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now Julie in this studio the lovely the delightful or so I'm told Paul Feig here good you and I can borrow I you know it's actually I had a pen I'm sorry a moments ago I know well now it's gone forever like that I like that you go in on the attack yeah throwing on see exactly that's a technique yep Howard and I lay back that's it now you have control right this is right I'm now in the catbird seat why I don't appreciate that oh yes sir you're a man of many talents mmm director yes sometimes I producer actor occasionally a creator of beloved television shows and other exactly author yes true that I say yeah I know my publisher would rival but but to me the most interesting thing about when I was reading about you and I did several weeks of reading before I'm sorry the most interesting thing is that you were on you acted in the first season of sabrina the teenage witch certainly did and you played a character can you tell me about your character I was the biology teacher mr. Poole and they asked me what would you like your first name to be and because i'm a comedy genius i said gene so I was dr. gene pool they actually went so they went for it see what year what your resist this is a 1997 this is melissa joan hart yes played a teenage witch yes she did named Sabrina Sabrina and you were her biology teacher you she was in high school yeah yes right he was cousin there's a talking cat on the show oh that's right voiced by a nick bakay afenifere comedy aficionados I don't know Nick one of the funniest men arounds also has voice a cat on Sabrina well there you go so how could you not be so tell me about that experience I mean first off were you was this a dream of yours had you been thinking yes I want to get on the Sabrina the tester breed of the teenage witch is not was originally a film right it knows a comic strip I was a comic comic book okay okay a graphic novel the kids call it these I don't think it was another Greta graphic Robin almost like it would be a compilation process or a storyline I'm just a graphite no but you and that's the kind of joke see the heat but how did that happen and can you tell me a little about your experience I mean in a skirmish orangish ownership it was not kind of a Jojo was it you know it's you know I was an actor I'd been on I've been a regular in like four other TV series that all got cancelled in their in their first season Dirty Dancing the TV series no that didn't exist it did you were in you were in it yes you play this way Z character and this of course I can i play baby ya know I was ever you're not old enough to remember this but then you go well I don't know because you're autiful looking man thank you that's not totally uncalled do you are but no they need to be like when they would make like the the Partridge Family cartoon of the Brady Bunch cartoon and they'd always add like a dancing panda or like a singing bird and that was me on the show cuz I was a character that was not in the movie I was you were enormous yes I was I should have been a birth I was Norman the comedian bellhop oh okay so you were like I knew you were a new character I was a highly licensable new super glue what network was the dirty dancing show that was on a CBS I believe ok how many episodes oh how many do we go I think we went 13 or 18 but I got this job that's actually a lot of episodes well you know I mean not for American television back then but it was almost a full sees right but it's the first time I they're gonna be a regular on TV show and I got it and then a writer's strike happened that shut down the town for eight months so I had a job you couldn't you couldn't write they couldn't be like hey you know how to relieve that are you you're on the show it would have been processed across it in a figure I would never do that yes so so I SAT around and then it finally came out dirty dancing yes not Sabrina the teeny no no I'm feeling I'm Craig is I'm not taking about I'm actually far more interested in dirty did you have to dance in it they tried to get me to dance but I refused was he refused to dance on the show no no there was a scene like there's it like it was Patrick Swayze and now that Patrick Swayze was um Oh Patrick Cassidy failure said Patrick Stewart knows Patrick Cassidy plated the Melora Hardin who I actually ended up moment years later I directing on the office as cuz she was Michaels a girlfriend okay yeah but they were doing a sexy dance and I they had a reaction shot of me in the doorway and the directors like pretend like you're into that you're kind of dancing with them and getting turned on I was like I'm not gonna do yeah yeah I like to getting turned on yeah no it's not to be like oh you're not just dancing I just into the groove you're actually sexually around one either I'm dancing dirtily right okay we're saying on theme you know was it all dirty dancing the shoes I filthy this network eight o'clock on this Tuesday night they're like if is a clean dance of this show we don't want to go down we don't want a person so if they're solo dancing it to be chummy