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Samsung Galaxy S9 camera tests, wearable keyboard, and more!

2018-03-06
hello welcome to circuit breaker live the verdict added show so show where you play this gadget all the time I am you like to tell us Paul Miller hello we have a packed show dancey friend standing right here I'm here but wait for Dan we have packed show them and tell you all about it Dan we're gonna talk about the DA cs9 which is here Donnie is gonna join us we got a bunch of new kinds of wacky musical instruments to play with Paul it just says you're gonna teach me how to type that's what it says insulting very confusing you've got a lot to learn neela Jake and Ashley are gonna do a circuit breaker we've also got some videos to run the middle the very exciting so some surprises segments segments you know what those are called packages the pros column package or the packages we're gonna listen to our I FBS through our IMS mm-hmm first we are gonna talk about the GS 9 which is as we said last week it came out last week at Mobile World Congress in Spain dan did our hands on video the launch now you got him I got him so I think we're on the top-down camera here right I want to play a game this is very good with you the YouTube audience I think this picks along the way these are Galaxy S nines and Galaxy s8 hmm I want you to type to me in this chat the s nines are on there they're physically located these are the small ones these are the big ones the pluses and the pluses and the regulars the s nines are on one side and the S eights are on the other side just type left or right which ones do you think right there loft no you have to guess so you just vote in the chat here type left or right look the right if you think which I think the nines are they wouldn't let me the only I did well let me flip them so the pluses have two cameras is that some of these phones have extra icons like this one is like a weather but also it looks like it's like a link like maybe you connect to the cloud with that button I don't know so I'm assuming new phone more feature that the ones with the icons so therefore the two left ones are ass knots that is my current theory I am going to say that asking people to pick a 50-50 choice is resulted in a 50/50 split most people are saying left okay that's right now much people are saying right okay oh man this is crazy okay yeah they're saying the opposite of what I'm saying there's several people are saying what is the truth the point of this is from this side they work a virtual a dinner yeah all right so two to give the answer so Paul I'm sorry buddy so well you didn't I mean like they basically do look exactly the same there are some really minor differences at the top you can see the s8 you can see more of the front sensors they like blacks them out more on the s9 Samsung cost us more immersive I call it maybe like Oh more sensors on the s9 well there's the same amount of sensors let's see that's the other thing it's like technology wise they're basically the same there's same amount of sensors you just can't see them as easily okay and then the other difference which I don't know if you can really tell from your angle anyways but the s9 has a matte finish on the metal frame and the S eights are glossy so that's really the only front difference and then the other one I should say also the speaker grille on the s9 is a single slot and the SI you had this like but the other is stereo which just means that it uses the earpiece speaker as a speaker in conjunction with the bottom speaker just like the iPhone does HTC does bunch of phones do that one of my favorite features it's great yeah it's like the fact that Samsung didn't have this until now is kind of surprising like they're actually catching up one very important distinction on the back correct so on the back the on the smaller models the big distinction is the movement of the fingerprint sensor was up on the camera by the camera on the s8 it's now down below on the s9 and then on the s9 plus you get a second camera so you've got two cameras like you found on the es no date last true for the price of one you well I'm sure except the largest crater you get a free extra tip sure it's like Costco all right so we people ask us questions in the chat about these phones we're just going through them number one question I've got some tweets here this surface is 80 today but the number one question we got was about the cameras how they work if there's better yeah garbage what's interesting to me and we were talking the show last week they have now have a mechanical aperture mm-hm so this can step down from they can close the aperture it can open it's wide open at 1.5 F 1.5 we're just brighter than any other set the sort of on camera I think we've seen yeah and then you can stop down to two point four which is right so actually the way it works by default is the opposite it starts at 2 4 and then Samsung software will open it up to 1.5 based on automatic settings but that's a hardware thing that is a physical Hardware switch you can see we're gonna try and show you guys this on camera but we're having a little trouble focusing this earlier the right now it is wide open let me open up the camera app it's because if you go to the pro mode you can alter this so it is wide open now Paul let me know when you're ready yeah and I'm gonna just I'm just toggling between them what's your listings very hard to take photos but there we go ok so you can see it you can see it like switching it's almost like me which is which that's close so this is closed and now it's open yeah open it's almost like the filters dropped in you can't like actually do any of the apertures in between 1.5 and 2.4 it's one or the other and a fair like my mechanical lens is going from between it's like you can pick a range between well sure well no but like you know one point five into point four is roughly a full stop that's you know in terms of light in terms of photography so a lot of lenses will give you third stops in between that's kind of tangential the point is this gives you more options than any other phone on the market and so Samsung says that when because the F 1.5 lens lets in so much more light than the 1.7 on last year's phone that sometimes when you're outside in really bright conditions it's too much light and so you close it down you let less light in you get a better exposure the backwards so so what do you what most what most phones would do in a little bright situation with the s8 does what pixel does etc they're just gonna increase the shutter speed so like it's the shutters open for a shorter amount of time and you get