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welcome to first at CES you know this is one of the most exciting times of the year the the type the type is all messed up I guess we'll just wing it uh Josh what did you think about what was the biggest trend of CEO so we're just worried it's gonna wing it I guess um you know CES is an exciting time there's that there's a lot of excuse me I'm sorry I'm sorry okay the first at CES 2014 I'm Josh Topolsky i'm ross miller and this is our morning show that we do every year here we recap the previous day's events and announcements we talk about what's coming today and and yesterday was a quite a day it's very busy he's quite the same thing is every year obviously this whole week is very see us with the official days today so yesterday's where all the companies dozens and dozens a press conference has happened yeah all the announcements are made to ya show floor there's no surprises yeah I mean and and monday is historically the previous day that we just went through is you know huge events lots of announcements lots of companies cheerleading their products and talking about their amazing innovations and all the new stuff is there everything is beautiful and wonderful yeah everything is everything is innovative and you've never before seen it and you know actually is probably something that's that's best expressed through showing you a little bit of it so so take a look at this good afternoon miss happy new year it's great to be here at CES 2014 you know 2014 really is the of the Internet of Things our theme for this year is with energy Oh possible this year is all about play we know you want one device for everything from what to play premium tablets for both work and play we are not just about commotion but emotion it's not just cutting edge technology but it's for serving a higher purpose making lives better this philosophy drives our innovations I believe this some z's innovation innovation this innovative feature couple other innovations innovation our new Wharf a handyman we have the zing boom park life ban touch fitness activity monitor about a hand for our 9000 series top loader front load of laundry pairs Tegra k1 the world's first 192 core processor this is the world's lightest aps-c interchangeable lens camera this could be the tiniest gadget Sonia has an LMA we are calling them throw devices Easter eyes when I'm calling the reference standard for 4k say hello to the Asus Transformer book you a kid need 300 so many products to play with in so little time to play what's true now on to the main event the all-important television category this year at CES we're going to hear about three other very important letters you HD ultra HD 4k 4k entertainment the curved shape a curved design curve the curve how does it how do you think it's gonna impact how he was experience your movies excuse me I'm sorry I'm sorry okay it's live shows folks so a lot of innovation happening in a nation have a lot of excitement over the lot of love making your life better you know I have to say just generally speaking the yesterday's announcement sweet sauce Samsung we saw LG nvidia was the previous evening the last really event of sunday night so that i'm kind of counting that who else did an event yesterday asus sony qualcomm intel right intel had something out and Johnson really really president but but but i will say that that that and I actual take Intel out of that makes a little bit but because I thought their stuff is very strange and interesting it's definitely liked by the numbers by the book I always think this year more than any yeah you've done this obviously longer than I have the person it was palmed for several thousand years ever i'm doing it up doing the CSO this thing started the 60s you've been doing it since the 20 I've been doing it since the since the 1620s which is what's amazing about it but very different scene back then but I remember like every year i've gone up into this year like there's always been some flagship product were like wow that's insane yeah first year I came he was a palm pre obviously last year was oculus rift yeah I which is a big surprise yeah so far we've seen nothing like that everything I don't think we've I don't think we've seen a slam-dunk product frankly I think the show this year and this is is is there is an admin flow last year we expected kind of a mellow show and I think we saw we got a lot of surprises this year I would say maybe our expectation of surprises is a bit higher and as a result we may be a little bit more disappointing with what we see I think that you can't have the same kind of show every year and so we'll have to see but but the other thing too it really I think we felt somewhat similar to this time last year also because the big announces we saw her from the smaller companies that don't have the big press conference right that's right and in fact a lot of them didn't have press conferences at all and oh you just said that didn't you I just repeated what you said any any reinforcements at any rate so so but one of the one of the big things at every CES is televisions right people I mean the companies that come here they have to talk about televisions they need to talk about child but we saw a ton of TV news yesterday you know in my opinion the most exciting if we're going to talk about a sighting TV development okay I feel like LG doing a webos television is the is the big one that's a very sad center for like the best new innovation because it's just a new interface to a smart TV which is basically them