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and welcome to episode 66 of the TechnoBuffalo show on live your to host for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton hey everybody are you doing today Todd I'm good you're having a busy week yeah i was saying i wrote as usual on wednesdays the newsletter goes out this morning so i was writing the newsletter and i was like i wish i could write this in you know newsletter at this i wish i could write this in like revealing ink so that later the stories that we're working on now there's a lot of meetings we're taking a lot of reviews were working on but we can discuss yesterday we can't discuss the meeting you had this morning that's right but we can discuss yesterday which was the droid event a memory you've got a meeting we can't discuss yeah there's lots of things going on this week folks yeah but the droid event how did the phones feel really nice i like that so i didn't the last time i played with the droids was the motorola event where they in veiled the pure and the play so it's been a while and end the new Moto G so it's been a while since I've seen Motorola phones or play with them that said I really like these devices I thought what it's almost like verizon's sort of bolstered them well i would say at least the turbo so it's got this aluminum frame the big thing with the turbos it's like an unbreakable screen or very shatter resistant let's say because you could probably still break it if you try hard enough and somebody certainly will so but it's kelly aluminum Todd no one would do that yeah nobody'll do it they're letting anyone on YouTube trying Joe Girardi on YouTube broken probably but what they did is what was funny during the press conference the president I believe in motorola just sort of took the phone like this high you know standing so like shoulder height maybe I dropped it face down on the stage which is kind of daring but it has like I guess like an aluminum border around it and then extra layers on the front and back that help keep it really protected and when I was using it I didn't notice that so that's pretty sweet that you don't feel like you have like you know some kind of bulky phone back in the day you know some the more rugged devices yours like what the heck is this thing like you can hardly get know you feel like you're touching something above the display but this didn't feel like that which is nice and they have the Snapdragon 810 processor in it so you know depending on how you look at it and upgrade over the 808 some people might argue with that especially if you if they have the clock speed clock down because of overheating problems and stuff like that but I don't know let me get that far deep in the same 21 megapixel camera i believe as before you can customize it through moto maker and then you had the new max which I forget off the top of my head again sorry there's a lot of specs going through these days but leave this is like snapdragon 617 i think if it's not that that's because i'm working on the a9 review so I'm sorry and this has the 617 but anyway it's a 6 series processor 1080p display so that's actually down from the quad HD display on the Moto X play both have expandable storage which I really like but they didn't have fingerprint readers which is fine because I didn't really expect that but no marshmallow which is kind of not great and I don't know when it's coming but I feel a bit let's go marshmallow like let's not let's not do lollipop anymore yeah that seemed really odd that those are not coming with marshmallow yeah and the turbo has this huge verizon logo right we're sort of you would see the HTC logo on us and it's the old logo so it's like this long check mark as opposed to the new check mark they have it's a very brief but you know verizon they loved it like throw their logo on everything well and we have a question from such a Mahal about that were those the motorola droids you were looking for I knew that joke was coming at some point today and what do you guys think about carrier branding on smartphones I hate it yeah I hate it too I don't mind so much all the time like a lot of people are making a big deal again about the HTC on the a9 like above the home I don't mind that so much but yeah when you felt like carrier branding all over it's like what the heck excuse me so um I don't like that they were the droids you're looking for they were pretty much what we expected i think i would have liked them better at they you know features like marshmallow and lollipop especially era I'm sorry marshmallow and fingerprint readers especially when you look at phones like the v10 from LG what was that just heard some feedback that already has the v10 on it so that was a phone you know it my recording started looping on itself any case the meantime to mean if you're going for phones especially rugged I like LG's v10 because it has sort of the nicer designed above the g4i kind I think it looks a little better than the new the turbo 2 which is the rugged one from them and it has a fingerprint reader so when it does get marshmallow you're sort of offset for this that's my big cool not the I actually I got to use the droid turbo for a little bit because I want to see how Verizon worked where I live and so I haven't touched the turbo 2 I really liked the turbo in it felt great in the hand it was just a gorgeous phone so I'm interested to see how the turbo to turned out would you say it's comparable to the turbo as always folks this is not our review yeah i think so i think in that sense i mean you sort of get