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and welcome to episode 57 the TechnoBuffalo show online you're two hosts for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton hey everybody how are you doing today Todd I'm good today's mmm the first not so crazy day this week I didn't get a chance to ask you this pre-show what time did you fall asleep last night it's like right away I normally I go to bed like 10 I like I'll go up to my bed at like 10 that all breed for like a half hour or so I was laying in my bed lit by like nine ten yeah after we're goin down for a bit yeah it was a long two days yeah because it started out on Monday with one plus two we were fortunate enough to have two people up in well John was up there with Brandon up in San Francisco for a briefing and then so we were preparing a bunch of stuff here and then they didn't announce the phone until ten o'clock eastern nine o'clock your time yeah actually that's when the press conference started took a while they didn't even really go into the phone for a bit and at the end of the press conference were just ended there was no news on the price there so yet it we had the price but hey let's talk about that for a moment so the oneplus press conference was this virtual reality thing and that started at 10 Eastern and we already had the embargoed materials we were you know we but we were embargoed until 11 eastern which meant we could not publish what we had right so then the press event ends at ten-thirty and we're all sitting there for 30 beds with all the materials were all like hey can we run the news cuz you announced the phone but we're not allowed to say anything about it we had the price but they didn't give the price of like the whole world sort of just sitting there for like a half hour waiting for like this the news to break on the price when everybody was allowed to talk about which is funny but I think they had another event in Asia so my guess was that they were sort of weight for that to like catch up i don't know i think i got a full outer room I don't know it was it was just very odd yes and this thing with the the event um you didn't need virtual reality to watch it but for you know a reporter like us we're trying to cover the event you could turn off the the two windows that would be used in like Google glass or Google cardboard so we had it but then it was panning around and like I can't follow along you know and type at the same time because they're moving around this 3d were or real world in you know first we reality whatever um it was it was very hard to like covers report and then I accidently stopped it and I wanted to restart you had to go went all the way back to the beginning so then I was following along with her or Alive block yeah it was it was a very odd way to do things but you know what and the message I want to send to press to the companies like this is we don't need 15 minutes of you telling us about all the rigors of going through designing and yo the stuff decent oh yeah you know fine we understand you guys want sure that but just like release YouTube videos yeah exactly but so to be clear before we jump into all this the only people that have touched the 1+2 from TechnoBuffalo or Brandon and John Burnet on the show the only people to touch the Moto X pure edition and the Moto G from technobuffalo or yourself and Jacob although the Moto G will be in Jon's hands today right but I for reference I have not touched either of the devices so going into this I will be just I know what everyone else knows i have not good either of the phones right so let's just go in the order of the vents let's start with the 1+2 huh and you know we have a question from such an bahal which really just kind of fires off the whole thing here is the 1+2 what you were expecting I kind of because i think i was going i was thinking like quad HD display but I also knew that they couldn't probably do that for the price you know you gotta keep the price down enough I mean if they came out with like a 700 ollar phone fans would be like what the heck man like this isn't why I'm a 1 plus fan so they couldn't do that so I think yeah besides like that there are other niceties like wireless charging would have been cool NFC I see Sasha and you have the question about that I thought that was a kind of weirdo mission because I don't think it cost much to add but I will get into an abit led the Moto G in front of me and it doesn't have any either um and the reason I think it's weird because I believe android pay and stuff like that they're all going to use NFC payments so like you kind of have this flagship but it's not going to be able to use a flagship feature from google you know if Android Bay is actually widely accepted and stuff like that Google Wallet didn't really take office as much as I wanted to but I guess that's fine those are my comment like concerns with it camera sounds good all that stuff you know it's 13 megapixel 5 megapixel up front that's it's the same megapixels last year I guess the modules change because they're saying it's a really good camera and speaking of cameras motorola put a lot of emphasis on that yesterday too so when we talk about the moto phones will put anybody I like that all these manufacturers of putting cameras front and center and for the most part doing it well except for HTC this year with the one and nine which is