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E3 2013 interview: Scott Rohde and the PlayStation 4 (Top Shelf 013)

2013-06-15
and watching a console right here we are playstation 4 so this is the start of the next gen I'm crazy excited for this year what what do you think defines next gen what if you didn't know which console was running on or the hardware behind it you saw that games next gen that games not what would you say that is it to me it's it's about doing more of what we've seen on this generation so it's it's not just there's not some overall technology that's necessarily better but overall the PlayStation 4 is more powerful so for example if you wanted to attach a deeper physics model to every single enemy that was on the screen and you want a higher volume of those you can do that while you're also putting an advanced lighting model on the whole scene all of its bigger and better that's what people are going to notice you guys have gotten this really great perception of being the one for for gamers yeah what is it about the games that that made people walk away from these keynotes and think Sony's games are about gamers and Microsoft doesn't quite get it I think man there's a million ways to answer that question and I think a lot of it is just some of the culture that's come through from from a lot of the leaders in our in our group it starts for me with with shoe who is my boss and is genuinely a gamer I love to play games Adam who was on stage loves to play games so when we talked to devs it we don't go in with a spreadsheet and a calculator and say okay this is the profit margin on this game we're talking about game features and how it relates to movies we've just seen and how it relates to other games and did you see this did you see this mechanic in this game and did you try this not necessarily like game a B and C on PlayStation beat game a B and C on actually not it's just a pencil overall I think it's a general it's it's what PlayStation stands for I mean again I love to talk about this subject because you can say look at a game like heavy rain when it first came out not a lot of places would approve development on that game because it doesn't quite make sense on the spreadsheet but it ances our medium of games to a place that it hasn't been before sit goosebumps right so it's true right it's crazy it's me I won't be boys club its toll it's really I mean that right and and when shoe says that he means it when you know Adam Boyes goes out you know he announces transistor on stage right today there last night I don't get turns out at all I don't have any idea what that is but it but but but you did get that it was that it looked beautiful and different right so the point is the first time he sees that he comes back give sends me a text give me a call hey you're not going to believe how cool this looks right and that just kind of goes on we have to get this in the family and then dev see that passion in it it just becomes a two-way thing what would what happened emotion gaming for you guys it's not really here to show you talked about at the launch you talked about your technology for the eye but I've always seen one game here fact most of the PlayStation 4's aren't plugged in to an eye and I I think what is really the big issue for me is that the the PlayStation 4 is not shipping with the odd as a default well to answer the last question it's it's not something that we wanted to require our customers to purchase it's also not something certainly back to the previous point about about creative vision and kind of freedom on teams it's it's not something we wanted to mandate for every team as well so what kind of taking it one step at a time if there are great ideas that come from great developers either inside or from third parties or from our from from indys from you name it we actually embrace that completely but it's not something that we're going to cram down people's throats how did you guys feel when you got the say that word out loud or I don't know that it's because 394 the word the phrase that's 309 let's say it's a phrase so absolutely great I mean it was an amazing feeling so you know this client went nuts absolutely and we went nuts I mean we were kind Hooten just like everyone else because this plan has been in place for years you know developing a brand new console takes a long time so with a goal that 0 was kind of put in motion about three or four years ago you saw this at the februari event where we talked about how we talked to all the different developers you know what are you liking about the ps3 what would you like to see changed that's all real all that happened and our goal was to build the most powerful console at a price that was affordable and we set that target at 399 and all the great engineers in Japan mark cerny was leading all those teams everything all came together the game developers all came and said what they wanted we made sure there was you know eight gigs of the fastest Ram out there I mean all these things that developers wanted still manage to do all of that in a machine that was super slick looking and still did it for 3 99 that's why it's something it's a moment that we're very proud of and we were all that was accentuated when our competitors announced morning that it wasn't for 99 how did that so I mean were there high fives rounding are you kidding me up so so so so like a low fuzz okay well we were out we were all in rehearsals all day so at the at the sports arena where the the e3 event was the press conference so you know that some people are at the press conference everyone's got looking at Twitter everything's and as soon as it one ounce yeah there's running up and down the aisle woohoo you know makes our announcement that much better so I just wanted to clarify that the drm stuff there's been a little bit of confusion because you guys again to great applause I really feel like you paid attention to Microsoft's announcement too great applause you know announced on disk you're going to allow people that you know they're going to play used games and they don't have to connect to the internet all the time that you know be very clear policy Jack laid it out pretty clearly then you guys also said some stuff though about developers being able to set their own dr around i just want to you know clarify what what that means and also what the drm policies are for digital it's not that developers are setting their own damn i'm erm we we set a very clear policy about about physical used games and there's a reason that you know kind of that one-two punch just basically saying look the your games you bought them you can play them on your machine at home and you want to play the metra friend's house you take it to your friends house and you play the policy is very simple and we're setting the precedent on definitely how we want all first party games to act and for me personally i believe that you know why would it make sense right for anyone to come up with a used game drm policy that's that's that that that isn't fair to consumers well so so there are other ways that your guys's policies right now contrast with with the current