masturbatory ah so so that's a dirty Dan see didn't work out right then there was good sports with ryan o'neal and farrah fawcett tell me about that yeah that was a rhino Neal the the amazing and then slightly wacky Ryan O'Neal a heavy is a reality show with Ryan O'Neal's name oh I think there is nine and Tatum oh let's just say this that not that show was the subject of a true Hollywood true a hot behind the scenes whether that but the scandal fill 10 some Verna no signs of that company e true Hollywood story yeah and they interviewed me about this show about yes good sports oh it was a little less volatile be supporting sports themed yes what can you just give me a basic outline it was Ryan O'Neal was a former baseball star who was going to be a commentator on this network I like the setup and I was leash I was the guy in charge of him but I was on goofy character I see and then comedy interested in baked it rose this is again not has nothing to Sabrina really no cursor button huh I'm what I'm winding you through my I like resume no no I like it the digression is incredible exactly saying we're gonna get back to like your birth oh no time is good that was caught on film you actually auditioned your audition oh yes I almost I almost lost the part but uh but uh yeah so you were the biology he was a biology teacher yeah I let's just move on gags ah cares about that so do tell me you've done all this stuff your preference is there one thing that you love more than all the others oh dude to do in terms of like acting director I like you're producing you like to wreck a bass I gotta push people around can you see yourself just being a director just in forever until you yeah so you don't oh yeah I mean I was right and I get them very well in the writing and some things I actually write myself and other things are you hired your have these amazing writers I work with right I like it it's is an actor I was very limited let's just say i only get so many skills in the director is really the boss yeah you're in movie making depo right you are the main story teller and TV you're sort of the facilitator of the writers write these great scripts and you can make it better but you also when they say like no I wanted this way then you go okay that's fine is there any person when you're a director that you can't tell what to do uh sighs like the pricing the producers web in the studio when oh yeah I mean here you are as a movie director York occasionally fighting everybody I was looking on the last two ones i did that everybody was pretty cool but um no I've fought some period victories in my time ya Yin just didn't know you win and you're like well nobody hates me yeah it was all worth it to get him in a red shirt so so director would be your preference yes you'd like to die directing yes but not anytime soon he's the scene ends and they look back and there's a skeleton hanging on yes sitting at the director's chair I'm run over by a crane and they go he wouldn't want to go that's how that's yeah I never I say he would have wanted to go that way i don't think i would have wanted to go whatever way they think i would have why we gonna go just quietly in my bed yes not like in the like dick Shawn remembered the comedian dick Shawn no oh I'm so long dick shots that's like a made-up person enough okay it's a madman when the beginning of a joke man you guys dick Shawn the track but he died on stage performing and he was a funny guy neither one man show and so he did the money collapsed on stage and people were laughing for Loretta red fox this isn't with red fox no didn't really I think he had a you know yet cuz this thing was ongoing oh oh no you look like another big one oh I Denny d I think he actually this could be a connection I might be propagating an urban legend did you die eating pop rocks no he can't pop rocks and soda and then that he was doing his bit right and they died in Vietnam that's right you grew up in in that's very good you grew up in the in the Midwest yes maybe it's Michigan in the Midwest it's tech I need we say Midwest well that doesn't that doesn't feel Midway all of we hipsters on the to coast it's basically like it's you know la the Midwest and then New York so it all falls into there but I think mission is very Midwestern there's a mythbuster and Sensibility I guess I'm not cowboys and we're not you know no Michigan Cowboys well ago there's million milligan milk it hello where I'm from there's Michigan militia oh yeah that right fast those are people who are preparing for the to fight the government in the game the hammer comes down yeah exact you do any of the names than militias there no I don't cuz I'm afraid know anything about them you don't want to get 20 bone again oh you want to research that money on the internet I got a weird tweet from the Westboro Baptist yeah something like to me like watch my clip or something's like why am I me and I went to see if it like a mass emailing no it was just me so wait a second somebody i order says he'll pay for the Westboro Baptist Church there was something i invested some on twitter is something you they considered