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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson interview part 2 - On The Verge

2012-03-28
doesn't have to be NASA can it not be some of these you know Virgin Galactic or it will never be you think it has to be NASA there's a reason for it so I could I wanted that I mean no private industry could create this thing I don't know there's a reason for it it will never happen that way because going to Mars has never been with humans has never been done before the costs are unknown they're unquantified risks and its really dangerous this is like the exact argument against invested in it right that's right I'll taste this man here this ago no we're not doing that exactly that's the whole gonna make a faster car businesses don't do things we need to have had all those four factors together you cannot attract investors and make a business case for it but a nation can and the nation says we want to do this because well in 60s it was militaristic Lee driven but I want to do it now without military motives right we need the military mode well no no we don't need it we we could have economic motives is my point it'll also drive the economy a quite as exciting as a military mode of that I well this is right this I don't want to die motive and the I don't want to die poor motive right so I'm on the second before part right yeah now the thing is I don't want to die port both Democrats and Republicans can really kind of get together on that they do agree on yeah they would so agree on that and so so so them not for the mean I think our political landscape is not I don't want to die poor me the politician it's been not necessarily like I'm not worried about other people dying for well sure but it but this would lift all boats is what that's what NASA does it's what it did in the nineteen sixty and you think just a penny a penny on my mobile NASA's budget then we can go to monopod your before penny I mean go to a penny oh because I'm okay with one fifty cents I will happily pay I will happily half your town go all the way up to fifty cents ah that'd be fine then we could like you know go to Mars tomorrow really oh yeah why why don't we just do this well we want to it's what I'm saying you can go because it's a great adventure in any geek set wants to do it because of that fact but I'm not gonna require the person on the unemployment line whose house has been foreclosed to do it for those reasons but fifty cents is tiny though it's half the government budget and we end plus we're really also in the business of fighting wars so a whole lot of money goes to that to space laser that's what we need space we got sideways face ladies we got that all real but like a millet or directed energy weapon is it is it does it exist he's it on the moon do you know you know don't you you can tell us no one is no one's watching this don't worry trust me okay there there things called directed energy weapons where rather than send a projectile which who's then kinetic energy would destroy a target you find another way to send energy it's all about moving energy from here to there that's what war is all about it's not about anything else I have energy here and I want to kill somebody or break something so you take the energy that was here and put it there and it accomplishes one of those two facts that's what that is the net is more in it that's the geek geek landscape of what war is all about and now it tell us about the energy weapons you still want to know about the end of July yes okay so no no don't tell me about the interview I've ever I'm happy to move on never hearing about the energy web know so you do you get an understanding of the craft that you want to disarm or disable or destroy and then you being the laser or some microwave focused energy it could be a microwave laser we call those masers microwave amplification what kind of lazy laser but well not if you're in the beam you wouldn't think that right so what do these exist like so so there are I'm feeling so you aim it to a sensitive part not much they do they get you don't have to blow up the satellite now you have debris in space that you might run into gotta shoot out what you don't want to so you just disable it and now it's it's it's dead on it's so the weapons exist they've been deployed are they in space okay take that as a yes and so here's the thing I've been very practical in this book the whole first chapter is called space politics and it got excerpted for Foreign Affairs magazine and I got interviewed by like the business you know Forbes and so people are sirs crossover people are beginning to recognize the meaning and value of what that investment represents to our security to our economy to all these things that people used to think o space is just for the geeks at just for their entertainment and it's got nothing to do with us because we got real problems down here on earth and then you so how much are we spending here on earth 50 times what we're now spending on NASA we are spending money on problems here on earth so don't go to NASA say I need that money to top off my 50 times more money so that I can solve these problems that's it No or better yet have them build better space lasers to solve some of this problem like all right okay so I actually want to ask you about some controversial not not that we're not in controversial territory but so you're largely credited with killing Pluto as a as a plan I was an accessory I mean I all right well well okay so but I drove the getaway car but I didn't commit the crime well so there's a there's a there's a book written by a guy named Mike Brown it's a good friend caught how I killed Pluto and why it had it coming mhm is there a beef in this in the science community about who was responsible for the death of Pluto I mean I got blamed for killing Pluto but I didn't kill Bluto but he took the credit he so therefore right so he not only killed Pluto he admitted it so so get off my back right you're right how I got these guys you got the gun The Smoking Gun and the person who pulled the trigger and all I did was drive the getaway car so it in the year 2000 we rebuilt the Hayden Planetarium into a whole facility and we said well we want a future proof it what is the trend