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I'm on walk where is your emergency someone to you either into various - what's wrong - people breathing 12 no conference yes okay an arizona resort has become a crime scene after two people died inside the crudely constructed sweat lodge and several more were sickened dozens had flocked to the Angel Valley retreat center for a spiritual event that promised to absolutely change your life James Shaw reveal walking at Kirby Brown of New York died after participating in a cleansing ceremony inside this crudely built Hut the cause of death for the third person who died after attending the October ceremony was multi-system organ failure the event was hosted by self pelvics where James Ray that investigators are looking into whether criminal negligence played a role in the deaths ray has refused to speak with authorities and has left the state the way I would describe Kirby always to people was that she was drunk on life that she loved life she is always willing to me and be open to accept somebody as they were she and her friends were enamored of the secret and they were also big followers of Oprah it is the secret to creating the life you truly want make more money lose weight fall in love land your dream job my guests today believe that once you discover the secret that you can immediately start creating the life you want so when Oprah had James Ray on her show I think Harvey felt very comfortable that this guy was had a lot to offer and a lot to say and a lot to teach your thoughts your feelings and your actions all have to be firing and simultaneously in the same direction if you look at anybody who's not achieving what they desire and deserve in their life you'll notice that one of those three is missing there may be thinking and your feelings are action that's three for three she went to the promo in October of 2008 in the Baja and at that promotional talk she could sign up for the two-day seminar and get a two-for-one deal and she invited me to go with her on her free ticket some of you think wealth means money and I'll guarantee you this you might go after the money get rich it doesn't mean you'll be wealthy there was a lot that was talked about that I thought was actually very helpful I was impressed by Ray's charismatic abilities and how he presented on the stage it was very uncharacteristic of me to write out a check right then and there for George to attend harmonic wealth in San Diego and it was at that event that Kirby signed up to go to Sedona a group of participants traveled to Sedona Arizona in October 2009 to attend a spiritual retreat James Ray had promised people that the event would be great and that they would have an altered state what his program was designed to do was basically to break people down they were told not to sleep they had to talk about very traumatic things in their past in a group setting and at the end of the week James Ray ran a sweat lodge James Ray explained to the participants that they were going to do a sweat lodge and that his sweat lodge was hotter than any other that they needed to stay in the whole time things of that nature typically a sweat lodge is of the size 4 10 12 15 people and typically they do four rounds and in each round people can go out the door opens and James did more rounds than four I didn't know exactly how many but as it turns out he did seven rounds and in 2009 he did actually eight rounds because he miscounted one so he did an extra one James Ray's version of the sweat lodge was a heat endurance test it wasn't a sweat lodge a typical sweat lodges they go in and they relax and it's not it's not that difficult in James ray sweat lodge they were told to stay in there as long as possible and as people were leaving James Ray would try and encourage them to stay in during the ceremony several people came out and they were definitely not feeling well one of our staff was there and she's and she was extremely upset she said there's people's that said that some people passed out and I heard him say we'll look we'll see to that after this round people are starting to realize something's not right here there's people sick James Ray kind of disregarded that people were in distress people started coming out and and this took about 15 minutes for everybody to file out of the sweat lodge the woman who was part of the fire keepers team she went back in to see - to see whether everybody was out and was not there were three people still in there and they were unconscious I just knew I just knew it it was so late the next thing we heard was someone knocking on the door and about 8 o'clock in the morning on Friday morning on Friday more knocked over 9 to ask did we know her state trooper asking us if we knew Kirby Brown Miss then he he told us that she had passed at a certain point we knew what happened in a sweat lodge there's no question from talking to everybody involved we know exactly what happened in the sweat lodge it got too hot and James ray encouraged people to stay inside even though they were wanting to leave but we didn't know if that's a crime when we began hearing his lack of attention to their need for help I was like this man murdered these people we did some research to look into James Ray's credentials where did he learn how to do a sweat lodge and we didn't find anything that that showed us where James really learned how to do these different events I've had blessed opportunity to study with many indigenous traditions and in the Andes Mountains and the jungles of the Amazon and and if the principle is all the same he claimed to have had extensive training to do a sweat lodge not true he claimed to be trained in holotropic breathing by Groth not true everything he did that week that he claimed to have training in and experience and knowledge was untrue nearly four months after his controversial sweat lodge ceremony self-help guru James Arthur Ray has been arrested on three counts of manslaughter an arizona jury heard opening arguments Tuesday in the trial of a self-help guru who sweat lodge ceremony in 2009 turned deadly for three of the participants the self-help author is now headed for jail tonight and it comes after a lot of backlash in court over his deadly Sedona sweat lodge ceremony the judge is a notoriously light sentencer and instead of giving him three counts consecutively he let them run concurrent so he could have been given six years but he was given two we're here today because Kirby isn't James ray is expected to get out of prison today after her death in the following months it took us a number of discussions to get a little bit clearer about exactly what we wanted to do when what kind of action we wanted to take there's a lot of people in this industry that like James ray operate unethically and unsafely and we wanted to try to figure out some way to change that so we've put together the seek safely promise which is really both for the providers of self-help and also for their consumers to understand that this is what they're entitled to and this is what they deserve and we were asking the providers of self-help to sign on to just some very basic values as someone who's going to an event this is what you're entitled to this is like your Bill of Rights these are your rights and and you need to ask for this this industry has to change it has to become infused with ethical standards and accountability large group awareness training is an unregulated in industry it has been for a long time there are a number of companies that sell this training they have a history of problems there is not a month that goes by that I don't receive complaints about these weekend retreats that break people down to make them over again and change them anyone can be hurt by them and there doesn't seem to be any real responsibility or accountability so I think though legislation may be a real difficult thing to accomplish due diligence is something that can be done and should be done before entering into any program and people should realize that these large group awareness training programs even though they see Oprah pitching them they are controversial and they have a history of problems many times in my work people will say to me you know what kind of person gets involved in this stuff as if there's a particular type of person that has a stamp on their forehead that says this person is vulnerable if you think that you're somehow invulnerable think again all the people that we talked to that associate with James Ray Ward seem like regular normal people and I didn't see that coming I thought that this was going to be some kind of cult but no these are just regular people that's what makes James Ray so good and then also so dangerous is because these aren't mental midgets that he's targeting these are mainstream doctors lawyers normal people that become followers we're taking a big step here this morning because as parents we find this tremendously hard James Ray gets out of prison today he is now free we want to make sure that seekers are free to seek safely we're going to issue him the promise we hope he'll sign it we hope he'll follow it we hope that he will not hurt anyone else in the future I have no intentions whatsoever of certainly ever doing another sweat lodge and we do any kind of self-help I don't know you know peers oh hey you could be an even better position now to to help people who've been through a nightmarish experience I I hope so you know he he put himself out there as being omnipotent but in the face of crisis he was impotent he was unable to act he did nothing to help the people that had placed their trust in him he did nothing to help them and then he walked away he abandoned all of them she gave him everything she had everything there was hardly anything left in her bank account all of her money all of her trust and ultimately her life he took it all you you