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On The Verge: Paul Feig, Lance Reddick, and 'Lifeforce'

2013-06-27
fight on the set plans this can be great thanks so much for coming it's my pleasure is there anything that you need because we're gonna get rolling in a second anything you want or need okay great let's get started sounds good yes thank you and thank you welcome to on the verge brought to you by samsung i'm your host Josh Topolsky and you're a dude named Ralph which I'm personally excited about we have an incredible show an amazing show tonight may be our best ever director Paul Feig is here in the studio with us in a little bit to talk about film and so much more i sat down with Lance Reddick from the wire and fringe and most recently White House down and we're going to discuss all sorts of exciting things and there's a heat wave in New York right now and it's very uncomfortable so clearly a lot to talk about let's get to the news get excited get very excited the official trailer for the film jobs has finally been released if you don't know what the movie is I don't know why you're even watching this it's ashton kutcher in the role of Steve Jobs covering the birth of Apple up until the release of the original ipod so none of the iphone stuff but you know no big deal for what i can tell it's going to be an incredible film and it's going to feature a rebellious barefoot and frankly sexy Steve Jobs who has the voice of Kelso here take a look these are state-of-the-art nobody's making anything like this welcome the helpful computer this is everything startup I think we should start with around 90 grand could you repeat that if you'll have me bored boom right there that's what it all happens I have to say it does really look good and I do want to see it but I can't help but feel I've seen this somewhere before you don't just live in life you changing shape it you make your mark upon us Steve Jobs dumb for the navicomputer what on earth would ordinary people talk with computers kind of venture money we talking about my well I figure we start with about a quarter million dollars you see what I was excuse me that's the first time that people are coming to me send me going to them we have to think of ourselves as artists just like the tussle said good artists copy great artists steal I asked you for brilliance I've asked you for genius when you give him this you guys are not being paid to be a bunch of clowns you guys are supposed to be writing toe friends ladies and gentlemen a toast to a remarkable man Steve Jobs a truly a guiding light a man who sees the future filling their words the way I could see that right now but I'll just have to wait okay on a more serious note on a very newsy important note I need to talk to you about one of my favorite movies of all time 1985's life force which has just been released in a special limited edition blu-ray that is jam-packed full of extra features interviews with the cast and crew there's a director's cut it's thrilling if you don't know anything about life force and you're thinking should I go buy or rent this movie and watch it over and over and over again let me try to help you make the decision the film is written by alien scribe dan o'bannon who's a very sick man and directed by tobe Hooper that's the tobe Hooper who directed the Texas Chainsaw Massacre a very sick movie but life force is really truly incredible on its own it's a rollicking thriller / horror / adventure / romance that will leave you totally breathless and if you're not convinced let me list just a few of the things that you'll see in the movie after you hit play on your remote control space vampires space bats zombies 150 mile long phallic alien ship a post-apocalyptic London Patrick Stewart in his first onscreen kiss with a man and most importantly I think extended scenes featuring full frontal nudity of a beautiful woman now look I'm not saying that you have to watch the movie but if you don't I will hunt you down using the body of a nude woman and then suck your life force out through your mouth all right enough about me I had a chance to sit down with Lance Reddick as i told you from the wire and fringe and most recently a major Hollywood white house explosion movie called white house down and here's a clip from that and my conversation with Lance sir we're at DEFCON 1 nuclear football on the white house just went live that's impossible it's happening and someone has just entered valid launch codes captain oh damn hell is going on sir we have nuclear missiles spinning up on the Albuquerque if our lics launching a full-scale nuclear strike they will respond rush will launch China will launch will have World War 3 in the next 10 minutes let you level the White House four minutes to target sir sir I need a final go/no-go for payload delivery plans thanks so much for being here my flesh really appreciate it we turned up the heat in the building for you I could tell ya it's very warm and I apologize the good thing is that when black people get shinya looks good so you know just keep it up i wish i were black I mean I'm just cuz im just gonna sweat and look like crap well we really look amazing but see that's what fancy that's how you know god works in mysterious ways because white people look good dry so it's just I do look I do look amazing dry that is a well-known fact what are we talking I like this