the same exposure even in bright light the other thing that a smaller aperture can do is give you a little bit greater depth of field or more area in focus but with phone sensors they're so small you already have so much in focus already there's really not much so our friend Walt Mossberg tweeted me earlier today why do they're side by side test photos I've seen so show so little difference between two fixed aperture settings so that's part of that is the depth of field isn't really not that much different and we've got a couple examples I think we can pull up there you can notice an exposure so if you guys can see this this is shot at F 1.5 I don't remember the exact shutter or aperture off the top my head so you can see this is this is shot at F 1.5 if we could switch to the 2.4 the next photo now this is shot at F 2.4 with the same shutter speed and the same ISO you can see that it's much darker because you have 2.4 let's in much less light so it's about one stop of difference you held all the settings constant just switched it just switch the aperture for that okay so if we go to the next photo so this is at 1.5 again this is with automatic ISO and automatic shutter speed so what you would notice here is that this part is is pretty blurred out this is pretty blurred out in the background and things like that but it's sharp up front and if we go to the next photo it's a little bit Morgan it's like so this is shot at of 2.4 with automatic is on automatic speed so the camera compensated for the smaller aperture by raising its ISO or sensitive we go we go back one photo yeah what's interesting to me so most when you think about shooting in low light you want that wide open aperture to let in more light and more light so you can have a fast shutter speed it's not exactly yep Samsung is saying literally the opposite here well they're saying that mechanical aperture is to know is to knock it down in bright light yeah it's funny that they're that they're pitching it that way because if you use the camera in automatic mode it defaults to the F 2.4 aperture and only opens it up when it needs to whereas like most automatic cameras are going to open up the blends as far as they can go and only close it down when they need to yeah like you were saying but the camera works a little backwards in that in automatic mode which is kind of weird and then the other thing I would say if we can take this fullscreen I just what everyone to look at this photo it's hard I know on YouTube there's all kinds of compression happening but if you just look at this photo it's still to my eye looks like a Samsung photo and say Samsung photos we've now done so many photo comparisons you can just see it they're hyper processed they're a little bit more crisp yeah I we do all kinds of processing to smooth things out the noise on this is really good like this was indoors at a coffee shop obviously it's not the best light in the world but there's like this is at F 1.5 and the noise reduction is really good that's one of the things that Samsung worked on this year is to reduce the noise but it's still like you said has that Samsung look and I think a lot of that has to do with the way it processes things the way the color is rendered mostly and and you know certain times that Samsung look looks great certain portraits look really nice with that and other times you know it's different I don't have a pixel comparison here with like skin like one of the Samsung problems sometimes will just smooth over so on the rear camera it doesn't do that as much on the front camera by default it smooths your skin out and it's dry you can turn it off but like deep by default it's gonna like totally make up your face basically so we should talk about the front camera suit because the back game was really interesting Ruben and the chat is asking pixel to excel or Galaxy S line regarding the front facing today so the interesting about think about the front facing camera is exactly the same as last year it's the same 8 megapixel camera it has autofocus it's basically like the only camera on the market has autofocus on the front and it does have a portrait mode but it's not as good as the pixel two is earning with the iPhone hence in my opinion but you can see if we can switch to the front cameras selfie so by default it can't will adjust your skin tone and adjust the color and so like it'll it'll in like it yeah I don't like the front camera I really don't it really really can really let your skin and then it has what they call selfie focus which is their portrait mode on the front yeah so would you say it like overall I mean you've only had it for a few days yeah but it seems largely the same with the addition of a wide-angle lens and it's like an S 8.5 yeah like I mean it's it's the it's the iPhone 6s right it's the iPhone 8 it's it's the same design they upgraded the internals with newer more modern stuff they added a few things that you don't have on the prior model but it looks the same it feels the same if you close your eyes it's like you're using you know deshauan the chat just point also focused on your no not ch no not Samsung one of the few manufacturers this year knowing with this symmetrical design watch end a headphone jack and a headphone jack so you don't don't need to get you could just take these and like them to hell get out of here yeah I feel like my decision hasn't been made why would I get any other phone in the world if they're not gonna have a headphone jack and I mean I this the s8 I will say the s7 in the SI well the SI I think was prettier - the fingerprint sensor I think they set a standard for front design mm-hmm Apple had to meet that with the 10 way they did it notch a side thing but no one else is close even the pixel it's not just as a smaller pixel like I don't know it's like the level of fit and finish are really nice to like it's a very well polished this is something important to me because I I do kind of want I'm kind of looking for an Android phone I want a smaller phone and the pixel is notoriously bezel forehead and chin have a big big big for its any metric is insisting that we now use ya screen to body ratio yes which makes me want to die what's your screen about something so great it's beautiful hardware the cameras a Samsung camera people if you like it you're gonna love it right it's gonna be improved I think you're like me and you know I think the iPhone in the pixel are just a little bit nicer it's really comes down to the look and like if you don't didn't like the look before you're not gonna like it now it's like an aesthetic choice but it's here's what we always say about Samsung phones great