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and welcome to episode 64 the TechnoBuffalo show I'm on your to host for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site i'm joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton hey everybody how are you doing today Todd I'm good apologies to everyone we tried doing episode 64 once before and things went horribly wrong that was two weeks ago and then I was in irvine last week so now we're back with the Real 64 we're back we're back but lots happened since we are last year and specifically I would like to discuss Microsoft who for once i SAT there during a presentation going wait what's going on here I'm actually interested in what they're talking about I know that was a really interesting press conference um I was there with Jacob in New York City Jacobs one of our writers on the site we were uh you know we went to the event expecting surface pro 4 and that was unveiled and I'm excited for her because it has a new keyboard and you know me I've used the surface pro 3 and I want to throw that thing out the window because I can't stand the keyboard it's not the tablet itself right it's just a keyboard yeah the keyboard has been killing he's like I can't use this thing so anyway I haven't used it that much yet but i was able to poke around on at the event i liked it i thought it was good but anyway I'm getting ahead of myself so we thought we were just going to see that and the Lumia 950 950 XL which were introduced but then Microsoft surprised us with this surface book its first laptop and built from the ground up it said it wants us to be like you know the laptop of all laptops it's going specifically after apple metal body screen pops off it's really cool you hold like a one of the buttons on the keyboards an electronic and it just sort of unlocks itself really nice really premium and of course comes with the premium price of 1,500 bucks but that was the big surprise we were like whoa what is this thing I didn't see this coming so now I had one big question just since I was only watching on the live feed so when they showed it closed it looked like at the hinge there was a gap yeah there is that concerns me that oh yeah because I mean imagine that's in your bag and like you've got loose pins or something yeah and a pin could slip in there and potentially scratch the screen or do some other damage I that overall I was very very impressed with it but that gap does concern me I'm wondering about that too I wish I'd asked about that and I didn't but it does look weird and I think one of the things we're all used to with laptops you know as you get especially when they're getting smaller and more powerful it's like a super compact package and you're like wow that's awesome looking because it kind of comes into this lab and then this is sort of like a slump sort of slightly open so I don't know something about like an OCD thing and meet it's like Oh closed all the way you know yeah it's a nice computer especially for people who I mean there are great Windows 10 laptops out there obviously already but a lot of them were sort of Windows 8.1 upgrade to Windows 10 and now we're getting even just since Microsoft's event lenovo acer sues dell HP have all announced their new laptops and i haven't seen them yet but I'm sure there's going to be some you know right up that alley of the of the surface book but Microsoft's goal and it sounded like I think they a sous was a little upset with them or maybe it was easier but I think was a sous that you know Microsoft sort of went on its own didn't even tell its partners its hardware partners it's building this like laptop tablet hybrid which is Sue's has been known for you know and yeah I know but you can see where manufacturers would be a little upset and I think it's the same thing that happened with microsoft and windows phone when they bought nokia and sort and even before they bought no key and they sort of just gave you know they seem to have supported nokia far beyond other other OEMs and now it's what's happened most people aren't making windows yeah this is so but i will say the the continuum feature on the Windows Phone was fascinating to watch I'll be interested to see how it does in a real world environment of course right but you know the idea of just connecting it to that little hub and then having a full-size keyboard in full size malice in full size monitor all running from your phone is truly fascinate yeah that was awesome um the only thing that bothers me about the phones and her and everything going forward right now is the microsoft hasn't provided release date information hasn't said you know where we're going to be able to buy these things it's just like it's very weird and we know Windows 10 for phones isn't really quite finished because it's still what beta on to have a phone around here running it but it's still in beta so it's just kind of weird it didn't feel like they were ready to go with that and obviously the app situation is the biggest problem facing them and will continue to be whether there's continuum or not but Microsoft I think we've talked about this before the past their goal here is okay design an app for