kind of a bummer I apologize for the phone call there everyone I was a telemarketer yeah the NFC thing I agree with you Todd yo okay maybe it's not a big deal right now but your average person is buying a phone for a minimum of one year right most people buy phones for two years or even longer NFC is definitely on the way in so the fact that one plus decided not to put the NFC and to me feels like the phone is not future-proofed at all now the same could be said for USB type-c I understand that you know yes they did put that in and you know the Moto X doesn't have that fine but I think NFC is actually the bigger thing right bill yeah and it's weird because I mean we've NFC's been around for a long time right and like some people it's used for pairing speakers and maybe the thing is that people don't like how often do people use it really i use it from time to time mainly for pairing with a speaker but you know people aren't using it and I guess that's what 1 plus told our guys in the meeting up in San Francisco they said you know we would have added if our fans wanted it but apparently they don't want but now that comes down to what you can do with it right now and there's not a whole lot but if Android pay really relies on NFC and here you are with this flagship but it can't use Android pay and you want to like that's that's kind of weird because I feel like if it was another company maybe you'd be like whatever they're selling it to Joe consumer but I feel like Android pay is going to be used by enthusiasts right like my mom's going easy Android pay but I feel like if you're buying a 1 plus phone you're probably an enthusiast and if you're using you know mobile payments you're probably in enthusiasts and so the two seemed to me like they would go together but I agree with you I agree completely it's a very minor thing you know I I'm not saying the oh don't buy the oneplus 2 because it doesn't have NFC right but it is an odd omission in this day but in general I mean the pricing yes the pricing went up but I didn't think it was anything ridiculous by any means yeah i think for pricing scare ya Barry you know what was it for the 64 gigabyte like 389 I think 318 yeah i think it was 389 maybe yeah which does lead me over to the Moto X which you know they said okay it's in which by the way everyone we're talking the Moto X pure addition although be called the Moto X style and the rest of the world that's the most mind-boggling think it makes absolutely no sense but so the Moto X pure edition starts at 399 and you know that's just going to be for 16 gigabytes so you really wonder how much is you know the the 32 and the 64 gonna cost and then yeah then you're gonna customize it with moto maker mm-hmm exactly it's not gonna be it's not that cheap but it's a very nice phone and you know to be fair I haven't played with the 1+2 the only the only reason I'm not like crazy excited about the 1+2 is because i was kinda let down by the 1 plus 1 i've talked about that on the show before I felt like the battery life wasn't that great camera wasn't that great but other people have had really good experiences which makes me wonder like did I get a different camera module you know who knows um now speaking see I'm not that I'm probably not gonna go for one plus two and the simple reason is my battery after about six months it just started getting worse and worse and worse so and yeah it mines in my shoulder bag but it's just I don't know I don't have a whole lot of faith right now in 1 plus and that again everyone I'm speaking for myself personally that that's not a techno Buffalo official yeah yeah we're going to review the phone as it as a brand new phone yeah exactly so I I don't know i just i I'm not that excited but I mean I'm interested in moto x but i'm really concerned about what the prices ok i can't see myself doing less than 32 gigs right i mean it does have expandable storage but you do sort of i mean it's 16 gigs kind of just like four base torch is still not a lot so you know like when I like to install games on well actually this for example as 16 gigs of storage when i install games on it like that's gonna take up a lot of it and yeah you can move the files over to micro SD but still the bulk of that app sitting on them and unless you really phone and do all the tons of other things but getting back to the Moto X that's the phone i'm excited for 399 you get the quad HD display front-facing speakers the 20 megapixel camera which motorola is saying and like again we have to test it ourselves what they're saying is going to be like the best smartphone camera out there i do think the smartest thing they did was giving the dpreview yeah okay these are guys who they do nothing but shoot photography right and you know they do not have a final review of the camera module yet but their initial tests are very promising their samples looked great again these are our professional photographers but they're not messing with yo color tones and all that and editing right you know and they look good yeah they did look good we have them on the site yeah so all those features are exciting to me expandable storage like I said the customization so to me 399 or whatever even with the 16 gigs of storage I would probably go a motorola 1x pure edition I hate adding the pure edition in there so i call it the style or whatever or just called them the moto x 