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Oh all right fine you keep going that makes me feel very good thank you thank you thank you thank you so much I'm not too proud to beg for applause as you just witnessed hi I'm Josh to welcome the editor-in-chief of The Verge and welcome to on the verge thank you guys so much for being here really appreciate it we have an interesting show tonight it's kind of a sci-fi themed show so we're gonna be talking about sci-fi science fiction by the way if you didn't know that you have to leave I was I'm worried about how many people might have known that it's cool we're talking about a lot of science fiction stuff we actually one of our editors went to ilm industrial light and magic and did a tour there and did some interviews there so we've got some some footage of that which is pretty cool we have from Microsoft Andy Wilson he's one of the researchers he brought a really crazy I can't describe it it's like a backpack thing with you'll see it he's like kind of like a nerdy predator and and he doesn't actually kill anybody but it's almost as cool and and and Paul went out on the streets and asked people about what they wanted from they could have something from science fiction that was highly entertaining oh and we have some cool stuff here that nobody else is see we have the new HTC phones not that sci-fi but they are kind of futuristic so sort of sci-fi anyhow we should get underway I just want to thank forward our sponsor they're helping us put this on and that is awesome so I think we should get paul miller and nilay patel out here and get this thing started Paul and Neil I yeah butcher I just after now so good to see ya so good to see you how are you how are you yes hi hi nice to see you again it's great spent a long time we never see each other no we don't work together yeah just that was a great intro by though I don't know if you ever get compliments okay I don't know nobody ever says anything nice to me about the intro so that means a lot oh it really did I meant it thank you thank you so much could you get closer baby here alright so we have we have things to talk about besides Paul complimenting my great intro thanks for nothing Neil I uh I mean I deliberately said nothing there was some news this week I don't know if you guys heard have you heard the news have you did the iphone Safin there's a new iphone really it's the new iPhone iPhone 5 is out this week kind of big news we did a review of it you can see here and slightly big have a large story here's here's some beautiful shots from our review it's a fine phone I reviewed it it's if you love the iphone yeah you love the iphone 5 but I have to say I went on The Today Show to talk about that's a humble brag in case you're wondering I went on to the today show to talk about the iphone 5 and which is weird because it's a phone the footage they shot up no this is our footage are excellent footage but also when we were when we were driving past the cube very early in the morning there was a massive people there to the crush of people and I'm concerned I think it's a little bit weird that we're still waiting people are still waiting in lines for the phone this is rough own 6 iphone here's here's people right here a sleeping outside I mean this is the sixth time they've released a phone yeah and it is just a phone it's the back I'm saying this as a nerd okay here's people outside the cube you know in some of these some of these situations got a little bit scary a little bit out of hand I mean here you've got riot police moving in just people trying to get their hands on the phone here the I don't know why these guys hazmat suit you know and I'm worried I mean here people were just rushing to escape from a scene where they were handing out phones I guess and I'm worried what it could mean for Humanity yeah frankly I'm I'm worried that we're headed towards a scary place this topic at this topic nightmare really no charge of the iphone 5 launch lines I mean it's funny is it Iowa six with the maps really appreciate I mean this scene predicted by apple in its own mapping song there are some issues I don't know if you've heard there are some issues with in apps where they're not properly just playing here this is the Brooklyn Bridge right way that doesn't that didn't turn out quite apocalypse there will be no points of interest there will be will be taking wrong turns all the time yeah Italy adesso Legends will be startling a desolate wasteland I actually have I actually have my phone here and that what's amazing by the way I just saw these today for the first time and item Paulie sorry internet everyone if the iPhone 6 has some sort of fusion reactor inside of it and something goes wrong that is what its gonna look I know I have the phone here this is I just pulled this up because they were like wells or other stuff that's weird this is the I don't know what camera I'm going to maybe this one over here the Statue of Liberty there is controversy can we get that it's not there you know it literally is not present yeah gone it's been taken out so you have Hoover Dam I'm is my favorite yeah here's Hoover Dam something's gone wrong horribly wrong with the road could we get that up she the dip their the road doesn't go like that doesn't go in does it go into the water I'm is shockingly exciting yeah but look it's a really nice phone but they do have problems with maps and that's been kind of I mean when I went on The Today Show again humblebrag Al Roker humblebrag asked me who is my good friend now asked me yeah I was like telling them about the phone they're like what about these maps yeah the people are riled up yeah anybody here have any problems with the new maps nobody here has any wife oh this guy right here have you had issues you gonna return it yes somehow I got here not returning it though yeah you're just gonna power through it that's cool that's that problem yeah alright moving on there is there is other news yeah in the world I don't know if you've heard but we have some HTC phones here that are awfully cool looking in fact I'm gonna bring them out check these out I think I have to say I'm getting excited sexually about about what people are doing with starting to do with phones I mean for a long time not if you guys can see these then I made a vacancy rate