Windows 10 you know it scales down it can easily be rewritten for Windows 10 for mobile using that continuum feature even and that's how their photos app for example runs that's how their their office apps run it's the same app running on the phone and all of a sudden ones full screen it looks like a full windows happen so that's that's both the compelling instance of Windows 10 is this continuum feature we get the pc and the mobile but it's also one of the things that's been hurting windows forever is that there's not enough apps and let alone absent do that but just you know apps in general and on stage microsoft said what facebook's coming like okay so that means probably instagram to which has been in baner forever but there's a lot more than needs to be delivered right right now I overall and I don't mean this as a slam on Microsoft I definitely under the bomber administration there there wasn't a whole lot of innovation going on there wasn't a whole lot of excitement going on that was the most excited I've been by a microsoft event in ages yeah they had my attention I was very interested in continuing I was very interested in the laptop despite its funky hinge it the surface pro 4 looked fantastic you know overall it was a very it was very not Microsoft yeah I think I was disappointed though in hololens which has excited us before Microsoft and I think and then they were like oh $3,000 like did anybody see that Christ Ellen I doubt that's intolerable that is the developer kit which I'm sure includes extra hardware it's all so early I don't think that's what consumer pricing will be you know I I hope not otherwise the hololens will exist as a lovely dream for many people yeah but uh I honestly with hot I mean at least we finally got a step in the right direction with hololens and that it is going out to developers so perhaps we're finally moving towards the release I I don't want to watch vaporware for another couple years right yo not not that Microsoft has ever done that to us before yes they have hey but now overall it was a very very interesting event I'm excited for the future windows I still say you know of course the biggest thing is the app store they but they do seem to be working on that and trying to move forward but did they say what the price was going to be for that little additional hub for the phone think it's a hundred bucks which I think that should be bundled in I mean come on yeah it's like one of the highlight features and people need to pay an additional hundred dollars on top like just get it out there get people in press with your phones and then sell it yeah there should at least be a bundle option for like the first two months or something yeah because I that that is a a flagship feature yeah certainly know the idea being able to take my because a lot of the guys have at the office they put their macbooks and you know holders and not right run you know everything off of that you know the idea of being able to slip my computer in my pocket yeah to take it from home to work as an amazing concept yeah that would be amazing I mean you say out in irvine or whatever you just keep the hub in your backpack noun irvine or you know your office wherever that is for other people you know you have your keyboard mouse and a monitor and that's all you need right you could just travel everywhere with your phone that to me is super compelling and I hope that this is where ever you want is going i hope it's where android goes I mean it can't be that hard at this point for for Google to throw a version of Chrome OS on to some partition on Android device right yeah I mean it's the same processors and so I mean it's not the same but you're looking at similar processors unless you looking at the core i5 or core i3 Chromebooks but those are sort of a different league but I mean it's possible and I think we could see it with intel processors to with with the windows machines so I don't know and I think Apple has has so far given no indication of going in that direction aside from multi-view windows but it's it's it's where we should be going I think that's the future of personal computing and I think it's where other technologies I mean you move on to was trying it to ya know I definitely agree Thea I I think this is something everyone's gonna have to start to look at because you know a lot of people are like oh well I don't want to carry you know devices that only has one use you look at a laptop yeah and it does primarily have one use yes you can watch netflix on it or you can do work or you can surf the web or whatever all things you can also do from your phone right you know so the idea of being able to do that you know plug every phone should be looking at this I completely agree with you this is definitely something that needs to be looked at the other topic we wanted to jump to it and of course will take Microsoft questions during the Q&A session was the new apple accessories you know for a company that prides himself on design why are they still holding on to the magic mouse yeah I I'm like you we talked about this the other day I've never liked the magic mouse I never liked I have never met anyone that likes the magic mouse and