I don't know no I've talked about that before I mean I've traveled to Japan and England where trains are a mainstay of public transportation and I love it I I and it's a great way to get around and it saddens me how this country the United States is torn up so much of our train tracks and we pretty much do use it just for free mes are still passenger trains yeah I took one from irvine to San Diego for the comic-con the summer but in general it's just for freight nail and you know I don't want but i think the especially outside the East Coast I mean then we have the whole corridor here Bob yeah you see and all the way done but still yeah well at the apartment in the u.s. is such a car culture though I mean we we live yo what what do you start dreaming about when you're a small child when can I get my driver's license yeah that's true yeah so I don't know should be interesting so the other thing we wanted to discuss was both you and John yesterday received your gear vr s yeah my desk things crazy it is my family I put it on my wife's head last night and she was like what the heck is going on you know it's incredible that death is that it's two hundred dollars you know retail price and what it can do with just your your note for if you already own it note for and you want to check this out i mean i feel like it's worth 200 bucks um it's a I think the craziest thing is like you put it on and you can like view 360 videos it that Samsung and oculus have provided but the graphics it's not super sharp it's not as amazing is what we've seen on why are you making funny face I'm sorry I apologize Twitter one of the things I follow our Twitter just ran past with a picture of Sigmund and the sea monsters which was a 1970s Marty Krofft show amazon video is developing a sigma in the sea monsters pilot nice back I'm like I wish everybody who's listening later kids I'm sorry I apologize i was listening to you by was like segment of the sea monsters we're bringing that back yeah i'm sorry please continue right and it looks really cool it's just amazing that at it that can work on a two-hundred-dollar gadget but it's not nearly as good as on the oculus we've used at I forget the Crescent Bay maybe it's a recent one that we saw a CES which is like I figured it was crossing or not in any case so like the real oculus is insane this is really insane too in fact i was watching the movie hackers yesterday in it like so i'm sitting in the movie theater which you can do it's like this huge movie theater you can have your own house your home cinema so anyway i'm watching hackers on the big screen i'm just like skipping through it's just one of those you know files i have and i get to the point where the bad guy in hackers is playing with his VOR game he's like punching the air he's wearing a headset and i remember watching that years ago thinking like well you can't really do that because there's not like anything like good games you know like way back in 99 or 98 but now here i am watching that scene wearing a headset it's like legitimate obviously this is wild it was a roof meta moment yeah you have a Superman how far we've come here's the thing that I mean we see you know these great advancements going on with the hololens and the gear VR and oculus and everything else but i really wonder you know i i'm a huge media consumer i I've been a video gamer since back in the colecovision days and all that and I just really don't have any interest in doing VR and you would think I would be the target audience for this product hmm yeah cuz I just want to like yesterday I'm like looking for games I wanted to buy content like immediately just like walk around the world or something but I couldn't but I don't know I kind of I can't wait for that kind of stuff but they're right you know here's the thing it's kind of big it's not something like even though I can watch movies and stuff like that I didn't feel like super comfortable it's like I I just eaten and I put it on and then afterwards I was kind of feeling like Josh's but also it's not portable like I would I don't think I'd ever bring in with me on a trip like even for a weekend I mean yeah you gets like this big the case you put it in your room here you know duffel bag or whatever but for me it's something like you just use at home and I think maybe that's partially kind of limiting yeah I mean something like hololens which is more of an augmented reality situation where it's you know assisting me with reality that's that's more interesting because i have can't do it can't deal with reality Todd I need good dealing with reality yeah but yes as soon as that came out of my mouth I was like that about me hey that's far more interesting to me than a virtual reality yo I I don't like the idea of shutting myself off to what's happening around me in such a complete manner right you know I it's almost a little too much like sensory deprivation to me yeah it's kind of freaky yeah exactly and Mimi little anxious exactly you know so I I can see the uses of augmented reality but virtual reality i'm still I'm not a hundred percent sold on yeah it's like when I was in the movie here I keep like because I felt like you feel like you're really there like you're in a movie theater you look down you don't have legs or hands and you're like oh boy it kinda miss jumper and then and then like maybe in real life like your knee it's the coffee table oh like I couldn't even see that even though right right keep ya head between this fake world and really this it's cool everybody should give it a try I think there's a lot of best buys now we're gonna start make it 150 around the United States to start are gonna have like demo stations you can check it out you know that's cool and all that but I'm also germaphobe Oh idea of slapping a gear VR on my head that who knows how many other people have had on that day yeah you know the other thing too is it you really got to make sure the lens is clean