trying to get rid of the set-top box still claim input one so to speak right before someone else does for them well I think LG's doing some interesting things first off they're using a real platform you know they're not just grafting their stuff onto some weird proprietary build they throw on one TV then don't do it on the next it's not like this random smart TV software they're saying hey we have a platform it's called webos you can build apps for webos it's built to work well as with like html5 apps which is how all these companies are building they're building their apps for TVs or at least they will be for the LG TV and it has a real thought behind the way you you use it so you know here's a look at it right here and i think i think you know that's kind of a big deal the only problem is and we've discussed we discuss is on the verge casa and i think some shows yesterday you gotta buy an LG TV right not like they're distributing this out into the world for anybody to use on a television want iOS that you got to buying iphones that's not entirely unprecedented right did you have an LG TV I don't have um i have a panasonic kind of sams do you know anybody with an LG TV i don't i'm not saying people don't buy them but they get i don't i don't really walk in like a what TV is that because to me it's still it's just a black rectangle that puts that plays xbox and playstation right i I do everything I can to avoid the smart TV interfaces if this gets me to like at least curious them to try it out like that is a great thing for LG to pull off right I mean to me I'll take I'll take an innovation in software over an innovation like these curved displays that everybody was showing up right LG had a curved display yes and I wonder five inch curved display and I know they had was it hot was it 105 it was at the 85 I think it's 77 85 and 105 well at any rate they showed off curved displays which so far nobody has actually been able to identify why why we should be interested in curved displays I mean they've said there are reasons but I don't really buy them samsung at a curved display samsung dead who else was that it samsung LG battling it out for Sony did Sony do not have a perv TV so that's this is the other thing and then for que por que yeah which is which is more real this year than it was last year and I think probably the most interesting part of that is Netflix and Amazon buying into 4k in a big way and forming partnerships with a lot of these companies LG had Reed Hastings the CEO of Netflix come out and talk about you talk about the webos interface but they also talked about Netflix doing shows doing all of their shows in 4k right and they can die and i have to say listen to that like my first thought was like and we talked about a little bit yesterday there's no time warner cable there's no comcast there's no charter so any of those companies on stage with them saying yes we're part of the 4k revolution right know if you getting a 4k television you want to watch 4k content that delivery system is going to be internet streaming that's right because gotta be it's got to be streaming and you don't yet you don't hear I mean cable I guess presumably will come around to do in 4k over traditional cable lines over copper I mean I I assume they can I don't know why they wouldn't be able to they can do 1080 at least photo-optical I mean when you think about how artifact at 1080 or 720 is on on cable delivery I do wonder if that's even possible but the new standard is h.265 which is being built into a lot of these new televisions the industry seems to have agreed on it for for getting reasonably sized packets of data down to these televisions and these receivers and getting it on to your television but you know I feel like we're still I feel like Time Warner and Comcast are terrified of people asking for more bandwidth trying to push more bandwidth down there down the pipe and so I just I feel like we're still very far away on 4k TVs even though you're going to be able to start to buy them you can buy them now you'll be able to buy even more throughout 2014 right and maybe you have a better memory of this but I do know when the HD television start becoming a big thing obviously cable and not caught up yet you'd have to buy a special HD receiver it costed a premium yeah if it was available at all that's right um the infrastructure I'm hoping you know is there if not it's gonna be a huge I know the next five years that's brilliant I think next five years will lay the groundwork but it's going to be a slow climb or climb in my opinion maybe then then agents HD was slow at least in the US so so that's I think that's the main stuff for televisions it is there anything else that happen I mean the only the court you know the tangential to that at least somewhat sony did announce a 4k camera right so if it's not Amazon Netflix it is your home movies with you 4k camcorder which is two people say camcorder anymore I don't think they do handycam ago uh yeah what is a handset yes that's a brand name but you know interesting I mean there are 4k cameras in existence now there are plenty of them people are shooting 4k right now so that's not a huge innovation do they mention a price point I don't think some of the handicap line is generally that's more consumer right its consumer facing product if it's if it's cheap enough that would be really interesting right but we don't know yet I don't see why I don't see I don't know if that's a major leap for them because in terms of processing 4k you know cameras do that all the time