here's a new one that looks exactly the same but it has forged average rate is forced touching the magic mouse or just a new trackpad hey here I i'm using a mac yeah you can see microsoft mouse is steelseries mouse over here yeah and i'm using a microsoft keyboard see i have a part of this keyboard I'll give them that and I don't even know why I bought it right actually i'll tell you i bought it everybody up on the TechnoBuffalo staff when we have skype calls and stuff for other meetings i used to use mechanical keyboards which I love but they're so darn loud that i swished something quieter and i figured you know what i'm used to typing on the macbook all the time this is as close as I'm gonna get besides you know learning another quiet keyword stuff that's right right now I will say I when the original magic trackpad was first announced I thought oh my god yeah who's gonna buy this then I walked into an app store and tried one and i love it i think it's a great device it actually does have a lot of uses cap1 why i actually really like it but that being said 129 dollars is a ridiculous price yeah all these i don't feel it needed to be bigger i'm sorry i don't care what they say because I mean I only have so much real estate on my desk yeah you know and I actually wear it since i have no more room period so i just now i will say this if you buy a new mac you can throw it on for fifty dollars that's not horrible that I could live with but going out and buying one outright for 129 dollars is insane right now since you do use the wireless keyboard way you think about the new wireless keyboard with rechargeable yeah that's nice because this one actually has two through batteries so far and the design well it looks nice and i feel like i'm really bored right now but a you know you unscrew the side here you pop in the batteries and i feel like it could have been done better it's really clunky this mechanism I like the lightning charging that seems pretty cool month of battery life I if I didn't already own this I'd probably buy that but at this point you know yeah of course yeah next time you're in the market for a keyboard right Mike yeah I I do like the fact that it's finally rechargeable it'd be nice if the magic trackpad was also rechargeable because I i do use apple rechargeable batteries in it but still it's it'd be nice if it itself was rechargeable is it not the new ones not I don't think so I mean I'm not going to swear to that though I thought they were all lightning supported with lightning I don't know I also think it looks like it had better spacing and better keys and they did say that they worked on the key design so it looks a bit more like what we've seen on macbooks and as for the magic trackpad with force touch it's a feature I haven't used on my back for anything actually so it's cool it works you know I don't use safari use Chrome and Safari sort of the highlight feature for that I use Apple maps and that's another place where I could use force touch so I wouldn't upgrade to that for that reason either like that the two you know main reasons it seems like is the thirty percent increase surface area and force touch right yeah like okay yeah but I guess at some point you have to sort of revision your products and get new ones out there so maybe that's all this reason Franco just made an interesting comment about still no backlight on the keyboard yeah honestly it's just thinking about that I always turn the backlight off on my macbook because I'm like I nope don't need to use that much battery and yeah I if I'm plugged in i might turn the backlight back on but i really don't find it that you so I'm not often in a dark room typing you on the other hand you are you're at events yeah I guess I always have minor yeah but see I don't because I live in the middle of nowhere I don't go to a lot of it so I don't have a whole lot of need for the backlight right but would that be a feature you would want on the keyboard I think so yeah I was actually just thinking about that when I picked it up if I could have it on my dad on this keyboard I probably were going back late too and I don't know what it is maybe it's just aesthetics like I don't look down while I'm typing or anything but yeah I on having more like typing I I don't think any of us looked at when we wrapping okay I we just had keys and then we hold up like words that's right so we've got like questions coming in so we're going to jump into some of those of course the most important question let me find it here it's scrolled away from here Sean the man 34 I'm back got to ask the question what have you returned Todd oh man nothing yet I think I'd bought something I have the Amazon echo we've talked about that I actually know what I probably would have returned the 6s plus if I had any gumption to do so agent you can read my review but I don't feel I bought it your full price and I feel like it wasn't worth that much money for an upgrade over my 6 plus but I ended up giving a 6 plus to my wife so it worked out so yeah just like I i ended up fine I what we won't go into why it happened I ended up buying an ipad air 2 but yeah so my mother is getting my ipad air you know so that I was