gen or are you guys the same it's the same thing because we are seeing right in the current jam the current gen like this game comes with an unlock codes you get a special sword for the person first person who buys it or you know the online activation so that so that less than was it going to limit at all attempt to look is it two different questions so first question could a publisher come out with a special piece of content that is an unlock code that makes it more valuable to the first purchaser sure that could happen it still doesn't prevent secondhand sale of that game but I wondering if there's any new ways you're gonna try to discourage that or no it's not it's not a goal to discourage it I think we came right out and said that the online pass you know will go away because that's because it requires a PS Plus subscription to play multiplayer online does it make sense for an online pass to ask you to pay again it just doesn't make any sense right so that's that's why we came out very clearly and said that you know no more online pass okay yeah why does some playstation plus cost to play multiplayer people have been used to having maybe a subpar multiplayer experience on PlayStation and also having that for free so where's the where's the balance there now that you have to pay for my you're going to put it that way I think that that does cost a lot of money to run a set of online services that's what I'm at yeah and I think of the reason that you're moving that way yeah absolutely can be better at multiplayer absolutely okay you know if you're gonna put it that way tell me that you'll be better at multi before and I think that that is that is absolutely our goal you know we want to provide a service that's very robust and that offers you all kinds of great value and it there's other services there too and we're not going to do silly things like not going to put the movie services behind a pay gate because that doesn't make sense you already pay for it right so we're treating this as fairly as we can you know for all the customers out there and making sure that they get a ton of value and that they do get a better service at the end of the day is there any reason to believe that so that the PlayStation 4 will be any different than the PlayStation 3 as far as your guys's own entertainment services sony has this vast library of movies and music that no other publisher has and so let's take advantage of it let's find new ways to take advantage of it let's let's make that PlayStation customer happier than any other customer out there and what Michael did say on sage is that it's to his it's to his benefit that playstation 4 succeeds is that going to be connected to PlayStation Plus in ways that the people will be able to we're not announcing how all those things tie together I mean there's there's all sorts of different permutations what are there what does game or friendly content mean like what do gamers want I think what michael was referring to is that there's obviously when you think of kind of the stereotypical hardcore gamer you kind of think of a certain genre of movies I think that's what he was referring to this would be all the fast and furious if there's no zombies it doesn't make it on no it's it no but but in in that girl's name you know like okay yeah and I think who knows what that means I think that that gamers like a pretty wide variety of movies so Gaikai i think i know i assume gaikai was coming the game streaming was coming too at launch so what why is that being delayed or is that being delayed it's just it's a service that's going to continue to grow over time and I think that it's um you know still a relatively new technology and understanding how that's going to work with PlayStation content on not just playstation machines but on all sorts of other devices there's still a lot that that has to be worked out and that was Andy's point he was he was verifying that it be on on all devices you know your smartphone your tablet all that stuff but that it would continue to grow over time I mean a part of the family now and it's launching early 2014 yes that's what he knows and you guys talked about select classic ps3 games being playable over Gaikai we haven't announced exactly which I think Andy's just making a point that we're going to start there and again that that library is going to grow there's so much in the PlayStation library from 17 years I just didn't backwards compatibility has been something that has been over promise under delivered by everybody in the industry all the time yeah is there any reason to believe that it's going to be better this time what people will still be playing ps3 games because i don't know if i have room for a ps3 and a ps4 and xbox 360 xbox one in my welcome by the last two then so again that is part of the goal is that gaikai will not only reach out to a whole different set of folks out there but that it might satisfy some of that need to play some of your older games this is total tangent but I'm a huge twitch TV fan yeah when you get the notes you stream yeah I was really excited about that because I think that's I love enjoying games vicariously and watching you all the way it's cool but then Microsoft announced which and I'm at which guy yeah that's where I go every night which you know games me to sleep where you guys surprised that microsoft announced twitch streaming and do you think that's just obvious no that's obvious but I don't know that we were surprised either i mean this is this is an industry this is the week when everyone announces all their deals and associations with all these other technologies and companies so things happen I mean was Microsoft surprised when we announced redbox and flixster I don't know your service is a little different yeah and that it will you can someone can jump in and play your game right eventually through gotcha is that the yeah that is that is that is kind of a long term goal there it's pretty interesting it's pretty interesting idea I think someone is going to come and help you out with something you're having trouble with that's pretty neat and so that will all happen through the console interface you're watching somebody over their shoulder then you press a button yeah that is over yeah again and then that is the long-term goal this long-term goal and then will that happen when gaikai launches or maybe even longer than that not a hundred percent sure okay you said you get these sort of vertical slices of these games in their early stages and obviously these are all still pretty early are they there any that you get to have a good time ps4 crazy next-gen games that you can go into your office right now sit down and have a good time with I mean you can do that with everything that they saw at the show like those were live gameplay demos that you saw when you walked in last night so yeah all those games I can I can play those same sections it's just I can't wait until all that stuff is revealed because I'm really excited about how that looks in that game so absolutely all right all right your diva thank you so much thanks take it easy you
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