hardware most features so you stick around for big speed running this software and like it's just the same as ever right there's two web browsers yeah so few messaging apps there's two assistance to web browsers to to to app stores to gallery apps to email apps to payments apps things like that like and certain things are better than Google's like Samsung's internet browser I've been sitting for a while is better Samsung pay is better than Android pay but the point is like most of them are not better and then like you have to have both so like it's a whole bunch of folder of Google Apps and a whole folder samsung absence like nice that you can corral them like that but like we got to talk about it to assistance on the phone and to assistance right one of which is a maps to a hardware button yeah there's the big speed button okay so this is Bixby home which is basically like Google now one of our great reporters editors said the big forgotten is hardware bloatware that's where he's at with Vic's okay tell us what they're trying to be unimproved so it's it's gotten a little bit of a facelift it's a little nicer to look at but who cares and it's it's slightly faster but it's still slow and then in the camera app Bixby vision they call it where's that has gotten a couple of new features you can do makeup with it which is kind of crazy so you can do like different so there I am and then I can like buy that makeup directly from Sephora horse are you kidding me why else would it exist wait go back to the makeup looks this is great yeah so there's that you know it's got some you know text things or whatever but for the most part it's still Bixby it's still weird it's don't lower than Google assistant so let's just try this it's voice of Texas not as good its whole thing is that it can actually operate the phone for you yeah we're supposed to be able to operate the phone for you so you can be like turn Wi-Fi off and it opens it settings oh nice turn Wi-Fi on wait it's great turn Wi-Fi on and then Dan was showing me earlier we can just tweet from his account Twitter and tweet I love Bixby it's my favorite that's not great oh we got fucking experience points it didn't do that at all so that's that's like the greater pitches of big speeds that it can go into your apps and do things keep your voice right there it has been trained on my voice so Dan you do a tweet about how much fun you're having being on the show okay here's some ideas my good friends Paul of me like they're great to hang out with your damn just do this we open Twitter and tweet I love Paul and Neil I great Paul enable great yes is everything oh there you go so there's a part I was expecting a big speaking there's a part of you that says it's upcoming it's like it can do actually controls my big problem with it is that it's slower than just using the phone hmm like it's easier to open Twitter and just type that out and here's the other problem I'm just me reload everybody every time I hear the word fix like this is a high-end beautiful polished device and the assistant is named Vic speed which literally makes me think of a dog wearing shoes who is a butler it's like a clippie it's like Sam we've been telling you on average has forever and last week I asked people to send me pictures of a dog wearing shoes and producer Creighton literally started a tumblr Bigsby shoes tumblr calm and we have a lot of fan art of Vic's PE here's who's this one this is I don't have a name on this one here's one this is great Paul here's your cheater ass submission yeah I didn't draw anything okay it's just a look really good fun it's a good photo here's this is my favorite by far Ricky tweeted this one of me I this one looks like he opened a door that's a phone I like my phone I think he's walking out of a smart Samsung Refrigerator yeah that's great this one's pretty good he's holding a tray that says stuff and this last one this is great so here's the art this is from Cameron on Twitter but then he showed us his process which was a video which he the dog the dog it's a real toss-up you you tell me who should win the prize we have a clear winner is a Cameron yeah I have to say I'm more impressed with Bixby than I expect it to be but I would prefer to just turn it off yeah so you can turn it off now you can actually go into settings you can turn off what they call pics be home but you can also turn off the button so now the button does nothing but you want to remap natively no there are apps in the Play Store that you can download and will let you remap it until Samsung pushes an update and then it breaks and you all dance again well it seems Samsung does not give you a native way to remove it so it just basically becomes a fidget button oh yeah but between this and you know the pixel and the fourth fine pixel these those feel like the old man droid phones plan everybody else is doing bad weird notches there's a lot of notches out there and I say I'm not gonna buy an android phone with a notch that it I understand why maybe maybe I would if this is so good but this does seem to be a very good phone it's an excellent just loaded with Samsung software yeah we've got to decide if there the other thing is that like you can't rely on Samsung to get the next version of Android any time soon so like I'm gonna get this name wrong I apologize Johan in the chat says is the Irish scanner compared to comparable the SI is a quicker are the same it's the same they do have a new feature that they call intelligent scan which combines I were scanning with their face scanning function and will determine which one to use based on your conditions it's very obvious you're trying to eat face ID but it's still slow it's still kind of clumsy and awkward but thankfully the fingerprint scanner is easier to use so yeah you saw the fingerprint scanner so I'm not totally like you know what about Samsung's emoji they're real bad yeah let's look at these real quick and then we got it so we they're called AR emoji and they're that is supposedly made you it doesn't believe any special tech it's just using the front-facing camera so you can see the tracking is pretty it's just creepy and the tracking is really bad and things like that here's Ashley I can be Ashley I think Ashley's looks way better than mine yours looks like a real jerk well I guess that's that's very and then they've got these weird animals I don't think no this one is but that one is like a stone dangling to the waist one what what is that I I think it's a bear I don't know I got yours up here so usually an evil cat compared to what Apple's doing with an emoji which is very restricted inside of messages an emoji are not in