like okay she was still using ipad 3 I was like okay we can finally get rid of all the 30 pin connectors except for charging my ipod classic right but but otherwise the 30 pins are out of her lives and her ipad 3 was definitely slowing down so I was like I'm fine and I'm I'm my battery life on the air was starting to get a little wonky and so this time yeah it was time John convince me I'm gonna sell my Nexus 5 and my one plus one just through amazon yeah sitting in my desk yeah and we okay so funny story about Amazon trade-in so I'm going to trade in my one plus one as well we're getting really good price for it yeah so 130 bucks while I was out there I got opportunity by a nexus 6 off Nibin our intern he only used it for a few months it's in great shape you know I was thrilled and I I wanted a new phone for when I traveled to the to England so I was like okay yo let's see can I how much can I get from a mega 6.3 I was like I'll get nothing for it boom and so I go on amazigh get all excited at first because it looks like I'm going to get over two hundred dollars I'm like hold the phone okay this is fantastic then when I got home I was like okay I went found the box I was already I went back I was like oh wait a minute that's two hundred dollars for the white version okay so I found the black version twelve dollars and sixty-three cents what what wait what they will give you over two hundred dollars for the lite version paint it you must have talked to my mother because she said the same thing but yeah they will they'll only give me twelve dollars and sixty-three cents for the black version that's obscene that is crazy yeah I for twelve dollars and sixty-three cents I'll just hold on to it as a backup phone right exactly are you two hundred dollars I this thing would have already been out the door but they'll almost have a limited run or something I've it maybe I don't know gazelle will give me 90 wait which I'm a little I'm of that that's a little tempting and actually folks we plan on doing towards the holidays because that's always a good time to trade in your stuff we're actually going to do a whole episode about cycling your electronics and training them in and all that so look forward to that see they're going to be really interesting or really boring it just depends but so we got a lot of other questions coming here from such in Baja are any of you using Apple music or do you guys use a different streaming service for music well personally I did sign up for Apple music and turned off the automatic billing too late so I paid for a month but generally i use pandora i like the music discovery on it a lot and so it's just always been my streaming service of choice Todd I believe your Spotify I have spotify I use Apple music i use google play music and i pay for all of them I don't know why and well it's really a comes down to different devices i'm on I'd say Spotify because you know it's across Android stuff and then Apple music I've actually grown to like a bit for discovery google play already Google play's my android and I like Google Play on android TV and then I've just started using Amazon Prime music because I have the Alexa here and she just plays it you know if I say like play this well we can give you that one because it's included in posits included but those are the ones like I know I gotta cancel i'll probably cancel google play music it's kind of just I mean Spotify I think does a better job don't eat that and it gets cross platform and then I really do like Apple music though for some things that's so that's a lot of music subscriptions yeah don't tell my wife yeah that was my next step I was going to call her later yeah what you mean she doesn't listen to check my Buffalo show yeah no she does not oh god no but now that she has this 6 plus here's where things get interesting Apple's family plans 1499 as cheaper and Spotify family playing some maybe I switch just to that that's true the thing that I I on the site when Apple music came out I still stand by this Spotify was great for sharing music with friends my friends you know we'll send me a song and I'll come in my inbox and I get to play it that's brilliant and shared playlists and stuff like that and that's not an apple music so be hard to give that up that I don't know I I don't listen to me I listen to a lot more podcasts and listen to music anymore so I'm like yeah it's all free uh let's see from Sean the man 34 with Microsoft making a SmartWatch tablet laptop and virtual reality do you think we will see a Microsoft TV box product I assume he means streaming set-top box honestly I think Microsoft looks at the xbox one is that I think so too that's all I was going to say I don't see a standalone box now I don't either I just I I can't see them why you doing is it's a couple hundred bucks I mean what is it four hundred bucks now but you know they come out with a box maybe that's like 150 they're probably going to say like look you know why make all these sacrifices to get down 150 bucks and you can have sort of what they envisioned as the the center of your home I think then rather used by the xbox one yeah exactly so i I just I can't see them doing a set-top box it would