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and welcome to episode 71 at the TechnoBuffalo show I'm lime your to host for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined by deputy managing editor Todd Hazleton everybody are you doing today Todd good all those weren't everyone right now in case I cough I'm sorry I'm still getting over a sinus infection but uh oh it's calmed way down thankfully so we are in the holiday season and by the way that's why we missed last week I was coughing way too much and nobody wanted to hear that so we are in the middle of the holiday season which means it's our quiet time of the year mm-hmm so we're going to catch up a little bit on what's going on in the world because there's actually not a whole lot of news news because we're in this holding pattern for CES and a couple weeks which I can't believe so yes is this close I am so not ready for CES yeah I'm ready here the holidays and then CES the worst time well you know it wouldn't be CS wouldn't be so bad if they would just I I know they want to do you know the first week of January and all that well that this year that means we have to give up part of our New Year's weekend to jet off to Vegas you Jacob and I arrived on Sunday yeah you know and first thing Monday morning you get right to it yeah we get right to it although it and have you gotten any edge folks we're going to do a little housekeeping walmart right here on the show have you gotten any notices for anything on Monday up yeah I have some meetings pre reefs and stuff like that but um yeah the big the big show that everybody's sort of gonna want to start to tune in for is on Tuesday that's a nice day when all the press conferences are and then throughout the rest of the week we have meetings all the way through Friday yeah remember the other day when we said Oh Thursday looks clear yeah and within two days i think it just you know first is that like a solid block of red on the google calendar yeah which is crazy i remember when i was a lot younger doing this for my first CES isn't stuff right out of school I would you know I hadn't been and I I would book these meetings like with companies i've never heard of i didn't know how it worked and i would book them like every 15 he like back to back with no break so i was running I mean I was in a lot better shape back then but I was literally running from place to place and then you get there and of course there's always you know stuff announced and I couldn't even get to those things because I'd already had all these meetings booked for from before and so now it's funny I mean thankfully you've learned and now as the show approaches as we've seen the last couple days all these new meetings should start popping up and that's again before we even get there so you have to leave space on your calendar for things you don't even know about it yeah I that was a learning process for me when I was doing Toy Fair back in the 90s you know because you well the difference with typhoid though was at least at that time you did not get into a showroom if you did not have an appointment mmm they just they the very first year I did Toy Fair I'd had my first toy right up for a week and all but two companies let me in why basically throwing myself on their mercy and the by the second year ago I I always had my schedule heck I still do the schedules I print out and hand out to everybody but by the second year yeah and then by the third year I started leaving gaps yo on this day for pick up appointments and everything else yeah it's always a fun process but anyway so now under the actual topics we said we were going to discuss so we're in December and we're already hearing our first iphone rumors yeah which is crazy I keep thinking too and maybe it's because it was a 6s year but I keep feeling like the the you know next year I should say I keep feeling like the iphone 6s plus that I have is like much older than it is i keep forgetting only guy like two months ago at september-october november some three months ago well i feel ya this is a year the first rumors now that's the right though with which you know technology changes also add in the fact the 6s plus is exactly like the 6 plus i mean right so mentally you're I into still going this isn't this the same phone yeah isn't this like an older phone but I mean we have seen rumors now that i think the latest was today it was following up on the rumors of this secret taiwan facility that Apple has where they're working on new excuse me screen technology and I think the idea today was from digit times and you know those reports sort of go back and forth but the idea is that I guess apples trying to work on this micro LED technology it's called it supports it supposed to compete with oled which is their organic LED technology so you get those really dark blacks and the pixels that I guess don't necessarily have to turn on they don't need to I don't really understand how that's going to differ because to me that they sound the same maybe it's just you know not organic its micro but I guess that can help create a thinner iPhone or or maybe just the dinner display because we have to hope that Apple starts to focus on larger batteries with with the space and saving itself that ugly battery pack that it released which is just crazy years ago on my personal blog I wrote up a story about right after the macbook air had been announced you know everything was getting thinner and thinner I wrote up a joke post about the new iPad our new Apple Mac paper or something