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i'm ross miller I'm Joss Topolsky and we are exhausted I'm Josh Topolsky I'm actually ross miller and we actually are exhausted this is a week and we completely bone the intro we're very tired yeah it's the the end of a long crazy hall we're almost at the final day here there is yeah there is today and tomorrow the shower but really we've got a lot done we've got a lot done we've seen a lot there's still more to come we actually have some really interesting stuff going up today but there's been a bit of whirlwind week it's been a whirlwind use a lot of their lot of sick people a lot of tired people lost a few good men lost women several good men and women and yeah I'm just like yeah I'm pretty bird yeah there's there is so much I've in it it's just thursday by the way it's just thursday but i'm pretty sure we've been six to 12 days doing yes no yes sir there's so much stuff in the shore floor and we barely been up keep track and Josh look I know you're a turn shoot the site you see everything we cover and everything goes on there yeah I mean it's been I mean yes that's the you know I try to keep track of everything but we've published a lot right a lot of news and I challenge you a challenging now with the new segment that we like to call five from the parking lot of the Las Vegas Convention Center CES 2014 it that run off hello and welcome to name that product a brand new game show for today and today only this is the pregame show we ask you just what the heck is that thing each contestant will have 30 seconds or less to figure out just what this product does now we've got four gadgets tonight we want to show off and we have our first and really our only contestant tonight he is an editor in chief for The Verge com Joshua Topolsky Josh how are you doing uh I guess I'm great I don't really know I don't know what's going on here but horrific are you ready to play uh no but I guess I'm going to have to so I I accept tournament whatever challenge it is that you have for me great that's wonderful Josh here's your first product okay this is a this is a okay this is a medical this is for doctors this is a device for doctors to be able to see inside just underneath the skin this is for nurses and medical technicians when they have to give a shot to someone they are that use this to see is that correct that is correct I really wow that is the V embarrassing I've never seen that before yep the veena veena glasses t through the skin I'm it's crazy stuff very interesting all right what I just want to point out how how incredible my understanding of technology is that I was able to just know what that was just by looking at it don't sell yourself Jess yeah we've got three more of these sir by the way is there a reason why it looks like I'm sitting in a sex dungeon of some type it's terrific TVB on back here here's probably Brazil ok this is a this is put you insert this into the rectum and it tells you it's another medical device inserted into the rectum and it tells you what your pulse is no you wear it on your head it goes on your head it's a device it tells you how hard your be no I'm so I'm so sorry that was actually the Reebok check light it goes into athletes helmets and checks the impact not does it go the rectum so were you telling me not the rectum ah as I was I pretty sure that's a rectum all right same item yah right you've got one out of two okay here's your third product yep let's do it let's do it this is it a paper airplane this is that note this is a paper airplane with a propeller on the back of it I'm just describing what I'm seeing right now okay this is some new like paper drone that has an app that you control using an iphone you can make your own paper airplane then you put this little clip on the back of it or something and then you know I think I think it's this close up it's a bluetooth powered paper airplane okay that's perfect I don't feel like I've been greatly challenging oh that's with you this is actually I'm clipping on the paper airplane and you can control us don't my telling you but I'm at a technology expert you know I think I think we might have I'm just already I'm owning you so hard right outside even funny alright well let's see how does it feel to be owned this hard it feels like everyday you out of two out of three months just like the often as meatloaf said that ain't bad alright this is it this is for pure domination job okay here we go here we go so I win something oh wait hold on that's a circuit board does her hands it's a hand it's a person's hand this is a breathalyzer this is a open source breathalyzer that anybody can it's got an open API oh no it's a fake this is a vaping product open source vaping babe digital paper is what this product is all right you know what yeah that's that's close enough they were two gates it's actually it's a biometric vaporizer and what it does is I called that yes it's basically doesn't like kids to it basically locks your fingerprint in I don't think it could be I don't think my dominance in the technology space can be can be challenged you know I think I think when we came with game shall we thought is really thought we hit a little bit less sleep so no I know I my own nightmare I mean I i I'm not clearly bowed down baby maybe I need to be on i-12 more often maybe that's the key here is this the end of the show so that is that is it for a product and look at all in all seriousness we've had a lot of crazy crazy gadgets out there but the one that we think the last couple years has really does change how they perceive the industry has been the oculus rift virtuality heads has impressed a lot of people they're back this year with a brand new version and you know for fun we thought we'd let the entire staff just kind of try it out and of course we filmed the reactions take a look good boy no my god oh my god oh my god what's happening oh my god oh my god oh this is this is this is I have to say this is uh I'm not able to do words right now holy crap wait wait wait wait wait wait a minute what the not good i'm totally hungover in this is sneeze a stupid this is like Hanukkah haha