they're made of polycarbonate I'll pound I'm gonna pass them down shape is not there you go I won't take I want to agree i'm gonna just give you that color instead i mean because you want the yellow one so these are not out yet but these are new windows phone devices and they're awesome looking am I crazy no they look great missin this to me is like 80s ski gear yeah which is is that cool that's cool right yeah uh okay too but they're really nicely made plastic yeah Oh much fun I just want to say like and this is not too big a base you see or whatever but I mean I do wish these had android instead of Windows Phone um but I just think there's an HTC guy in here right now actually crying uh I just think we need to get a little crazier with that phoned is I think Mike likes probably pushing the ease of color right colors you know Nokia's doing it as well I mean Apple can't be the only guys who are doing a cool phone design like it needs to end all right i can go i can launch into a big rant about this but i think if you're if you're competing with apple and by the way you are if you're making smartphones mmm you need to bring your A game Iran is about this in the podcast let's not you need to bring your a-game this be Selah I'm seeing some D stuff out there top just stop that what was that LG really they made a square LG LG someone who will not be sponsoring and any future out the herd is how it happens we can't editor actually the other two you want it you want to say about these my new phone bring give me a river the thing I've done is they look best together right that's true yeah I bios yeah I like the phone that i want is like this look like hello yeah like having one and like they just lonely without each other you want a stripe phone it's like it's like the Beatles recording technique where you have like two voices seeing over yourself and it harmonies what you're describing so harmony is it's it's you know John Lennon would do it cuz is with Paul with Paul McCartney know how Harvey which was owned voiceover solo he would double his doubling which one is reasonably okay I'm not gonna get ready teryn I'm not getting into the details at all anyhow I'm just happy to see my point is the iphone 5 is really beautiful but these are really beautiful too in a different way I think I'm thrilled I feel like you look at the galaxy s3 or for whatever it is and like it's like oh that's good it has a larger screen right that's empirically great phone but this is just like oh my gosh I need that right now yeah I mean and I have no use for the love to see what Windows Phone 8 is like yeah I'm not buying these right now yeah but i would consider buying them and that's the important thing well you know the rumor is that HTC is making the next Nexus device would you wait is that the rumor that's the rumor this make this the Nexus just put android on art whatever I'm not you're gonna get me a nerd rant and we'll be here all night as I ran ah so we should there's there's other little news we're not gonna get into that and I want to get to andy wilson cuz he hasn't really cool stuff to show off but as I said we took a trip but we didn't all take a trip at bryan bishop who you may know who did a lot of our coverage during the Apple Samsung trial went to ilm and sat down with people there and talk to them about you know creating science fiction everyone's very jealous in yes in film for film for science fiction films you know to me he made a film no question science fiction film yeah it's very cool check it out we've got brian bishop at ILM and we'll be back with andy wilson checks out we're at Industrial Light & Magic for the last 37 years I ulemas mates on the most well-known effects in Hollywood history have you seen the Star Wars movies the Indiana Jones trilogy all the Transformers films you know the work of ilm Jeff white was the visual effects supervisor on the Avengers and Transformers Dark of the Moon i sat down with him to talk about what first inspired to me get into special effects and a problem eilam had about a particularly colorful Hulk you know I think so many of us Star Wars and said okay this is this is where we want to work and you know knowing that ILM kind of was founded to create that and then just following it over the years and then getting a chance to get a job here was was really a dream come true let's talk about the most recent film you do the Avengers ruptures any here in the motion-capture stage where you said he'd shot a lot of stuff for that movie what's the process what happens in these four walls one of the great things about Avengers especially with the Hulk was having Mark Ruffalo come up here and do performance you know and we actually did several rounds of that he came here initially just to come here on the mocap stage and we showed him his motion kind of retargeted onto a hog very fast and loose so they could play with some ideas and at the same time we captured a range of expressions from him that we used to drive the digital version of him and an hour process on this one rather than just kind of jumping straight to the Hulk was to actually build the mark digital mark ruffalo first and and verify that when we took the the data that we captured you know from all his expressions put it on the digital version of him and then looked at them side-by-side that they would look the same so that you know we were really figuring out the difficult problems by having a perfect reference and then because the Hulk had elements of mark incorporated into his design which I think was a really great decision for this film we were able to take a lot of that same work and kind of applied to the hall sometimes I feel like you may ccg character's name will kind of like pop out from the environment they won't kind of blend in and he is seamless throughout that entire movie you know what steps would you take to kind of make him blend in like Max's it was it seemed a step above the stuff I've seen recently because the design was based on him he did a performance for every shot he actually came up here and put on the helmet cam and put on the you know ridiculous looking suit and went through the entire process and Joss could direct him and you know very quickly work through you know what the shot was makes him selects off that then we track all of that data apply