liberal or pro-gay and something and then i got this thing it felt a little like well the Westboro Baptist Church they're awful people yes exactly i mean they're just the worst yeah i mean it couldn't be worse yeah and yet they tweeted they're tweeting they retweeted you know they tweeted and I would've ridgeway me see the heat it stands for to everything is that the Westboro Church represent their awful people they love that turd joke so that would serve that they're weirdly there weirdly open to ask at humor yeah well do anyway you know there's nothing I Hitler was a nice painter Hitler was a vegetarian he goes I don't one of us he was it I don't think he was very good pain no he was also nice to his dogs get to see well that's what you hear yeah it wasn't all back so someone should've put s him that's where had it that will edit that out that's gonna complement of here that's about the ultimate publicist who handles Hitler and get some good press I know that's the ones right you hear he was a vegetarian and yeah and he was nice whose dogs there you go that house of lies get that gun I don't mean that going for him there so you grew up in the middle I want to continue IDK you grew up in Michigan yes uh tell me about was it a middle-class kind of like very American wearing a collar my dad on an army surplus store so that's awesome it was cold you have a ton of amazing army gear when you were good I I got to play with it all I mean that was like the store was my my playground but also it was it was hell on earth because at the age of five my father made me work at his store really so I was like I was child labor that's illegal it is illegal and he made me work I had an entire career before I was 18 and this was in an era when this is so long ago but this was in a narrow way I know an army-navy store would be or an army surplus store you can actually get really dangerous stuff there right Oh like now they've been neutered somewhat you can get like a camouflage jacket well it's all kind of gone but this is the day I mean they kind of coming out of Vietnam yeah look at me been in the eighties you could go in and get oh yeah grenades and yeah imagine you should get in the 70s it was all fresh from the arm from there's like we're not using this anymore yeah here's a here's a bazooka my dad's old cop cover from what he was in World War two hey is it a visible it's a real weapon yeah it's it is I said I my finger of its day okay if you will okay listen you just didn't sound real when I said it wasn't like you call a weapon a bazooka and it does not sell it sounds like something that people came up with in the 40s when nobody knew anything and then like what should we call that no I don't bazooka breakfast it makes a lotta Renly yeah if I was gonna kill by something of a zucca wouldn't be so what can we yell when we shoot it how about bazooka so ah so it's froak let's talk it so the reason I was asking by your upbringing yes uh you created the show Freaks and Geeks wildly popular well now now you know let me finish okay wildly popular now not popular in its in its time mm-hmm how many episodes did you did you get to do 18 of 18 episodes exactly the same as dirty dancing uh I think there's a connection here and I'm freaks and geeks had a lot of dirty dancing on it good they did behind the camera but buddy guy who got cancelled yes but what it was on NB NBC NBC we had the honor being the most weeks the lowest rated show on NBC right do you think but freak but it's very beloved down yeah napa love that I was actually watching last night I wanted to refresh it in my mind and the thing that struck me most is that it is in standard definition it does it is dr. a bike for you and it is jarring yeah you just keep thinking what's happening no it's like watching throughout you hold yes it is it's incredible what we tolerated I know during the freaks and geeks era I know I hope they just stretch it so everybody looks this is what horrible where we so found it really aged badly uh you know honest on that front I did a pilot not that many years ago right before letterbox took off and they were doing things but we they wouldn't let us shoot it they made a shoot on three by four because they would occasionally get letters from one or two guys who had like a big screen TV and I got really mad or no a small screen that they got mad that it was you know they put the bars untie so they felt they were being ripped off from their entire to oh yeah I know my father would rather watch yeah he would rather watch them without the oh yeah let the letterbox because he feels he's getting more yeah even though he's not right well you know he's old he's older though hey can't really hold that he gets it so so do you think but do you think so TB has really changed though since freaks and geeks yeah was on the air and obviously people love it obvious i mean i think a lot of people consider to be one of the best shows ever put on television it's nice let me know it's a fact accepted do you think it would if do you think that show would have had a different story in this day and age if it were on