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2018-04-10
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Gregor the Verge's gadgets show I am Nilay Patel sadly Paul Miller is not here with us today he's sick send Paul your best wishes he's at future Paul on Twitter but we have a packed show for you we're gonna take your calls at the end of the show and gadget emotional support tech emotional support that number is 184 for for emotions to start thinking about where I could fix your problems are just gonna help your heart really in your soul we're gonna play with a bunch of levitating gadgets which I'll tell you your personal completely ruined me so that's gonna be exciting for everyone except for me but to kick it off I'm Garten burgers here mm-hmm Stefan Sen is here he's interviewing a lot of gaming laptops for us they're gonna talk us through some of the coolest gaming laptops in the market it's just Stefan I think of gaming laptops is being big and stupid and huge and crazy these are not what's going on here where we go it's part of a new revolution in gaming laptops there are two things going on one there's razor producing what we like to call the windows MacBook Pro equivalent a MacBook Pro in this color I'd buy it just straight up so what razor has here is a GTX 1060 that's a pretty decent graphics card you can play most games at medium high settings on it any problem is they offer different screen options which change how much capability you have because a graphics card has to work harder to push in that display you can buy 1080p display with the high refresh rate which is what I recommend if you're gonna play games on a razer computer yeah but this particular one has a 4k screen limited to 60 Hertz you really won't ever max out any video game on this it just can't handle it but that's why we have other systems like the zephyrus we have a macbook pro over there right I just want to point this out because razors everywhere people love them this is pretty popular and almost every other product they were very unique design sensibility they do well we're about to look at a touch yeah right there's no denying what definitely there's no denying that this is just a black version of this one and this is a 15 inch screen this a 14 inch but it's a pretty screen and it's also a touch screen which the MacBook Pro does not have mr. so razor actually fix the bezels on their smaller one - they have the blade stealth which is the 12 inch one there's one now and that's like the 13 inch body and they completely fix the vessel on that they just haven't shown shown that love to the blade over here but yeah you got so that's my main vessel delayed it's out of date compared to the other systems that we're looking at and that we have here it does have a decent support selections you have hdmi USB 3 you must be but that's about it that's all you get updated this is still like a different class of laptop these guys right so you're telling me earlier there's a big difference between this and yes razer does make gaming computers but these are really more enthusiasts these have all the ports and they're using a new technology that nvidia calls max q mm-hmm it's what allows you to take big graphics cars I tend to go into really big seven eight pound systems and put them into slimmer systems that you can hear in a play there are five or six pounds they're sort of more manageable yeah and they're usually in the 15 inch range okay so this is the first one we're looking at this is the Asus zephyrus first-generation uses a gtx 1070 just like the organ over here but it has one thing that a lot of people have mixed feelings about and that's because the keyboard is moved to the very front on the laptop and I hate this keyboard I hit this keyboard I use this computer for a week and I Paul I feel bad disparaging this keyboard cuz cuz Paul is supposed to be R to defend it and Paul loves this I love this keyboard I use it for a cup I get it I get it I love it I like it I like it because for gaming it's closer to the edge which works for most gamers and in this case you've never used this touchpad to play games you'd probably use something like this so it's more in line res most laptops you'd be shifting your shoulders and would be a little bit awkward so it works here yes this is actually we're odd but it's something that Asus does to give you access to a numpad it sort of works on the touchpad why would you want a numpad anyway well some people use Excel it happens how much is this thing so this one SPECT as it is is about $2,100 yeah this also you see the keyboard the light a keyboard backlit keyboard yes white ringed around here this is all very gamer this is all very gamer friendly these keys are tuned to be used in games like League of Legends and wsad is using every other video game so it's pretty suitable I have to say this thing this whole thing seems horrible to me I'm just I played one game G on it earlier on your account I will say it wasn't even a good death I just comes out of a car this is all how's the video this is all - how's the video card and more importantly to cool the video cards so one special thing about this laptop that we don't see on any other system is if you raise it and you okay yeah I got it you can see that there's a little bit of airspace corrected yeah right here and if you plug it in this also glows red so it also has an aesthetic purpose to it the only problem with it is this isn't is a removable panel which is very flimsy and it's pretty poor