it first to our mark ruffalo digital double again make sure that we had that as a good match and then apply it through retargeting process to the Hulk because the Hulk is such different proportions from Mark Ruffalo there's a lot of work in terms of you know taking his performance and then the animators really crafting it into you know what you see on the screen and a lot of hand on you know work in terms of putting that together what I think then helped us really blend it into the plate was when we were on set mark was there for every Hulk shot and so we were able to render the Hulk and stack them up side by side with Mark Ruffalo there and it was something that we kind of learned on Davy Jones from parts of the Caribbean is you have the real actor there even if you're not using any part of them just to have the reference of what do you know marks eyes look like in this shot in this lighting in this environment and then making sure that our Hulk matches that because a lot of times we would we'd put our same digital character in there we'd render it and you know like hey this looks great and then we'd start comparing it like whoa there's a lot that's off that we need to go fix even down to just the angle of the eyelashes could make a big difference in terms of your perception of the character and that kind of match so you know I think especially for the things where cg tends to be a big struggle like around the eyes where you're trying to put some thought into a motion into the eyes I'm being able to have that reference performance and was really valuable what are some other areas that are traditionally a struggle when you're trying to go and put a character together like that well I think you know for the Hulk he's he's a human and yet he's not only giant-sized but he's got green skin and you know we sort of joked around all the time that green is a really difficult color humans are very sensitive to green and differences in that color and he's in so many different environments he's down on the Park Avenue viaduct and he's jumping up you know stark tower to the you know outside and you know the the blue sky or the the building shadows would all change his green color to sort of bad looking colors we had minty Hulk and we had pumpkin Hulk and so we worked very closely with Marvel in terms of trying to make sure that his color was consistent throughout and that we also early on in the process Joss decided that the green really wanted to be a pretty deece a chewer ated grain and I think that helped us a lot in terms of making him look real because it's it's very similar in saturation to kind of a natural flesh tone so you know rather than something that kind of pops off the screen he integrates really nicely with the other Avengers that are there also Joss Whedon directing the avengers not something that had done a huge big budget film like that before what was that experience like I you know I was really excited to get a chance to work with him on this project and had been such a huge fan of his coming into it and it was it was really fantastic I think you know all the humor and that you see in the writing and that you see on the screen is what it's like working with him you know every day and you know he's pretty amazing at pulling out references to movies and artists that we'd be scrambling to go you know look up to see what he's talking about but it was it was a really phenomenal experience and I think the great thing that he brought to it was making sure that in the end the visual effects always serve the story that he was creating you know I think people really connect with these characters and then you know our job was to just make sure everything look good one of the really fun parts about working with him is that because he's such a fan of comic books to begin with he knew what people want to see the Hulk do and so he gave us those moments another effects supervisor influenced by Star Wars was Grady Cofer we talked to Grady about has work on the film battleship and paul thomas anderson's there will be blood so we got a call that there were there were a few shots on there will be blood that kind of sat in the middle of his movie and that was kind of the big country know whenever they strike oil in the middle of it and there's the big kind of the big geyser of oil and there were lots of ways to kind of tackle that kind of shot now for for Paul who's definitely a purist and and it really honors kind of the craft of filmmaking and likes the purity of the frame and all of that because I could have done this is a little early I could have done like a big CG simulation had done all of that and for that show that didn't really seem like kind of the right solution we kind of it was something actually a special effects for me was great had a pretty good looking kind of representation of oil and we did a big kind of we shot it as kind of a miniature we we actually sprayed oil up in the air down in LA and filmed all of these elements and it became kind of a large kind of comp of those kind of elements and it worked really well and it was all very real and meant a lot of the lot of the cameraman Ghana got covered with this kind of fake oil but you know it worked out in the end you had the supervisor on battleship you guys have a long history of great sci-fi movie special effects when you're taking something on like that you know was it daunting and you know and what is the process and some pretty good innovations you guys brought to the table with battleship it was daunting and you know a lot of that were I mean there was a lot of big ideas and this and that's kind of what you want you know when you can when you find a director who and Pete is definitely an idea guy it's like he it's kind of non-stop he'll show up in the morning and go I've got it you know get my previous guys out here and he'll throw out some all these these interesting things and you go down all these different kind of creative journeys and and like ideas and stuff but when he pitched it it wasn't just kind of naval warfare it was naval warfare meets sci-fi alien invasion you know on a grand scale on a summer blockbuster scale and and he wanted he wanted spectacle it's like he you know he wasn't shying away from it you know he was he's like I'm here I'm making a big you know mega summer movie and