the camera app on the iPhone right it's inside of messages they're actually hard to get out of messages this is just in a camera yeah so I could take a picture some more record I think you'll see more of this crazy machinima stuff yeah it's just easier to get out of really creeped out the other thing that it does is it creates all these reaction gifts based on like it creates your an emoji and it makes a whole Pixar's Pixar's got a new food and it's about like parachute like sports people right and so a studio rushes to market and that's a direct to DVD release of their fake knockoff parachutes sports people movie I call this stuff samsung couldn't help itself we're gonna take a break from the s9 for a minute at the very end of the show Dan's gonna come back we're gonna take your phone calls dangerous with your questions at the end of the show Dan will be back to answer those questions I'm excited to see how that goes next mmm Paul I'm told that you ruined one of Dan's home video about it here's my big fear I don't like do pranks on people because I don't want to be pregnant and I broke my own rule but Dan was really chill about it so please watch this video of what I'm calling it watch this way back with a circuit breaker hello I'm Paul Miller welcome ok Dell says it's new XPS 13 won't be stained by mustard or permanent marker guess who got a Dell XPS 13 today dan cifra and guess who has mustard mustard dad's at lunch look at this beautiful laptop be a shame if somebody put must let's give a shake a little bit there a little bit there okay just a little bit oh look at that beautiful Dan will never know nobody has to tell the hmm just comes right off okay that was some that was and nobody has to know okay all right I'm here with the world's bravest human Ashley Carmen Ashley thinks I should leave the mustard on the laptop you definitely should leave the mustard on the laptop what if Dan hurts me okay okay so I just put the mustard on just walk away yes okay this is um this is how peer pressure works you just do what other people tell you to do okay that's so clean oh gosh that's the gross that's the grossest thing before you sit down hey how do you feel how do you feel I'm honestly a little grossed out it's disgusting right it's filthy do you guys think it'll steam here you go this white texture finish on the XPS 13 is is mustard proof and now I'm regretting telling Paul that for obvious reasons it's on the internet anybody can read it just a few minutes what kind of mustard are we looking at here you're supposed to be able to leave it on for up to a week well you know in the few minutes that's been here I see I see no no issues I apologized oh but you guys did this to yourselves so dude are you you're not mad at me I'm never mad at you Paul this is this is what true camaraderie and friendship looks like everybody and smells like smells like mustard smells disgusting that was beautiful content it's really beautiful I'm an enabler and I feel good about it what other laptops are good for muster your honor you should just put it on every laptop that should be our test the Verge's signature laptop test you're the bestest yeah mustard test yeah essential all right now it's your time for the best part of the whole show right it's a circuit breaker so you've premiered this one a couple weeks ago and now we're on our third week we're here last week you asked us many questions we picked them out one of the questions we have is actually demand we'll get to it though and we want you to keep asking us questions so please tweet at us you can leave comments on the YouTube video like go for it and the chat you could go on Instagram we have so many places you can reach us just send us a message ask us a question Jake and I are here we're here to answer your questions perfectly nicely but you know yeah I mean we take questions in any form it's true all right so our first demand or actually complaint is that last week we talked about Nintendo's the Nintendo switch in various accessories we didn't end up getting to the cases and I'm sorry about that but I've brought a couple cases here with me today to explain to you how you should look for a Nintendo switch case so I own a Nintendo switch and I actually don't have a case but that's just because I'm a rebel and I don't respect my gadgets and it's fine dangerous I've carried it your helmet on a case and my backpack and just let it kind of jostle around in this noggin they don't do that just don't do that so I pulled a couple of my co-workers who are way more responsible than me particularly creighton who is our show producer and he recommended this case the unique hardshell case I've actually taken this case to Mexico with me before he let me borrow it during a family vacation and so things great and the thing to note about this case and I think the reason Creighton chose it is one it has hard shells it's protective also it has a sleeve here where you can put different game cards and there's a pocket so you can keep a massive battery which is what Creighton does or joy con or whatever else you want to keep in the pocket I will say that while this is protective it has lots of room it is massive and pretty took out my entire carry-on so you know if you have space go for it but if you don't have space I talked to Chris Welch a news editor here at The Verge and he has this case from a company called Tom talk that's the commuter slim case it's way thinner but it's a little hard but definitely not as hard as the unique one you'll see in here there's no pocket so that's what it's missing it does have a little game card slot here but there's no place for you to keep a battery really his switch isn't here right now so those key things I think you'll want to look for if you're looking for a case is that pocket if it's important to you if you think you're gonna carry external batteries or something like that or if you plan on carrying enjoy cons if not if you're just like purely a commuter you're on the train or something like that maybe you just want a slim case that's light and easy to carry around so we have both options for you here that case looks fantastic for just throwing in your bag yeah this is great like this is definitely what I would be worried about yeah this is what I would go with purely to keep your screen protected I would never carry I don't I can't it's like a pelican case of like switch it's like it's huge its massive so next we have a pair of questions about Android Go Android Go is Google's new stripped-down version of Android it's meant for phones that are really low-end like under $100 came out on a bunch of phones last week and we've got a couple