like that I called it the paper at all i did was take a sheet of paper and i printed an apple logo on it and took a picture of that and i also talked about how i was going to come with this exciting new accessory called a pencil yeah so that's real yeah i know i was ahead of the times but just this obsession with getting thinner and thinner and thinner there is a point where you know everyone mocks me for having such a large case on my phone I need something to be able to grab ya what I'm using it yeah and I feel like I don't underst I'm not sure but I feel like we've hit the point where it's thin enough right like you like why go thinner what's the point mean at what point does it matter how much more than it is because I would say let's get phones that have I mean if you can go thinner go theater and just add the extra battery so we have phones with two days of battery life or three days or you know I don't know but it just doesn't make sense to me to uh and maybe that's the point though and I think maybe some of the the reports the news reports that are sort of taking these rumors and seeing thinner display and we also saw them ditching the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack for the iphone 7 rumor I think people are maybe looking at that and saying oh because they want to build within her iPhone and maybe it doesn't mean that maybe it just means that they need to save space for other things like the battery so or moral processors bigger cameras well now here's a quote you've used devices with USB type-c already correct just two lumia 950 okay is it is that connection I I've not had a chance to use anything with it yet is that connection any thinner then say micro USB or lightning no no I see I think that's where the girls started to run almost back it looks like a lightning connector actually and see that's where they're going to run and start running into a problem we already know they're running into a problem with a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack hmm yeah because we've seen the patent for the the new type of headphone connector that is mind-boggling right but so they are going to run into a point you know it's kind of like they couldn't get laptops any thinner when they still had optical drives right though you know the optical drives left well then they couldn't get any thinner because of the Ethernet port so they dumped the ethernet ports and now make us buy that stupid dongle you know at some point they're going to have to go okay we really cannot go any thinner because the device is going to become inconvenient to the user yeah I agree I mean I don't want to see them ditch I guess they could if they have like the Lightning port we actually see those they have the headphones everything throwing eight on our box of lightning port headphones um so you could like ditch that or just go bluetooth which is fine I I still kind of like having it but I know in a couple years it won't matter but think about the other things people are complaining about like the amra hump right like as it is just that little ring but one of the things is with these advanced cameras they're pretty thick the modules so that's going to be an inhibitor and like there's all these other things so maybe you still have that bumpin and at the end of the day like I said like why can't why isn't thin enough like like this is okay i don't i don't need dinner I guess it's my point I know it's almost like phones are now being body shamed yeah you too bad yes so we have a question here from such a Mahal do you think I found seven will have a USB type-c port I think that is one of the big questions right now because we know that Apple did you know sign on with the type see movement hmm but we have not seen them really embrace it yet yeah just with the the macbook exactly regular macbook yes plausible and rumors have pointed to it but they again like they sort of they want 30 pin to lightning which was a pain in the butt for everybody and now if they do this i guess i guess it's a pain in the butt but it's also sort of the first time actually it is the first time ever that Sam um Apple talk about a Freudian slip that apple would have adopted a standardized port in its phone right and which is a good thing well it would initially be a pain in the butt I think in the long run it would actually be beneficial to the consumer yeah because we're going to have at some point you know just like I have micro USB cables everywhere right at some point I will have USB type-c cables everywhere right and yeah it's just standing you know you have it you're backpacking off don't worry about it everybody's got their house and oh here we go I have a type-c cable right on my desk it looks exactly a hold it up it's exactly like a it looks a lot like lightning yeah yeah yeah you know uh speaking of chargers and all that you've been to England so you know what they're three prong yeah yeah yeah electrical port looks like so one day when I was over there in England I was going out by train and I thought oh yeah I'll take a charger with me you know so i can charge on the train and that has got to be the most inconvenient plug type in existence you know because you can't fold the the teeth down at all and it's this gigantic triangle and sure enough when I went to get off the train I saw there was a woman that got off and her bag her shoulder bag was open I just glanced and i could see yo she too was carrying around a charger with this gigantic head on it yes somebody come up with a better charging system