be interesting but I just I I think they're just guys I want to keep you on the xbox one for as long as possible ah let's see here from such an bahal is the chromecast Audio with the Nexus Q is supposed to be well if anyone actually understood what the Nexus Q was supposed to be then we can give you a final answer then we could give you a final answer as you all can see in the techni Buffalo videos that are shot out in irvine at least when John's on the couch set you can see the Nexus Q up on the shelf we keep it as like a mo a memento of we really still don't understand this thing what was that babe honestly I believe it was developed by Google's track and field team because have you ever picked it up yeah yeah i mean i remember when it was announced and everything it's just sort of funny that thing is freakin heavy yeah it's huge yeah I I don't know I honestly I don't think anyone fully understands what the Nexus Q was supposed to be so who knows if the chromecast Audio is actually a replacement Fort ya know that was one of the oddest things ever released I like that the chromecast Audio is so affordable though I don't the Nexus Q is expensive I remember correctly yeah who knows chromecast Audio is like 35 bucks I need a from brazen Franco is trackpad the trackpad is amazing especially in multi monitor configurations but why the increase in price of the return of the white color the aluminum brush finish was so much better looking I agree i love the the brush aluminum look it looks like the majority of their other products why they decide what flight i have no idea i will say that's a lot of the reason i use the trackpad is i'm running three monitors yeah what does it have like a really good DP i guess or high that's why i use a gaming mouse yeah oh did i tell you about my third monitor when i was out in irvine LA so I told the guys before I went out there that I needed you know extra meters which they they we always have spare monitors laying around right and so one of the monitors I used to use we ended up having to return to the manufacturer because our review period was over so they had a little tiny HP for me and when i get there i go into yo on the weekend get my stuff that i leave there in the office when i'm not in town and there is a 42 inch curved LG television so my desk at alike ok i'm assuming this is my second monitor you know one of my two monitors it sure enough that was all they had so so to my right I had a 42 inch curved LG television as a monitor which actually I was like oh this is so stupid that was that's always the morrow driver and tweet that Colin going on 42 inches but then I discovered the wonders of it when I had to edit a photo shop photo oh that would be frustrating though you can't see all the imperfections it was so much easier oh I loved it I was like I'm going to have to fight the urge by a pretty 2 inch television for my death well you can see right behind me I have a 32-inch right here and I've used it as a monitor I did for a while as my primary and now i just have it hooked up to nothing it's sort of like i'll put a chromecast and every now and then because it was just getting too big yeah like well when we have big event days I do i do have a 42 inch Roku television near my office and so all Apple all screencast over to that for to the apple TV and so then that way i can run chart beat or whatever over on that monitor right so i go to four monitors on a first world problems folks first yeah oops i can say actually I saw the the question from Sean the man 34 do we play the battles on beta I did right here I did not get a chance comes out in irvine ah it was awesome i loved it yeah i did i ever did that day too yeah I uh I know the guys in the office that had time to play it enjoyed it I unfortunately I was traveling so I really didn't get a chance to play it what I saw of it is I walked by the game room look great but uh no Joey was talking to me about this morning and he was saying that actually a lot of people seem mixed on it that there's a lot of disappointment out there Oh interesting I hadn't read up on other people's opinions I just sort of playing it and was a home I like it well apparently a lot of people had problems with the Hoff battle yeah that would I mean I was assuming they're gonna fix that but it was so unbalanced yeah and they're sailing are going to to balance it more oh wow yeah it was hilariously not yeah if you run the Ripper those that don't know if you play it on the side of the rebels although I mean I have to say if you all seen the movie right yeah yeah this should not exactly be an easy fight right out for the rebels but uh okay let's see here from such and bahal hey Sean I know that Todd would rather buy the nexus 5x over the Nexus 6p funny you should bring that up but which would you choose and why I have the page open i was just talking shut up buying it before the show right before the show Todd was say her go Oh should I get if I pakshe get 6p yeah well I'm still I'm still bullish on the five accidents I mean for pricing and then the camera is still great and all that that's why I think the 5x is better by bit yeah I mean if I had just bought the Nexus 6 off of NIV and