I mean you can you can process higher resolution images I think the issue is the optics and they're probably cheaper optics in there so it could be a consumer level product for a reasonable price right of course in you've no witness it's always us trickle down all right it's gonna go professional to prosumer to consumer to your parents right so what else was it was was where the big story at six stories and it this does feel like almost a rehash last year so far the big story course again was wearable yeah but not just the wrist either and this is we're getting to Intel but bought wearables about sensor bed sensors there are no buts answers actually which is my to my frankly to my disappointment hello Russell you could assert into your pants the track your butt moon actually so r another thing russell brandom did a report earlier in the week with notch smart up it's a startup company uh they do sensors into your shirt the track your shirt movement I don't see why you could do his pants no yeah notch is interesting because there's almost a it's almost abstracted from this whole idea of a specific thing you put on like a watch or a band or an ankle thing there's no my ankle thing but uh bet that's called an ankle bracelet for blown but last year we started to see just the a taste of wearables and this year it was Sony and sams that Samsung have 0 or LG LG LG and sony what do you didn't really did they mention it that much I know they've had a SmartWatch for a while but like they talked about they touched on on where they have this tennis racket right it's his mark tennis racket which is very interesting you know but there is there is certainly Intel talked a lot about their wearables I mean where they wear their chips can go and what's interesting is that it was a cool idea last year and now this year all the major companies are either touting products that are that they're making that are their Fitbit competitor or you know they're FuelBand competitor or there at least talking about how important wearable technology yeah like and I think even like a gaming cover like razors like looking at smart as I they you announced that Nabu last night you know which is against a crazy company to think about doing this and what feels kind of off the mark is that we're seeing it for a record your data or gives you data it doesn't really tackle the input thing yet they need the right metrics right I remember we would see us avail Casey had found something that was very interesting like that I cameras like a VR thing oh the pivot VR yeah or is it veer side of it i think pivot view that's not never like you strapped this is cool i don't know if you guys have seen i thought this was kind of an amazing product it is in basically it looks like the thing from Elysium in a way that the like the body mod or whatever but it tracks your body movements attracts your arm movements and it looks really really natural i mean you can see there's a little bit of lag but you know that you can see Casey's arm is shaking a little bit and shakes in the in the in the game and i gotta say you you match this with by the way they also have leg attachments apparently and this is not that expensive it's jacked in the back of his head that yeah because elysium thing yeah but i mean you you you that's good no you match this with with an oculus headset I mean that to me is I mean this goes beyond wearables this is a crazy you know body immersive experience for you when you're playing a game we're doing all sorts of things I mean this doesn't have biometrics right this is just straight up for games train up for you can imagine a situation where you have something like that you're tracking your biometrics you're playing some sort of like activity game or exercise thing or you know whatever sports game on your 105 inch curved TV you know and not the heart guys like something I remember valve saying six months ago when they looked biometrics and obviously that's a company that just thinks about random stuff all the time yeah but the ID like if we check your pulse and you start getting more scared in a game we can actually make the game effect right no I mean I think that's a really cool and exciting idea i mean even playing dead rising on the xbox one you know there's a there's a feature where you can say you can scream over here and the zombies will hear your voice that's pain come towards you and you know at first i was like well this is a weird gimmick like i'm not really buying into this but then after doing it a few times i was like wow this really is adds a whole new dimension to the game I mean you do you are interacting with it in a way that you would have never been able to do before and it has a real visceral impact on what's happening on screen so seeing stuff like this I mean I think it's it's you know we're talking a lot about wearables things like pebble watches that will actually had a great showed off a great new watch alright very fashion-conscious yeah i mean the the second pebble that called the pebble steel is definitely i think a huge upgrade from the previous device they did but you know we're talking about wearables like that smartwatches and fitness trackers there's a smart toothbrush which is not really a wearable but i think falls and oh yeah well we had me the for class trips we need something like that i right hey this is definitely the follow-up to the for ya but but but when you think about how you could apply some of this technology to experience as a gaming or driving or you know activities that aren't just strictly like