interview already this is good so uh I want to talk a little bit about your earlier career I know you've got new stuff that we're going to talk about but um maybe you hate bringing this up maybe I you don't want me to talk about this but I want talk about the wire a little bit okay there's a very rabid fan base for the wire a lot of people say it's the greatest show greatest drama I ever put on television so that must be cool to be part of that but but that character your character in the show is a character that seems to be people seem to like you in this character which is sort of kind of an asshole like a little bit of an asshole but just get done it's funny because I think it boils we're going to Aston at least at least four seasons pray that's animation is similar in a similar vein Paul Giamatti and our buddies from drama school and we were shooting the first season of friend she and I were having lunch and he was talking about yet the first season of fringe is really was the very end was when the last season the wire aired and that's when he really kind of blew up right and we're shooting in New York and it was the first time in my career that I just like I just couldn't get down the street without being stopped and I was talking to Paul about it and he said man is something about TV too because I didn't you know cuz Paul's a movie star but he said it wasn't until I did John Adams that I started getting that and it's something something about coming into people's living rooms you know in a consistent basis and it's not just that they see you often but they see you as that person I mean I remember we're shooting the first season of fringe and the makeup artist ahead make a person told me the story she said that a couple of cops were doing security we were shooting in New York they were doing security and they think they came to her in decent man that guy's a badass and she looked around she said lions and well that's the character yeah yeah the characters about you you think they think I'm playing badasses do you why not do not think of yourself as a bad news you mean in real life well I don't know I mean you get cast as a badass yes my kids they'll say though really yeah I mean yeah it's funny cuz like I always think you know when you see somebody who's played you know it's kind of a gruff character yeah I mean I I said an asshole but it's which is kind of insulting I now realize but but it is a character who's kind of like you could see how that's the character who kind of gets in some ways can get under people's skin on the show in a way that is very forceful and and it's a very specific role you know it's kind of gruff but then ends up being a good like a really good guy and I feel like that must be something that people see in you naturally because it's so you're so often in such a similar kind of role well but once again the funny thing about it is it wasn't until the wire I mean you remember i audition for three different roles for the water and that was the last they didn't want to see me for Daniel's at first I yeah I just refer bunk three times that's so insane because to imagine it as anybody else seems impossible yeah I dish of a bunk three times and the third time I went in they wanted to see me for bubbles really yeah because uh on my third audition David Simon was there and he had cast me as Marvin in in in the corner who's it was crackhead so he knew me as a crackhead and I just played great crackhead and in Oz you know I played in undercover cop but a guy who gets addicted to heroin right boylar yes spoilers in case you're watching oz oh well you know what that shows it's been several it's like a decade i think there's got to be a statue of limitation to fix oh that's interesting so it's crazy though because i show you so perfectly embody that character i mean i think it's a job playing Broyles after that kind of that's what it was like okay I may be in danger of becoming tap cash yeah I don't think it's typecasting I mean I think that it's it's a I think it's a role it's hard to play I mean in my opinion it's kind of because you kind of have to like it's almost like in some ways you think that guy's kind of a jerk but then you sort of love them and I think that's a fine line to walk am I in mine you know Lynn I did feel that I had to get a really get into the guy's head because it wasn't just a matter of saying the lines and you know acting feelings so so obviously the wire is is a big deal for you but then fringe comes along was sci-fi something that that you have an interest in naturally or was that did you have to come around to the concept of doing something that was because it really is you know there is a pretty big difference in the tone between something like the wire we're like it's like really gritty really real and then infringes obviously feels with its almost straight forward action adventure yes right exactly was that was that something was with sci-fi something that you you you love to start with or was it did you have to come around to it I mean I will say I'm a huge Star Wars and Star Trek fan yeah particularly I mean I have all seven seasons of Star Trek Voyager yeah very interested yeah really and Captain Kirk well I mean will William Shatner's portrayal of Captain Kirk was one of my um like I growing up I just always wanted to be him yeah I mean I remember when I I'm over a moding that's like