plastic so this will warp over time wait this reflects it so it flexes if you cool it you gotta open it open it yeah it rises up yes and then there are you seeing this yeah it flexes that's great that's my other theory why the keyboards on the bottom because if the keyboard was up here and you were typing on it it would be like typing on a sponge-like yes if you push it hard enough you slow the video card damn I hope I will say by the way on the keyboard they changed in the new one they have a new one we're gonna get to it well gets with anyone okay what's this third one so this one is one that we look February this is Connie or than Evo 15s and it has the exact same specs of the Zephyrus same processors send them out of RAM and same graphics card and the same screen the only difference is it's much better built and as you can tell there's not as much flex yeah you can also make different lighting zones on the keyboard in case you're into that kind of thing it has a fingerprint sensor as well there you see use Windows what yes you can use me those hello it's windows a little compatible and it has a lot more ports than the Zephyrus it has an Ethernet port a couple extra DisplayPort can I just show this yeah so Paul came by earlier that's like look at that that's like a good selection of that's like pro level support to sees I will stress though that unfortunately these USB C's don't carry power they're only for data ok so how many how many USB C cables would you need to charge it gaming is the question I would like someone to answer and that's what's the refresh rate on the screen so they're both 120 Hertz and then the razor is just it's just at 60 because it's 4k but the 1080 can go higher than that so if you buy the razor you would buy the today's I would buy the 1080p screen and save a couple hundred dollars yeah so what's the catch these look and sound great they're so thin they're light they're faster than the razor and they're a little more expensive but like what's the catch the catch is the battery life is terrible the Zephyrus tops out at 2 hours maximum that we're talking power saver 1 chrome tabs it's ridiculous and the origin is a little bit better at three hours but you won't get on a plane flight with this if you need the power brick make is any gaming laptop will never run at full clock speed without its power brick so you would never game on the go really which is kind of counterintuitive but it is what it is yeah so I will say in a chat who's he says this thing is hideous true and then the legend legend you didn't do a great job of typing here but he says get it just get a gaming desktop so why would you get one of these as opposed to just building out well $1000 it's really hard to build a desktop right now because Bitcoin mining has made it possible to buy a graphics card on the low it's just impossible it's a creeper to purchase a system that's pre-built than it is to build your own which is sad because he used to be cheaper used to be the other way around so the are you really that straight on I'm putting it straight in script oh yeah it's a straight pick one thing it's it's like a full of thing people buy them in bulk and then there's no it's supplying the man yeah how's Lois applying how to demand so you're saying that manufacturers have allocations yes exactly and gonna desktop like why should I not buy a desktop or pre-built this time well it's not a laptop you can't take anywhere it's just so this isn't more so like a portable desktop but not a laptop because it's not convenient in the way that the laptop traditionally is so this origin I can set it up at home it's ready I connected to my monitors but I can bring it over here and experience the same stuff and play the same games on a pre decent screen as well yeah okay so tell us what's happening so these are kind of a generation these are kind of a generation back because Intel announced some new hexa core processors that are coming up pretty soon and we're gonna be taking a look at them in the coming weeks they're really exciting because they're bringing hexa core technology to laptops which we've never really seen before only really in workstations so first and foremost we have the Acer nitro which is gonna be a pretty powerful system it'll come in both i7 and i7 + configurations one will be quad core one will be hexa core and overclocked and we'll have a 1050 TI which is kind of a really low graphics card considering they'll have a really powerful processor in there but that's why you different have different options gigabyte on the other hand is gonna start producing the air of 15 X which has 144 Hertz display and a gtx 1070 just like these two systems over here yeah what's super special about the gigabyte though is it's the only laptop screen in the whole upcoming lineup of max-q laptops with the hexa core processors where they pay attention to the color quality on the screen so it's a hundred percent srgb certified you know it's great for designing it's great for gaming it's really the closest all-around we have right now that screen also just looks really good yeah it's practically it's compared that to the razor a minute ago that horrible webcam placement yes horrible but then if you're using a webcam on a gaming computer are you streaming no sir you did you gotta have your own you gotta look like a dedicated so yeah this one is atrocious it's the Odyssey this is there's that keyboard place ever been made they learn something from Asus because ironically enough we'll get to this