hey I'm exercise and I'm sleeping here's what I wonder about wearables okay America is not no I'm just speaking as an American America is not known for and as a person who's not known for this not known for being like real into fitness and being healthy right i mean at least in the last like 30-40 years right we sort of been on a slow march towards morbid obesity across the nation so i just wonder like we're making we're making all these fitness devices all these tracking devices i mean i bought what was the we thing of the the value step on a balance board i bought the balance board I used the balance board for like a month and then I was like the bounds more went under the sofa Brandon never slid back out I the balance board is now there's a pile of pennies discarded fur it looks like there's another Chihuahua underneath the sofa that is just for coverage of balance board so like I wonder what I really wonder is people are buying the FuelBand they're buying fitbit's clearly there's a people think there's a market for it there seems to be a market for it or do people actually want to use these for extended periods of time are they going to commit to using these things because it would be kind of awesome if we start thinking about that stuff I mean if we are if we become a nation or even a species of people who do and this is the quantified self idea do we care to numerically count our steps are calories you know and I'm unashamedly while those kind of people who I do track calories all the time and Rihanna steps but the calories you to input your food intake right yes that's one of the does that is like that is the most annoying thing but you think you think this is a trend that's a real trend I don't know I feel like we're still in this kind of halcyon days of wearables because the design isn't really ubiquitous people don't know where they want to put it if anywhere right I'm this kind of rates the Intel keno which was the most interesting keynote yeah Intel Intel showed us some sign with some of the stuff they showed off yes uh jarvis jarvis beautiful i know you have a list we can go down your list if you want no no this is great let's do I want to hear I went to hear I don't wanna Jarvis okay right yeah well I mean I let me explain what Jarvis's I it's just it's it essentially it feels like a bluetooth earpiece but it's one that has kind of an AI it kind of works with you on this right it's essentially the iron man jarvis it's it's like Siri if there is i guess i mean a serie if Siri were just in your ear it's almost like the movie is almost like her right in the innocence that it's like this companion that is speaking to you it's like a personal conversation you're having you know I haven't seen that yet by the way full you know I haven't seen it either so but I've seen the commercials and yeah I feel like that's enough that's enough to know what her what happens in her they die they all dying right right spoiler alert I don't know too soon coming na i die this is getting gonna day I die great question but no they and I think the reason Intel is doing this I think this is a way to sponsor don't we touch your answers canon a I'd I love to hear what you think hashtag verge cat go ahead no no this is not verge casket i shagged first ! that would be great okay uh nobody also were like this is somewhat of a business thing 24 in telekis until dominate the pc market the screw the pooch on mobile and that's become a big thing you know this is intel getting ahead say we know wearables will be a thing we don't know what it looks like you know well we're going to set the ideas and then if you want it look we know how to do it so just please use us well i think this is interesting you see Google saying hey google glass you're going to wear this thing on your head you're going to get information in the corner of your vision you know you've got apples take thus far is hey you're gonna have this personal assistant on your phone she's going to give you all this information Google is also doing Google now so it's a little bit of that you've seen some you know you've seen some of these devices the watch is where they're trying to say like don't be looking at your phone we're going to find better ways to give you certain types of information this is an interesting take on it where there's no screen there's no there's no interface beyond you know the conversation you're having I mean obviously there is a a verbal interface so I think it's an interesting take I just love the idea though that you're gonna be I will be having a conversation we talk about distraction right if you've ever tried to listen to two people talking at the same time it's basically impossible so I love the idea that we'll be having a conversation and Jarvis is going to be updating me on some some very important information and it's like will be a will be completely okay or even more compelling didn't talk about this but I feel like what they're especially even more compelling is auto translation and this is I'm like Jarvis could actually like translate lives talking job listen well that would be amazing I mean it will try things like that but I mean I mean if this device had the ability to pick up audio that well and could in real time process it and deliver the translation I mean that would change that could change like how we watch movies friends right you know instead of doing instead of watching films will change how we learn languages instead of watching films with subtitles you may just be hearing the dialogue read back of course I guess