over there good grief yeah or just put USB ports everywhere fast ones yeah exactly oh that would be way better yeah I want everyone to have USB ports everywhere but so the other thing we wanted to discuss today and this is a little out of our yours in my normal conversations but the yesterday came out the news that Bungie was going to add these transactions to destiny that would allow you to just go ahead and pay to have a new character immediately put it level 25 all the subclasses maxed out and all that stuff as someone that's been playing destiny for a year I'm done yeah we were talking yesterday we both have different viewpoints so we'll let you you go with yours and all I agree with you by the way but I also have my own right well I the whole point is that getting up to level 25 was never that big of a grind but grinding up the subclasses took 4ever ok and so the idea now that someone can come along and just buy it for a what was it 40 45 i think and joey said he found like the you could just buy the upgrade for 35 technically yeah because the game if you buy the taken King it comes with it upgrade it was cheaper to buy the whole game that it wants to buy the upgrade which is pretty funny which made me laugh um I that just annoys me you know as somebody that has put hours and hours and hours into this game now someone can just come along plunk down money and so basically Bungie has just told me that months of my time is worth forty five dollars basically yeah so yes I I know you have some other opinions yeah because um I plead a world aboard the couple years ago I played World of Warcraft and I think I got to like level 42 stopped playing and at the time i worked for laptop magazine and we even use my world of warcraft account to benchmark computers okay and we would run a script like a legal script it's fine it's just like it would test the frame rates and stuff but to do so we had to use the I forget what they are but it was the travel way points in the game and you had to pay money for that so we would buy gold to like continue which is illegal but we at it was just for testing these laptop so we would buy gold in World of Warcraft unfortunately on my account it ends up getting banned right so I go on my honeymoon I meet this guy and he's like super into World of Warcraft right and we're like okay you know like I'll play when I get back but my accounts banned and he's like well you can just buy a level 80 character for you know 40 bucks or whatever it is and then we can play together and I was like oh that's awesome and he said yeah you kind of have to do it because nobody plays at those lower levels like the servers are packed but everybody so at this point the game is so old there's no like new characters and so that to me made sense I was like okay right you know if I can't play with anybody then of course I'm gonna pay the extra money so I can at least play with people and then and then that is the new starting level because the game is soul but I see the difference Destiny's not an old game and I'm sure there's still players at those level right and does he's not an old game but also the way the destiny map system works you know quite often I would go off to do a daily Downey and a level three would wander past my top level character right because they have a very different mapping system right right yeah so go two totally different mouse yeah exactly so I just I don't know it just it annoys me on some level because it really it put a dollar value on all the days of my life I've put into this game yeah ill and frustrate you and I just I don't know it's just something about rub me really wrong yeah and this is also coming off the back of the fact that bungee go for a long time said oh we are going to charge you for anything but cosmetic changes you know you'll never feel an obligation to buy anything and true you don't have to buy another character right but this is definitely not just a cosmetic purchase no yeah it's just pizza or you guys saying paid a winner yeah so some regards yeah so what's next oh okay now you've got this great character oh you know you all didn't react so badly to that so maybe we should start selling you guns yeah that's when Stan that's the worst when games start going down that road yeah because then then it begins to feel too much like free-to-play mobile games mmhmm yeah so I don't know I just I i found it a little irksome i am probably within the last month or so i booted up ultima online again just for fun to see what it's like and that's a game for but i think like 1995 for people of it it was might one of my favorite mmorpgs and the economy now in that game which is talk about erson and sad all these things um it's like millions of dollars to buy like super simple things so like as an old account holder i think my accounts like 10 years old or something i think i might have had at the time like a million gold in my bank oh it's like an advanced player super wealthy and that now buys like nothing like people are billionaires it is just so funny to see like how a game changes and if you step away I mean so yeah you basically have to buy gold in that game if you want to do anything now that's how screwed up the economy is oh yeah edge is super annoying Todd I'm going to ask you a very odd question are you able to select questions or only am I see a question I'll tell you why I'm gonna leave you with a question real quick because I got ups walking in the door I will be right back but real quick from praising showing me a raison Franco Todd why