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please welcome our guest dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson sometimes I mean did the circuit moves really yes so let me ask you something you were voted People magazine's sexiest astrophysicist alive in the year 2000 that was a few years ago well hold on now that's what I want to know did they that category you don't see a lot now yeah did they retire the category or do you just hold the title until the end of time and when is the end of time okay all right so first I don't get big-headed about that distinction because consider the category right I mean it's I don't know what the competition is dis the rest of the astrophysics it was Stephen Hawking in the I don't know this is getting deeper and deeper I don't know who's on the loo else couldn't couldn't be the sexiest astrophysicist I don't know just dad or the category sexiest action star sexiest news anchor sexiest the sexiest model did you win any of those no I just run sexiest a stroke now the category did not exist before me and it has not arisen afterwards so you hold it permanently yeah so far until you lose your you sexy vibe but well I was you know a dozen years ago and and so a student once came up and said because I said that was 12 years ago he said no that means you're the sexiest astrophysically will ever be right right so I thought that was a way to look at that fact so until the universe comes to an end I it'll be a while from now how how long do you think I think the end of the universe should be less of a concern for Earthlings than the end of the Sun okay just so you want to rank what you should be concerned about it okay just so you know we meet will give me a timeline when do I need to start getting worried about either one of it okay so the sun all data show that the sun will die in about five billion years mhmmm so I'm waiting for an app that I can put that in my calendars right yeah just you know they don't go out five billion years those do have a date do you know the day there was a what's this movie that had Ringo Starr in it and he was a caveman that is not a movie that is a I forgot it but it begins it says like 3 million BC October 3rd you know they're getting very specific there's nothing wrong with that so talk to me about I want to ask you a question it might it might be a little sensitive for you you're I don't know if you know this you're kind of a meme on the internet there are there are animated gifs of you or gifs depending on who you talk to there you become like a guy who appears completely out of context how does that make you feel initially it was really weird and creepy because my image would just be the fodder for artists to distort at their leisure mm-hmm the Internet yes and so and so initially I was I was I was creeped out by it and then I said well this in total is a celebration so I should not object celebration of the sexiest asterisk I mean I you know they do that with with other people's images and so what it meant was that my image became more than just me it became something to play with it'll live on it live on its so I okay with it that's a little weird and creepy but I'm okay with it it's it's very likely that that even in the moments just before the Sun burns out someone will load up a page of comments on the internet and there will be a guy there they don't know who the guy is probably because you're out of context of law completely and you'll be you'll be reacting to something there's one we're excitedly there's just there's a there's a cutout figure with me in underwear and you put a different vest of mine on top of it yeah that's Macbeth so it's like you know the paper dolls so can I can you just give me that you are I need to go to that right boxer shorts and you just put on the clothing you dress me in paper dolls I love the sounds of that so you're cool with it now you're now on our creep time by being too mean well what's weird is the one where if I don't if you know do it there's one where I'm doing this and the caption is please yes so yeah because that was a that was like a frame from an interview where I am praising Isaac Newton listen right so I'm listing all the great things he did he discovered law of gravity universal law of gravity and laws of optics and and and laws of motion and and he had some trouble with his gravity so he invented calculus to figure out that problem and then he did all of that by the time he turned 26 so so I was saying he's my he's my man I think the smartest guy that ever lived and so I said so then I gesture and I said the guy's good you know this like you can't argue with Isaac Newton and that becomes you got a badass over here I gotta say I gotta say something what you were just saying fascinating informative gripping but all I could think while you were saying it was every frame of this is going to be turned into a new year this is just you do now are you what do you feel like there's extra pressure because you know it's something you're not just talking you're creating new memes not knowingly and so all I can do is just be myself and if that is meme worthy content no it's never the contents just of what it looks like that it might if what my gestures are mean worthy I can't know that in advance they are I can only my body only moves as the moment requires of it that's gonna be a meme that's going to in fact I'll be honest with you if somebody in here doesn't create an animated gif based on that by the end of this show I'll be very upset alright so let's talk about the meme stuff is great but you're doing some other things that are also important I mentioned in the intro I know