the way he described it was that these alien and this alien invasion they landed these ships called stingers which are if you look at kind of their their silhouette they're kind of based on like these water bugs right so they kind of hover or kind of a walk along the surface or float along the surface of the ocean but he wanted them to start kind of submerged so in their reveal in this kind of a big part the movie they all kind of breach up through the water then they splash back down that's already pretty hard right we know that that's that's a kind of a large-scale fluid simulation and that was going to be something we're going to wrap our heads around but as the the project we were in we were you know and in pre-production he said okay not only do they breach and they sit on the surface of the water but I want them you know I want all of these tubes and stuff underneath them and they they kind of suck water up out of them and then recycle it over them constantly like they're just constant waterfalls you know and you know of course you nod you're like okay that sounds great very interesting and we so we we kind of knew at that point that an island has actually great you know history of water show specifically they've done some really really groundbreaking stuff but maintaining that over the course of this entire show for a lot of it in broad daylight and in very very wide kind of spectacle shots we knew we were going to have to raise our game and and it was you know it was pretty amazing here at ILM because they you know they have a really really strong R&D department and so you get all these guys together in a room and they came up with a call it the battleship water project and pretty much over the course of columns two year they re engineered how we tackle kind of large-scale fluid simulations at ILM and and then how we render it you know render it for all you know we wanted to kind of represent water kind of through the entire kind of life span of kind of water from from from a big kind of splashy massive water to to you know to the little speedy kind of particulate that comes off of that to the little mist that comes off of that and all of it we wanted to be influenced by airfields and simulated kind of movement of vortices in the air was a huge huge project but the end of the day it really enhanced kind of did your experience of these stingers became a part of their personality you know Pete's mandate from the beginning on this film was authenticity right everything had to be very authentic and we were scouting the Missouri one day down in Pearl Harbor and there was kind of kind of hopman throughout the day that people wanted to have a bit of an effects meeting dockside at the end of the day so I met him and so we're kind of sitting there and there's this like you know wall to wall there's the Missouri kind of beautiful and majestic kind of filling the horizon and he said all right that I get that's real you know I feel that that ship your work has to look just as good as that I have to believe your work and it was I mean it was a challenge you know that's your pressure that's not right yeah but you know but it was great and it actually it's set kind of a high lofty goal for us and that's its kind of what you want you know you want to aim high well Grady thank you so much for spending some time with us it's been a real treat is to go inside of what you do every day and the facility and yeah thanks for tucking in soon yeah awesome thanks now I'm i was going to be fan of battleship personally but but i think yo I know what you're saying it's based on a board game maybe not that great of an idea for a movie but you've got to respect those water effects cannot mess at the water effects so I think we should bring out our guest he's a brilliant guy the principal researcher at Microsoft he's making some frankly bizarre stuff and I'm looking forward to this conversation please welcome Andy Wilson from Microsoft alright thanks a lot no pressure no pressure you have to one-up battleship oh you do that I'll try actually kind of low pressure ah so Andy these guys don't know you maybe they know you a little bit we did a video uh months ago like right here ago or something yeah then I thought was really came visited yeah I came to visit your home away from home your lab yeah which you actually do a lot of fun you do live there right yeah pretty much tell me what you do where how did you how did you start doing this and what do you do at Microsoft and give me your give me a little your backstory so I'm a researcher at Microsoft Microsoft has a big research group of about 850 PhD level folks doing research on all sorts of things I'm mostly interested in natural user interaction and different ways that we can exploit sensing technologies and display technologies in in completely novel ways and we make the way that we relate with computers so a lot of the things you saw there are prototypes where we believe very firmly and and building things and playing with them and to sort of finding our way through all these new things just by experimenting and trying as many things as we can and your work is I mean from what I saw and some of the stuff we're going to show today your work is really about I mean we're very used now to these kind of we have a screen or we have something in front of us we have some in our hand we interact with that we're kind of like going into that interface your stuff is like taking that interface out into the world I mean a lot of what you do is is it's like projecting on to the world basically in making the world the interface where does that where does that instinct come from I mean what is that what is the end game for you with that so that's right so so I like to call it beyond the surface Sam so I worked on the first version of surface and the one that used a video camera is the large 30 inch tabletop and so for me it's always been about what can we do with sensing technologies and interesting ways and for me the work that we've done with depth cameras for example you know lifts all of the interaction we're getting off of touchscreens out into the real world and that's where we really live we don't live in the the flat plane of a display we live in the real world let's bring the sensing and display into our real world I mean you headed up the