line what are the trend lines in scientific research so that when we cut metal it'll have some shelf life for it without having to redo it every six months we notice that more icy bodies were being discovered in the outer solar system who look more like Pluto that either Pluto or they look like any other planet that's an awesome sentence by the way you follow that sentence me look so so what anytime that happens in science you say there's a category just waiting to be named a new a new bin of identity just asking for it and so Pluto and these other icy bodies are part of the Kuiper belt no comments Kuiper was a guy who predicted that this belt of frozen objects would exist beyond Neptune sure enough there they are chorus and Pluto was the first among them and we we just grandfathered it in his planet but it's really puny it is it is much smaller than our Moon half of its volume is high small I imagine Pluto's being like you know could fit like somewhere on the stage right over there how small is Pluto okay I'll tell you if if Neptune that's that don't use Neptune go with like a basketball compared to a basketball no no that's it you don't know where I'm gonna land that's true so how would you know not tell me not to go lodges instant if it's a reference point I'm just saying okay so if Neptune were analogized with a chevy impala in mass yeah of course so now how big is Pluto compared to that so this Chevy pal parked at curbside Pluto would be not like a mini cooper know it would be a matchbox car sitting on the curb all right but compared to the moon the moon the moon is I forgot the exact number it's like eight times the mass of Pluto our moon where can we put Pluto in the world we put it down somewhere Pluto would fit between like here and and Chicago okay so you know that big did I just say that I don't by the way I don't even have size issues with ike mention it but I don't have size issues all right I'll tell you what it should never invoke size if you're dissing Pluto because Jupiter is more bigger compared to earth than earth is compared to Pluto so if you're sitting on earth poking fun at how small Pluto is the Jupiter ians if they were in charge would say the solar system has four planets and everything else is debris debris including earth and its puny earthlings crawling on its specs surface do you do you think there's a movement amongst the Jew batarians that that do you feel like we've got pressure from the Jupiter I think we don't stand a chance jupiter has a storm a big red store is called and it's a spot and we call it Jupiter's red spot because in my field we call it like we see it unlike the geologist or the biologist stupid geology or the chemist that go out of their way to make words this long so you have no idea what they're talking about all right with us it's all one syllable Big Bang black hole red giant white door there's a Red Spot on Jupiter it's called Jupiter's red spot there are spots on the Sun we call them sunspots okay there's official lexicon because you know archive that's enough that's a Blair smokescreen of vocabulary to distance you from who it is you're trying to communicate all of its grandeur to so there's a Red Spot on Jupiter 2 storm it's at least 300 years olds arranging store the storm is bigger than Earth Oh doesn't mean man he added good enough why we leave it here look why were you put on the show when we gonna talk tech getting here man I'm goes out to gadget air your I'm just just about to get there and now you've ruined it are you happy all right listen backstage we were talking and I was like you know got all these universe questions where's the universe and when are we gonna die is the Sun get a blow up they know whatever dr. Tyson was not impressed by my questions he he was like when we get we got to talk about gadgets are we talking about gadgets gadgets yeah I was blown away by and I asked people for questions on Twitter and they were like asking what kind of phone to use it so we're gonna talk gadgets now we're gonna get deep and I got news for you this is my wheelhouse this is you got Pluto you have the universe I have iPads okay not quite as cool but you know pretty cool all right so look what kind of phone do you use I it's it's a iphone which generation it's the one behind I've never I don't the iphone I don't go I think you mean the iphone 4 yes yes now what can I tell you how I how I first bought an iphone yeah that's not tell you hi hello it's all right some years ago back when the year the iphone first came out 2007 not what that was so I that year I had semi season tickets to the Yankees I'm born and raised in the Bronx so I'm a legitimate Yankee fan that's just my hometown team all right so I'm there the iphone had been out for like a month and would have been in july i think i would get them on one of these will find out so so you know when you have season tickets you know the other people in the area in the sections right so i'm there it's like a wednesday afternoon game and a couple comes in kind of young ish if i were to sort of stereotype they might say fresh out of college first internship in New York summer intern right so maybe early 20s a couple they come in and sit to my left she sits a heterosexual couple she sits to my left he sits to her left this is important the I okay go ahead sometimes you only learn that it's important at the end okay rather than at the otter named okay so the woman is especially attractive like on a on a scale it's just kind of off scale okay yeah it's not on a scale it's off the scale all right beyond 10 yeah left so so it's still on okay I really but no 11 it's not no it's not on the sky off the scale yeah it's off the scale so he is kind of soompi okay just that doubt you would not have paired them but love knows no battle so I a lot so it's fine so then looking around like this and this is my town it's mike stadium and they clearly they never been i said uh have you been the Yankee Stadium before there's my first time ever at any sporting event she replied so I said oh ok well that's Babe Ruth's corner and that's where they and I'm doing all this ok while I'm saying this it's like this first and a half inning she's on the jumbotron so the left-field camera found her but Joseph it's not just my as because who