sorry I'm so giggly just whoa this is like being hugged but by a video game these guys are really cool got big bellies hmm hmm could you put them together I really want to pick these guys up like but I can't this is very disorienting because I can see my hand it's like I want to kill it hmm score from the Hayes Waits how do I kill this thing okay I killed someone you guys saw it all right ok I just want to kill things yeah yeah yeah oh I can shoot poop oh my got one I got that guy dude dude that's a table oh ok there's a table there this is amazing and I never want to take it off I mean I'm not going to take it off oh I don't want to leave this is the best thing no but no but no no no I feel amazing right now I really don't want to take this off of me welcome back to Vegas oh wow that's uh pretty incredible say I'm really jealous that I get to do the oculus rift this year yeah you were too busy Oh way there's a jet landed in the parking lot please excuse us you're just David products left and right I be really think you just use a airbus 320 actually outfitted with a dual hydraulic cylinder boost and that's not a thing I made that up that's it made up product well I think the 320s an actual plane no but really interested to see reactions I actually when we brought the new version in first off I like had already experienced at obviously a bunch of times so I wasn't expecting to have much of a reaction and a bunch of there were a few people here who never used it before right but several people had used it and so I thought well we'll see with reactions aren't and there definitely was like I I was actually kind of blown away because of the detail some of the stuff they've done the latency stuff they've addressed the resolution still not you still see some of the pixels but it's much higher resolution than last version and the the positioning the positioning tracking and now it now requires like a separate camera to write like yeah it has it has well it has an external yeah camera that kind of senses your your that's what those white dots are they write our communicate information to that sensor but but I was actually really impressed I I thought that it wouldn't be that big of a jump and it was a big jump and a lot of people here what was interesting is that the reaction was not the this like raw surprise of having never done it before but it was like they were so immersed in it there were a lot of people came out there like I don't want to be out here and I don't want to go you know I want to go back in and also there's a part of the demo where you see stuff flying around where people are like dodging it right and I think that because of the changes in latency and the resolution that feels so much more visceral than the previous stuff did right I'm curious like how how diminish the motion blur is too and like we've we did we have people on staff who do suffer from like cigna stuff we didn't get you a try it unfortunately yeah it was loved and seen the reaction ah actually it went bad I I mean the latency is greatly reduced which helps that there was very little blurring in to my eyes and you know it was interesting that the game that we were playing was a stationary game it was essentially like a tower defense game Ryan I think that and I spoke to the oculus guys and they really wanted to show off the rift as a device that you can use for gaming that isn't just FPS because there's a because there's a certain segment in fact the CEO Brandon told me there's certain segments of people that are just they're always going to feel some bit of motion sickness no matter what playing playing a really fast moving game like a first-person shooter and so I think they're now trying to get into this get to this point where they're showing hey look there's a bunch of different things you can do with the oculus rift you know there's it doesn't isn't just about like you're playing quake although you know quake pretty great in the oculus rift nothing they want to commission with the the the new virtual x2 we're like you can just run that place yeah we actually that's actually really cool that's something that we put up a report about this yesterday ellis hamburger went to try out this device we checked out last year which in it i think was in a much within much rougher shape it was i think was easy to connect since the virtuix virtuix omni yes and they are pairing it with the dev set of the oculus the current oculus rift which is much more layton and lower resolution right and doesn't have the position tracking and but now they're getting ready to ship this thing and it actually looks a lot better though ella said that he was extremely nauseous on it and like you keep you if you watch the video you could just see him like running in place a little bit kind of like disoriented like it yeah I do you think it's it's definitely looks like a better experience and it was last time yeah I'm sure the new heads that would probably help but now we're getting to the point where like I remember I was growing up in the 90s like there was a blockbuster arcade where I was living yeah and like they had the big virtuality machines this is a big deal for when I was growing up and it was just it to me it was super impressive like it was definitely some like you walked away just wanting to like throw up yeah so so that was so that's that's something we did yesterday we should talk a little bit about t-mobile had their their press event yesterday just by the way we should yeah we should I wish you a statement here we've been pronouncing CEO of t-mobile's name as John Legere yes it's apparently John ledger leisure yeah which sounds frightening Lee similar to John Legend right and both of them are at CES so it's a little confusing ah but one is an insane maniac CEO and the other is John Legend so it's pretty easy to tell them apart usually yeah but so yeah John I can't say it leisure John leisure tells us has like leisure yes John leisure or ledger got onstage yesterday denounced the tmobile was going to do was going to pay for your ETF your early termination fee if you're on AT&T right now he will give you three hundred fifty dollars to