questions the first is whether go apps are available on other phones and so part of Android Go is it's not just the operating system it also is bundled with a whole bunch of apps that are supposed to be optimized for lower end hardware so that they'll run better and the answer is sort of yes and no some of the apps are available some are not the good news is that two of my favorite apps are available the first one is files go you can download this on any phone and you really should it's it's like basically the file explorer that Google should have included with Android but didn't it recommends files for you to delete and it just is a really easy way to look through all the images the songs and so on on your device that you have probably forgotten about so this is really great the other one is called date Holly and it's not strictly a go app but it's gonna be on some go phones and it's made by the same team inside Google that makes the go apps and this one is for tracking your data usage unless you quickly see how much each of your different apps are using up lets you you know lock them so you can say I don't want to Instagram to use any data right now or and it'll only work over Wi-Fi it is really easy to use it's another good one if you're trying to make sure that your device doesn't you know use up too much stuff so the other question we had is why isn't Google just making all of its apps optimized so they run faster I think that's a really good question because you know some apps get really really heavy but the reason why that goo why Google hasn't done this with all this apps is because some of the you know it is optimizing them but optimized is like a really big broad word and so in some cases that means stripping features out if you try Maps go wood you can download a new device it's just like Google Maps but worse you just should not download it but if you try Google go you'll find a completely different experience because it's been customized for different markets where people are just coming online and the search box looks basically as foreign as a command line so you're gonna get different experiences in different places the only unfortunate thing is I wish that YouTube Go was available in other areas I think that's another reason that you're not seeing these expanded YouTube go has some of the paid features that you find in YouTube red so I'm sure there's sort of a monetary thing in there too that's for us be sure to you sent us more questions for next week and now over to da me with some musical calculators Hey Tommy's here everybody she's more of the musical calculators you have like a selection of crazy new instruments I have so many fun wacky musical instruments I want to show you guys I'm gonna save musical calculators for last save the best for last but we're going to start with the otamatone I think a lot of people might recognize this this has been around since 1998 which is kind of surprising I've never seen one of these in my life okay does this sound familiar to you so this is created by a Japanese design firm yes he's got a little face like he's saying hello to you but yeah we have a picture of me ah danke the Japanese design firm behind the otamatone and that's them right there they're super dope as you can see I don't think you can buy that one but the the automatron is available in different sizes and colors I think they have like little keychain versions of it can you play a song on this I personally cannot you can try if you want to but there's three you can play it in three different pitches so you can set it to low mid or high high is like kind of mid and I'm gonna hand this over to you and maybe you can play a little song for us a little bit earlier and think about the last time that somebody invented a new instrument like straight-up just invented like an analog instrument that's what Yamaha did last year with the Vinoba this is like a cross between a recorder and a saxophone and they like to market it as a casual wind instrument as well as you can see on the screen there you just take Nick's like on the go yeah what makes it casual is easy to play or is it like globe mate it's like super lightweight it's like made of plastic I think so it's waterproof I played it in the rain if you want take it anywhere go back to that one this one is weird because she's like you suck at the vanilla this one is carrying a duck yes I just I don't know that you want to just roll around like throw it in your purse oh you never know when someone's gonna asked you to play the vanilla bar yeah I personally I don't know how Yamaha offered is done someone who and you gotta play but you Crichton our producer was like we got instrument before my life but yeah this uses like a synthetic like plastic Reed if you play like a clarinet or saxophone like you should be able to pick this up pretty easily is that a docking you're like no this is $99 which i think is a pretty good price disposable necessarily call it Yamaha introduces the disposable saxophones lightweight you know it's no pressure but yeah I'm really excited to get to these musical calculators I ordered these from Aliexpress these are my personal calculators it's the AR 7 7 7 8 you can also order it on Amazon for 20 bucks but it's everything's in Chinese I had a little bit of trouble reading reviews from some youtubers yes so I found this on youtuber called it's a small world and this person is like a master at it she was playing for calculators at a time she was playing like the Super Mario theme song so thank you to her for being my inspiration I think I've seen this video and it is absolutely amazing amazing so Wow okay so you can play like almost two octaves as you can see the time and date is here maybe that's all shake everybody close your eyes remember January 1 2005 full-throated us what was happening I have no I was doing I was in high school so yeah yeah anyway you can also use this as an alarm clock so you can wake up to the sweet sounds of a calculator I also want to point out that every time you put in batteries it places jaunty tune or is it supposed to be yeah you can absolutely do that it's just like for accountants with dreams are they sneak into work I just bring my regular important important note on that is their headphone jack I will be taking your requests in the chat there are some sheet music just a bunch of numbers no way yeah it's a lot of songs I have it any size I reckon you know maybe Chinese in the comments can tell us but yeah they gave us all a lot I mean there's one with a lot of six six sixes oh okay that's the devil's music yeah yeah so you have to kind of play around with it and now we're back