surface project that when it was a large table so I did the very first prototype and a couple of us a couple guys and I did the first efforts around surface and building the first product it was a lot of fun was it painful to watch microsoft introduced a tiny tablet called the surface today don't really know it was very flattered that they decided to reuse our name i thought that was a great choice but now you can't call the surface to serve that's right there that's that there's that ring that does that hurts doesn't it a little bit you can share not is no judgment here in this room okay so you also incorporate a lot of connect sort of like technology and into what you're doing is connect the first I mean that's you know there aren't many consumer products that are actually utilizing the physical around you not yet to be is that the first step do you see that it's just like that you know Oh point version 2.1 of this absolutely is it's the opening opening move and a thinkin a great you know Renaissance and natural user interfaces you know people have been doing this research for a long time I was a graduate student at the MIT Media Lab in the 90s and what we were doing a lot of this hand tracking kinds of things and interacting with with things on screen that now you can go out and buy it's really nice to be able to see that move from the lab gosh just taken a little while but now it's like it's now that its commodity at least in for certain kinds of applications let's think about other applications where that where this would actually be useful can is this the kind of thing that you would find in a in a conference room at a workplace or gets me excited when I hear that with would we find is in a conference room probably yeah I'm working is there anything more exciting than something in the conference room I mean I know baby that's up here that's like you're in a fridge I know you're in bright orange on the conference room tech but like can we go to read what about for the home what about for the kitchen friend yeah kitchen is a nice one because you know you don't want to get your hands all dirty on the on the touch pad right so maybe you maybe you put that on the on your table top in the in your in your your kitchen counter you actually lay out the recipe and the things that you need and we have a we've had a few demos over the years on Microsoft where you it would be really fun for kids you set out the recipe and the ingredients for the recipe and kids get that and then yeah sure can I pitch an idea to you go ahead the kitchen let's hear it so I'm imagining been like you know these tentacles hanging down over your over your kitchen work surface and then you use some kind of motion tracking the tentacles are all full of different spices oh and use the motion tracking you put a chicken or something underneath and then you just kind of minority report the spices all over it excellent do they get something you could work on or absolutely we actually have complete make that happen I just can do for me we actually have some video stuff that you that you couldn't bring with you yeah this thing is called a Bhima Tron can you explain this is the Bema Tron that's the Bema Tron and so with that the Bema Tron is a pan tilt motion platform kind of like what you see at rock concerts with lights except we replaced the light with a projector and a depth camera and so what we're doing is projecting the car and the car responds to the real world just as as if it were a real model you know radio-controlled car and so by using the the pan tilt movement we can actually get all the way through the room we can project a graphic into this person's hand and move that that graphic from one hand to the other here's a shot another shot of the of a ramp guys a terrible driver yeah absolutely so so the idea really is to bring the the interaction out into your entire world so with one camera one projector in this this motion platform we can we can you know track these people there's we can project graphics on to this person and reacted appropriately she can actually pull graphics from the wall and send them from one place to the next and like a spice yeah sure for instance you do that you could track that the get the Korean yeah I guess exactly paprika boom tentacle down onto the chicken why not uh and then you have another one but you have another one that we have video of which is called the hollow flector can you tell me a little bit about this this is like this freak this is insane so this is not done on post right this is actually video shot of the of a mirror and I'm standing in front of the mirror and then I'm interacting with this this graphics and it'll be like the peppers ghost illusion you might have seen it and you know a Disney theme park it's a little different but we can superimpose graphics on to it and so it's really augmented reality but in a very large form factor and we're incorporating some some concepts from the phone here's you know maybe I'm doing a little holographic phone calls is actually connect record you that's you talking that's me holding yourself this is my little Maj to god princess land you know a little that's a little weird yeah so so but you brought something today I did in the end and we should take a look at it let's let's check this out what is it called what did you bring this is the wearable multi-touch projector okay I'm gonna come up with a better name for that is a wearable multi-touch projector let's check this let's check this out this is handsome this is nice now now now uh what did you say this is called again we call this the wearable multi-touch projector we got to come up but once she's got the predator the I mean it's kind of I don't know yeah a little bit looks a little bit it looks a little bit violin see this is kind of like a connect here it is basically like the kinect uses the same technology it's a short-throw version of connect right so it actually works in this sort of arm reach volume just the area in front of me and you think in the future everybody will have like a lenovo laptop hanging off of her hanging off of their side is that it is the future i feel like we build prototypes right and i'm just starting the projector there's also laser projectors that appears in a pico projector projectory okay great and so this is our this