leave or whatever your etf fee is to come over to t-mobile right and also / lines if you have family they'll do it for up to five people on a family plan which is pretty crazy but you have to turn your device into them so they're going to take that device and refurbish it and resell it make it fully committed right exactly but you know what's interesting about what they announced yesterday which was really the only big announcement yesterday really was i mean wouldn't store the end right we're almost almost done with the shovel what's the interesting thing is they don't really talk about how they're building out their network you know dan seifert who is actually at the show got up and asked him a question about the network he was like why what are you doing about your net right being so bad and I think you know Neil I was like going crazy about this on the verge cast last night but I do think they what's interesting about the t-mobile stuff is that I think they have some really good ideas and it seems very exciting but they do have network issues like a tmobile stinks in my neighborhood and they're not talking about how they're going to address that part of the of the process and which i think is really important not to echo too much but Neil I was saying yesterday but is a chicken egg problem they need customers and money to make more antennas to get more customers and break right and then to do this they just need some catalyst to like get out of the chaos of course was these uncarrier plans was the brashness of the right it's this attitude which isn't just John ledger anymore it's also what's his name I think Neville his CT oh yeah Nevel what's up sorry what's his uh I like it I like his wardrobe here he's just like you know guys I'm gonna wear the pink t-shirt yeah like I don't you guys are gonna wear I mean he's got like this chain on it was a lot more dresses dudes wearing a t-shirt to like it's very casual look for the t-mobile guys they want you to know they're down-to-earth regular bros you can have a beer with them right a big deal me I has this theory that this is all put on that like you know a year ago he was this executive in it like a rating some short corporate raider like a in a suit with a short haircut he let his hair grow out became the John ledger that we we know and love and like the tough thing is like whether not he is if you're gonna be cynical about it are you gonna be hopeful but like the end results still somewhat the same yeah like it's still a more compelling plan ya know my creation is if you're right if you're in a great cover chair and you never travel like slam dunk right so so I haven't asked you this you and I'd like to know what have you seen at the show what's the most interesting exciting thing you see the show what's the lamest thing you've seen all right um well actually to be four of you guys I have been on the show for yet yeah you know the verge com I've seen the first time ever a show had I done the game I've been disputed closed because I'm owning everybody in my knowledge of technology uh you know I think the lamest thing is more is more of a category ideas just like it's this smartphones in journal because it's so ubiquitous so same see and it's not that it's bad I'm just it was just boring to me you know I was like him some more but the most impressive thing was was his idea and like it was it was Cosmo rise keynote is the very end we started talk about livestream UX and then he got at that speech about what Sony wants to represent like no more commodity where you know we're here for the high end we hear from aspirational I thought that was just a beautiful moment for something getting back on track yeah I mean it makes it a Kuenn I for the first yes I came here was when I Howard Stringer key knows where he brought dr. oz out he showed like classic very classic things and Kelly that was like well that was like peak CES like let's just throw that Liberty on stage and I used to love that stuff because it was just spectacle but now i'm really loving the sony stuff because they're actually trying to get back on track yeah and you're using the xperia phone I've gotta say I I'm a little little jealous about I have to say I really I really have I was get about this last night I really it's funny because we went to I went to a meeting with cause and there were a couple other journalists there I was the only person with a sony phone which i think is interesting but uh you know i think if they put the marketing in for this i think this actually could be really successful product i think it's i mean unfortunately they're only carrier right now for it is t-mobile but I actually think Sony is capable of making good products and this phone while it does have some bloatware on and some stuff that I don't like which you can pretty much any disabled all of it it's really good right you know and and it's well made and it's got a great camera you know there's some issues with the screen but they're not deal-breakers in any way but but Sony is capable of making amazing stuff you know I think whether you think the games are good for the ps4 is is clearly a successful console and it's actually an unfair president it's more successful there's one even though a large margin even though I would you know if you gun to my head like which one would you get I would get the xbox one's I think it's more of a cohesive solution and I know what I what but what caused her i was describing and what he talked to me about this this idea of the cloud TV service and uh and playstation now and things like that they really are talking about creating this this sort of completely connected entertainment experience which i think everybody talks about but i think sony could actually do based on the lessons they've learned over the last ten years of what not to do and go and what was so impressive like so obviously something had to press conference almost the very boring here's our new phones here's our new cameras whatever like that was a very disappointing press conference but the Asura thing was like look we think projectors in the home high screen images you can change the like what your wall