this is a real talk show yes is your seat is one foot taller than - all the other talk show your honor right you know we've got a lot of problems with the heights here I'm just saying I wasn't I'm not trying to but you know I did feel like you can't be on the same level as me I've got then I got nothing if you're here and we're on the Leveson level I have no I can't perform okay you just sit here I'll just take a break and you talk but I want to talk about cosmos kind of you're rebooting cause yes all right would you call it a reboot yeah exactly Carl Sagan did the original yes the new one is a generation ago 32 years ago yeah and it's been that also has been turned into a meme did you know that no no you really need to do some I gotta get out more do some googling but Seth MacFarlane is producing he's an executive producer different he's a primary role was our intersection between the what we're creating and where we'll land and this new cosmos will land on the Fox Network it's gonna be on five yes 2013 yes well we had some delays so maybe 2014 that far off yes we'll we'll keep 13 stuff still be relevant in 2014 oh it is we are choosing content well I mean hi shel flies but it's not like it's gonna be oh you know what although you did my knockoff the plan in there too before we get around to it well we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that so so so about what happens next meme that's mean but I want to ask you these I mean America is not at this point known for being really into science I mean and I think you know this we're not a we're not at the present moment we're not a country that is talking about and thinking about science a lot are you sorry I'm more comfortable now going I don't what is going on I know science losing its meaning American public yeah go ahead I just feel like I want to be as comfortable as you are right now okay so tell me are we a country that's gonna get back into science oh that's much better yeah yeah we have to otherwise we recede and we'll wake up one morning back in the cave once we started well there'll be some stages before that no nobody got kind of a crappy house back and one day we will wake up we'll be in a cave and everyone else will be in flying cars and we'll wonder what'd happen ever even people out in other countries other countries yeah yeah yeah they're gonna be us with a flying car I bet metaphorical Florent car well and they probably read all future that we forgot how to dream about so but but do you think that that I mean can we put a show on Fox in primetime and get people charged up about science again will that do it if the content deserves it I think it will grab the audience that it deserves at least the audience that the original garnered and the fact that it's on Fox Fox has like the number one shows on television it's got the look at the whole Fox portfolio its 20th Century Fox which brought avatar to the screen it's it's Fox like pictures which brought Slumdog Millionaire that's the indie arm of Fox it's the conservative commentary that's rampant on Fox News you love right on Fox News is that father got the the left-wing commentary in The Simpsons and in Family Guy it's it's not quite the force of the Fox news network well I sue few episodes I would say transcendent because it not only recognized it it actually pokes fun at it and so in a way that everybody's got to laugh and recognize it so so it is all American demographics the crossroads intersect at Fox if you look at what their portfolio is so that's the place to put cosmos if you want to maximize its impact to bring science to the general public especially the public that never knew that they cared about science there are places you could put it I call it like the science ghetto where where I can use that word okay can I not that's a problem okay so so they're their channels where the science geeks it's on the speed button right you go right there and for other folks we're their most important moment of the day is wondering what Snooki is doing they don't go to the science champ you don't feel there's a scientific element to what's Nucky's there is but they don't know it and so if I'd be happy to talk about there the melanin in her skin or the the the the hormonal forces that reveal themselves in their conduct and behavior sure we could turn that whole thing into a science show let's do it did you see your on Fox did you ever think about is there gonna be any kind of like American Idol element to it are you gonna have people present theories and then you guys will be you officer we're gonna have we're gonna be pure you know science we will be but the goal is not just to teach science but to explore how science matters to you assume of the nation and of the world and of the universe that's a lot of citizenry yeah yeah but the nested in the Venn diagram it's you just have to be the citizen of the middle and you get the other circles for free right like universe yeah you don't really have a choice there's no passport exactly yeah tonight's burden of citizenship to be a citizen of the universe so this ties into your new book it's called space chronicles facing the ultimate frontier thanks for and and and everybody should read it but but it's a and this is a quote that's all again to read it but well it's a manifesto this is a quote a manifesto on the importance of space exploration for America's economy security and morale yeah I mean what how does that work okay this quick what he said let me set it up let me just said that right we're in in at least in America right we economy is in trouble jobs are in trouble we have health care issues we've got a presidential debate you