is actually our second prototype the first one we built actually just connected to it should have a desktop that was hanging off anyway so it brings like a full day meet our goals you have like a little assistant to carry next you're a second one of course if we were to consider product izing this i mean we would not have this this is but this is a really nice setup because we can actually you know right like really sloppy code and get that running on here and yeah and do all the experiments we wanted so you met your code is sloppy abscess fine nothing nothing wrong with that all right so show us what this thing okay what this thing does so when tell me why it does right so this is the idea is to bring some of the interaction into the world so we can actually co-opt surfaces in the world and I'm just going to lean over here and start this and it'll take a moment to start hopefully and just now what version of windows is this this is one of seven actually uh-huh so I'm so you have an upgraded yet huh nyan nyan interesting okay so we're using the depth camera to enjoying that completely exactly all right all right past it so here I am so I'm gonna touch this the wall here you notice that I get a bit of a menu okay it's a little bit like our supposes the new windows phone 8 i've been about so and you notice that as I move back and forth whoops they're just disappeared that's all right we can start that again and as I move back and forth that actually stays the same size we're actually using the depth camera to rectify or make it appear as if the graphics are the same size are actually the real goal would be to stabilize it so it feel feels like there's actually painted on the wall so what I'm going to do is show you a couple things there's a phone icon we can actually touch this and there's this ubiquitous slide to a mono ubiquitous that's it that is a patent case right there Apple are you watching because you can have to you're going down you're done yes I even bother I would ahead just I just find to take whatever money is in your bank account right now and send a pic yeah right so we have a dial pad here so we can do the kind of expected thing you notice there's the sort of red red ball here and that's showing me where it thinks my my finger is an actual phone number well I gosh I hope not keep going yes okay let's call someone and I'm just dialing a random oh he's gonna call the number cuz this actually capable of dialing it does not dying so that's that's just something we've been playing around with but it gives you an idea of the sensing technology that we have so we can do a few other things oh by the way it's multi-touch right so in we know what if my finger got in here what do it happen Scott you might try a min so if you come and you know yeah look at that it is working yeah I don't erase that yeah yeah absolutely this is horrible what you've drawn yeah I mean see if I can do me see if I can do something yeah so it works a little bit better if you come in from the side or a flat oh there we go yeah so and that has to do with the way the algorithm how we run let's give draw face but that's obliterated right ah you notice that I'm actually so I'm stopping each of the little demos when you by putting my hand over the cameras kind of a funny thing to do but it's a way for us to reset the system I'm going to show you a couple more things okay great so we have yours here's your map and again as I move back and forth Apple might want to also take out of it and so it's multi touch as well and so I can scroll around and there we go so that's the map and not nothing surprising there and then let me show you guys see the Hoover Dam on that as well as he was intact so there's a couple of other things that we can do one is the notion of being able to invoke an application just by drawing the space in the world that you want to see that see it and that's not be the space that you want yeah it's what you're saying yeah so can you tell me what that so tell me what the practical what you envision a practical application for this is what is it was a typical yeah exactly something like that so Ashley its currency converter that's great yeah so give me a prize so I'm walking around aight in the future when these are just commonplace yeah we'll give me a scenario where this is becoming you know I need this so a good one would be you know where we just met and we're you know maybe we met on the hallway and we're you know I want to show you something over here and i want to show you it in the large I don't want to like you know huddle around the tiny little phone right actually throw this up on the wall and lamb ajan that's bigger and brighter and all these things projector technology is going to get better of course then we can interact with this as if it were a real in a large multi touch display right right so it to the guys like a guy just met this nerd with this thing on it now and now you wants to show me something exactly that's right because everybody will have that well imagine it's a tiny thing maybe it's actually fits in the end you know in a button on your shirt you the entire the entire thing and a button on your shirt yeah you think we can get there I think I think so it really matter of time yes I mean all of these things that I'm showing you here are really small when you sort of take them in the women I mean the pico projector is just a there's not even a lands on a pico projector right show the audience turn around here I just want you guys to see you're seeing the back but do you see this whole setup here I mean the idea that this could get down to the size of a button seems frankly like a pipe dream are you on any dope right now but look at the size of the first cell phones right and look at what with her that's right now that's layer originally like this tall they'd have wheels on them I mean if you turn a thing o thing with a wire that came out you took a modern cell phone showed it to somebody from you know 30 years ago they'd be like what is this alien technology you're showing me it does look it does look alien well this certainly does Yeah right let me let me show you one more thing okay and so we set this and then I just want to give you a little bit of an idea of the processing that we're actually doing so this is just a display that shows the the