because you can see like a little hair I mean you're steering basically a here phone screen you know this far from your face so you can see like everything and I wonder how they're going to keep it all clean in the stores like otherwise you know it probably won't even look nearly as good as what you'd get in the box because you're gonna have to clean it español dad exactly exactly I don't know it's it's going to be interesting eh I I think virtual reality does have some definite uses do especially in teaching situations such as a consumer product I just don't know if it's ever gonna catch on I really don't yeah yeah I'm not call me a naysayer but uh going over to the questions here and this is somewhat related from Benjamin McDonald do you think Google glass will turn into more of a Holograms and a smaller form factor and I'm assuming he means more like a hollow lens I that's something we haven't addressed you know Google's pulled back the current version of glass you know from the Explorer edition and said that they are going to redesign it what do you think they're going to do with it yeah I don't know I think it really can't be so awkward this time around like everybody I'm sorry i never even want to try it because right away I was like that looks so stupid like come on I think it can't look like that like people nobody's gonna want to wear it um it's sort of like geeky bluetooth headset seeing like the big ones that are poking around I don't know nobody wants to worthless so I think that's going to be a problem but they have Tony Fadell from you know the father of the ipod guy who created nest now he's working on this I mean I feel like they have the right guy in place I mean ipod was awesome ness is amazing you know let's see what he can do with Google glass you know a second try but I think they learned a lot I think you couldn't have gone straight to whatever second you know like see Google blast gentoo you couldn't have gone to that without having Google glass and learning from you know all the experiences like people were afraid of their privacy and like they didn't like people with cameras on their heads in private places and movie theaters like all these kinds of places where Google probably didn't even understood I understand like ahead of time that these are going to be roadblocks and now it does so well and use a great learning lesson that segues perfectly into a question we have from Christian for miles do you think the next version of glass will ask you the camera or at least make it optional in order to avoid much of the controversy of the Explorer model that's a really good question i don't know has been really be a module or something like that but but it's almost like it has to have a camera right to like understand where you are like mmm your environment so but maybe it's just not a camera that records things that I'd be like an optional module there exactly I think that glass actually does need the camera but I think you're right if they could make it so it doesn't automatically record if they make it an on recording camera that's just taking in your environment then I think a lot of people will have a lot less trouble with it but then comes the question you know when you do walk into a movie theater they're going to go well do you have the recording module right you know i don't know it's that's sometimes that they definitely need to work on i think a lot of people overreacted to the camera yeah I understand that too I mean like when I saw somebody with Google glass I wasn't like all this person's gonna take pictures of me I was just like this person looks like geek mornings with what was it the galaxy gear event where somebody was taking pictures with the the watch and said this guy doesn't even know I'm taking his picture and it was you oh yeah yeah who did that I don't know it was one of the other blogs i can't remember who was buddy this guy doesn't even know it taking this picture there's Todd yo filming his butt out of that so funny oh good grief too yeah that kind of stuff doesn't bother me we're gonna go off kilter here for just a second I had a feeling somebody was going to ask this during the show from Sasha Mahal off-topic Sean what does the spider Bay a deal between sony and Marvel Studios made for the franchise IE spider-man and for comic book fans moviegoers also how would you like marble to go about spider-man in the MCU ultimate spider-man Miles Morales okay so real quick for those that don't know in the ultimate in the ultimate universe which is a separate marvel universe which actually they're getting rid of this summer spider-man is a teenager named Miles Morales who is black so a lot of people have been going well they this could be there a way to bring Miles Morales into the film's I have no problem with the concept of Miles Morales but when you think spire man you still think Peter Parker and I don't think they're going to deviate from that at all as for how they're going to bring spider-man into the marvel cinematic universe which is what MCU stands for my big question is going to be there has to be at least some sort of references to where were you during the Avengers movie why weren't you helping out with the alien vacation well they can easily say he didn't have his powers yet or something but yeah I just slightly but to me that's gonna that somebody has to throw that into the film sub we're asking why was it your ass helping us with the giant alien invasion yeah let's grill you see I was still currently only owned by Sony and I couldn't play with you guys I I do fight hilarious that the press release that I nounced this was from Sony it was so nice tarted off the press release by saying Saudi welcomes the Marvel Universe Marvel Cinematic Universe into the spider-man Cinematic Universe have like oh no no that's not how this is going I think that part of the problem is that Sony still has creative control and final saying a lot of things