if NBC had that show today I don't think it would have because now the business model is kind of if you get an entire season than you know people will binge watch it right when they might not necessarily watch the first season so I think we were so critically acclaimed at the bet we would have at least got another half season given the dvds kind of chance yeah yeah but so does that does that make you feel I mean obviously you're having tremendous success in film yeah then we'll talk about your film work in a little bit nothing um several hours later we're gonna get to you yeah I still got the rest of my shows to go yeah i know i was on a show called yeah what do you have another show i was before whatever you say is going to be the Jackie Thomas show was Tom Arnold's show much Jackie Thomas the Jackie Thomas who played a character named Jackie do yes you did you did it was on after Roseanne and we premiered it's the number two highest rated show and we were cancelled we were the 14th highest rated show so I think what was the cancellation that people didn't like Tom Arnold with it really he was very much there something going on with him and it just he had married Roseanne Barr and she was the most successful person and I love Tom he's the greatest guy and he just was unfairly accused we got cancelled and then he had True Lies and suddenly everybody left Tom are ya so that's interesting it's called the feet once again you guys luck here right there before the time was right for tauriel exactly but then and then I'm the launch pad yeah you really are I'm the kindling they gave lights you you did light your rocket I'll be really you may for all we know you may have kick-started all of modern television its roots and geeks yes well and you've read us very few of the benefits none no no almost not know but you have done a lot of TV you've done a lot of directing yeah on TV besides you're you're very deep acting career which goes back several hundred shows it certainly does haha failed and weird shows um but you've directed a ton of television yeah you've done you did an episode of 30 rock more than one yeah no just 1 30 rock what happened there they didn't want you back oh you know Alec go Alec Baldwin's at all yes and yes exactly no it was fun a great on you he leave nasty fine I believe the quote was uh you got to knock it off with this Truffaut man really yeah it's did he say that said it but he was so you have a real Lyta maneuver real be for that we might even know I certainly do this is real no I certainly do that i love the man'll take action on a big to trust me i know i don't know but sure there is well those i've had action taken on your beef oh oh god those jokes the heat in theaters no heat isn't here right now it is my trench i feel like i don't know anything we're just glowing okay it's good we'll edit that out yeah oh so the more the office you did a ton of episodes of the office yeah Arrested Development yep another show really killed in its prime brought back to life yeah what's your take on the new season you have not seen it yet up its really up I've been out on tour for four weeks I've got the scene do you feel like were you left do you feel you've been left out of the news is of course that it's a dare they how do I not use I've got a beef with oh yeah gonna be with everybody know what I love those guys I honestly I love those guys so much yeah but you haven't bet you haven't had time to watch this no no but I will so you directed an episode of Mad Men yes which is a very kind of a departure for you yeah unless I'm mistaken but you've done a lot of comedy ya know Terry true i mean what in the episodes from the first season yeah it was the one where I call shoot where she becomes a coke bottle and then she's shooting at the birds the Navy she agents she being Betty Draper Oh January Jones yes okay yes I shouldn't I only think there's Betty Draper and and did they and what was the how did that come about how to joined up and um he got sent to me the pilot got sent to me and I thought it was fantastic and Matt Winer turned out he was a fan of freaks and geeks and so he wanted me to do one and they were very very nice and it was fun I had a great time and that's where I got to befriend ham and you know Jon Hamm time John oh god I hate all my family that's right I'm sure I never had him before I was on this out of those wonderful the sandwiches the canadian eh eh but i do have great yes examine everything that cast was so great yeah it was fun there's lot fun do you but how do you feel at me is drama something that you're interested in as a no but i but I face comedy as if it is drama you always tried they have a dramatic underpinning you should like be able to be crying yes I do exactly with laughter that's right but you know yeah you have to have like a serious story and then you make it funny and yeah but it but to just tell like a turgeon's you know story where he's crying it's like that's not like life we all make jokes nah maybe not your life well I don't just wanna speak yeah seriously so so do you do you have interest and creating new TV