later the new zephyrus move the keyboard to the right place this is they moved all of the designers at Samsung to the phone team and then my Steve was left over and he is he the sharper image is this looks like if you googled gaming laptop this would be the first for know even like a huge gaming laptops they had a sense of purpose I mean it needs a dragon there's no like a glow about it's a beaut x10 70 144 Hertz screen and also a hexa core it's just if you want a Samsung version of everything we've been talking about but yeah that's that the Zephyrus now this is a lot of that really excites me because to me this is the perfect one that's coming in and they're so they went away from the keyboard yes so this is this main successor to the Zephyrs over here is called the Zephyrs M it's still 15 inches it moves the keyboard to the correct place but more importantly while all these systems are using different variations of max Q and Max P which down clock processors to fit them into smaller systems the Zephyrus is using a full size 10 a set of 70 sorry so it you get more bang for your buck and it still retains the same footprint which is really special no one else is doing it and the way they're pulling it off is using the same flexing Auto cooling system that the Zephyrus uses where if you open it and the bottom raises itself apparently there have been mates they've made some improvements where the bottom plate doesn't flex yeah and it doesn't have all the issues that we move that keyboard up yes yeah so that's pretty cool we're gonna check that out and hopefully it'll be as good as it sounds there's palm rest beautiful thumb yeah we got two more what else we got so the rugby 703 this is if you want to go all out and this is not a portable computer this is not a max Q computer it's a full-on DTX 1070 with the hexa core in there and of 144 Hertz display it's ridiculous it's heavy is if you want to throw all your money at the problem and you really really don't want a desktop yeah dramatically chunkier then yes the ones we've been looking happily weighs around 10 pounds don't call about that when last but not least we have the digital storm equinox it's sort of like an interesting middle ground so it's a hexa core very similar to the origin it has a very similar keyboard design and vent placement mm-hmm but it also has a 1070 GTX processor and 144 Hertz screen you can upgrade the RAM and you can upgrade the story pretty much those core specs remain the same the only difference with all of these manufacturers besides Asus Samsung and Acer's that digital storm is a boutique manufacturer so they're much smaller their customer support is a little bit more tailored but you know different strokes for different folks if you want something like that it's available yeah well what are these all coming out they're coming out in the next couple weeks and we're gonna be kicking them out within the next and you know you're doing a bunch of those all right well thank you so much for coming on hi and thank you so much always what's not here but I can't stop the man from making videos check this out and we'll be right back I've been told that my last logo for hot tips did not look like a flame so just trying to just trying to please everybody Hot Tips part to take that haters good that logo I've heard that you have a hot hot - I'm collecting hot tips okay I can give you a hot tip but I have to give credit to dieter in the first place well I was getting really annoyed because every time I plugged my computer into my monitor I would have to redo all of my windows I'm very specific about why windows go where although I will say that this orbit setup originally gave me carpal tunnel which is why I have every hot is risk free you got your safety you got your monitor but your windows they're everywhere yes what do you do so I use an application called Divi okay div V Y so whenever I open this up and things aren't 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you draw Europe because I was gonna test you on that is it kinda like a square oh yeah so these these little accessories what Dan was calling those talking to him earlier he calls it a duck foot or a duck something I don't know but this thing is obviously proprietary this is Apple it only fits on these Apple adaptors yeah but what's nice is that lots of other devices that are powered like this was really his happiness is not set up this is Neel eyes desk as this USB multi adapter these things can actually be plugged directly in and power your devices that is astonishing to me it's incredible so sometimes I don't know if you forget it or because I travel with multiple pieces multiple cables to adapt this to European or US if I happen to forget it I can always pop it out and I can grab some local power cable and I can still even though it's not proprietary doesn't match the Apple thing it'll still power the device you got an extension cable so many possibilities it's incredible I'm really excited how do you what do you think what here's Europe our tip here's the plug if it looks like an Ethernet cable going into the power yeah that will kill you Oh new hot tip don't plug in two for the price of one it is really something to have a hobo just wander around our office alright Ashley and Jake are here circuit breaker because it's truly ridiculous you guys are tasked with covering your gadgets for circuit breaker a lot of new gadgets happen on Kickstarter and one of the hottest kickstarter segments is that floats it's really weird