so Marvel's going to have to really really push to make these better films than the last couple have been I'm hopeful so that that's my long answer to a very short question from Christopher miles do you think Samsung's rumored redesigns are the result of last year's misfortunes or was it always planned since phones usually take two to three years to design that's a good question i would say it's probably been in the works for a little while because you're right it does take me like at least year these phone companies are starting designs at a time and they've been getting criticism for you know two to three years for their plastic handsets so i think it was in the works but I think maybe you know Samsung really listened up and that's why we her projects euro and and really focused on releasing a handset that's slightly hopefully a little more different than you know sort of it's not that they were repetitive but they sort of work and I think for good reason they were selling millions and millions of them so you kind of want to keep doing that they were you know pushing the cameras and processors and stuff like that book but the at the same time I always find that's interesting that Apple really has not changed the design of that I felt that much over the years right you don't and yes they get it a little bit of criticism but they don't get nearly the criticism samsung was getting I think it's because Samsung phones or just you know like I love that money and then here's a note for right here and i think the note 4 is a great example of where Samsung should continue to head with you know the nice metal edges but the note 4 so we sort of did the high-end the family and so is the galaxy line but they were it was just plastic right and I'm not complaining about the plastic it's just that six months later you start to have like wear and tear around the edges it had like a fake metal border but that would chip off and the back would get all chipped around the camera and stuff and so I understand the complaints that you know you're paying a lot of money for a phone that you have for two years I mean you go apples were you know metal so they scratched yeah but they didn't like get worn down the way the Samsung devices neither did HTC's and so I think that's why there's a proper place to say like hey samsung ones you know use some more premium materials get it right I think that's what they're doing before yeah I don't know I i I've like Samsung phones in the past you know i i've used samsung phones especially in the galaxy s2 original note time period i was using a lot of Samsung's but i don't know i i'm hoping that they do go for a more premium material i think that was a lot of the problem was that samsung phones are considered so plasticky yeah so i don't know we'll see what happens by i agree with you i do think that this was in the works for a while i don't think it's just an immediate reaction to last year why do you think is it immediate reaction last year's we're going to see probably some phones just get cancelled that we never even heard about oh yeah I think Samsung sort of slimming out its family a little bit which is probably a good idea in the company it seemed like every month there is another one her tablet you know just sleep okay there are so many devices there was just ridiculous a personal question from Sasha Mahal a little personal and it's about something he owns have any of you guys had any problems with your pebble mine has been experiencing screen tearing I've only had since October 2014 besides the tooth mark from one of my puppies getting away my pebble I've had no issues of you Todd no I have it on mine I don't wear mine anymore but when I was wearing I all I would suggest sashan is a reach out to pebble on Twitter and that they seem very responsive I follow them and they do seem very responsive so I would reach out to them and as talk to him about it yes you can replace it yeah you never know from moshi sokol uh well the apple stylist be called the magic wand i I'm still debating if this thing even exists uh with you I don't I just don't see it but maybe you know yeah I don't know as for magic wand I mean we have the magic trackpad in the magic mouse so why not not it just doesn't sound very apple I still I don't know well I mean you know I I will say this totally off topic I you know when I first saw the magic trackpad I was like oh that's so silly you know when you're running three monitors I cannot imagine trying to live life without this thing alright so maybe we'll see a magic wand well just it for fast travel between my three monitors there's nothing better that Trek oh good gravy um from saw Raja what are your daily drivers currently Todd yeah I know yours changes like weekly yeah so Galaxy Note 4 i've actually stuck with this these two for you know for I don't know since cdss before see us maybe or i was using the edge back then but the note 4 and the iphone 6 plus my iphone 6 plus is not responding and like the screen doesn't work half the time so I gotta go into an apple store ahead button I know the thing is I treat it well it's not like I dropped it it hasn't there's no water damage that I know of so yeah i'm currently iphone 6 plus + 1 + 1 I I very rarely change up my phones I love the oneplus one but um I gave it to my brother because you need a new phone and I was like here's a great for it's funny because he gets he like you know gadget heads like us we're always looking around you see somebody with a one plus one you know that you know they're in the industry um up on their knowledge and he'd so he'll like walk around people be like oh one plus one man he's like yeah is he not like really a new him I just gave a mine i will say i think one of my favorite things about 1 plus y do this so silly is the simple things on my treat you yeah ladies this is so incredibly handy oh it's great i love it yeah I kind of want to buy another one is he has mine and