fingertip tracking and you notice there's it's multi-touch and then as I reach in it goes from hover state to a touch state and its we doing two at once and then finally on the back out a little more time and real quick I want to show you the the nature of the processing that we're doing and this is this is basically just showing you the depth stream that we're getting from the Kinect camera Wow right I can I get in you can get in there right so you get an idea of some of the processing that we're doing you want to yeah I don't know I don't know what this was our exactly but that's cool though right shows you in this out there we go that's gone yeah I was gonna say far away it's too I was too funky for it which is a problem a lot of people feel I'm too funky and then and the sheets and the other thing that we've been studying is the idea that we can actually project onto anything not not just a whiteboard or a wall or something like that huh and and then we can we can actually track this you know this notepad for me I don't actually use that as this is why you tripping me out and so we can actually do slide to unlock now ubiquitous so I do unlock you band then but and then we can even do it on your back so it was a turnaround on my back yeah yeah so for example like where this is headed potentially joining to take my pants off we go I get this to work okay right so yeah there we go so all right this a little bit lower i have a little bit of back pain tonight Yeah right there is perfect there's rocky press really hard on your slide doma okay right is it so literally we use any surface available and it's a slide to unlock supposed to make you sexually aroused is that saturday all right that's very cool gets cut very cool just turn around here let me just uh Andy Wilson everyone Andy Wilson and his and and we never we never did come up with it we never did come up with a name for this huh gonna call it the sex machine that cool sure Annie thanks so much I stick around guys we have a video Paul took to the streets and asked people about what they wanted from sci-fi technology and there's a really one great interview in this video that I want you to take note of really smart awesome dude so check it out Annie thanks again thanks we're in union square right now and we're going to ask people what's sci-fi gadget do they most want in their real life I think it's the Minority Report touchscreen josh thinks it's a teleportation Michael Shane thinks it's you sniff pairs is that's what I don't know Joshua Topolsky oh hey I but I'm convinced people are gonna save Minority Report David told you to say that I noticed an acceptor we're gonna find out regular people are gonna find out right now we're gonna say teleporter what gadget from sci-fi would you most want in your real life teleportation machine teleporter I need the transporter from Star Trek but how to say teleport a time for taste convenient everybody's saying teleport a bunch of lazy people yeah communicator I would love a communicator yeah so you're able to speak to everyone and like sort of break down walls that they have I loved the Jetsons okay and I loved when she got up in the morning and she was ready in five seconds because the machine came over her maybe some sort of device that would take my thoughts and put it on paper the quick quotes quill I think it was what it's called I would want to fly who doesn't look like sure would it be a jet pack or just be like a super natural innate ability um I think a jet pack would be cool something that would subliminally reduce happiness just that if you wanted it you requested it you got it this is me happy right now the awesome picture I'll do a drawing of you guys it's the future draw me in the future where I'm happy you're not happy now well I'm so miserable where would you go right now got so far that's a good idea what if if you had a teleporter then you had like an hour of nausea after every time you teleporter that's fine you're sick or well it's better than six hours of nausea on a plane isn't it yeah but that's like lower plane bird maybe the gadgets within you you know maybe your are you a gadget what no I'm human being but this turn gadget being a mechanism to produce something is uh I told within ourselves you know I guess I think of technology is like gadgets like watches and wxga touchscreen so bad for me I think people are just people just want their lives to be better they want to love each other they want to be in Hawaii right now they want to end slavery of the mind and I am literally and I think that's pretty awesome but I still want a hoverboard Josh teleporter teleporter that's what I want you're here for ISIL Shane says he wants a holodeck percents that's pretty good my dear nice Paul Neil I everyone just let me be let me be crystal clear okay Paul ramp to me on the street I was walking to the office and he said what technology people want from science fiction and their real lives I said teleporter I was utterly said everyone is going to say teleporter everybody wants the teleporter out every ball would not listen to me he fought with me there were some fisticuffs anyhow screwed up knee light we don't know what I just want to point out I was right I knee like we don't we don't have you ever seen would you want the great Mel Gibson science fiction film what women want I figured I'd of guy I really thought here's a battlefield earth which is actively we should all everybody should watch it right now no like if I could read mine so be great you want to read mine yeah earlier I thought we talked about that before and you said you wanted an invisibility cloak yeah then I thought about which is I think a very creepy thing to want would you I just want to be able to be invisible like why for what reason can you think of any reason is it heinous to be invisible huh think of one reason that is not diabolical to be invisible you could you can't rob a bank Linus I vote is you're high you're so shy um but I eyes are from Baltimore hide from Voldemort is that what you said that's like a user like a real consumer me I mean do you have to drag us see the harry potter talk edited with every conversation you would you would want not to be invisible which is gross i was thinking about it but to read we need to read people's mind wouldn't it be great to like just