one of those Shatner's very throws himself into the emotion well I mean in all Disney Chatteris this is blowing my chances of a shattering well its engine because I feel that um if you watch his work in the first season there's really a lot of subtle teen nuanced I mean it's piece up he's mesmerizing to watch right and I just think that quite frankly as iconic as that original series has become once you got to the second or third seasons um it really kind of a lot of the writing became more and more ridiculous yeah I show his character that have played that yeah and when you you know when you're kind of being the guy mostly who carries the show and you don't I me right I just think he kind of fell into some habits that he became more like Kirk right in he almost became like a parody of himself right but right yeah but no I guess that's true guinea I just feel like he was really you know me I'm yeah I think there is more subtlety in general in the first season of that show yeah and and yeah it's weird to see how it did become it well I mean look once you establish the character and this in the place then it's sort of easy to play inside of that but it also gives you more rigidity to the to what you can do yeah and also your it's the kind of thing where and once again i don't i don't want to spend too much time trying to defend my shadows reforms not really really are a shatner defender you well known it's it's I'm just thinking about the difference in SE the wire for example um you know I remember I can't say what sure was but I went I had a meeting at the end of the last season of the wire I started going on auditions for new pilots and I wanted this pilot audition in one of the creators of the show was a big fan of my work and he had he had been a showrunner on HBO show and now this is a network series he said you know the difference between Sean HBO and a show network is on HBO they hire you to do your show a network they hire you to do this uh and I know and you know from the things that I've read about the original Star Trek it was as groundbreaking as it was it was a constant fight to keep it just from being a Western in our space right so you've got a new thing a new very new project that everybody's very excited about White House buddy oh yeah what else does you know like how is it because there is there's others other thing to talk about white house down explain white house down to me tell me what this movie is about I mean I think I know it's about but I want to hear from you well it's basically about terrorists attacking and almost it's successfully taking over the White House they're just so crazy to hear it out loud yeah terror is taking over the White House yeah and and it's about kind of the Channing Tatum is the hero and we can say to heroes and Jamie Foxx pizza present and it almost cost yeah yeah the bat it just baddest-ass president ever and you're in your character is I play the Vice chamber the Joint Chiefs of Staff okay so you're a military dude yes and I'm basically the guy in the military who is in charge of the military right and you've got the horse some reason it's given but it's a little shaky but for some reason the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is not around so I know guys Eisenhower Falls to you yeah he's like on vacation something like that listen I know you got to go thank you so much for doing this we might appreciate it yes Lance Lance is an awesome dude and also really really good at staring next up we've got a clip from the movie the heat which is the new film directed by paul feig and when we come back from that clip Paul will be here in the studio talking to us so stick around ah that is that's one of the better Jesus sports-themed paintings I've seen it's very good nice are you a knock sorry are you a knock I'm not I don't know what that is a knack no am i speaking Japanese yeah listen to him I'm gonna sound it out for you ah you or I you not a knack like Johnny Depp in 21 Jump Street ah icic okay a narc I'm not yes yes yes what do you what was I saying I was missing the are when you were saying I heard not are you what what are you doing here what are you doing I'm most federal agent I'm a special agent are you a boy or a girl it's a fair question uh I'm I'm female okay all woman from the get-go oh no operation um from birth yes how you get that close to shave on your face I need to go but I'll be back oh nice knowing you too yeah thank you yeah and very good very upsetting and now I junkie in this studio the lovely the delightful or so I'm told Paul Feig Paulo thank you for being here okay I'm good good you and I can borrow I you know it's actually I had a pen mom sorry uh moments ago I know now it's gone forever I like that I like that you go in on the attack yeah throw me off see exactly that's a technique yeah how am I lay back that's it now you have control right this is right I'm now in the catbird seat why I don't appreciate that Paul yes sir you're a man of many talents director yes sometimes I producer actor occasionally a creator of beloved television shows and other exactly author yes true that I said yeah I know my publisher would rival but to me the most interesting thing about when I was reading about you and I did several weeks reading before I'm sorry the most interesting thing is that you were on you acted in the first season of sabrina the teenage witch