have you returned in the last three weeks I haven't returned anything I do have to return something I bought a glass these are my actual glasses but I bought a pair of glasses on amazon that are supposed to help with the glare from a computer because i was getting headaches from sitting here all day and I was like oh that's great then I thought well if I'm getting headaches I should probably actually go to a doctor so I went to a lenscrafters and turns out actually need glasses so I have to return those but something else I bought and I was really afraid that I was gonna have to return to you I still kind of am but is the the a6000 Sony's a mirrorless camera and I was just down in Savannah Georgia taking pictures with it and i love it so far but i'm super afraid that a new upgrade hey Sean spec that a new upgrade is gonna come soon and I don't want to return because I already like this but if there's a new talking about my asics 6000 camera I really like it but it's long in the tooth and upgrades probably coming soon and I'm only kind of discovering that now after having bought it so I don't want to return it but I really like it no I said cycle on camera what's up how long ago did you buy the camera um like within the last week two weeks todd todd no but I was like I don't really care about the upgrade to pro is on sale at bestbuy with like lenses and everything okay all the other that makes oh sweet bundle but I'm kind of the same way because like I had a Canon Rebel t3i and then when John about all-new came our equipment he gave me a good deal on a 60 B right and yes i know there's newer ones out what what are they really gonna do for me yeah i still have a nikon d 3200 to my DSLR but it she's bigger and I kind of I've been looking at mirrorless cameras a lot this is what we use not with this lens I think we have much more expensive lenses in the office but for shooting our review photos and stuff like that and i actually bought this um this is a sigma lens 19 millimeter i bought in the amazon i think it was like 200 bucks and i used it for some review photos and actually i thought that came out really well and it's not Pinot a thousand-dollar away yeah well you don't always need thousand-dollar lenses thank goodness otherwise we'd all be broke yeah uh so moving on to other questions and again everyone my apologies for having to step out like that i warn't odd before we started recording the shows like I know ups is going to show up during yes it though I did return something I was saying i had to get classes and I I returned a parrot I had bought that is just for like computer Claire and and weary eyes they were like 13 bucks on amazon but those are those they're going back there still in a box oh good lord uh from jeff k any opinions on the new moto leaks i think it's crazy early yeah that's another phone that's sort of still knew it was in july but hey if they're going metal that seems cool the back reminds me to you there's like the big camera thing and I mean it's not the entire camera it's just the design but though it reminds me of some of the older Lumia phones so who knows maybe it'll have a big camera module yeah the pictures on the site if anybody wants to this heater hasn't seen yeah that the giant lens was a bit surprising yeah and I don't know we don't know how legitimate it is it's sort of one of those leaks it could be could be nothing yeah exactly uh let's see moving on from braised and Franco is Apple losing their design town looking at the magic mouse Apple pencil macbook and battery case you have to wonder yeah I saw those like the combo shot was like the pencil sticking out of the ipad pro and the lightning cable going in a bottom of the magic mouse to or whatever it is and then the battery case and just like all these things you're like uh it's it's almost like a joke i did i really would like to grab somebody from apple and go in what reality did you all think it was a great idea to put the charging port for the mouse on the bottom um and I saw though Mashable I think had an interview with Tim Cook and they were saying I think they said like it's really hard or I forget the words they used to to take a mophie case on and off just not true it's super easy i mean i think in the older models it might have been you just like pop the phone now and so apples like thing is they're convenient rubber shield that that comes over the phone and attaches the battery case and like that's actually like a cool design and yeah i guess so but it looks more like a backpack or like a pregnant iphone i don't know well i still prefer carrying around yo portable battery packs so do i all the time yeah yeah then i can use them on anything yeah you know instead of using a case I just I don't know I you really do have to wonder what's going on at apple and I never want to get to the point where we would be saying you know Steve Jobs would have never approved this yeah I think we're about there some of the things he just gotta wonder i cannot see Steve Jobs signing off on the battery pack yeah I have a real hard time picturing that but well to be fair we can look at Samsung and their weird keyboard accessory thing that I think it launched I just haven't seen in person yet well since the briefings remember when they announced the galaxy s6 edge+ in the note 5 they had like that it's a keyboard that slides onto the bottom it kind of takes up half the screen that's a weird invention to now I don't just make fun of both of them evenly uh from such a Mahal is this last show of the year if so