shows I mean I mean you seems like there would be some fertile ground there oh yeah and now that that people agree that that unions yeah freaks and geeks was excellent I mean TV isn't the greatest place that has ever been I think I think we were honestly in a more of a golden age that it was back when they called it a golden age just think of all the shows but it's also because of they are open to the serialization of storytelling right which i think is a better it's a way to tell the story so nice adik shows annoying yeah you know and they're just not i know they're not as exciting to work on because you're just like reinventing the wheel every day you have the same cast a chimeric Monster of the Week yeah exactement yes well as the x-files monster-of-the-week don't drive my very annoying because I just want to see the x-files story unfold oh well have you ever seen the x-files no it's about an FBI oh no I i have seen the XY I thought you meant like there's I thought it was a bigger the bigger so bigger is like a movie that was here total yes no I'd like this Gillian Anderson yeah David you got be great very funny guy actually he's great funny in that show yeah I didn't work with him I I'd like to maybe if it's funny a funny sci-fi no yeah well I'm all would you are you working on anything new for television would you be interested if we're developing a few things they are oh you talk about them here of course not can you just tell their age no I will say there you will there is one with a sci-fi been to it I like sci-fi curly and I don't feel always been enough sci-fi comedy I mean there there was a recent attempt there was a show that was about a fail at a family of aliens that move to a neighborhood oh that's right and people i took it was called something like the family or I want to be out now ders family sigh I like these gears on family ties don't offend the next generation know the space gender that would be actually pretty good that would be awesome yeah you're on Twitter yes I am now that's gonna go a hard pivot rocks with man hey I thought have been you're on Twitter yes uh you have 1.3 million followers it's like first up how did you get 1.3 million followers how does that happen I got in early yeah I'll tell they give me a pen I will tell you exactly I happen but it can't happen again I'm afraid because I came in early on it and rain will I was working on the office Rainn Wilson said hey way if you're gone twitter I'll tell my followers so immediately at seventh oh oh but what happens they put me on this thing work oh you are suggesting users list so every day like every week I got thousand more for a reviled person I know exact winner I have suggester suggested users list was a highly controversial I know move on the party no time to benefit which gave power to people like you hmm who would probably abusing it oh no totally so I man's up yeah there's true though now you now have incredible power you know pretty much anything you oh yeah I can i huh so do you see Twitter I mean there are people who use Twitter as a comedy platform guys like Rob Delaney for instance hoots really made a career out of Twitter as a platform for comedy do you see it that way do you use it that way oh yeah that's my favorite use for it i will occasionally self-promote on it but i don't like to do that i know guys you've been doing a lot of heat promotion I know a lot of you and I'm suffering for it because you see the numbers dropping but yeah but at the same time the studio's like can you put it out there but I it to me twitter is being a comedy man yourself you always had the joke the notebook that you carry around and you write like funny thoughts I have a smart iphone app on my smartphone well okay in the old days yeah do carry notepad you have a something not anymore no I used you use your phone yeah okay yeah I know yeah but but there is many years when i had the pay give you write stuff in there then you'd put it away you would put anyway wow that's to go like i have a funny thought to put it out of its why do I actually right I have I do tend to write down uh I'm gonna get I shouldn't say this cuz it's a great idea but I'm gonna tell you an idea i wrote down the other day then right now and no I I wrote down I did exactly what you're talking about which is um I'll just say what the idea is an unexplained at Jewish terminator that's it and you can just admit you just you just figure out Jonas take it's not not violent okay and I'd violet yeah I guess I should to expand on that a little bit keeping out the Terminator has a heads-up display yes where he's evaluating what's going on who interprets it in a marvel to return the Terminator is Jewish yeah that's it let's move on wow so so uh were you when you were in I mean obviously freaks and geeks at base off we're going back to prefigure man oh we're car be really 23 minutes into this and feels like I'm so hot goodbye heat stress and everything there's two of you rises rap let's just wrap it oh I my pants sorry forgot to tell you here too yeah I know I knew it we have that one thing what happens but but but well this