certainly did you tell me about your character I was the biology teacher mr. Poole and they asked me what would you like your first name to be and because i'm a comedy genius i said gene so I was dr. gene pool they actually went so they went for it see what your what your resist this is a 1997 so tell me about that experience I mean first off were you was this a dream of yours had you been thinking yes I want to get on the sabrina the teenage witch is not was originally a film right it knows I comics was a common era comic book okay okay a graphic novel the right kids call it these I don't think it was another guy reading graphic novels like it would be a compilation or what storyline that's right I'm just a graphite no but you and that's the kind of jokes see the heat yeah but how did that happen and can you tell me a little about your experience I mean in a skirmish orange a shoulder sure it was not kind of a Jojo was it you know it's you know I was an actor I'd been on I've been a regular in like four other TV series that all got cancelled in there in their first season Dirty Dancing the TV series no that didn't exist it did you were in you were in it yes you play this way Z character and this of course I can i play baby ya know I was ever you're not old enough to remember this but do you go well I don't know because you're a youthful looking man thank you that's not totally uncalled do you are but no they need to be like would they would make like the the Partridge Family cartoon in the Brady Bunch cartoon and they'd always add like a dancing panda or like a singing bird and that was me on the show because I was a character that was not in the movie I was you were enormous yes I was I should have been a bird I was Norman the comedian bellhop did you have to dance in it they tried to get me to dance but I refused was he refused to dance on the show no no there was a scene like there's it like it was Patrick Swayze padding out of the Patrick so he was um Patrick Cassidy failures at Patrick Stewart knows Patrick Cassidy plated number laura hart enjoy the end moment years later I directing on the office as because she was Michaels a girlfriend one time yeah but they were doing a sexy dance and I they had a reaction shot of me in the doorway and the directors like pretend like you're into that you're kind of dancing with them and getting turned on I was like I'm not gonna get yeah I like getting turned on ya know it was out to be like oh you're not just dancing you not just into the groove you're actually sexually around one either I'm dancing dirtily right tell me you've done all this stuff your preferences or one thing that you love more than all the others oh dude to do in terms of like acting direct I like you're producing you like to record that I gotta push people around can you see yourself just being a director just in forever until you yeah so you dealt oh yeah I mean I was right and I get them very involved in the writing and some things I actually write myself and other things are you hire your having these amazing writers i work with rye i like it it's is an actor i was very limited let's just say i only get some of these skills then the director is really the boss yeah you're in movie making depth oh right you are the main story teller and TV you're sort of the facilitator of the writers write these great scripts and you can make it better but you also when they say like no I wanted this way then you go okay that's fine is there any person when you're a director that you can't tell what to do uh decides like the pricing the producers web in the studio when oh yeah I mean here you are as a movie director York occasionally fighting everybody I was looking out not the last two ones i did that everybody was pretty cool but um no I fought some Pyrrhic victories in my time ya Yin just didn't know you win and you're like well nobody hates me yeah it was all worth it to get him in a red shirt so so director would be your preference yes you'd like to die directing yes but not anytime anything the scene ends and they look back there's a skeleton hanging on yes sitting in the director's chair I'm run over by a crane and they go he wouldn't want to go that's how that's yeah I never I say he would have wanted to go that way i don't think i would have wanted to go whatever way they think i would have why we gonna go just quietly in my bed asleep yes not like in the like dick Shawn remember the comedian dick Shawn go oh I'm so long dick shots that's like a made-up person enough I it's a man that will the beginning of a joke man yes right you know dick Shawn at the track but he died on stage performing and he was a funny guy near one-man show and so he did the money collapse on stage and people were laughing for a minute Redd Foxx this is what with red fog no didn't really I think he had a he no-hit cuz his thing was I'm going oh another big 10 and then ed I think he actually this could be an okanagan i'm aight be propagating an urban legend if you die eating pop rocks no he had a pop rocks and soda and then that he was doing his bit right and they died in Vietnam that's right you created the show Freaks and Geeks wildly popular well now now you think let me finish okay wildly popular now not popular in its in its time TB has really changed though since freaks and geeks yeah was on the air and obviously people love it obvious i mean i