yeah like every couple of weeks it feels like there's a new floating thing out of case there they all get funded amount of floating plants yeah but yeah I just like back the math envelope and they raised like a hundred and forty thousand dollars on average which is like Wow every like floating gadgets in general I that was based I'm gonna say look back I'm at a back-of-the-envelope but yeah most cake serves raise less than ten thousand dollars so thanks but if it floats it floats you're gonna that's a good idea naked yeah people love floating stuff I think it's just like I mean it's the perfect Kickstarter think it looks appealing you don't have to think about it and then it doesn't really work all right walk me it so you you've called in a bunch of floating yeah so all of these pass through some crowdfunding platform I think may be the place to start is this light bulb by flight okay they've kick-started a handful of these they have raised 1.6 million across three different floating wait wait this has raised 1.6 this company has raised million dollars selling floating things on Kickstarter is it various floating's are all light bulbs I believe they are all light bulbs just wireless power yeah so this is pretty much how they all work there's a base there's some magnets and including an electromagnet which stabilizes it and in this case they don't all have wireless power but this one it uses wireless power to get the light to light up and that's it it's actually it's really simple there are two LEDs in here that's not real light bulb this is two little LEDs yeah we get that ball came on here this is just like a clear plastic tube with LEDs under it so one of the things that I sort of picked up on as I got more and more these things that they're they look really slick in you know photos and videos that they post online and they're definitely not like you know front from afar this might look really cool but then you get a person you realize well this is plastic not glass because you don't want to accidentally knock it and then it'll go flying which is gonna happen because it's being suspended by magnets the light isn't really filling out the fake bulb because it's just too little LEDs it's weird like there's this hidden button specifically like an inch over from the corner with no markings on it the entire aesthetic of this is like early eighties cocaine yeah I just don't I don't get like is this supposed to be to impress a date guys really have this right i I understand you're like okay yeah I mean that's what this is Pistons right this is like this is like the piece in your apartment like how much is this ghost I mean I would you pay for this right ladies what I just led this is like a novelty but also like a little sculpture 100 360 $60 yeah I see I'm gonna pray over to $69 sorry what happens if you which is crazy this is it it takes a while to learn how to float these things I want you you have not successfully floated this yet that's the verb I'm using float okay I think this is the part they don't show you in the Kickstarter video definitely not once you get it up there it stays up there mostly but if you kind of bump it it will go and and it just plunk sit down every time you actually comes with do you try the little helper setup Jacob wants to do without obviously it's all about few minutes you have to talk to the magnet it's true they can spawn you kind of feel it yeah yeah you hear that's one of the things I've become very comfortable with everything you should not be able to hear the things rumbling well I'm gonna keep trying to see your the power brick on this one buzzing which would felt so yeah one of the earliest floating things I saw was the crazy it was crazy babies Mars speaker who's that people go people on the chat we're actually surprised in it's real yeah no it's okay um we have made it float before you lose is not floating currently and kind of just you know a good example of how these things work this was supposed to do the floating on its own so you don't have to position it we'll see what happens here I don't think this is actually starting up right now it's I have no idea how to actually get it to start and when it does start it doesn't work it's on right you gotta hold it down mmm I'm not sure I first several days classic sugar breaker when it starts up it will make a whirring noise and then it will clunk to say oh that's it that's the show everybody watching now we can move on to you to your next challenges so there's also a company called levitating exonic this year that is capitalized on this sort of floating craze the fading pillow yeah so they kind of realized well we can just make a common base yeah and then put a bunch of junk on top of it so this is a cup and yeah is a cup this is a pillow you suppose put like jewelry or something on that really is the only good use case I've seen here is like a jewelry a tacky jewelry shop Elin look at our engagement look at them sparkle like that makes sense to me actually yeah I think that is probably the big use case for these right it's like you're the phony cup is the thing I was most excited about because I thought I don't know do you serve people with this to use it as a coaster and I want to know okay Jake yeah I want to see Jake drink out of doors wait I think we have oh you do we do we have we have a Seltzer here jump so Jake Wow we're going to drink from the levitating cup get it it's getting heavy oh it is kind of going now you really should not I feel that always up its up it's