to the songs they don't play the calculator um yeah so I can play Smash Mouth um All Star I've never been more excited so you wait you've labeled this one yes so this one I'm really trying to learn this I labeled it with my post-it know it's still raining fossil s you know I'm gonna try by the way Rashad request sandstorm which is obvious we got more you got more people cliffs of Dover and then Funkytown isn't here nah I'm leaving my dog I'm gonna become a musical calculate I would like to the verge that if you were going to quit the way to do it is to show up on the show future careers that calculate I'm talking my hidden talents incredible Express if you're willing to wait three weeks 20 on Amazon alright and then what's the channel I should check out to watch people like freaking out on oh it's a small world also I saw somebody do a duet with himself with this Disney cutters oh yeah really polygons video editor is really good at playing the Vinoba yeah yeah okay that was incredible thank you so much Tommy if you don't know Ashley actually hosts a great podcast called why'd you push that button with Caitlyn Tiffany is also an emergen there's they did a first season 2 episodes you can go listen to you right now their second season started today mm-hmm and we have a little trailer for it so we're gonna watch that when I come back and then Paul just keeps threatening to teach me how to type which is something I already know how to do basically the next mom is speakin so watch this we're gonna come back and play some key words have you ever ghosted someone so I'm not proud of it it's very immature of me this is a pretty typical New York hosting story he was ten minutes away on his way texting me and he ghosted this shit I mean yeah it was fun I had a nice time but I mean I know that was really good I wasn't really looking for a relationship or anything really bad a lot of people he was like text me and then he was just like keep texting me and then at one point I realized he was having a complete conversation with himself one on one day and I thought the day went really well so then when she goes to does never really love people do it to me because I think it's a big part of my anxiety where I'm like I always need to have an answer like God chairmat like so then he found me on Facebook and then he found me on Instagram and then he found me on LinkedIn part of you is it's like are you dead maybe something actually bad happened like months into the relationship he dressed like throbbed all ties I've never really had a terrible date or I've had so little respect for a person and I was gonna stop talking to them because thought this isn't worth it I realized I was completely incapable of telling people that I didn't want to see them again I feel like there are tears too ghosting first date you're fine second date I feel like me you can do it beyond that I feel like you're in dangerous territory I've been like minorly ghost it on before and every time I'm just like so my message like you know what if you don't want to hang out like that's cool there's a lot of strategy involved if you're wondering what to say like I just didn't feel the spark cuz that's kind of it's not like a bad thing about them never gave in never again I will not give in will not why'd you push that button is my favorite podcast on this planet if you must absolutely listen to it also I have been a horrible ghost in the past I just want I wanted you feel like I ghosted you but you went into this other emotional zone no I was like didn't do the bit that hit me really hard oh you were ghosting I was trying to get in you were supposed to react a deeply emotional point this is a the tap a tap strap sometimes is called I think it's just called tap it's a weary honey energy fronts again at the end of all this we're gonna take your calls let's get the number on the screen oh yes nine questions Dan's gonna come back and when answer your questions from called is a one eight four four four emotion yeah we'll see okay I came up with them come back all right this is the tap and wearable keyboard it's a bluetooth keyboard and mouse the mouse part is not true yeah but uh so you you tap to type so like like this is AEIOU there's different combinations of fingers like D em Z so I'll do a little my current on my phone oops but we've already started so this is like a little speedrun just type in ooh this is pretty is really gonna keep like a virtual keyboard in front of you are you courting it chords I'm making shapes with my hands it's like almost like just shares a little bit but they're taps and so I'm gonna make the right wanted it's almost like sign language in a sense well I mean the double digits very reason why is that like so I've got some some phones with keyboards remember there was a time when parents had keyboards I think the weird Android sidekick they made yeah this is a very strange phone or blackberries remember blackberries the anyways you could feel what you were typing mhm with a software keyboard you can't and so if you want to input text on your phone you can always use your voice but if you want a discreet way to input text Moberly but what I'm really excited about is is wearable computers like stuff like Google glass or whatever the future holds for what we're gonna actually wear on our face and will we have discreet text input or will we always be using our voice so this is obviously we're not going to do this joke I think I was like 2008 okay this is the twiddle ur keyboard this is in a sense of a very simple concept you're making finger combinations to make the letters out of a limited set of keys it also has a joystick for use as a mouse and this was used by a lot of the wearable computing I think we have a photo yeah so right here this is my personal hero fad starter who has been basically using a Twitter keyboard and a will wearable computer since I don't know the 90s wow this is Steve man these are very very very important people they're still working on photos from the 90s yes that's very nice looking at sort of the Birkenstock should finish on the jeans over there place them you know people always say the 90s are back like it right this this could totally be on my Instagram right now okay okay so anyways this could be the keyboard that I've been looking for yeah it's a tab keeper so I want you that I want you to try it yeah I'm into it I'm gonna teach you how to type since we've been teasing that this whole time all right there you go so you got some brass knuckles they just go past the knuckle here yeah all the way up up here it comes in two sizes and it's comical you really really need this is the large and and