and and and i'm going back to the max here too but you get really good battery life with both I think turbo in the sense that it might be a little higher performing or better performing than the 808 the Moto X pure you still get the quad HD but these days I feel like when the when the turbo came out last year correct me if I'm wrong and it's been a year but I'm pretty I felt like that was sort of like this flagship that was ahead of a lot of things and this year I'm not sure I feel the same way I would agree with you as I remember when the turbo guy was like oh wow like wow this is sweet phone and this year I'm like well just sweet phone but there are lots of sweet phones right yeah I think that's part of the problem I mean there are so many great phones on the market right now that it's kind of hard to for anyone to just stand out above the crowd and go yeah a where the the top phone I mean when it comes to mixtures March March mobile madness that we do yeah i mean that's going to be insane trying to figure out even what phones to put in the Hat mm-hmm you know for us to put them into the brackets I mean it there have been so many great phones lately yeah and I think that's why motorola spends a lot of time mr. you talking about the durable display because they're like okay how do we stand out you know how do we stand out against even our own phones that are already selling like the Moto X pure so I I did find one thing I think one marketing this stuff yesterday so they show this video of phones falling and cracking hmm and then they showed the droid turbo to not doing that they were dropping phones they sell were they I don't think I noticed that because I was sort of back in the room i noticed i think what appeared to be a sony and a knife on right and verizon souls those phones oh i see you're saying verizon yeah yeah for sure so verizon would say oh these folks will break by the way we sell these yeah and i mean if you look at and I'm sir just playing devil's I think it but HTC has their uh protection for the m9 and for the a9 stuff so that even if you do drop your phone it does break they'll replace it Motorola's task you're there you know initiative here is it oh it won't break anyway so you don't have to worry about / placements and stuff i don't know i don't know i'll be really interested to see how they do the one thing that bothered me actually this sort of goes along with the carrier branding they have so much blower and it's incredible in allowing a lot of the phones that i've been playing with recently because we get the review units and and me specifically here on the east coast would be our international units so they're usually free of carrier bloatware and you know like a nine and the galaxy s6 and stuff like that so I I haven't seen this in a long time but they were just loaded with like games and verizon has like six of its own apps pre-installed on there whoa so that I would like to see that stuff I don't everybody wants to see I stop everyone wants to see that stop I I don't understand why the carriers think this is still ok I I guess they're making money you know like by promoting these games or something like I mean I can see I like the last t mobile phone i picked up i think i had like to tmobile specific apps that okay I can live with that right-eo but pre installing games that's over the top Aman ya yeah just like what the heck well I like recently my my parents got a dell desktop and I haven't played with a windows machine in a couple years a brand new one and I loaded it up and I was like oh they're still coming with antivirus stuff yeah it's like using Windows Defender it's got all they are all kinds of stuff now I am it's ridiculous absolutely ridiculous well the second topic we wanted to move on to today was a little bit Apple earns but more just talking about what's going on with them um I you didn't get to listen in on the the earnings call did you I didn't but I was following along and what was said on Twitter so I heard a bit of it really interesting they have adjusted in their numbers now that they do not expect consumers to be on a two year upgrade cycle with tablets but a three year cycle huh and that it was said very briefly very quickly I was like there it is I knew there had to be a reason there was in an error three this year interesting and you know they I think part of it they have to blame sinking ipad so they're continuing to sink this quarter for everybody didn't see their history on something but you know again ipad pro obviously the sales would not be complete it's not even available yet but you know that's sort of the thought is that going to sell well is that going to help change their sinking sales but Mac sales were up which was interesting or at least beat expectations is interesting yeah and iphone sales it was a record fourth quarter on top of record third quarter it back in July so everything else look pretty good yeah everything else looked good the ipad sales were down you know there's a lot of good stuff going on there but I there's one there's one thing they always bring up that annoys me because they bring out you know thirty percent of the new iphone buyers last quarter we're Android switchers yeah that's great how many people did you lose to Android right did you have a net churn or did you have a negative churn right but I mean you have to wonder if its record sales then and it's hard to figure this out but then okay so there's an increased number of iphone buyers if they're losing them then that means that maybe there are people who are coming from nothing