it's like dubbing so that doesn't mean ad Jarvis is a better dubbing but you know dubbing is wack okay I mean it looks horrible and it sounds horrible but it might be a totally different thing and this is the thing what Intel like it wasn't a consumer focus event as much they had a couple things but it was more it was like vision aspirational get dreaming and most of the things we saw where this is the next phone you probably to buy in six months that's the next tablet you might get so it wasn't as interesting because these are very familiar ubiquitous products right the exception being in this is we're getting to the transportation stuff and you like you did a lot of us of to its automotive yeah its weight on before we remove what else what else it intel announced or what are they talk about that the one big adjutant he did and this is we hired rumored was there an initiative to put windows and Android right this is this is a thing this was another thing that happened yesterday is asus did this android and windows they're like you can have an android tablet and a windows tablet and a windows laptop right and an android laptop i guess if you that's a thing that you want which I don't know why you would and Intel is is pushing for this as well I this to me feels like the the touchscreen laptop movement the convertible like hey it flips into a tablet and now it's a laptop like I don't really believe that that's how people want to use these devices I think if you at the right side screen which is a smaller screen and a great doc for it you can have a tablet experience that becomes a slightly more laptop like tablet experience and I think you can have a more simplified laptop but I'm not sure that that people necessarily want a device that's trying to do both things and I think that when you try to do and I think that that in a way Microsoft has shown there are real problems with this and when you try to do both things right it becomes you compromise it does feel like allies were like for a fact like the windows 8 form factors that just did not sell right they're like oh we got this right we have this 13-inch yeah the 12 inch form factor laying around why don't we put android on it then maybe we can sell some of these things which is you know maybe we're being cynical but I do feel that there again it's like is there a market for this product how do you create a market for it I mean my experience is I like a smaller tablet and a small laptop and they do very different things so anyhow so the other big story of the show transportation that's where you were going that's what I'm going to it cuz that one is someone aspirational but it also feels a little more actualized we're about to get in this field were like you know self-driving cars is a big thing those are trying to get approved really fast you did the Toyota i-road would ya fascinating I took I took this this I rode device and we've got a story up on the site and a great an amazing video the I road is a three-wheeled they say to passenger that it's really like one regular sized human and a kid or something your your regular size team or what Toyota's or what sorry I said which was to Homo sapiens from Japan as the most politically correct very very play the record this so this thing is actually really cool what did is there meant for car sharing programs essentially how we have city bikes in New York you can grab take somewhere and then drop off they're going to start doing these in Asia and Europe it's a three-wheeled leaning vehicle does about can go about 30 miles an hour top speed Wow and I think 50 kilometers is the range so it really is just an inner-city commuting or you know from a short trip from the suburbs to the city but it is so much fun to drive it's a lot of even for and I'm a big guy like I fit in okay it's a ton of fun to drive and when you think about if you could imagine a city where let's just say half the cars or replace the people who are commuting around the city half the cars or replace with devices like this I mean it's also all electric obviously well not obviously not often this is that's an ocean development tube yes tell you how fuel cells as well yeah like that's gonna be a big story about a fuel cell announcement I believe yesterday and you know there's clearly look automotive is changing I think Tesla has has really realized the imagination for what can happen in cars and you know Google with the self-driving car audi last night showed off a self-driving car that is they had stuff last year they showed us it's apparently even more advanced this year but there are is transportation is getting really interesting people are taking it seriously and it's not just hey we put a bigger more interesting stereo or GPS unit in the car it's we've changed the way you're thinking about about driving I mean Audi's idea is that you'll be in traffic and the car will switch into will switch into some mode where it drives for you so you can read a book or exact take a phone call or do whatever even like to get set back this one we know is gonna have the 2015 Corvette yeah there's display is basically gran turismo which may be a little black they kind of gamma phi little makes me a little nervous people are like feeling this is Gran Turismo yeah I mean people will definitely abuse it yeah but or they'll start playing grantors that's any more boring that's problems with humans really with what Chevy's doing but but but we have this this Audi right do we have a clip of though so also to set the stage first last year did the self-driving car