is sort of related to the twitter stuff and sort of the rise of nerd culture yes i mean i think in some ways freaks and geeks is now it now makes more sense because people better understand nerd culture and sort of geek culture which is really risen to be the dominant force in popular culture yeah when you look at the movies that are the number one movies right it's it's Superman and and the Avengers and just real star trek just incredibly nerdy stuff yeah that even 10 years ago was was still sort of breaking through no I mean I credit the internet for all this stuff mean when I back when I was a kid and you know we got all our my geeky friends you always felt like am I are we the only weirdos out there that like this stuff and you have no community the minute you have an Internet you have this community that empowers you like the weirdest stuff you're into yeah there's a bunch of people just suddenly like it seems not only not that weird but kind of popular oh don't know then you're cool doesn't got this cool all of my weird sex stuff oh yeah I thought I was the only what yeah who knew you'd get you guys a people huge gas man zang it like pick up huh that's right oh you're your cop brother how are you but I'd a look down here by the couch give me a baggie and a nice looking there were lonely days hi that is good stuff please stop being fun especially just read more but but do you think that freak sing but freaks and geeks obviously was really it was really about nerds I'm were you a nerd were you a nerdy kid you know I mean I was geeky but here's the thing we had like in our school we had a few like nerely hard corner DNT like the reality or know like like carrying briefcases around there looking scuttling does it doesn't businessman well exactly Oh years ago that they were they were wearing like three piece suits and had a briefcase I'm the date when I graduated I was given a briefcase that was a graduation that's an ox and a pen and pencil it's an amazing graduation that we used to be that was the worst that briefcase now holding my iPad so yeah that makes a lot of sense yeah but you weren't it you weren't like I really know and we were we were just kind of the group list group you know we kind of were into Warner Brothers cartoons a Monty Python and we were too afraid of girls and so we just kind of hold up their lunch table I had the kind of Naruto oh no yeah I'm not saying we weren't there wasn't a nerdy you're a key nerd okay not god I'm trusted I was hard no I don't know I've just died it just seems like that that that and there is something about in your in your films as well bridesmaids for instance you know the the main character is sort of a weird nerdy outcast in a lot of ways yeah you know a doesn't who doesn't really fit in yeah um I like you can't even with even with her friends yeah I did a lot of spiders in the awkward that's something that we all are though very few people even the cool people i think don't feel like through that you look very handsome people i think well maybe not that very good-looking people i think don't have I think there's a fear of maybe when that starts to go off the rails but it's not when not in their prime right but then there's no they're like they're like looking around and going I'm not know cool no but then imagine being very beautiful not that you're not too very handsome man but thank you Jeff but just shocking i think all the time what if i were shockingly beautiful how much easier with my life babe I I would like to know and it's like if I were a woman how many of my life I didn't hear all these how much harder so what all the supermodels are always like I was such a nerd of something I think it's a modern thing yeah every talk show now somebody comes on beautiful yes actress or model and they go I was such a nerd in high go I think that's become a blanket statement I think the Nerds you're talking about the guys the briefcases and the D&D people the real nerds I think if you put them side by side there would be an astounding difference between between the the real nerds a fake nerves i really don't you even suggest that to me that there's that's not found thought I think that's good I'm trying um so let's so listen and we do need to wrap up but I want to talk a little bit about I just mostly be get the era and here i want to keep I could keep going to sweat but I do want to talk a little bit about because you do have a film mmm that you're now promoting aside me you haven't promoted it except for the couple of times during this interview yeah islands at once oh but the heat yes tell me just give me the give me the outline of the heat tell me what the answer now the female a buddy cop comedy there you go okay somebody's losing Melissa McCarthy the amazing Muslim McCarthy wonderful and hilarious a Sandra Bullock yes and then a cast of other hilarious people yeah so on the clip their bill burr and Chinese Janie hallinan Tony Hale is in there is a hilarious thing up front that you will not believe um yeah then you know Joey McIntyre Joey McIntyre from New Kids on the Block who is hilarious yeah that's you