previously which makes sense given the increased focus on emerging markets like China South American so right and also people that have been reluctant moving over to a smartphone you know so yeah I mean there has to be new people moving in i think it was also interesting that china sales were up ninety-nine percent oh there you go i don't think i saw that yeah yeah yeah they nearly doubled and I fear over yacht but I could be wrong something along the lines on Twitter of like seventy percent of iphone owners still have something older than like the 5s or older about this interesting now that's not seventy percent obviously people just bought iPhones but people would still own the iphone right right yeah well i mean if it works it works you know Roy and I Rory Troy our managing editor and I were discussing that just yesterday you know we still have ipad tues not air tubes but tues in the office that we use every day for like our teleprompter mmm you know it still works it's fine that's interesting I don't want to accuse it so you know if the product works the product works yeah yeah so why not just keep using I mean yes folks like us you know we want to always have have you know we will I have iOS 9 and the people that are back on you know the for the 4s you know whatever they're not getting iOS 9 they probably don't care yeah they're on that phone for a reason oh yeah exactly the phone so one other topic I wanted to touch on briefly and such Impala actually s just a question about this what do you guys think of the recently announced Samsung Galaxy hbu tablet for those of you that don't know the galaxy hbu tablet was finally officially announced by same song this morning yeah I we haven't gotten to spend any time with it yet you know so we're just working off of what we've seen I just don't get it yeah I don't get it either like the handle I don't know I guess the hair like I feel like it seems big and when I think tablet I think you know like the way we use it like oh maybe I get up in the morning I check the news on it and then I carried my backpack throughout the day in case I need it like when I'm out and stuff like that instead of a laptop but this is big like I don't even know if it would fit in a backpack I'm looking over here like oh I don't know it what 18.4 inches or something well I use my iPad a lot in bed you know reading a comic or whatever at night you know I imagine me laying there with an 18.4 inch kitchen ahead sorry not buckling my six plus hits me when I drop it yeah exactly yeah so what was the cause of death well apparently he was using his tablet embedded and fell on his head oh man Darwin horn but I mean I think if we look at it it could be and I was just looking at the press images and stuff maybe for like kids in a dorm and they don't have a TV or not room for a TV but you have to think like we don't know what this costs she has since I didn't say but TVs I have one right here that was like 250 bucks I'm guessing this tableau it's gonna cost more given that most tablets cost more in this unit oh I've got I've got a small TV in my kitchen that I need to replace I went online to see how much you know it like a 24-inch television would cost or whatever now yeah like a hundred fifty bucks yeah and then you just get a Roku so like I feel like even college kids might be like why do I knew this thing yeah I don't know I I'm all for trying new product categories but I'm not quite sure who it samsung with you know what if we had an 18.4 inch tablet well the funny thing is it's like oh man it's they're starting to fill in that gap between all the display sizes because they used I mean they literally have like everything from the tiniest up to like n point one 12.2 they had that tablet now we're at 18.4 and then tvs and monitors looks like i have everything i think it was what was it two years ago you you got in late or know that samsung announced their their son de CES meeting after we'd re booked your flight mm-hmm and you aren't arriving until after the event so I i went to the briefing and then i was going to do the video right and they had so many different i think they had three different sizes three and I'm there with our video guys trying to film this and we had to keep reshooting because I kept go saying the wrong size for this one I'm like me good grief yeah it difficult we got away from yeah well we have it now oh so it appears that there's a built-in handle though which is interesting because that like you're saying new product category i think that could be a distinguishing factor here because it's not it seems to work like a tablet but it's not because a tablet I don't do I have a tablet on my desk here here's an ipad man like a tablet you know is meant to be like this like there's no you know carrying it this is like a display with conch okay somebody needs to come out with a boombox app for it easy to walk around with it on your shoulder seriously I'd be pretty funny because that's the thing I mean maybe it's just that like we gotta play with it see what the heck it's about I don't know I'm going to be really curious to see exactly what the heck this thing is and who it's meant for and I don't know well let's go ahead and jump on in two questions and this one I'm going to jump to this one because this actually relates to a topic I was going to bring up any way from such Impala well AV guys beginning the new Apple TV for generation 2015 yes I ordered one the other day I wasn't expecting order one quite that soon but at home where I have another Apple TV guess what I've lost and I can't find