I really liked it I don't know folks let me tell you working with Todd is a panel about what he is possibly going to buy and sometimes to you and sometimes don't and sometimes to you and then return I so how many times did that ipad mini go in and out of your head oh i think i think i'm on my third and that's it yeah i still have but i would say the other day to my wife I was like I gotta sell this things I don't you sit but I can't isn't I'll buy it again I'm sure oh good gravy uh from Benjamin McDonald do you think moto will make a cheaper version of 360 maybe a square one then I don't think it would be called the Moto 360 what right I don't I'll see it because I think if they do anything they'll make a new one and then drop the price of the current one yeah yeah I I don't know we'll just have to see uh let's see here from any potatoes uh Sam's like any new information on the rumored ran SmartWatch will be another Tyson watch or an Android wear model I think everything's gonna be Tizen now from samsung hwajae going to bed ties in I don't think there's a new information aside from hopefully we see it at Mobile World Congress I think you will see ya it seems like they've put a lot of I know they did Android wear is like a partner with google but they've only done one and I think that you know all all of their other smartwatches you have since been updated to Tizen so I think you're gonna focus on that moving forward I just don't think it more apps like there's on what we can do with those things a interesting question from Christopher miles do you think that most manufacturers have given up on premium tablets besides maybe the dell venue 8 7,000 it's been a while since anything exciting has really come out coming like the last week's topic again yeah i think the tablet market is kind of in a settling position right now it's trying to figure out exactly what it is and i think we're going to see a lot of shake out this year from the tablet market i think a lot of the out layers are going to outliers are going to disappear and we're just going to focus on the core tablets as for super premium I don't know especially with the rumors of the ipad pro so yeah and one you know once that comes out then everything's gonna there's going to be more but Samsung had a great one the 12 22 note 12.2 I think it was him I mean that was a great large screen premium tablet from 19 jaunty 99 is a closed loop water cooling a good idea for gaming computer depends on how much stuff you're running a oh and and how hot it is I've never run one but for me I understand it's amazing I've run a couple water coin I think it's great especially if like you're working on overclocking and you like to have you know a lot of fun paying attention to the temperature of your processors and if you can your water putting your graphics cards to it's a fun hobby to have and it's really not too complicated to do so it's a good idea it's really just like there were times when I had it though especially actually had it in high school when I was in a boarding high school so I'd like to move it every single time like home and back there so it can be a pain so you just want to kind of leave in one place yes I had a fun water cooled and I would do it again so sure that sounds like a weird hobby it is it's like extreme TC hardware hobby extreme pieces yeah from Christopher miles if google made Android wear cross-platform do you think it would put significant downward pressure on the price of the Apple watch no yeah no I don't think so but they should make it cross but a platform considering was in seven hundred and sixty thousand units sold so far mm-hmm it'd be great if other people could use an Apple watch too i mean it's just ok Google I mean uh Android wear watch too yeah I Apple does what Apple does you know with all the android phones out there we haven't seen any downward pressure on the price of the iphone so i don't think that it the android we're being cross-platform would have any downward pressure on the Apple watch right from moshi sokol is the qualcomm toq dead probably but i feel like that was just like a kind of like a proof of concept for the Mirasol display so the bigger question is Mirasol display dead and i don't think so i think hopefully people start using it pebble can start using it in their next SmartWatch maybe I don't know yeah you could I dat get colors me from Christopher miles what do you think-- Android where's actual smart watch market share is considering the recent report included fitness bands as well yeah a good question i really don't know as I don't know how many samsung is sold and pebble I mean we know pebble just crossed what a million yeah so so Android wear sold fewer than pebble has its 760,000 or whatever it was so I don't know I don't interesting question but hard to say uh and we will make this the last question since it's the last one currently and Todd needs to get ready to head to fox business from Benjamin McDonald do you think the LG G watch will look good with a pebble steel band yeah well I think so i actually just ordered one for the g wash or so oh cool yeah I didn't get the pebble steel band there were two black like I think it was even cheaper like twenty bucks um so I hope so because I'm alright folks well that's going to do it for this week's episode of the TechnoBuffalo show as always we appreciate you joining us you can find this on the itunes store where you can just search on the techni buffalo show them we do appreciate if you rain reviews that does help us out you can also find us on pocket casts you can find us via RSS feed pretty much anywhere that there is podcast you can find us including the stew trip which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere until next week I'm Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of tecta Buffalo I've been joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton not everybody until next week take it easy bye-bye