what do you expect to see at CES 2016 first head of the days because of the days the holidays fall on this year this should not be the last show um so more than likely we will be back here for the next two weeks and then we'll just skip see us week because ain't nobody got time for a podcast at CES yeah yeah this is I thought you were saying the trade show and I was like oh that's the first of the year no actually when I first read the kabobs like now it's not the last show the year uh yeah but no actually there should still be podcast for the next two weeks so we will that that's why we did not choose CES predictions as the topic for this week yeah we'll have them leave yep we will definitely have that for sure because that's a staple of our our podcasting year uh from brazen Franco and this is one that is going to kill me if it's true doesn't the Ruhr type ID I iPad yeah yeah be the API I just isn't the rumored ipad air three feel like a pointless upgrade no 3d touch and or pencil support yes all right so I'm gonna be really really bummed if the ipad air three shows up in March cuz i just got ipad here too in october um yeah if it doesn't have 3d touch that's gonna be a big big bummer I mean that seems kind of pointless however as we've been saying her doing the show I've started to wonder about something I wonder if that could be where they introduce type C and bio s family yeah that would actually make sense I haven't even thought of that I pretot you must be expensive or something too I don't know but I there has to be a reason it wasn't included like the iPad pro right like right it seems like a natural product to do it on same with us bc actually on the ipad pro s come over here yeah but i mean the the ipad has been the launch pad in the past for new iphone features so i'm wondering if the air three could be where type c makes its first appearance yeah it seems plausible but i don't appear thank you i feel like i'm certainly not enough for me to upgrade unless it's uh unless it's charging because i gotta say that's the most annoying thing with tablets these days it's just it they take forever to charge man i was i don't use them as frequently as you do but i was just saw a trip to savannah with my wife and brought tablet along and I was like charging my iPad Mini is just like oh yeah like I'm just not used to waiting that long for anything charge those days I know I was so thankful on my flights to and from England for my vacation that I had charging ports because uh those long flights with a dead ipad is not fun moving on down the line so we have a couple star wars questions I wonder why uh from so deshawne from Baja hey Shawn what is your order of the star wars movies original prequel and are you going to watch the original trilogy before seeing the force awakens okay my order is controversial um I got a new hope fan right or not that's usually people's number one isn't it no actually usually umpires people's number 10 toes new hope so my order does go a new hope because I'm sorry if we don't have a new hope we don't have any of the rest of those so my order goes a new hope Empire Strikes Back and this is where it gets really controversial episode 3 revenge of the sith then return of the jedi attack of the clones Phantom Menace Wow yeah so a prequel makes it into the top three I know I'm sure somebody's had just exploded but I while I had a lot of faults i'm sorry i still have a lot of problems with he walks uh yeah he walks annoying me so much but as for where I think episode 7 will fall I won't know until I see it hmm although I've read every spoiler there is to be read oh I read so many spoilers now let's see here um well we're not going to read a question with that word in it folks do try to keep your questions clean please this is a family show uh I know it's it's yeah my puppies here yeah I'm just thought you know I said family show it also i just pictured come on kids the new tech foot buffalo shows here oh yeah buddy gather around the radio the big old yo radios from the 40s speaking of non family shows like Howard Stern got a five year in a new five-year contract with siriusxm today yeah I well hey let's place it that he's about the only thing keeping siriusxm going that's what i said in my post I was like most people I talked to you are like i have sirius XM only for the Howard Stern Show and I felt bad writing that but it's true but now here's the funny thing though we have sirius XM and two of our cars I don't think any of us have ever listened to Howard Stern this is my favorite time of the year because uh on Ford becomes all Christmas music oh nice yeah so I listened to the Christmas music there's a freeze on for what is what is 40 s music it's all but like you two bigs and swing yeah yo type music yeah but during this time beat and then there's 50s on 5 60s on six usually at 90 s online but yep from such a Mahal what do you guys think of season passes for games I think they're silly the main reason being that a lot of times you're going to get the best deal if you buy it before you even have the game so you're buying a complete pig in a poke you have no clue what you're getting and others meets you if you end up buying the game and you end up hating it for whatever reason hey too bad you very given us your money for the season pass that's why I like I've been enjoying battlefront star wars battlefront I agree with everybody that says like you know it's kind of a want to use the word shallow but it's not like a hardcore game right like it's pretty pretty basic um