anywhere budget ever I'm sure you threw it away for those of you on the listening to the audio show I'm holding up the infamous Apple TV remote Shawn hates more than anything in the world a stupid remote I think you threw it out and then said oh gee where did it go I gotta order anyone ah yes yes that that's right because I've suddenly turned into Todd wide excuse to order any gadget ever enough true I was finding myself we're gonna go on a tangent real quick but I was finding myself yesterday because I really do like the a9 in a lot of regards this doesn't have LTE though so I was like okay maybe I'll buy my own but then I'm like oh but it's kind of sluggish for you'll see in my review but here's a quick spoiler it's kind of sluggish for loading games and substance very slow at that but everything else is quick and I added that 128 gigabyte microSD card I've been telling you that been dying to buy and if formats as an internal storage so i have like 160 gigs or something of storage on this little thing and the fingerprint reader is good it's got marshmallow so i was like gosh by that then I'm like oh but the Moto X pure might be the better by it's got a quad HD display but by the time you you know by the time I customize it to what I really want and add the storage because 16 gigs even with the expandable doesn't have marshmallow yet so it's not format as internal storage I was I going on 832 so then it's 450 bucks and then I like we'll wait that but now it's just kind of like it's going to remind me too much in the neck six and all ready Onan x6 so why would I buy another one of those then I'm back on the a9 that's these are the kind of thoughts I'd go through sorry that tangent well here's what I voids like should I buy try not well here's my question though why do you need another phone right now yeah that's a good question well oh you know what like i was saying a lot of my android devices are our international so they're not LTE but okay I don't leave my house that often so I can just use the watch god none of us leave our house yeah i'm currently carrying around my nexus 6 which has my three UK sim card in it uh-huh because it's got a gorgeous screen i love the screen on it i'm just using it as a Wi-Fi device right now yeah aleko that's how i usually am i guess most my devices yeah i mean it won't work you know on any cellular network until i get over to england next right ah but back to that Apple TV I am oh and this is the other way shut up ahead of body devices I don't like waiting for things so I want to be able to go and like buy this and then plug it in I don't want to wait like till no I think it's November fourth is now the earliest you can get the Apple TV if you order now so I'll probably want when it's in stores and I can drive up up the block and have that in-store experience in binary it's supposed to be in the Apple stores on Friday yeah so I might do that but the apple store in Manhattan and best buy will have it on before not to go ahead and see we'll see yeah mine is currently preparing for shipment it looks cool though the only thing that my wife and I've been watching a lot of content from amazon instant video which is on Apple TV which kind of a bummer if only it had that I'd be a little happier wonder why it's not on there oh no probably I know cuz it's on everything else like Roku yeah either you can't argue that it's because they want to you know keep you on the fire TV because it's on the roku yeah it could be Apple but I don't know why Apple wouldn't something but then there's an ample it was on the on there's an amazon instant video app on ipad ipad yeah you're right because you can download content there I don't know why maybe hey maybe you'll come out now well now that Amazon is declared they're not no longer going to allow the sale of Apple TVs yeah maybe not then who knows a question from Davis tap what do you think of the sales of the surface book iPad pro and Samsung view will tell us about the feature of the tablet convertible market it seems like companies are just trying to force the market on the public when there might not be at a man Davis you're a man after my own heart I agree except for I think the surface book is sort of like the laptop thing ipad pro I sort of see it's just not a laptop thing I don't know big tablet like it's almost like where the surface books trying to be a laptop this is still hanging on to being a tablet it seems like to me and I haven't spent time with either one of them I saw the surface book and touch tip of those it then the Samsung view what I gathered today is it's like not a work machine at all like Samsung doesn't seem to suggest that I mean you could because Android but doesn't seem to be suggesting hook up a mouse and keyboard and get to work it seems like that's just a totally different product category but I think Davis is your honor something in the sense that every company now is like crap people aren't buying tablets like they were when they were hot maybe it said they're not upgrading news every three years and they're like now what do we sell them for that and that's why we're having like these oh but it's not just a tablet it's also a TV or it's also a laptop or it's also a huge iPad well I agree with this is something I have said many many times over the years as we've worked here at TechnoBuffalo and even when i worked at other tech sites you know there are times where i go did anyone ask the consumers if they want this market to exist oh it's it's insane from all the meetings that sit in there is a study for everything and that's the