I I might be tempted by the 6p but I still either way the whole thing for me is a lot of times my now that I'm a t-mobile customer i want the Wi-Fi calling because I get no signal in my house so I have to buy t-mobile branded phones because for whatever reason they can't add Wi-Fi calling to a phone that you didn't buy from them as you can see I really believe this so unfortunately I'm kind of stuck yeah but I never gave me a great price on this nexus 6 so I'm like whoo hoo I can use it with my three account which by the way i had my first experience with cutting down a sim card yes slightly nerve-racking I imagine I wouldn't have never gone that way I think he went from you go from microcenter nano SIM from micro dinnae know I've only gone up with adapters or and a lot of phones um well not to leave the same so I feel like if you if I had the I think the g4 might still be micro sim in any case you could put the Nano in and as long as you kind of finagle it right and get it just right it takes like five tries dollars yeah well the the mega 6.3 was micro and that's why i picked up a micro sim from three when i bought it and so we I cut down I got adapters and all that stuff now I'm just like a butt yo your eye like checked it three times two HR okay it's perfectly lined up here goes nothing here goes nothing because it will be nothing if it doesn't work oh good goodness gracious from Shaun the man 34 any word on the new Apple TV pre-ordered date not yet no I saw what was it a rumor I think recently was first week in november if i'm not mistaken i don't have enough in front of me but I wrote the article i think it was first week they were saying and an ipad pro 2 because both are expected in November so maybe or it could have been last week of October for the Apple TV in any case i'm waiting just as much as everybody else for that thing i'm excited for it cause really excited for it I don't want to get ahead of myself because then i might just return it as we all know there's one reason why I'm sorry the apple TV horrible hate that thing but it's like for those listening at home I held up the current Apple TV remote from brazen Franco what's up with ms now forcing everyone on 7 8 and 8.1 to upgrade to 10 with no opt-out option how is this not violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act I have not heard about this uh yeah we wrote it up earlier today Killian did so ok I haven't had a chance to go back and read his post they're not forcing it yeah that's the story they're forcing up to Windows 10 and my guess and I have no idea how they could you know tell people what to do with their systems especially I mean this is assuming that this system supports it too because they can't just you know force everybody right I have a computer that I try putting windows sent on now it's that one hundred and forty dollar net book I bought last unit kept talking about the show now it's just rock but anyway my guess is that they're going to run into issues with that you know supported hardware and to the way I'm guessing we can get around something like a violation of a law is to say that this is safer than the other software so like if they're patching something that would be open but I don't know how else they'd get around it that see here's the thing so you're going to tell enterprises oh I don't think they can do this enterprise there's no way they can do this enterprise but now I know my parents desktop I know I'm going to get a phone call at any moment Sean John John and I turned on the desktop could test stop I I don't shun it won't it's telling me I have to upgrade shawn says 10 let me read you the whole pop-up window no I don't need you know I let me ring the whole ha 2000 man sounds like my parents yeah anytime anything happens on the computer that they don't have a hundred percent understanding of it Oh comes right here oh yeah it's it's a great time oh good good grief from such a Mahal which OS do you guys use the most and why and what do you use each for great question because I'm solo OS at this point and you're still dual OS yeah I i use mac only that came and I know I've told the story before so I'll be quick I I was windows only for 20-some years and after I even with running antivirus having all sorts of safeguards on it I was getting tired of every two weeks having to spend a Saturday night cleaning my system of viruses and malware and adware and everything else and I came into an opportunity at through a situation that I had some extra cash and I was like that's it i'm buying an imac let's see what happens i bought an imac and I've not looked back I have not spent one Saturday night cleaning this thing and you know also the fact that my imac is a 2011 and i can't remem to somebody to take my buffalo about this the other day i think it was you if i had a windows machine on my desk you know that purchase in 2011 it would be a rock by now good luck yeah true you know so why always stayed away from Max because of the the high initial price I'm starting to because believe me I was a Mac cater for a lot of years I'll minute and I still I I do see the uses of Windows my parents still use windows so I do still dive into the OS every