the putting it back without spilling I got there any electronics everybody thinks were but yeah so I mean I I asked them about this because I really wanted to know I'm like am I supposed to use it as a coaster and they're like no you just like serve it to someone and then remove it which like they make these battery powers you can lift them up which like a cocktail see if you were certain like this you can't be served a nice cocktail on this glass it's a plastic glass it's like screw yeah that's really no they would not work and also there are any number of like medium bad cocktail bars in New York City but I like kind of like a yeah but these things aren't even made well that like the the magnet is glued to the bottom they actually also sell a $330 art piece which is really just like a 3d printed like vase or something it was cracked when it arrived and on top of that the magnet on the bottom fell off which this is all that these things really are it's just this magnet but it's kind of cool because now we can just see how this works okay you can definitely try but let's put this on Kickstarter you owe us royalty straight-up someone's gonna steal his art yeah this is the most obscure thing I've ever really what happens when this runs out apparent so this is okay this is all this stuff but that's okay this is the one that is my absolute favorite I gotta be careful because this is also the absolute horror see it to float this is the levitating Nixie clock by laser mat and this is clear this is made by some dude named Tony in Scotland it's one guy well I know valise maybe the chef so this is really cool so the Nixie clocks are these I I guess like retro clocks that people are coming into they're sort of like a neon lights where you have a gas inside the tube and it lights up the numbers which as you'll notice means these are real glass way more dangerous because you got to make sure you don't crack these or you're gonna just break it all right tell the people how you set this clock cuz that's the sale yeah so first you would think it's a clock I bet I can just program the timing no too simple instead start with this this which I also want to note says experimental use only on it by the way Anthony said there's loads of Tony's in Scotland oh that's right thanks thank you so this is they called the GPS Tony goes as a GPS mouse you have to plug this into power separate from this thing and it has a really weak signal so it needs to be pointed directly out of window it then gets the signal from the GPS satellite these lights just like blink and stuff me real it looks very sketchy when you just plug it into a corner of your office and don't tell people what it is you're looking for the sky yeah it then booms GPS data over to this box which just sounds like a big old wire coming out of it this box takes the GPS signal and power routes it into this thing which then sends it up to this clock which also has that's good really it's really cool yeah how much is this one this one if you buy an unassembled kit this is like really mad as a DIY project is 360 okay I actually don't even know if they have any more but unfunded yeah this is also crowdfunded did six six thousand and the assembled kits sold for $500 Wow which of all of these things I think this is like the nicest quality it's definitely very weird they're not gonna say that but somewhere else Steve Wozniak you will necessarily impress everyone who walks in here I'd actually of all of these which one is your favorite my gosh I I really didn't think this would be me but I feel like it's my it's the car yes functional you could drink out of it well how much light are you getting out of this bulb the speaker doesn't even levitate I feel like you you rock if I have an office but if I had an office you walk in my office you see this you're like thank you very much for both of you bringing me these things although I did get it so I'm happy about that here's what's gonna happen now we're gonna go to a package room play video it is cool it's a trailer for dieter bones to YouTube show processor but we come back we have gadget emotional support so call us call us on your telephone one eight four four four emotion numbers bottom screen call us we're gonna walk you through the emotions of your tech support issue so watch this video the dieter for processor where we are back with your phone calls I'm dieter bone and I'm starting a new video series on YouTube where we're going to post a video every week and it's gonna be a little bit different than the stuff we've sort of done before I promise you I promise you that it's not going to be me holding a Naz model making bad jokes I may hold an Osmo I'm definitely gonna make bad jokes but usually those two things will cross we'll have professionals pointing at the camera at me when I make bad jokes anyway the point is I want to do a video series that looks a little bit more closely at our relationship with technology and the way that we think about technology for example one of the episodes we're working on is this Apple commercial but piss everybody off what's a computer I think people really mad I think it's fascinating that people got so angry about that line in that commercial it all was like about we're calling the show processor we are gonna look at the choices that technology companies are making and we're looking the choices that we ourselves are making interacting with that technology and we're gonna we're gonna process all of that and hopefully come to a deeper understanding