ends up on the jumbotron really beautiful people and crazy people end up on the jumbotron right right people like yeah their underwear on their head and stuff like that ok so it wasn't just my assessment the left-field camera two hundred yards away fountain ok and put her up on the jumbo so she thinks everybody's turn is a that's because beautiful people don't really know what the world actually is like that right now ok so stuff so what so he pulls out his iphone and so I look because I'm thinking about the iphone but I wouldn't date it they did not supply to be by Apple alone so I leaned to him and I say how do you like your iphone she answers she answers it's his new girlfriend and I said whoa so that was a Wednesday by monday I had my iphone if he's looking at iphone and not her and she's on the jumbotron that's got to be an awesome device okay so so to this day to this day if I think of this all the time if I have the opportunity to for the time machine that i worked with stewie to help build we go back if I'm gonna meet Isaac Newton I want to bring one thing back it's gonna be the iphone really oh yeah which generation you gotta take the four Eskimos of that he can beat serious yeah I mean exactly yeah so Taylor by the way up by the weight also see now so don't mean this I'll be really angry ok so it's wrong it's done you know how was the iphone has the correct time unlike the android based phones what what do you mean you don't know this well I've been using my phone to tell time and it's an android device ever so you don't know explain why I'm always late that's great you'd be 15 seconds late every time why well but the bulk of the androids get their time directly from GPS satellites and GPS satellites the system was defined the timekeeping basis for the GPS satellites was defined up to nineteen eighty-two and since 1982 15 leap seconds have been added to civil time and those leap seconds are not included in the Android timekeeping because they're getting the time directly from GPS whereas the iphone compensates for this puts the 15 seconds back in and has therefore the correct time as a result most android phones are exactly 15 minutes too fast but 15 seconds did I say minutes all this yes seconds to 15 seconds too fast as interested I like having if I want to have a device that's awesome it's going to have the correct time that's your guys here wow you know check it out if you have any any couples here that have iphone android pairings dude dude check it out pass the time has to be sad should be set automatically though we don't not if you said it yourself has to be set automatically yeah no 15 seconds in the grand scheme of things not really that big of a deal all right but still there's the knowledge that it's wrong which is upset it is that is somewhat upsetting by the way by the way that calls to mind the distinction between precision and accuracy those two words have distinct and different meanings and science precision is how many decimal places can you represent in your in your measurement okay so let's go to Times Square and there's a clock that keeps time to a thousandth of a second so it's like running continuously all right you just a blur you said well that's real yeah that's that's a high-precision clock what good is it if it's 15 seconds fast it's completely pointless so it's high precision but low accuracy us you don't care about this 15 seconds and then so your girl if your lady here about the painting sec now I i ah you've opened my mind here you've I you've brought you this right I know but derived from the fact that the gravitational pull of the moon is tugging on our oceans sloshing them back and forth on the continental shelves slowing down Earth's rotation in the process and the response function has the moon spiral away from us several inches per year we back to talk about the universe because I thought we were talking about gadgets at all the next doll connection all right what's your what's your how many monitors you have it on you and your's okay so here so I don't want to make you cry but I do not even own an iPad you want a computer though I don't know that iPad because I carry my 70 17 inch with me wherever I got knock the proud back prayer all are you all mad I've been I've been max since perhaps before you were born yes possible I mean I think I think that's I think you just said something really flattering to me that I'm super young we're engaged since are actually the woman who would become my wife I had a Mac 128 and then we upgraded that to the equivalent of the mac plus so you swap out the memory snippet snippet resistor a romantic though so which he has a PhD in mathematical physics so that was working and so so so and I've been macking ever since and so yeah I mean go figure so here's the thing i got the iphone it's this big if i want to see video I'll go to my 17 inch I don't need to go through some intermediate state and yes the 78 weighs seven pounds but it's not seven pounds it's my computer you know I want to someone Gawker am i what no he ain't heavy he's my brother it's not it's not seven pounds it's my computer it's just it is it is of me extension yes yes it is it's went when I way to be a little uncomfortable when when this is how I knew why I asked someone what kind of computer they had said well you know I don't remember as it must not be a Mac cuz you would so know it if it was a man first of all second second uh it's it's I found that pc people when they use their computer it's like as a tool to enhance their work or whatever where's the mac it's not a tool it just is me it's part of me by the way so not you not whatever together Apple about to be clear I think about being together with it your when I'm not together like I miss it now you know I I do you need to go back yet listen I I wish we could keep talking because i feel like i could spend all night having this conversation we have not even i even there's so many questions I want to ask you will you come back on the show because we don't have enough time to ask all of them right now oh yeah I think so will you promise to come back I can do that okay we got to wrap up everybody stick around the other the other video here hey keep it going here we go
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