2015 i don't know now they did not have any of the play there correct right yeah so at the event they didn't have the play because they said you know all we have to share at this time is it's not planned for the united states so they didn't have it there for us to play with um unintended I guess 1080p screen so it's a little different I think right get them all mixed up but I do have the Moto G here and I've been using it since the events so I have uh you can see it's kind of like a ribbed plastic green with the orange you get a 13-megapixel camera Motorola says it's the exact same module that was used in the Nexus 6 which you know it's not the best camera on the market but for a device like this that's pretty awesome so under 200 bucks um 16 gigs of storage you can expand it here i'll pop off the bed it's dusty and for those listening to the radio he is showing us the most i sorry for everybody listening on the radio I'm showing into the camera now and you can see I've got micro SD and the sim card slot up top it is a micro sim card slot so not nano and it's a little wet cuz I actually ran it under water earlier today because its IP x7 resistant so I want to test that out it did pretty well the only thing I have on my unit i'm trying to show it to the camera here but it won't work but where the the back cover meets the body it doesn't quite close all the way and they say like you're supposed to move around snap it which I'm doing right now and it is all snapped into place so maybe it's just my unit but it's something you know I don't know if that's gonna let water and it seems like it would but maybe not it seems like it would mean but the thing is if you if you look at the back there's like the battery is not removable everything's under protection here except for the microSD and the nano slant sim card slot but here I'll show the camera there are these rubber gaskets on the back that protect those individually so I don't know that there's anything to get worried about really as long as those are covered right and then they're nano coatings on the micro USB port and the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack and stuff take care of the rest so anyway I'm actually really liking moto G good yeah good at what's at starting price 189 I think that's you know for a Knockaround phone you know if you're an international traveler and you're swapping Sims alot or whatever really can't beat that I know you know yes I i still use my mega 6.3 uh travel to England but you know if I was in the market for a new yo phone to use with a UK cinnamon I'm over there I I would jump on that heartbeat yeah check it out and the thing is um it's a Snapdragon 415 processor I think versus the the style the Moto appear as an 808 um and it's been snappy for me real snappy and I actually loaded up vainglory which is just awesome game I've been playing I don't know if anybody remembers it but it was introduced when Apple was talking about metal for iOS it's a 3 verse 3 multiplayer game very fun so I loaded it up on here but I haven't had a chance to play it because it's big install so I'll report on that but if it can handle the Snapdragon 415 you can handle that it and this is pretty solid device for the price yeah I agree I agree it's been interesting and then of course also this week we had the announcement of a samsung event which to be clear we do not know for sure what is being an ass at the samsung event however you don't have to be a psychic to figure out it's the note 5 right and the galaxy s6 edge+ thank you I can't wear it with I don't I have the hardest time remembering that one for some reason the excess 6 edge spectacular I who knows but yeah it doesn't take a genius you know to figure out that's what we're going to see on August thirteenth in New York City yep which goes back to what we were saying I believe it was last week about how the companies seem to be moving away from Aoife and the big trade shows in mind to do their own events instead you know the note announcements have been a staple of Aoife for the past four years yeah so this is really interesting to see it is definitely moving out to its own a bit we think yeah right but and like we talked about I think it was last week that you know the rumor is Samsung's trying to get these out on the market ahead of the iphone 6s and iPhone 6s plus and all that stuff but while we're talking about all these new phones i think the release date for the Moto X pure edition style of September is dangerous for motorola because you know we're excited about it yeah but then the note fives coming the new iPhones everybody's can be talking about these devices and I get it the price points totally different for people that understand that like that mmm that's where the markets going we're going to be buying these phones probably out of parking pop-up park it pocket or with these like you know these prepaid plans from from t-mobile or whatever installment plans is what I mean which motorola offers also but the point is i think even though the price is right there these flagships are coming and i think that's kind of dangerous so we'll see no I totally agree with you I also asked them yesterday about the Moto e because that's sort of the lower the lowest Edmodo and I was like is that dead like what what are you guys doing with that and they don't usually refresh it at the same time they said