and like I won't buy the season pass because I I just can't I don't I have no idea like what's coming that's just so weird to me I'll buy it later maybe you know yeah i know i'm not big pain from brazen Franco fed up with destiny money grab why not give warframe a shot I have not heard of warframe I will look into that was that the free game up guess where I remember I thought say I have to look into that thought I'd I'm obviously going to be looking for a new game since I'm not gonna play destiny anymore i am really really annoyed play battlefront from jeff k Howard Stern rules been listening since high school Todd you are amazing now because you weren't amazing before time you were just average why shower all the time on TV to you you were just average Todd now you're amazing right I want you to start referring to yourself as Todd the amazing Todd the amazing guy yeah and especially at CES I want to hear you introduce yourself as that at every meeting you know my business cards yes exactly well we'll get all new TechnoBuffalo business cards printed up for you but you know uh let's see here from brazen Franco with no word fruit / rumor on new mobile sock from Intel can be expected as in phone from the sous this year oh I think so but probably it mobile Congress I don't know yeah yeah I I think they're still good it's still gonna happen I can't see a sous just going oh well we're at that you know we're out yeah yeah I just mmm there is a rumor on a new system on chip from Intel though and I think it was the one that was uh pointing to the possibility of an x86 processor for a future Lumia I thought which I mean what would push a sous into windows 10 mobile territory which doesn't seem out of the question but that's the only rumor I've heard in regards to a new Intel chip her mobile but that would be so cool because i think i've talked about this in previous shows but i always wanted windows on a phone like an actual version of windows yeah yeah that would be awesome from Andre de Silva do you think there will be a new Nexus 6p second gen at CES will it be really soon I think it's way too early first a second gen 6p and then that's one thing for folks that aren't that familiar with Cesc us is not usually a phone heavy show because just a month later is Mobile World Congress in Spain yourselves to be a bigger for the US but not anymore I mean it used to be a show where like sprint would say hey we're now carrying this LG you know flip phone with a keyboard and a speaker on the back and that was new and free phones like that and now as we sort of the models changed right like we have a galaxy s6 it launches on all four carrier four major carriers stuff like that and so that's why mobile world congress is the bigger show yeah in fact carriers don't even have press conferences at CES anymore well t-mobile had one last year but wasn't at CES was it was ill it was offset overlapped with ctia last year in any case t-mobile did their first uncarrier actually was at CES a couple years ago though t-mobile your craziness from Dennis Langston if HTC remade the original evo with today's specs qhd screen 5.5 inch boomed speakers etc would you buy it um maybe I mean I like HTC devices I think they have good workmanship yeah I only gonna say no because I i'm not a huge sprint Finn but I need those spring branding but if it had a quarter in 5.5 inch display I'd be on board yeah I forgot evo is a sprint only nothing against brain I just thought when I use the service i'm not you know blown away by but whatever yeah well probably i can't have an opinion on hun carriers well i can duck having just left spread after 12 years uh her I'm session Baja do you think Star Wars The Force awakens will beat out all the box office records including Jurassic world ah boy um I'd be surprised if you didn't but I don't know anything about movies Jurassic world did 207 million opening weekend supposedly they vary pre-sold 100 million in tickets but that is not necessarily just for the first three days my gut feeling is yes it will be that but you never know I and now I've heard people going is this going to be the film that finally beats avatar I don't know I mean for any movie to get that high as insanity you know although I would love to see James Cameron finally knocked out of the number one spot after two decades because remember everyone Titanic was number one before avatar so how she's gonna say wait a second no no I I knew somebody was had that question ready through their head yeah he took number one with Titanic and then he knocked himself out with avatar that's pretty funny yeah so James Cameron currently controls the top two spots and it'd be nice if his movies were actually good yes I said it folks um they used to be there not anymore I thought avatar was horrible um yeah I think you can take the top spot you know number one opening weekend can it beat number can be the overall number one only times gon tell on that one there there was a lot of things working farm on that whole Avatar debacle I really hated that movie I watched it I didn't think much of it it was Dances with Wolves with blue cat people that's all it was anyway mmm from brazen Franco do you think iOS is a limiting factor on the iPad pearl I think iOS is a limiting factor on everything it runs on AA yeah I I do i think so i think i mean coming from the surface pro 3 that i have next to me i think that's a much better by just in regards to everything you can do with I mean it's full computer and the ipad pro is not as much as Apple wants to say it