argument they use and rarely do you see this study but they're like we talked to consumers and this is they want I mean I've sat in meetings where phone company a one year is like consumers don't want micro SD card slots they don't care anymore we were lying on the cloud next time they come back and say oh consumers wanted micro SD card slots that's why it's in this phone it goes back and forth and for every topic you can think of there's a consumer reason why they've done this and often it makes no sense i mean they could say consumers want phones with handles on them and everybody's like what are they selling remember when they thought we all wanted 3d phones yeah exactly like Oh Joe in our internal research we've found this and it never makes sense so no that's what I think I think they're trying to force exactly what he was saying like this market that doesn't exist but they will argue exists and that's what people want because that's what's that saying Steve Jobs like you didn't know you wanted it until yeah there something like that yes legend what your that but it was something along the lines of you know you yeah I know I there there are many many times where I'm like who thought this was a good idea yeah and I think I think they're after these things were like you know they want that next big hit like touch screens on phones were Apple crushed it or big screens where Samsung crusted with the first node phablets you know now I remember covering phones when 4.7 inches was a was a huge display and now here we are with the a 95 inches and I'm like oh that's that's a relatively small and palm friendly display so it's crazy how industry to shift and I think they're all trying to catch on something big here one way out of this ayano very very interesting uh from jeff k what do you guys think of hcc jumping the price of the a nine to five hundred dollars oh it's a bummer i think this is the bazaars pricing thing i have ever seen yeah i have background information on it that i can't specifically discuss but 399 was the hot spot and I think it should have stayed there yeah and i think that the a9 is a is a great option at that price i'm not so sure at five hundred bucks I don't know which is hard because it's uh it's difficult to address in reviews I'll say this for a lot of people who otherwise didn't see that price change coming yeah it's surprising in a lot of ways even though they said it was temporary I don't think anybody knew is going to be so temporary I mean you really have to buy the phone before what november seventh yeah i think so i just don't think that was a good idea yeah uh from such a mahal what do you guys think of the use of YouTube read it will it be a success or a flop I don't know no I'm not one who would pay for that yet because I haven't really used like YouTube music or whatever the what is it I think it's just called you to music I remember youtube players i know they that comes with google play music we can watch the music videos and download it is offline and all that stuff so i haven't been using it anyway even though it's sort of been around and now you know to pay a subscription fees to what so inherently and forever has been free is mind-boggling to me i mean yeah you get rid of the ads which is really convenient but I just I can't even wrap my head around if that makes any sense that's like it's like if Google came to me tomorrow and said like chrome is 299 a month now I'd be like but I can you see it free forever like what my only fear is that they're going to start increasing the number of ads we see ya so you're like oh wow I really need to yeah not sitting through a minute every time I want to watch a video yeah I know that I'm really concerned about that mmm but we'll see I I personally have no interest at this moment in subscribing to read yeah you know what I'd be interested in seeing to is a report on when our consumers fed up with too many of these monthly bills like I think all throughout time probably we've all had monthly bills I mean you have the telephone bilieva gas or electric la la la but now it's like for every little aspect of your consumer life is like another payment so it's like music and movies it but movies over here on netflix or a little bit more each month and then over here you get amazon prime because you got to pay a monthly delivery and blah blah re annual it's like wow that's a lot of payments and when what's important and and when is that going to start affecting what people decide to pay for i recently consolidated how i did all that stuff I got a new credit card and I'm using it for nothing but my monthly subscriptions right now that's interesting and yeah it's super interesting because and the thing is then you get into a bargaining situation with yourself where you're like yeah but it's only nine ninety-nine a month yeah that's just one night at the movies you know cuz like I recently subscribed a Marvel unlimited the you know you can read as many marvel comics as you want yeah it's 999 a month I'm like but at the same time if I go into a comic book store and buy four books the 0 or three books you know it's gonna be that much so but then there's my netflix in my hulu and and you're like wow this is adding up and and i noticed because just for like review purposes stuff we've talked about like one of the new windows phone comes out I'll do the Xbox music and then I'm like wow now I have xbox music and google play music and Spotify and Apple music that's why I mean obviously it's because we're reviewing products but and that's just to cover music I mean then