with the Audi but it's really in a parka Ziggler went to do an Audi demo and they and he got in the car and it parked itself yeah like okay that that is very very like fascinating like we were all amazed by it yeah this is obviously want to show off a little more so Chris got to do a few extra things with it this year yeah well you just we should show this so here's Chris test driving or test riding the newest the newest version of Audi self-driving vehicle this chris from the verge and today we're looking at a pair of Audis you're definitely not going to find your local dealership wonder eyes for you one reads traffic light over Saudi has worked with the city of Las Vegas to wire up all of these streetlights so that they're actually downloading information about the programs that the streetlights are running on the Reds the greens in real time and Audi is calculating when the lights are likely to change the engine is currently completely off the car has start/stop technology and because it knows when this light is going to change the red to green when there's five seconds left the engine automatically turns on so we're ready to go normally with a start/stop engine the only time then turns on when you let your foot off the brake and then there's a little bit of a delay before then just ready to go with this by the time the light changes you can press the gas and you're good to go and one of the great things about the car being able to the tech when it needs to start the engine is that if you're not paying attention the stoplights you're looking around you can feel the engine start you can feel it on the pedal the brake pedal you can sort of here then gin a little bit so that kind of gives you a reminder that you need to start paying attention with lights about to change from red to green the system is only live in a few European cities right now and it's very difficult to scale because every major European city does their traffic lights differently it's a little more homogeneous in the US but it's still a huge task to try to take in all of this traffic light information collected in a server farm and in Germany and process it can get it out to all the cars so this is a slow process the Las Vegas deployment just receive yes of course but over time hopefully we'll see this more clothes later we took their the highway to see what happens when you fall asleep while your self driving cars slugging along in a traffic jam okay here we go please watch the traffic around me because this is pretty scary lego so it says driver attention please take control of people after five seconds starts bring down and image slider on well just switch to switch back off again something's happens still in development that's a that's a loud beep the idea is hard to ignore and it's absolutely we want the driver to know that he's supposed to do right it uses a variety of sensors both inside and outside the car to make this happen inside there are cameras but actually keeping on my face I fall asleep the card text that atomically shuts off the piloted driving and if i take too long to take to pull the car you'll actually bring it to a full stop put on the flashers and call the cops so there you have it just like last year out is throwing a lot of new technologies yes and neither of these technologies are ridiculous notions that want to receive away today they're real and there's good reason to think they'll be in production person so pretty incredible I mean it yet nobody I think there's this this feeling of safety because you got somebody behind the wheel there but when you see them just like taking their hands off the wheel and there's like an 18-wheeler whizzing past them it reminds me that you're in a scene from fight club or like they just like over the week yeah crashing yeah it can't look like a chef it's not it's not crashing no it's like very boring it comes to a stop yeah no it's pretty incredible and that'll be that hasn't we haven't put that up the video up as a standalone yeah no that'll be in like an hour that'll be that'll be up on the site in just a little bit so you guys can rewatch it and it's a really cool report from Chris so I think that's that's kind of the show we have a lot of stuff happening today this is the first of the first we'll be doing them throughout the week and of course later tonight we'll do the verge cast after hours and I don't know if we don't have any live post show events today no but we do have one more interesting thing right now obviously we're we're doing the show while Cass riders kino an apology's for that of course yeah if people are watching both thank you yeah there's there's if you didn't know there's a cause for a keynote going on right now that we're covering live but it as an apology I Mia culpa for us the Sony president news lien president mike Fasulo will be here he's this is first interview ever as sunny president yeah very cool he'll be here in the studio in studio live with Daniel and Neil I will be doing an interview with him and that's in it's about eleven o'clock when I say 11 but I will say you're literally going straight from the hour and a half but we'll have to see what their schedules like over there but so yeah and well and by the way we'll have a bunch more interviews and hands on all kinds of demos and stuff from the studio here like I said verge casts at night first will be happening every morning than 90 seconds on the verge of course every day so plenty of video lots of video coming from the verge that is first and we will see you guys tomorrow morning take care