know a presidential race coming up could change the way you know could go to war with Iran all kinds of crazy stuff happening I feel like and by the way I agree with you I'm just playing I'm playing the devil's advocate here because I want to know and I think everybody should hear you say what why should people care about going to space why should people care about space travel or exploring when we have bigger problems to tackle and I mean and you see we haven't find it we haven't invested in it right and there are obvious reasons so so how how are we gonna get people to care about you worrying that you care about space that that matters to me personally and emotionally but not politically I you should care about space not because space is cool which it is you should care about space because advances in a space frontier reset what it is for a nation to dream again and when you dream about a future that you can enable with science and technology then an innovation culture takes root in your nation and when you are part of an innovation culture what you innovate becomes tomorrow's economies and that's what keeps the jobs here that's what stimulates interest in science in the schools that's what that's what that's what relaunches that you the economic stability of your of your marketplace and so you don't have to care that we're discovering something on Mars the fact of getting to Mars required that we innovated and to because if you do something tomorrow you've never done today you got to invent something new to make that happen you have to and this is about big innovations the NASA portfolio today needs biologists because we're looking for life on Mars chemists aerospace engineers mechanical engineers electrical engineers astrophysicists geologists still be planetary geologist all to all the frontier fields of the STEM fields that science technology engineering and math all all the all the subjects that feed these four topics are in the NASA portfolio and and NASA wins every time you could say well I care about the ocean and make your pitch to the eighth graders oh we just still don't know what's at the bottom of the ocean there could be new fishes new plants okay so I need someone a biologist to help me look for life at the bottom of the ocean you're done I get up we're looking for alien life on Mars I need a biologist who's with me okay I win I win that one okay okay we need to be concerned about energy and this I'm not arguing that but what's going to inspire people you get up in front of the 8th graders and say who wants to be an aerospace engineer so that you can design an airplane that's 20% more fuel-efficient than the one your parents flew that's your pitch I get up who wants to be an aerospace engineer because we need a new airfoil to navigate the rarefied atmosphere of Mars I win okay so so I win every time so so so NASA is is proxy for all that captures the dreams and and and and and and trajectory r trajectories that we want to re-instill in the educational pipeline that's why I say just double NASA's budget it's a half a penny on the tax dollar right now and what is the budget right now half a penny on a tax dollar so that converts to like 18 billion all right now you say for penny to NASA of every tax dollar I don't think I can yeah I know so so that's fine it took you so so I'm not here to twist people's arms people after I set all this because it's not the first time I said this right I said this and there's like hashtag penny for NASA with the numeral four they're not websites penny for NASA org penny for NASA dotnet people is like grassroots and I testified in Congress in front of the Senate just ten days ago and and I thought I'd you know there's like three senators there from a committee of 25 and but there's a camera there and like I get home it's on YouTube okay Kara did you I mean it's been people are and I'm looking at the comment thread so people said they were in tears and I'm because I think because it moved them and I was happy to learn that but I'm not trying to lead a movement I'm just trying to alert people of the causes and effects of action versus inaction if you do not invest in NASA you will think that you're so solutions to society's problems oh we need better science kids let's make a better science teacher there's trained teachers okay I fixed that you saying send the teachers to space the people who think that that's that's a dyad that's gets solved just by putting the money in it and then with the jobs are going overseas well let's change the tariffs regulation just adds tax incentives to keep the factory oh fix that that's another band-aid there I'm stand-in the economy you want to boost the economy so let's put some money in innovation sectors okay and I'm saying you can't legislate innovation it's got to come out of the creative juices of really smart motivated people and how do you get smart motivated people to want to do smart motivated things you have motivational goals set in front of them like we're going to Mars but we're gonna set up a colony in the back side of the Moon we're gonna stop that asteroid that has our name on it there's a good one for you okay the asteroid are we in trouble this is gonna be like the movie 2012 starring John Cusack but that wasn't an asteroid also star serendipity I don't know I didn't see it but yeah it wasn't an asteroid that was well we don't knows from the song are we going to be here but note that the inside of the earth horn game back on what your self just thought I'd give some details on it thanks for using you thanks you're ruining 2012 don't mention Hoover it lets you cut hang all right with the geek factors of the moon