it's like selling like crazy I think last month was the best month of sales for the Moto e in the u.s. they said unlike unlike cricket I guess or like all these prepaid kind of brands okay oh yeah I thought that was interesting sorry i went on a real big tangent no no it's totally no I I was curious actually why the Moto e wasn't mentioned but it's interesting to know that it is still in play right yeah and so what I meant by that was I guess motorola sales have been really good anyway so they're not too worried about these competitors and they were saying like there was one journalist there was just nailing the guy I was at a round table was nailing a guy with these questions about like Samsung does the samsung does that and the guy was sort of like look like we're not even really trying to go after Samson like that's not the point here and I get that because you know the galaxy s6 is like a 700 honor I have to look at the off contract prices but it's not 400 bucks and so that's Motorola's point that while it offers these awesome features it's not that it's right and I think that it may be you know that is something we need to look at especially with the pure edition is that these are not the people that buy moto phones and that's not this is not saying that they're bad but they're not typically your iphone buyers they're not typically your note 5 buyers right just you I I can see why CM someone to move the note 5 away from the iphones I I get that especially now with the the plus you know series of iphones right but yeah I can see what Motorola saying they're not really they've never set the x series up as let's go after the big boys yeah right i agree i think their focus on customization and personalization and still really great phones but they're also not like you know you've never seen this before I mean ya moto maker and stuff like that but I mean like they're not like check out this S Pen that's done something we've never seen on a mobile device before or you know Samsung with the quad HD Super AMOLED displays when they renew and stuff like that and then you have you know Apple it sort of its own thing I mean I don't want to get into the argument of what they've done first and what they haven't done first but whatever but their flagship premium expensive phones and that's not where Motorola's going at least not with the expensive part right right exactly so it's been an interesting week it's going to be a couple interesting months as these phones roll out now the Moto G is available now correct yep yep you can order it now online you can customize it you can buy the shelves you can buy all kinds of stuff so the customization comes down to and I'm showing the camera just that metal area around the camera and then the shell like you could pick your color but it's not permanent like I was showing earlier you pop it off by another one I think they're 15 bucks each so gotcha so it's gonna be an interesting time we're going into I this is I never thought we would see where the holiday season became an important phone buying season but it has yes or no especially depending on contracts to as contracts are sort of going away at least as these you know early upgrade programs come where t-mobile at you upgrade like what like three times a year if you're on those or if you're just buying off contract phones and yeah this right now is sort of a hot new season coming up well we've got a couple questions coming in here about the phones in general most of them from such a ball ah let's see here speaking from such Mahal could NFC and or wireless charging could be added in a swappable cover for the 1+2 they actually address that and no wireless charging well you possible if you buy one of those kits on Amazon where you plug to the bottom and then you run yes I am sorry yes you are correct wireless charging but they said NFC could not be yeah it seems like that would be sure oh I I want to comment on a story that I just saw the tweet go out so I know the post is now live about the xperia c 5 ultra leak oh yeah that was the best week ever that improves for those of you that have not seen the story we just ran a story about a picture of the Xperia z5 ultra was leaked and since it's your department Todd would you like to share with everybody where the source of this leak came from yeah so it came from Brazil the police busted a guy during a raid and I don't think they talked about what kind of rate it was you know sounds like you electronic read and they find this phone and then they published the pictures of the phone and that's how I got leaked it's like not your typical leak we're like some guy publishes images these are the police publishing I guess he's not how the story goes they need someone maybe someone somewhere just made it all up uh-uh that let's just crack me up so much I was a police picture yeah that's great um no it was unlike nevermind what if it was in the middle of a crime scene what do we do we just don't report like what if the guy on a bag of drugs I'm so hot Raja and I know he asked us last week so I and we didn't have time to get to it last week so I get to it this week what are our current daily drivers mm-hmm look what are your it folks you got to remember something we swap phones yeah i use the iphone 6 plus as my dealer I gotta be honest though I've been on I have iOS 9 the latest public beta on it and I it's running