also girl i get a keynote event and like like really know what Phil Schiller is thinking like he's like God the foot weird used for cuz what I was going I was just think about all the places I go where people tell me one thing I know that they're thinking or believing something else like she's thinking like crap it just has a bigger screen like that's probably when he's like x-ray icons yeah see I would go to a lien or not by would go to apple before yeah the announcement mm-hmm and I would use it to read the minds of the people who are working there yeah and then I write a story about yeah and Paul what would you like for what would your be you know what would your science fiction invention be if you could have in real life I just wish I could I was at a time machine so I could go back in time and when you said like everybody's gonna want teleporters like i would say i would have listened to you because you know because you're my boss and you're my friend and and you don't lie to me you're trying to help me you were trying to tell me the truth true I don't like were you doing this I'm in the middle of something very weird oh I also want to have hoverboard yeah everyone oh okay fine oh the shoes that man what the shoes that what Marty McFly she's always were a race of them so alright okay alright okay are we done with this thank you for acknowledging around how just how deeply wrong you were yeah I appreciate that okay so we have I just turned this card over here we have one thing one other thing that we're doing tonight that is a something we haven't done before and it's kind of a big deal like the snorgtees girl nobody knows what I'm talking about let me let me explain we'll never we're never gonna get through this unless I explain there's a company called snorgtees what there's a company called snorgtees and there was a period on the internet where every site that I went to there would be a ad on the side that had a picture of a girl and it was like snorgtees and she was wearing shorts said I'm kind of a big deal yeah and so now whenever I system is a big deal I in my mind see the little banner ad of the store tease you know what some things you just should keep to yourself yeah yes that's a weave I think you said we'll never get through this and less like unless I I think we would have gotten through fine anyway okay so so here's here's here's here's the thing we're gonna show you a video of of the three of us driving around New York in a car and then and then I'm gonna tell you something kind of awesome so watch this new york is an amazing place and I definitely don't spend enough time doing things so we're gonna take the Ford Focus Electric out and see what we can do in New York on a single charge this whole car is basically a gigantic video game I believe Paul will do the best at not only winning the video game but surviving the video game I'm trying to drive much more efficiently than I'm sure nialaya and Josh are driving I'm sure they're just doing doughnuts so there's a lot of cool information in this dashboard what the most important thing is the butterflies the butterflies represent how efficient your being and I'm gonna be the most efficient I'm thinking we're pretty close to the Guggenheim this is the most incredible pretzel I've ever had so where should we go next you know the best part about a car like this is the smug sense of superiority I'm actively saving the earth Keith left onto Maurice Avenue all right Denise let's go save some baby pandas oh my god what is happening ahead of us film this my God look at all those motorcycle errs what is going on this cars the future and this car is very clearly the past it's an electric car we're test driving an electric is all electric this car okay yeah we're at Prospect Park right now you take a little breather and regroup please say a command call Paul Miller what do you think your car's name would be like um like little buddy little buddy you have a very different lationship for the car than I do fine her name is Denise and you gonna make it funny right yeah spent the day driving down to thirty percent of the battery 26 miles left to go that's ivette still just one butterfly but I'm coming for you in the ill I I'm coming please say a command good bye Denise goodbye forever and this trip has inspired me to see more I'm gonna latch my teeth on to this city like that like a vampire onto the neck of its victim and I'm going to suck and suck until the city is drained and when I'm done I will fly away like a bat it's in the form of a bat yes ah so I know you're thinking why why are they driving around in the Ford Focus Electric we were test driving the car for you not you guys here just don't get too excited we're giving away a Ford Focus Electric yeah to a reader of the verge it's a forty thousand dollar car I just can I be clear it's very expensive and actually does short is giving us one drive it well to give away and here's how we're doing it we're gonna hold a contest whoever can catch the most butterfat no ash mail us actual bodies of butter we are going to have a gif off a gif gif away yeah or Jeff if you're from Canada uh we when this goes up here's we're gonna do we want people to make hilarious gifts out of the show this show and post them and then the editors of the verge will pick a winner whoever made the funniest gift we are so vain yeah we're extremely vain and then that person will win that person will drive away in that car we're making it easier for the game material you bake let me explain you could be creative you can do whatever you want it's just gonna be based on the show and the winner is chosen by the editors of the verge we'll drive away a fly way in the form of a bat in but also in a Ford Focus Electric which like they're not even out yet so uh so yeah we're giving away a car which is the most expensive thing by far we've ever given away we don't have to have a raffle and we don't have to have a refugee sorry but everybody here's like you're gonna raffle it off right now right I have like a wanted 150 chance of putting it uh and that's our show now that's our entire show i want to thank Andy Wilson Paul O'Neill I obviously and you guys for being here thank you so much and of course our sponsor forward for giving us a car that's pretty cool thanks so much we'll be back next month