think a lot of people consider to be one of the best shows ever put on television it's nice somebody know it's the fact accepting do you think it would if do you think that show would have had a different story in this day and age if it were on if NBC had that show today I don't think it would have because now the business model is kind of if you get an entire season then you know people will binge watch it right whether when they might not necessarily watch the first season so I think we were so critically acclaimed at the bet we would have at least got another half season do it given the dvds kind of changed yes yeah but you have done a lot of TV you've done a lot of directing yeah on TV besides you're you're very deep acting career which goes back several hundred shows it certainly does I heard failed and weird shows but you've directed a ton of television yeah you did an episode 30 rock more than one yet no just 1 30 rock what happened there they didn't want you back oh you know Alec go Alec Baldwin's at all yes and yes exactly no it was fun a great on you he leave nasty I believe the quote was uh you gotta knock it off with this Truffaut man really yeah it's did he say that's a de but he was so you have a real laeta maneuver real be for that we might even know I certainly do this is real no I certainly do that i love the man because he will take action on a good to trust me i know i don't know but sure that is hello sure I've had action taken on your beef oh oh god those jokes okay so do you do you have interest and creating new TV shows I mean I mean you seems like there would be some fertile ground there oh yeah and now that people agree that that unions freaks and geeks was excellent I mean TV isn't the greatest place that has ever been I think I think we were honestly in a more of a golden age and it was back when they called it a golden age and just think of all the shows but it's also because of they are open to the serialization of storytelling right which i think is a better it's a way to tell a story so now I episodic shows annoying yeah you know and they're just not out there not as exciting to work on because you're just like reinventing the wheel every day you have the same cast a chimeric Monster of the Week yeah exactement yes well as the x-files monster-of-the-week I don't drive my very annoying cuz i just want to see the x-files story unfold oh yeah are you working on anything new for television would you be interested if we're developing a few things they are oh you talk about them here of course not can you just tell their agent no i will say there you will oh there is one with a sci-fi been to it i like sci-fi Carly and I don't feel there's been enough sci-fi comedy you're on Twitter yes I am now that's gonna go a hard pivot all right with ya I thought of it you're on Twitter yes uh you have 1.3 million followers it's like first up how did you get 1.3 million followers how does that happen I got in early I'll tell me give me a pen I will tell you exactly I happen but it can't happen again I'm afraid because I came in early on it and rain will I was working on the office Rainn Wilson said hey if you're gone twitter I'll tell my followers so immediately at 7th 00 but what happens they put me on this thing work oh you are suggesting users list so every day like every week I got thousand more fire a reviled person I know exact Witter I have the suggester suggested users list was a highly controversial I know move on the part of no turn the benefit which gave power to people like you hmm who would probably abusing it oh no totally so I'm ends up yeah this true though yeah you now have incredible power you know pretty much anything oh yeah I can I said so do you see Twitter I mean there are people who use Twitter as a comedy platform you guys like Rob Delaney for instance it's really made a career out of Twitter as a platform for comedy do you see it that way do you use it that way oh yeah that that's my favorite use for it i will occasionally self-promote on it but i don't like to do that I know guys even doing a lot of heat promotion I know a lot of you and I'm suffering for it because you see the numbers dropping but yeah but at the same time you know Studios like can you put it out there but I to me twitter is being a comedy man yourself you always had the joe to the notebook that you carry around and you write like funny thoughts I have a smart I've own app on my smartphone well okay in the old days in it yeah do carry notepad you have a something not anymore no I used use your phone yeah okay yeah i know you but but there's many years when i had the path give you write stuff in there then you put hurling it would put anyway wow that's to go like i have a funny thought to put it out that's why do I actually right I have I do tend to write down I'm gonna get I shouldn't say this because it's a great idea but I'm gonna tell you an idea i wrote down i'll just say what the idea is not gonna explain it Jewish terminator that's it and you could just admit you just you just figure out chose date it's not not violent okay and I violate I guess I should to expand on that a little bit you know the Terminator has a heads-up display yes where he's evaluating what's going on interprets it in a more of a deuteron illuminator is Jewish yeah that's it let's move on wow so so were you when you were in I mean obviously freaks and