slow i've been using android more is like my go-to device and so that was either the galaxy s6 or right now i'm just using the Moto G because i'm testing but i really liked emoji I don't know well I'm in an odd document right now phones so at my iphone 6 plus which is in an otterbox case that's why it looks so gigantic then I have my 1 plus which right now is having battery issues so i swapped the sim card out that this is normally my daily driver for android so right now my sim card is currently in an LG g3 and i wanted to see if reisen would work in my house because other carriers don't and oddly enough verizon did work in my house so I'm also currently using a loaner droid turbo uh but if I was to say just to daily drivers it's the iphone and the oneplus when the battery decides to work I'd probably say minor the s6 in the iphone 6 plus and like i said i'm sort of leaning towards android these days i don't know i didn't see myself like making this huge switch because like i said like i I'm vested in both systems I have you know the Apple play music subscription that I probably plan on keeping i'm not sure why my apps that i paid for on iOS and then on android androids where I buy my movies where I have my books where I have google play music spotify also i don't know it's just an gmail my calendar and everything I mean I know I can do it on the iphone too but for mail and calendar and stuff like that just seems to me to work better than hangouts which is what we use for work so it just helps better on a droid speaking of Android let's jump back to the 1+2 for a second what are your feelings on about the move to oxygen OS yeah well it sounded like they had like a little fall hour maybe a bigger fallout with cyanogenmod and using that i haven't used oxygen OS honestly and i know that i could install i guess the other version of it online i don't know i think it's fine just like keep going what they're going i think that the the main thing is that they promised frequent and speedy updates and it sounds like that's going to happen more without using cyanogenmod were they i guess they were felt sort of tied down with cyanogenmod to get those updates so now that they're using their own home built stuff they can just push it out quicker which is the same message that Motorola's trying to stay to like we're just you know it's pure addition we're gonna get everything out quick and there's no carriers yeah I just I don't know I my only concern about oxygen OS is that it is a yet another fork of Android which seems to be happening constantly mm-hmm and I'm just I'm worried about compatibility and again folks I have not used oxygen OS I keep wanting to call it color for some meats you color OS what was that that's another one that out there so yeah I keep wanting to call it color but no its auction Papa I don't remember I don't remember but it just it concerns me about it being a fork yo and they're being possible incompatibility issues so I'm just I'm not real excited about moving to yet another fork of Android and that's part of the reason the Moto X pure edition which is such an awkward name it's saying I know is probably the reason the Moto X PE or just on up here oh that would made more sense but yeah the Moto X pure is more appealing to me simply because its base Android with some motor oil enhancements which are done via app but that appeals to me more than going off and using oxygen OS yeah I don't just see me though oxygen seems cool it's very gesture-based and stuff like they've done in the past and they have the swype keyboard pre-loaded which is you know good or bad whatever Samsung has swype keyboard souza anyway uh from Abdul Wahab when I apologize if I mispronounced your last name I am in Pakistan and I can buy the Moto G second gin but not the Moto G third gen so should i buy it or look at something else i would say more unlikely wait and see if the third gen is coming they didn't specifically mention pakistan but they did mention india so it makes sense to me that it's out in that area and please i'll be clear I understand pack stand in the are two separate countries but that's a global launch yeah I i think i would wait just a little bit i mean if you even got your heart set on moto g i think i would wait just a little bit and see if the 3rd gen is is coming to pakistan as would I because I know Motorola's pushing into as many markets as possible with the Moto G for example in Brazil is the number one selling smartphone it has been so I would try to wait for it second gentleman's great too we really like that but you know if you can get the 3rd gen why not um since this is the most upvoted question right now from dis hunt boody do you like pie I do how can you not like pie yeah who doesn't like fun um and now I know what I'm wondering for lunch lunch oh I can order anything I could I could find i'll probably get buffalo wings with a side of pie or something that's cool thing about living around New York City you can get whatever you want I that that was always my favorite part of going there for toy fair you know all the menus that would get shoved under my hotel room door I am I ordered so much food delivered now we have seamless and so I could like hundreds of restaurants it's crazy yeah yeah did I ever tell you about the time the one time I tried using online food ordering in Manchester no I the I can't even remember