it's infinity war okay okay so here okay a little tutorial okay so what you wanna do is you're gonna float three four and five okay alright alright so then temple five to proceed there you go okay all right doesn't work perfectly so this is this is one of my biggest problems with it now you try to curb curve I want you to heroin yeah so it's not like you're typing on a virtual keyboard you're kind of making these gestures but this tapping is very important and sometimes because it's you know it's using motion detection to figure this out sometimes it doesn't quite figure it out and so I think this like learning system is amazing it built you like learn some of the letters in time it could get mnemonics you're doing figuring is already hacking my very quickly becomes let's do some new letters you've got this one so that's a e i o u so let's do in TLS basically the okay the more common letter is the easier it is to there's a songs really great songs but the print in so because really good positive reinforcement you get it right and really good negative reinforcement when you get it wrong but sometimes you make the correct shape but you've just moved in some slightly incorrect way and it can make it hard you got this space is all five fingers at once it's the period is a double space like a mobile so why would you so this is like here oh wait okay okay okay okay yeah doing it yeah I mean that's annoying when it gets a problem it's weird how quickly that I seem to have learned to this alright it just goes right into your braid yeah so we're Neela and I are both left-handed you can you have to switch it with software to which hand it's gonna be on so but if you learn it on the right hand it's mirrored so thumb is a index finger is a key middle fingers eye so forth this is weird it's weird how quickly whoa oh you're type of words now you're basically a typist you can type words like laughs sass so how much is this thing this is a hundred and fifty dollars yeah and there's a bunch of different apps for from mobile there's like they have games they have this these learning apps like they've kind of reinforced both like the physical capability and the actual typing capability I mean just that was weird that I figure out you ever watch you play video game on the show I'm usually bad at them but that was weird well someone pointed out to me that in a sense it's kind of like learning guitar chords okay it is a chording keyboard a sense okay I'm gonna do the ultimate test I'm gonna try to type on my laptop yeah and I'm also gonna try to pair something on bluetooth we're gonna get a sign that says days since last place you fail because we're it like one Hey okay so there's a few things here so like these three fingers is delete returned it's kind of weird they're inter so I'm gonna also really don't like how to type my name so the P is kind of a weird shape so P a you is so your idea is G is a tough one is that what yep God Wow so I've been practiced for about a weekend okay on Friday the idea here is that you wear a computer on your face and you and I type and you so you just walk up to service here's the thing I'm using this hard surface right on their commercial they use it on a lot of soft surfaces like they're using it on like someone does it under a table on her knee or someone does it on his arm so like and I especially the more complicated letters are really hard to do on soft surfaces which kind of almost ruins the entire point I think about Twitter it doesn't matter what the surfaces but for this you want to be able to take notes while you're just out and about hanging out yeah and you can't really do it oh the other thing I wanted to show you the mouse okay should I ask this is the optical sensor so this surface is what slides on the table and it just does not work so just like now it's typing accidentally there's like a right-click there's a scroll gesture I had the inventor of this demoed it for me if he could barely use the mouse he kept on saying it's really impressive how good mice are these days as an excuse for why this is so bad but it's really hard to use as a mouse so that's kind of a bummer to you okay well I'm excited about this hopefully they can keep improving it with software there'll be some software updates yeah and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep practicing maybe do a little bit of typing on the go like okay Dan is back that was cool the taps I'm very interested in like new input new interface ideas Dan is back he just wandered over to the archives Oh to get the phones and I am told we have a call look you want to call us you can call eight four four four three six six eight four six we'll take your questions call her on the line talk to us yeah we told we have to wait we'll see we'll see if we can use this phone technology all right caller talk to us oh hi I just had a question about the same thing dog vf9 camera yeah okay so my question is how in the marketing they're talking about how it the cameras like reimagine I just wanted a Batman that the phone was actually like the camera was actually much better than made high-end smartphone cameras but it was just like the frame that the camera is the camera hardware which we bob yeah hey what's your name man goal always you saying it cool oh sorry a little fuzzy all right cool I'm what Danny answer this one but I'm gonna tell you my gut instinct is that as just a marketing tagline so yeah that's the thing with marketing you have to understand it's all marketing so Salmons gonna are Samsung's gonna try and market this as heavily as it possibly can and use all the words at once the reality is they have done a lot of work on the camera it's not just the new switchable lens they do have a new sensor that is a lot of more processing on the sensor itself to do reduce noise and image artifacts and things like that and it also does things quicker on the sensor to do that kind of processing so it should produce better images than the s8 or last year's phones is it dramatically better than any other front of the market no is it better at all the other is it better than pixel to what would you know it's a lot of personal preference at this what would you say reimagined refers to I believe what they're referring to is the ability to switch the aperture because that is that is an entirely new thing that we have not seen on other smartphones these do have image stabilization on both the front and the rear cameras so at that all I carries over from the sa optical image stabilization yep yeah I think the thing to me as well thing is having the mechanical aperture for so long the thing with smartphone cameras was to make