geeks with base after going back to prefigure man oh I'm so good I heat stress and everything there's two of you rises rap let's just round me about it oh I my pants sorry forgot to tell you here too yeah I know I knew it we have that one thing that happens uh but but but well this is sort of related to the twitter stuff and sort of the rise of nerd culture yes i mean i think in some ways freaks and geeks is now it now makes more sense because people better understand nerd culture and sort of geek culture which is really risen to be the dominant force in popular culture yeah when you look at the movies that are number one movies right it's it's Superman and and the Avengers and just real star trek just incredibly nerdy stuff yeah that even ten years ago was was still sort of breaking through no I mean I credit the internet for all this stuff back when I was a kid and you know we got all our my geeky friends you always felt like am I are we the only weirdos out there that like this stuff and you had no community the minute you have an internet you have this community that empowers you like the weirdest stuff you're into yeah there's a bunch of people just suddenly like it seems not only not that weird but kind of popular oh don't know then you're cool it wasn't got this cool all of my weird sex stuff oh yeah I thought I was the only what yeah who knew you got you guys a people huge gas mentality like oh oh that's right oh you're your cop brother how are you but I'd a look down here by the couch give me a baggie and a nice looking there were lonely days I uh that is good stuff but I do want to talk a little bit about because you do have a film that you're now promoting aside me you haven't promoted it except for the couple of times during this interview yeah I was at once but the heat yes tell me just give me the give me the outline of the heat everything is about the female a buddy cop comedy there you go okay this movie though this has been a big people made a big deal about your portrayals of women in movies it's not a traditional they're not traditional portrayals in the sense that the female characters are really fully fleshed out real people yeah and frankly for Hollywood that's unusual I know that's so crazy is it right that's a weird giver like can you believe the care like these characters in brides are smart and funny and acting like all the women we know in real life right how dare you lay right do that so what is it why is it why did you crack this where's that I mean what is it about you that that gave you this sensitivity and insight into the female condition I have a very item of a very feminized man yes aiiah does that mean I I grew up around a lot of women my god I grow I was an only child i grew up next to a family of eight kids and six of them were girls and they were all my best friends so hung with them all the time and then I'll of bullies in school so I drobo it was bullied of course how could you look at me yeah but I always would run to the girls and going okay and I got no part of the problem now that's the boys and I know I understand believe me oh yes I know Tim practice running to the girls not yeah maybe they were fun and we laugh and I was in drama club and all the guys so I I just always knew women and I always kind of liked how how funny they were and I was like kind of making them laugh and they made me laugh and it just this feeling that I'm watching all these movies their guy dominated something like the funniest women I know are in it they're playing just like a mean girl friend yeah funniest yeah why doesn't she get it be fun did you think this is something I have to crack or did it just happen because this is the movie that you wanted to make it was a little bit something I wanted to crack because I over the Pinot Lindsay we're and freaks and geeks is one of my favorite characters ever you know created so I had other projects that have like female leads in Hollywood just going no you can't because people won't go to see they always had like some reason and you go okay and then finally started going like wait that why is that a reason it doesn't make sense that there the population of the world that is a great point there are a lot of women in the world all right okay final question yes we have gone way longer and I've enjoyed every minute of it thank you and nor am I more than I expected to be honest and you're you wear suits constantly is that you're a very handsome Lee dressed man thank you sir what tip can you give someone one tip onto they want to be a great looking guy mmm every day of the week yes what's your what's your advice it's not about how expensive the suit is is about how good the tailor is so you can buy a cheap suit go to some guy spend a little bit of money to get tailored because I guys although I don't dress up cuz too expensive not an excuse you can go to the thrift store and you can buy a suit and just get something to tailor it nicely for you and then you will look like a million bucks that is an incredible piece of advice thank you so much oh thanks so much really appreciate you and that is our show I want to thank Paul lance reddick for joining us and you for watching this I mean you didn't have to you chose to and that's wonderful we'll be back with more on the verge soon and until then there is no until then you you
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