so often but in general i'm just a lot happier Mac it's made my life a lot simpler now you I know still use both I do I have my windows computer right next nice desktop box that I built in 2012 so that just goes to show it's not plugged in i mean it needs upgrades throughout so i'll be back on that otherwise i've been using surface pro 3 but that's only when I'm sort of out working and I need something really light to carry because i have this macbook hook up to all the monitors and everything like that so i got it's kind of like docked in a way it's all hooked up so i don't unplug it that often and then i also have like i was saying windows 10 notebook that i've been using for a while it was 8.1 but now it's 10 and now it's just kind of dead so i'm actually on the lookout for either a chrome OS device though or a another affordable Windows 10 Prague and I know a lot of these manufacturers came out with them recently so i'll probably check on Emma I think ideally and I've talked about the show the smallest thing I can get that functions is probably the one off by like with a good keyboard good trackpad and I can do work from so whether it's a tablet with a keyboard and it's chrome or something similar with Windows that's that's my next purchase yeah well but I know you'd say I'm on Mac I guess now because my desktop needs to be upgraded Godwin yeah no I know that feeling oh let's see what else do we got here we got a little stuff from Eddie Raymond I believe I'm sorry if I mispronounced that what do you expect from the new 1 plus X I think it'll make phone call yeah it sounds like kind of a relatively mid-range device and lower costs and one close to you I guess my problem going into this is I wasn't that impressed with 1 plus 2 so I have huge high hopes for 1 plus X I know it's going to be you know not as colorful wasn't one plus two but I guess rumor has it maybe NFC and stuff like that which is going to say left out of their flagship for whatever reason but I don't know it's not gonna it's not really high on my radar oh that's gonna be so bizarre that thing as NFC yeah we'll see I I'm gonna be like if it was the biggest complaint we all had about the oneplus 2 and then they go put it in a mid-range phone maybe we don't need you who knows maybe that's a really do not know just it's like I it's my modeling like okay maybe your consumers didn't want it but you know that Android pay was on the radar like what like that's a highlight feature now that Google is touted like why wouldn't you add that so now your consumers can't use android pay like what I don't get it I don't know uh from shauna man 34 is techno Buffalo going to the Star Wars premiere ok I'll quickly explain how much work okay so yes we know the date of the the premier now is Monday December 14th now typically when we have been invited to premieres we don't get the invites till seven to ten days beforehand so we will not know until like december for that the earliest that being said John and I are hopeful but we are not holding our breaths for this one this is going to be the hottest ticket in Hollywood in years so oh the the chances of technobuffalo getting in while we would love it we would be honored we would be thrilled we're not holding our breath that being said also there is some debate about who will be plus one some people in the irvine office think it will be them i think i have explained to them I'll tell you who later I have explained to them that there will they will be turned into a grease spot yeah they obviously don't listen to techno Buffalo show that they will they will suffer severe bodily harm and all John would say is I'm not involved you all figure it out I was like you are or was he uh uh yeah there's been some debate but so we'd love to go we just don't know yet and again we're we're not holding our breaths hey we would love it but we're not holding our breath oh let's see here from such an Mahal do you think Google would ever release a more expensive chromecast that would be like forty nine dollars or so and run android TV essentially making a direct competitor Amazons fire TV stick I don't see why not I like to see it I think if they were going to do what they would have done it that that's the thing I I think it would have already happened right because and then they're also undercutting the nexus player which to me is sort of just like a proof of concept so manufacturers like Nvidia and others to make shield TV and stuff but I don't know like why would the nexus player exist if they have a $49 Android TV but at the same time Amazon's done the same with the fire TV in the fire TV stick Roku's done the same for Roku's roku TV stick oh I know I just yeah well I know add sliced yeah i agree i think if they were going to do it they would have already done it yeah yeah they could leave it open I don't know it's gonna be interest it would be interested but we'll see yeah the difference I'd say is that Roku and Amazon those guys don't already have I mean you know google has the chromecast and then they have their so like the chromecast is there stick so why create this third middle product I don't know yeah uh from could con I believe do you think one plus our