looks like like that's crazy stephanie goes up by the way that is real and we are going to bet money and release it yeah i mean they they definitely got he definitely got the right the message right which is sony needs to be a leader we need to try crazy things we need to innovate and not just copy what everybody else is doing and I do think like for most companies that should be a lesson right it's it's you know the more the more Android for example got different from what the iphone was doing the lesson became like a grid of icons and just trying to ape what the iphone was doing the better it became as an operating system I think Matthias too aren't they had a lot do with that sort of pushing the design forward and I think like you see Google own in its own sort of design concepts in its own path and that's how they've sort of grown into the company they are right now I think Sony for a long time just sort of languished sort of didn't really know what it wanted to be or who it was and now they're like oh we're Sony we invent amazing things and I hope they actually end up doing some amazing things because of that that mindset I I agree with you that's it that was a really cool um that's really cool moment I have to say I I think this is this show was you know last year the talk was before the show buddy was like man it can be a terrible show CES is over why does it matter it was a really exciting show this year I think proves my eye brown editorial the last day of the year the upgrade the age of the upgrade which was about the our awareness of Technology and how it's become a really normal part of our lives and how we expect things to be upgraded you expect a phone to get a bigger screen or a better camera you expect your TV that there's going to be a new TV next year with smart TV functions or whatever and I think that my point of the editorial was what what interests me and I think what is increasingly interesting to most people is not the hey my phone got enough it's like you know they release new stoves all the time but you're not like oh man what are the stoves doing this year right because they become like a product that we're familiar with them are used to and my point was innovation doesn't happen on product release cycles and this es is a great example of innovation not happening on a product release cycle you know pebble they introduced a new SmartWatch last year we were really excited because they had this Kickstarter project that became a real watch and he's goodbye and it was really cool that it never really never been done before this year they have version 2 which is nicer looking and they comes in a couple of different styles but it's really the same watch right and they're just making iterative changes to and it's also like it's the same watch in a functional standpoint we are talking about form and the form the form has improved but but that that's the incremental stuff but then you see like hey we're doing curved TVs this year or everybody's got their fitness band because that's become a thing that is incremental that's not really that's not kind of innovation that you want to see but you can't do that crazy innovation every you can't have the new oculus rift every year and so I think we are in this period where there's going to be a little bit of a push and pull we're going to go through periods where there you know your smartphone is even get dramatically better it's going to get a little bit better but on the flip side we're going to have things like the Model S and you know bullet trains and doing infrastructure and energy initiatives and things that are like really big I think that you know that to me is reflected really well this year because everything here feels really small to me all of the innovation all of the announcements feels like totally incremental totally small totally not I would not say inconsequential just not deeply meaningful and that's like my takeaway from the show basically I'm just like I on a complete rant now no this is you're just sitting here comes i attain look I'm tired any I just feel like yeah we're both really burst we've done she's got a million shows while we've been here and and I think we have to wrap up because we're probably reaching our 25 minute we're a little of wherever are we over it okay I'm doing well well we did start 10 minutes late though still I am exactly 25 minutes according to my clock at any rate I think Roger Baba but um so so today we've got a lot more news that's going to happen we got some really interesting reports going up today and tomorrow so in-depth reporting on what's happening here to show some stuff that you really haven't seen yet and maybe haven't thought about and then tonight we've got a virgin mobile show right Virge cast I'll give us these because it very say the first cast after hours which will be the last one of CES unfortunately we are setting down the studio yeah so after after thursday night we tomorrow on friday to the kind of studio breakdown so thursday with this today will be our final shows from here from CS and you know it's a little bittersweet but also i'm extremely tired and so I'm very happy to not do any more shows you know we come to CS ever going week I can't believe doing this I'm so angry we come here we fall in love with it you're so happily by the Friday like this is great and then we go back to 11 months of dreading yeah I don't know i think by the end of cs I'm like I don't ever want to do this again by day bite by whatever let's see it'll be dave six for me or something tomorrow okay you know six days of CES is of doing all the planning and all the work and all the dryness of Las Vegas all the dryness yeah I'd like so much blood coming out of my nose down control and not from the coke abuse so okay I think that's a great way definitely no that's so that's the first thank you guys so much for watching we really appreciate the fact that people have tuned in like lots of people we've had a huge audience this year and that's awesome and there's a lot more stuff to come today so stick around Ross it's been a real pleasure Josh it was nice knowing you and that's our show I get there