you had a netflix and hulu and amazon prime's annual like i said it's well worth it that's like the one that i feel like if i had to give up everything i still keep prime yeah i thought there's no way I would ever get rid of prime and nope no II wasn't hurt I had to get doggie pads yes sir booty pads will baby at home and it's like it what do i do drive to the pet store which is probably a half hour away or amazon prime and it'll be here tomorrow yeah Oh unless i get plus i get the videos and all kinds of other stuff em exactly from jeff k what do you find more impressive Samsung's third-quarter surgeon profit or Apple's record-breaking profits I actually I wrote I was the one that wrote up the Samsung story this morning and first I and the this is one of those situations where it'd be so easy to call me an apple fanboy but I am simply talking numbers Samsung has had seven consecutive quarters of down reports it's great that they had an up quarter it was not it this way I love is everything I read was about well the phones aren't doing what they used to do and you know they're making this many more chips where all the other departments of Samsung Samsung makes everything I think they're billed as separate companies in some cases like I think samsung display is a separate company okay that's why I had to wonder because there's no mention of like the televisions or the you know the appliances or I mean but like when we're at CES when we go into the to the Samsung mega booth everything's under one everything right yeah so it's hard to realize where what falls work um I I think though Samsung's put itself in an interesting position and I mentioned this briefly in the article you know if their phone sales her down that's fine because that means someone else is selling that many more phones and they're making the chips that are in that phone right right so they've got you coming or going and so yay to me the Samsung profits means a healthier mobile market than anything yeah I agree with that I also think in regards to specifically mobile / samsung they've done a really good job starting with the s6 moving forward putting a focus on premium products I don't know what I was also use the word margins how much they're making off of each unit sold and how that compares to apple and I think that's where you start to get into who's more impressive and profits is how they're making their money and I don't know what the breakdown for that is but I think Apple to bounce back I mean Samsung to bounce back sure like I think that's probably the more impressive of it too coming from slumps back into the game because you've seen a lot of companies struggle with that I mean HTC for example has gone back and forth blackberry especially and I'm excited to see that android phone I don't know if that's going to do much but it's Sony it seems like a dangerous market right now where if you get your head into a slump how the heck you get out of it and see Samsung bounce back nice from section bajo all will there ever be a time where Apple doesn't have a successful quarter yeah I mean it's happened before yeah its history yeah I don't know when I don't ups and downs if I if I knew that sort of stuff actually play the stock market hey well one of the things is you look at and this is she going back to freshman economics you look at an asset and necessary Goodrich just say like a luxury good so if we were to go into a down economy where people can't afford these iphones and apples spending billions of dollars making these new expensive iPhones and then nobody buys them that might be a troubling quarter for Apple ya know there's a lot of things that you spend in your selling premium products and they're attractive then you can do well from Davis tap another market based question is there any evidence that carrier exclusives like the droid line actually bring more people to the network I know at work trade teen phone was the only called a smartphone you know that's something I've wondered a lot I don't think there really is any phone out there other than the iphone that would could be a carrier exclusive and make somebody go Oh I'm dropping my current carrier because I got to have this one phone yeah I think this was more back in the day and even early Android and around time of iphones to specifically android and before that where phone makers were making very very different products so you would have a feature phone that had like speakers on it you know and thinking of an old samsung phone the header people remember the samsung phone on verizon it was like a lipstick tube and it was really thin like this and sort of flipped around I think that's where you saw and actually even the old razors where you saw people going between carriers because they wanted a specific phone and I wouldn't be surprised I saw a rumor Esther I don't remember who wrote it it was on Twitter that maybe these are the last two roids on verizon the droid branded phones and I could see that making sense because I don't Davis I don't see people going from carrier to carrier for specific handsets anymore no I think that's a thing of the past I think if we saw you know Verizon and Sprint were the only carriers with the galaxy s6 and galaxy s6 edge and people were really after those funds then you might have seen that and there were times I actually remember the first time that samsung sold their flagship on all four carriers and the head of communications was like I never want to go through that again because it was such a pain in the butt by now of course its standard they have their