reduction in the demand of one plus two and they changed the buying procedure so early probably probably I mean we we have zero info on that but um hey you could say either that or you could say that they've learned their lessons about production I don't think they might there since I i I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and be nice I you play devil's head good at all potential yeah because I look so much like an angel you know I I would say that's probably a sound theory but again we have no information whatsoever we don't we know that they did run into manufacturing trouble and I think you know maybe they change things because look you have motorola with new phones out you have a lot of other manufacturers releasing low-cost phones new Nexus is are out now they don't want consumers going elsewhere they want consumer still buying those one pluses so I think that's why they're your tuning with them I see a lot of people uploading a question about what keyboards and mice we use if you go if what what's the show's over go back folks we talked about that before that question came in it's a decent question but we actually just answered in normal chit chat so we're going to end with a couple off topic questions real quick and just let's see here from Sean the man 34 I have a feeling this is based on the fact that every time i go to irvine i tweet about being at disneyland favorite right at disneyland hands down no questions whatsoever haunted mansion yeah I if they were so busy it when I went in July there was like no lines I was like got off and on six times in a row no wait I waited 55 minutes for the Haunted Mansion yeah yeah so I only got one right in uh let's see wait we just had a question come from a distant I was excited for the windows phone but now to find out that it's only going to be on eighteen t if it doesn't sell well do you think they will release it for other carriers I'm on t-mobile now it's usually the other way around yeah it is another case yeah wait was it was it the windows phones that we have that mass confusion that first day because a unnamed Microsoft executive yes it's not an AT&T exclusive with AT&T is the only carrier so far to say that they'll carry the phone in other words AT&T other carriers keep carried if they want to and so far there hasn't been announcements from other carriers and I think that's the point of this the answer here if it sells well I think other carriers might pick it up if it doesn't sell well I don't think you'll see it picked up on other carriers and I think the plan now and remember that's only in a Lumia 950 the XL is still up in the air 9 50 s at AT&T so you'd have to buy it unlocks from Microsoft yeah I I'm gonna guys if it really paints itself it's going to be eighteen t and that's it unfortunately i really wonder who that microsoft executive wasn't if anyone ever figured it out because he caused mass chaos that day i did hear who said it but yeah it was misquoted okay cool uh we're gonna end on it for such an has asked this question for a couple weeks writing I've never gotten to it so let me pull it up here off topic what new and returning shows are you guys watching this TV season also have a view guys watched mr. robot it's almost like watch dogs the game turned into a TV show I've heard nothing but glowing praise for mr. robot but I've not had a chance to check it out yet I haven't seen it either um new and returning shows I don't know we don't have long enough to list some of the shows i watch and the shows i watch your really boring I i watch arrow flash agents of shield let's see what else do i watch I'm a long time survivor and amazing race fan I really got into I zombie last season that was I've never read the comics so it's not coming from a comic book background I just thought it was a really well written show uh what else do i watch big bang theory that's kind of a given with my lifestyle uh-uh I watch a lot shows i watch too much television honestly I'm going through Downton Abbey and Ken Burns documentary on the Civil War uh who's documentary on the Civil Ken Burns Oh EDD Byrnes no I thought I thought his name's Edward Burns different documentary guys know Kim birds Ken Burns yeah but that's is it I gotta be Kimber is it the one that's like 16 hours long yeah that's what I said okay yeah that's converge yeah it's like the longest documentary ever filmed it's unbelievable things really good I again something I haven't had time to watch but everyone's told me I need to watch it well box that is gonna do it for this week so as always we appreciate you joining us if you head over to the iTunes Store and search for the TechnoBuffalo show you can find us and we do appreciate your rate review us that does help out the show you can also find this on pocket casts you can subscribe via RSS feed you can find us on the stitcher app which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere anywhere there are podcasts you can find the TechnoBuffalo show until next week I'm Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of techno Buffalo I've been joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton hi everybody until next week take it easy everyone bye bye