of what our relationship with technology is what a relationship with each other is to prove this technology mediated by it I want us to get a little bit smarter and if nothing else a little bit less afraid and a little bit less alienated by all this gadgetry stay tuned we're working in the video series right now it's called processor with me Peter bone it seems like a thing that's worth doing we're back emotional support so call us 180 44 for emotion phones are lighting up back there Creighton our producer is screening the people who call to just breathe it us but I'm going to start with one okay it's kind of it's it's a lot it's a lot okay I mean like it's a lot of hearts are open we're ready getting all the car isn't it no I bought it should yes it's a real thing so I'm an Xbox person and I bought a ps4 so I was peer pressured into it and I kind of want to not use it and I feel bad because every time I say that out loud I'm like I'm gonna get rid of this ps4 am I an Xbox 1x like people like literally our co-workers make fun of me like they make disapproving noises because they think you're making the wrong choice yeah because they're like why are you doing that how do I stand up okay well the first question I have is whether the person who was encouraging you to buy we were the same people okay so they were just like it wasn't like we want to play with you like we can have to be on the same game it was more just like make the right choice yeah it was like I'm gonna do this oh okay I'm like I'm gonna buy these are mantras in the mirror no Chris plant the executive editor polygon I'm like I'm not buy an xbox I'm like literally and like he'll just like type of room veces in slack well okay if as long as you don't feel left out like you're not missing out on games with your friends then I feel like better about yourself playing an Xbox playing a bad game on the Xbox then you would playing a good game on a ps4 cuz that's the question what I would only play the same games I feel like the Xbox is like a better computer piece for us I got messed me this doesn't make any sense then see you're judging I'm ruined the segment okay yeah actually any years ago that just Tom the saying the boss yeah what do you hate about it so much it's just like I don't know it's at home like I I think the way the whole interface is organized to ps4 just like deeply confuses me like Sony doesn't get computer to make beautiful gaming consoles they have better games that's the thing that I think you go with the counter take prove them wrong live your best life with your xbox that's like everyday ash like advertised like I'm Asha Graham yeah like it's the story be like this is amazing but it kind of think manifestly is not amazing okay when you buy a phone do you always buy the phone that is like technically the best experience because it pleases you in certain bizarre way no it's the same thing because although all the people are on iMessage right and all the people are on PSN but you don't want to be happy if you don't hear about the people then it doesn't matter what system you Mir alright creighton by the way call us 180 44 I didn't get anywhere with this by the way I just want you to know one eight four four let's stand up yourself about the friends at all well as people it's poor life choices the chat is like out of control now if you have thoughts about this call me 184 for emotion all right we got Eric on the line he wants tacos unfinished software Eric go ahead Eric I'm really glad that my earpiece wasn't broken yeah Creighton yeah tell us you're doing great so I mean I do a lot of beta testing and this this problem happens a lot and it especially happened with the kaavo you know the software just doesn't do anything supposed to do yeah no I feel like wait do you do a lot of beta testing or you feel that you live a life of beta testing I don't know so I hear it my my feeling is that all of us consumers now live a life of permanent beta testing because nothing quite you wrote that tape didn't you after the holidays yeah nothing works yeah everything is too complicated so my my my like deep feeling in life is it tech companies build things based on assumptions and the assumptions are stacking up faster than anybody has like realized so give me an example so the Kaaba was one they actually ship that product it sort of worked like 80% of it worked and then 20% of its broken what some other places we have named definitely this other software that's supposed to be controlling my keyboard and mouse can't really say what the company is but they told me to uninstall the first version and install the beta version and now I can't even use my keyboard enough here's the thing you're not you're not upset about these things being broken maybe you are I shouldn't tell you you got invested in this because there is a joy in having half broken products that do something slightly different than everyone else's yeah I use an email app that doesn't work like 80 percent of the time I love it though what's your email out airmail it's fantastic it has a million features yep it has never let me down testing for air mail and yes yeah thank you air mail is you know it's but it's it's there's such a wonderful feeling to using this bizarre piece of software that you have no idea how it's running like you feel like you are in the new frontier yeah venture I feel a little special for having it I feel like I've gotten involved in something that I shouldn't be doing it's it's a little risky you know there's no better