didn't see that coming no yeah I even who would who would could have imagined bad enough he's talented and handsome and now he's hilarious chance and rich probably Oh talk attend go ahead we're just k ot but all the rest of us sure he's really has it all go yes or he did have that Gulf of like 20 years there were wet in between new kids on the block well and this you still jump out you've got that's true he's still gently um so this movie though this has been a big people made a big deal about your portrayal of women in movies and that you're not this is not it's not a how should I put this it's not a traditional they're not traditional portrayals in the sense that the female characters are really fully fleshed out real people yeah that you know and frankly for Hollywood that's unusual I know that's what's so crazy is it right that's a weird again give are like can you believe the carrot like these characters in brides are smart and funny and acting like all the women we know in real life right how dare right do that so what is it why is it why did you crack this where is that I mean what is it about you that that gave you this sensitivity and insight into the female condition I have a very item of a very feminized man yes aiiah does that mean I I grew up around a lot of women my god I grow I was an only child i grew up next to a family of eight kids and six of them were girls and they were all my best friends so I hung up with them all the time and then I the bullies in school so I drobo it was bullied of course how could you look at me yeah but I always would run to the girls and going okay no part of the propane out that's the boy and I know I understand believe me oh yes I know him practice running to the girls not yeah they were fun and we laugh and I was in drama club and all the guy so I I just always knew women and I always kind of liked how how funny they were and I was like kind of making them laugh and they made me laugh and it just this feeling and then I'm watching all these movies their guy dominated something like the funniest women I know are in it they're playing just like a mean girl friend got funniest yeah why doesn't she get it be fun isn't that I mean in some way this might get you I don't know if this is a sense of so did but Judd Apatow has this he's actually been kind of gained a little bit for his characterizations of women that are a little bit that's three dimensional right and not not the technique but in you know the character he's been baby 3d movies everybody's 3d but the linen I realize something to that feeling but but uh but and you and Judd obviously have worked together know each other does it did you see this did you think you know was this hey there needs to be an antidote to some of them you will judge ahead you know Jed was responsible for putting for putting uh bridesmaids together right and Ken's because he worked with Christian and said she should do this so he was already kind of in it I actually felt cuz I I love him he's kind of like my brother I felt like he was a little falsely accused in that way again he's just trying to do I mean they're really me by comparison to comedies that have come before Apatow stuff these characters are wildly flashing out total you know I did feel kind of like oh this is cool guy can accomplish what I want which is like working with a bunch of funny women and they crack that open but also kind of show that look judge what if his names on something it doesn't mean like it's all you know right misogynistic which is not right but if that reputation was there that was silly but was it was it was it did you did you think this is something I have to crack or did it just happen because this is the movie that you wanted to make it was a little bit something I wanted to crack because I did over the Pinot Lindsay we're and freaks and geeks is one of my favorite characters ever you know created so I had other projects that had like female leads in Hollywood just going no you can't because people won't go to see that they always had like some reason and you go okay and then finally started going like wait that why is that a reason it doesn't make sense that they're half the population of the world that is a great point there are a lot of women in the world all right okay final question yes we have gone way longer and I've enjoyed every minute of it thank you and more than my more than I expected to be on and you're you wear suits constantly is that you're a very handsome address man thank you sir uh what tip can you give someone one tip 12 if they want to be a great looking guy mmm every day of the week yes what's your what's your advice it's not about how expensive the suit is is about how good the tailor is so you can buy a cheap suit go to some guys spend a little bit of money to get tailored cuz I guys although I don't yourself comes to expensive not an excuse you can go to the thrift store and you can buy a suit and just get something to tailor it nicely for you and then you will look like a million bucks that is an incredible piece of advice thank you so much oh thanks so much really thank you