flagship on all four carriers every single year and multiple flagship but back then it was very different why I love is when I carrier has an exclusive color yeah for retailers like a red red or the blue phones & best buy sometimes yeah yeah i'm going to change my buying habits for a color right yeah that's not happening from men of and kumar should i get samsung note 5 or wait for Samsung s7 and do you think note 5 will get updates in coming years um if you mean will there be a note 6 yes that's a tough question I mean it depends on a your needs at this moment how you use the phone and see just how much screen real estate you need yeah it's one of those tough question always is the late game I mean you can wait because then you'll have a year before worrying about the galaxy s eight presuming me continuing to go down online and you have a long time until the note 6 note 5 is really good though and the s7 like you're saying presumably will have a smaller display so really you serious yeah it's gonna be great fun note 5 is a great phone and will continue to be a great fun yeah I agree I agree it's very much use k space though for sure uh from Jonas KO how does the droid turbo shatterproof screen field since you've actually had the opportunity to touch it yeah so I played with you yesterday and the thing keep in mind that when we're playing with the phones it's like I think you know 20 minutes with the device and that's crowded and people want it and then you got to go get the max also and film at but to me it felt like a regular old display which is I which I was saying earlier in the in the call seems pretty awesome given that it's resistant to shattering I don't want to say shatterproof or maybe it's shatterproof but uh you know I think it can still be damaged Oh somebody on YouTube will find out yeah the shooter with a shotgun i'm sure it'll do yeah somebody will one of those gun guys will for sure take it out from such a Mahal off topic do you guys collect anything besides gadgets IE Funko pop vinyl figures coin collection special comic book covers etc I collect way too much stuff I don't think I really collect anything I've hobbies fishing so you collect fish yeah no but I don't really catch fish that's the problem I collect stuff related to disease haunted mansion I selectively collect comic book statues I selectively collect still some comic books yeah collecting has always been a problem for me I need to seek therapy for that someday from George day what can YouTube due to make youtube read something I actually want that's an excellent question well that's a scary thing to that's where you're just saying maybe they grow ads all over the priest at worst then now you're like I can't deal with this now I gotta pay for you to read but not because you actually want to but because that's where stuff is I hope that doesn't happen yeah last question for the day comes from adam McDonald's do you think services like Phi will take off I think eventually there'll be a good option I don't think they're going to be mean consider it runs on tmobile and Sprint's networks so I don't think Google's goal is to say you know we're replacing them because they need them unless the Phi I mean I'm not phi fibre rollout eventually gives them something a backbone to work off of but then they have to get all the spectrum too i don't i don't know i think it's gonna be more of like an option rather than this mass appeal thing yeah I tend to agree plus project Phi or not project fiyah I keep mixing them up fiber a Phi is the reason that the Royals Mets game last night went out I think right pretty crazy no I actually right up on that they also do remember I'm just talking about headlines and saw this morning so I probably know the electricity to the TV truck failed and then both generators failed at the exact same time Google Fiber went out but it was not connected to what was happening at the stadium oh ok that sounds like hacking or something I don't know I quick to completely off topic grant I i love Kansas City it's one of my favorite cities ever however when you stand in Kansas City hotels I do every time before I fly out there's a dollar fifty tax which used to state explicitly was four and now they've kind of disguised it but you stay in a Kansas City hotel you get charged a dollar fifty tax that's the stadium tax okay that's how they decide to pay off arrowhead stadium and the royal Stadium is by oh if you come to town for to visit guess what you're helping with our stadiums those teams are taught that's you know that's how they sometimes don't get bill cos nobody wants to do well at least it wasn't like st. Louis that WOD the entire state to pay for their new Ram stadium death oh that was a crazy idea anyway Baz gotta bring this episode of the text of Buffalo showed no clothes as always we thank you for joining us you can find us on the itunes store by searching for the TechnoBuffalo show or we do appreciate if you r 8 r abuse that does help out the show you can also find us on pocket casts you can subscribe to our RSS feed we will be adding the show to google play we tried doing it this morning and it was acting a little crazy but we will be adding the show there and as always you can find us on the stitcher app which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere anywhere there are podcasts you can find the technical Buffalo show until next time I'm Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of technobuffalo I've been joined by deputy managing editor Todd Masson bye everybody till next week take it easy everyone bye-bye