feeling than like the one thing that's broken and that you're not expecting it and the software update hits and that shit's fixed yes you get that small victory I waited this out yeah in the cabo when the cabo got its like final update and then it finally worked that was like the best feeling ever just the entire bait at that time it just it would like one day would turn on and then the next day I would have to factory reset it exactly even have it worried yeah okay I don't think you have a problem here I think I think what you have is knowledge you have a deep knowledge about yourself so you're good take Ashley as bad advice to me but think of it as good advice for you just you be you posting Ariens the story every day about how your birthing makes you happy all right we're gonna go to the next call by Eric of course by the way Mark Zuckerberg thanks Eric Mark Zuckerberg was testifying in front of Congress today we have Brandon on the phone he says he has a one-year-old feelings about Facebook and exposing his kids to it Brandon tell me what's up I have a one-year-old I know you have a kid on the way I just was wondering what do you think about you know exposing your kids to social media things like Facebook Instagram you know where is that all going should I just keep my kid away from that so I had this like I don't have a kid yet you a one-year-old this is what your of your one year old in my forthcoming daughter whose name will be forthcoming Patel like cardi B for my daughter will be classic rock that's a crazy thought right I I work for your kid like this whatever you do with her now him now it will be the same as like the phone system or like cable news right like you're gonna build them up into it and they're never gonna know the world before they're just gonna like build around them so someone asked me yesterday look what's the social media policy for my kid gonna be and I was like we're just not gonna give her one until she wants it and then we're gonna like make sure she's responsible of it which is basically how my parents that gave me up like I landed when I was a teenager yeah you're more hip with teens than I am well I think use on your podcast like every week it's true um I mean I think it's one of those things where you yeah you kind of have to weigh it out for yourself because I do see how social media is super toxic and I honestly feel bad for kids now like if you see your friends in a story all the time and you're not invited that must suck like back when we were in high school it was like maybe you heard rumors but you never knew now there's hardcore evidence all the time so I feel like you have to prepare your kid for those realizations and they have to be mature enough to understand that it's like it's okay you're not gonna get invited to some things and you're gonna be fine so also maybe just wait till they're a teenager it's like that's like years from now infinite on my Instagram I would say I mean it's all every parent's choice yeah like Andy at the verge transportation reporter I'm so thankful he puts his kids on insta stories because it is my favorite content that exists down private brand is your is your Instagram open or closed is your Facebook open or closed it's closed yeah so if you're keeping your own pictures of that lockdown that seems like pretty safe you know Mark Zuckerberg has an app on his phone that's like shows in one new baby a day from all across its refresh your thoughts what are you gonna do with it I don't know it's kind of hard to say I mean part part of what makes me nervous is that you know I'm not an old guy but I don't I don't use things like snapchat you know I'm above that I'm older than most people who use snapchat so I don't even know what what's in that world you know the answer is others maybe kid yeah like right the answers are they're teenagers I think you raise it like everything you described is just new tastes on the same high school dramas that you know people are worrying about yeah right you can't necessarily avoid that at all as for whether you put your you like encourage your kids me on social media there know how many people are excited about that like you know at this moment in time right the baby youtubers yeah don't here's our advice to you Brandon yo sorry you trial a YouTube channel turn them into millions of dollars no I think the answer is you do it's comfortable for your channel and you wait until they start asking for their own and then you start you start teaching them how to use it effectively that's all you can do but the real thing to me is they're never gonna know you made this decision if you start buying them followers now suspicious when they're older you just want them to succeed you just want them to be influencers just give your baby to Sam Scheffer that's my plan all right that on that extremely strange no thank you so much Brandon we're actually out of time for this episode of circuit breaker live we'll be back next week 4 p.m. Eastern I might not be here because I literally might have a baby between now I'm always paranoid right before the show you're like sorry guys babies on the way gotta go I will tell you this you know the iPhone 10 when you get a text message it doesn't show it to you it's like a look at the phone so every time Becky texts me I'm like next week we're alive 4 p.m. Eastern thank you to everybody in a chat thank you to Ashley a Jake hi I'm Stefan we'll be back next week we'll see you then you
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