the name of the site now but it's not one we have over here and it was a horrible storm that night I was just like fine I'll order something in and so I ordered from a italian place in the site crashed i was like oh okay well I'll try again so at that point I changed my mind and decided to order Chinese what I did not know was the Italian ordered gone through they both show up at the exact same moment in the lobby I like look I'm not I'm not going to you know screw either one of you out it was my nose a problem with the site i'll work it out with them so end up by to take out orders that been delivered for me then I discovered a new style of food that night they called chaa talion Italian there yeah I ages a little bit from both meals that's just you know what I've had this is crazy I've had the you know online ordering order something and then like literally half hour 45 minutes later same delivery guy comes back with the exact same items and I didn't order it twice and this year this happened and I was like what the heck like do I that I told the guy I'm like you were just here you already delivered it so he took it back because I didn't want to like charge the restaurant you know they made this food so they throw it out now weird though is like Groundhog Day or something it just keeps coming back yeah it's like literally I just finished eating that is very good Oh from such Mahal hey Todd have you updated your computers to Windows 10 so I'm working with Microsoft and that they sent me the surface pro 3 year so it has yes Windows 10 on it and i've been using it and i plan to do some coverage may give me some tips and tricks and stuff like that I don't want to review it yet because I feel like it's you know it's an operating system you I play with this and i also really want to review like windows hello where they do the iris scanning and stuff like that so we'll probably do a lot of that out in the office once those actually there are a couple computers who already have windows glow support so we'll probably want to do it there but yeah I'm playing with it here and I also have it on my netbook um like still call the netbook it's the x 205 that i bought for like 140 bucks if you've been listening to show like six months ago and it doesn't run well on that so think about upgrading before you put it on something it's an atom based machine uh from spencer win any news on 1 plus light no we have not heard anything on it yeah and my guess is it doesn't exist i don't know maybe it does but at 329 for the low end right not what it starts that I believe so remember no am i mixing up all these funds i don't know there's four phones in two days from sahaja why do you think motorola didn't have a new Moto 360 I think they do have a new Moto 360 I think they just decide to announce it at another time yeah I think so too and you know good because otherwise there is gonna be a bunch of stuff I was wondering about the droids yesterday to the rumors of the new you know droid Maxx or droid mini coming and but usually verizon likes to hold that event and then they'll say our friends from Motorola r here you know yeah so I bet that's coming soon and then you know I don't know about the the 360 like when it would happen if marolla's gonna do its own thing maybe it'll do something with google I don't know ok I am going to butcher this name I'm apologizing before I even attempt it I can't even try i say shop so I i apologize i I don't ever want to disrespect somebody's name I would believe me as someone who has gone through the life at the last name ani have heard every possible pronunciation on Oh on moon Mooney my father when they you know they had a restaurant they SEO can we have your party's name he just does Keith now he's just like I don't even try that's like my stepfather uses Anderson because his name is long and hard well uh anyway the question is there is there any software image stabilization in the Moto X style or the question I don't know that's a good question I don't think I saw it in the specs but i'm sure there's there's image stabilization because i think most phones try to do what they can and post processing right well actually let me look at this piece I'm afraid to touch my keyboard folks cuz eight years ago or not years ago a couple weeks ago I accidentally hit my keyboard and stop the recording yeah let me we run over there real quick because the the specs for the camera were pretty detailed oh yeah so let me jump over there real quick it has hardware who is us no let me jump in you can't claim you're the best on the market without oh I asked with the camera well if the specs would load that would help immensely there they are ok so let's see here a aperture quick capture tap anywhere to capture ring flash there's nothing about image stabilization and slow wow that's a big claim then without to say you're the best and you're going against s6 iphone well iPhone 6 has a great camera no I asked what the six bus has it and the specs they get lists do cover some softwares items like slow motion video burst mode auto HDR panorama drag to focus on exposure so yeah there is no image stabilization mentioned now I will say this this drives me nuts so I'm the one that's responsible for putting the product pages up on technobuffalo so when we get the spec sheets I go in and fill them out now yesterday the Moto G spec page did not list