is it's not I mean but OS 10 on it or something but not with iOS not for my money not for that price it's crazy I think I pepper I I agree with you I think ipad pro would been far more interesting if I was tendin bit on it yeah even as an option right like you could have iOS I was 94 some things you know when you don't need a computer and then OS 10 is dual booting operating system i mean i would buy that yeah but I mean that's coming let's talk about we could talk about the pixel CT which I haven't played with I don't even know did we buy one I don't know if we do not I was tempted Babs like now that's the thing but there are like these reports that it was supposed to run like Chrome OS her like this sort of i mean chrome OS is not that powerful it's great but it's not powerful um like this modified Chrome Android but then they just went with Android and that would have been really exciting at least for me yeah don't knock my chrome OS no i'm not at all i think it's how you know it's cool but I don't know I've been a huge fan a good question here from a keyboard for which one is that this is just the surface pro 3 but I bought the new keyboard the surface pro 4 keyboard which is so much better I was good that was gonna be my first question because folks you haven't lived till you've talked to Todd while he's tried to work on the surface pro 3 key parts yeah that one's in my desk now the old purple 10 drove drove me nuts this one's actually I actually use it it's great that's awesome that actually is awesome because that is our keyboard review insane from with good reason it sucked from brazen Franco isn't the Apple smart battery case of proof that even Apple believes that the battery on their iPhones is too small as a really interesting question yeah absolutely i think that they even i mean people were asking them that Tim Cook said oh well it's great for things like hiking the battery runs out right because you know that's always where my brain immediately goes oh my god is my batter gonna last fall I hike yeah it was a very California answer Riley yeah yeah anyway I'm in New Jersey Zelinka right yeah exactly um you can view it that way or you can view it as Apple said you know what while we don't think it there are a lot of people that do and they sell a lot of these cases and why aren't we getting a piece of that pie yeah that's the unfortunate thing yeah so that is a really tough question to answer but I think you can definitely view it both ways yeah i think it's an admission you think it's why i'm sorry i think it is an admission that they're their batteries too small in the iphone 6 whether they want to say it or not but it is and the other thing that's weird about this is they didn't even take in like all these design ideas that companies like mophie have already done where you have the pass-through charging right where your phone charges first and then or maybe this does do that but just all these design changes like the the charge indicator is on the inside the case on the outside which makes no sense to me and then wait what yeah it's like it's inside it's in the computer it's inside the case it's not on the back like movies is you know that shows how much are just look but it does have like on the I can show it I don't know if it is so you have to take the case off to see how much charge it has yet will know their software also okay if you have an Apple watch you have it on the main screen you can pull it down but then I want to say it was something crazy like that passed through charging where mophie has it where you can charge your phone first than that but it's like oh no it's it's a you can't turn the charge off right so you put your phone in this case and your phone starts going down to like ninety percent or whatever it's still going to take battery from from the case as opposed to just we're mophie you can turn it on and off right like you don't you let your phone die then you charge you later in the day or something which makes a lot more sense so to me it's those kind of things are just stupid to that Apple didn't include maybe their patented I don't know but oh but yeah so the answer is there are better options out there too but you know people are gonna go in the apple store and just be like oh I should just buy up okay so there you go oh that is that thing launch lob is God's I didn't follow it a hundred percent and so I some of this I'd missed out on a lot of this makes no sense it makes that case make even lessons yeah Oh craziness well we've got enough time for one more question and we'll take that from shipping so many do you think it's worth buying the Xperia z5 which has a 4k display I think the experience z5 is a great phone but do you really need a 4k display I there is a point where the display is just more than your I can consume yeah well we also we address this in I think we have the review on the site we do have the review on the site but we adjusted the 4k display doesn't display 4k all the time it it turns itself on and off so um like in movies you 4k content in a movie that you can use it there's not a lot of that content so it's kind of pointless right now it's to me it's more just a proof of concept of bragging rights get a 4k display I would not buy that phone for that reason yeah same here I'm not saying I would not buy that phone because it hasn't I just wouldn't buy it solely for that yeah me either well folks I was gonna bring this week's episode too close and as always we appreciate you 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