what technology was used for the screen ok fine the Moto X pure editions page did list the technology for the screen but decided not to share with us what sensors were on the phone now our rule is you can assume it's going to have accelerometer ambient light proximity but my feeling is I do not list those on a product page until I have a hundred percent confirmation because we have seen some that did not have ambient light yeah but folks come on and give us the specs you you saw I love is when we call the companies and we go hey can you tell me Oh what are the sensors on the such-and-such oh I don't have that information yeah cuz they don't have had their it's like somewhere it's like in engineering are my favorite answer I won't say what company this was I buy you were the one helping me with it it was the day before an event and they'd given us a spec sheet like a week prior mm-hmm and up to the day before the event they were going oh we don't know that yet oh yeah malarkey mallorca you built the phone you know what's in it yeah oh good grief anyway from Shanghai Austin Are you disappointed at the Moto X style / pure edition does not have a fingerprint scanner no I don't care now I'm not it's it's nice i'm like the galaxy s6 and stuff but all the time I end up typing my my code anyway the only the reason i really like it on apple on the iphone is uh for payment it's like in the app store and stuff like that and so if i can't use it for that that I'm like man I mean just for opening and closing my phone I really care now for Windows 10 for phones the talk of Windows hello and the iris scanning stuff that's cool I just look at the phone I'll see how nerds I'd like NFC I has a lot of uses fingerprint scanners honestly to me are pretty much a gimmick at this point but but that may just be me from saha Raja why do you think the Moto X play is not coming to the US I think it's just it doesn't fit in which they need here yeah I think they're trying to do moto g Moto X pure edition style whatever you know at 399 and then you know the two hundred dollars starting point and then you customize it up and that sort of kind of fits in the middle but I bet they probably want to push sales of those two phones instead of that but I don't know from coot con uh Sean any updates about the pebble time yes actually I had an issue the other day I had not told you about that she had Todd my screen went completely black and every once while I would push the buttons I could see it was trying to draw but it couldn't so I ended up having to reboot it and it came back fine after that but I still have no idea why in the heck it went all black other than that it's been great I think the battery life is not what they had hoped I have to throw it on the charger about every four days hey that's that's not horrible but it's not the seven days they said now that being said I get more notifications than the normal human being so you never know I ain't like when my security cameras you know spot the cats in the warehouse at night I get an alert so yea yea Lord well we're going to have to close up your pretty quickly i'm just going to randomly slide through here and choose one more question and i do mean random let's see here to do from such a ball which one is worth getting Moto X style AKA pure edition or the 1+2 and why it really it comes it's going to come down to what you want do you want pure Google then you want them moto X pure addition if you don't want pure Google then the 1+2 comes into its a John asked me the same jon rettinger the owner the company asked me the same question yesterday yo goes which would you choose and I had to sit there and think about firm it there's a lot of pros and cons to both yeah I agree first time I would go and i'm not i don't think i'm gonna buy either one but i would go moto x that's the way i ended up finally leaning when I was talking to jon was the Moto X yeah I don't know for some reason I I'm on this kick these days where I like the water is just two devices maybe because it's summer and I can take you to the pool and stuff right um from Shah again uh because it's just an interesting question is the micro SD card slot on the Moto X style an optional extra through moto maker or standard on all versions standard on all versions anytime you have a feature like that you're talking about a massive retooling yeah and I I won't go complete geek on all of you there was a story a long time no with them the motorola xoom about why ahead extra port and i wrote a big article about body non-lte version of the zoom had this port still it all comes down to when you make something like this you have to build a mold molds are extremely expensive to buy so you don't ever wanted to have more molds than you absolutely need so if they're going to give you microsd support on one phone they're going to give it to you on all phones yeah so then you're also manufacturing that I mean what if what if everybody buys the model without the micro SD card slot not that that would happen and then all of a sudden you're sitting on a bunch of phones did it that have it yeah so no it's gonna be standard well that is going to bring this week's episode to a close as always we appreciate you joining us you can find the TechnoBuffalo show on the itunes store by searching for the TechnoBuffalo show and we do 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