them better to make them more like DSLRs we don't have the physical space to move light around like a DSLR we're gonna have to do this all in software and figure it out we're gonna add a lens to get a depth effect we're gonna do all this other stuff and now we're starting to see actual physical camera features and show up in these cameras but for not the reasons that you would otherwise expect yeah yeah I mean if it was like you know I really feel like the the mechanical aperture is more of a marketing tool for this the phone looks exactly the same as last year as we pointed out before so Samsung needs something to market this phone with and mechanical aperture we have a question Thank You Cole appreciate thanks Cole Gabriel asked the chat is a larger aperture work for video yes yeah I haven't really done ton of testing with that is how much control you have but it definitely will do it in the automatic modes let's see if we can do all right well cam break it out that's a great question not here I've got the controls here so I'm gonna open it up to F 1.5 I'm gonna shoot some video now once it's in video and recording it you can see very faintly then we get this on the black there you can see it set to 1.5 but I can't actually change that in a video recording once I stopped recording I can switch to F 2.4 and record a new clip at F 2.4 but I can't switch on the fly okay victor says his face unlock Plus iris scanner combo work well I think the real question is does it work as well face it you know it's slow and annoying and the other thing that it does is we don't have it set up right now is that it shines a red light so you know on the on the iPhone it doesn't infrared thing and our cameras can pick that up if we put new eyes iPhone here you can see but you can see it flashing on the camera on the Samsung phones it actually flashes and you can see it so you set that up we have all from our friend Sam Scheffer Sammy are you in the line I am here hello I'm doing well watching the show live I just I'm curious do you think this new aperture and smartphone thing is a trend or is this sort of like every time every smartphone now has two cameras is Apple's new iPhone going to have a you know variable aperture camera and then a kind of a follow-up is do you think we'll ever see interchangeable lenses on smartphone I don't think it's gonna be a trend simply because the benefits are not manifest like like the it is it feels really like a purely marketing thing with the two dual cameras that we're seeing a lot of phones I disagree with you the camera but why would you ever switch it to F 2.4 just keep it at 5 because having a wide open aperture you do lose some detail you lose some sharpness right like they keep it closed more often than not and I think that is to increase the depth of field but as we saw in the examples the difference in the depth of field is minimal at best yeah and also the difference in my experience the difference in sharpness is imperceptible what about the most important question that Sam asked so here's my worry with this thing for real it's my 6s died not for any particular reason except I dropped it and the mechanical the focus well it wasn't like to die for software or like the battery died in slow down it was literally the moving part in a camera that focused it started grinding and just a phone that was at the end of the phone yeah having moving parts and phone scares me and I think we've seen this endless trend to get rid of every moving part I would instead of interchangeable lenses on cameras I'd rather have a battery door and a replaceable battery you're not gonna get the no so I think like moment is I know that's you use a bunch of interchangeable lenses in your existing phone right alright Sam yeah yeah yeah I think that those companies don't have a field day because it's specialized yeah I think the real race is getting more light into these sense so Samsung has done one thing I think there's a reason that they had to build a mechanical aperture ring to close it down because I think you want it closed more often than not even though it dances you can't see it different but I think the real race is what Google is doing with automatic HDR I think apples gonna do its own tricks but they're all doing multi frame processing now where they capture a bunch of frames stack them together to reduce noise increase detail things like that Google pioneered that Apple does it Samsung doesn't know they say they're doing into a greater central us nine it like you said that the real enhancements are gonna be on this office because cuz there's a physical limit to how much you can how far you can go with the so call it now just the the 2018 iPhone copy Samsung with this aperture thing I would say no I said I sincerely dad I think Apple Apple will find a way to mock this they will find a way to say we don't need to add moving parts to the phone we can do this with our software that's I mean that's just the way they'll just go in with like a 1/4 lens instead and just say hi Samsung maybe I mean like again like we are saying from at the beginning when we're looking in comparison photos these photos still look like Samsung photos I think Apple is very happy with the way it's photos look and they've been happy since the iPhone 6 right I mean they've been putting iPhone photos on billboards and being like look at how great these photos are for just five years so anyone I think is gonna be tough I think Apple's bigger challenge is the pixel because I think the pixel takes better photos more often I think iPhone can generate beautiful photos but more consistently that adding the pixel to those better job thanks Sam Sam our guy the kakatiya see anybody last question you gotta go max is asking how's the battery life in the si that's fine plus so the for just to lay down the specs they are the exactly the same as last year so it's a 3000 milliamp hour battery in the small one thirty five hundred million power battery in the big one and you can expect the exact same battery life in my experience is that is the 845 supposed to be more efficient a 45 is supposed to be more efficient but it's not a dramatic leap like from other processor generations it's still the same manufacturing process so you're not getting efficiencies there samsung says there's some software efficiencies and stuff the real real-world experience has been that the s9 will last a day for light users yes nine plus will last a day for heavier users but if you're real heavy user you can even kill the yes nine plus battery neither neither of them have bad battery life neither of them have exceptional battery life it is the typical what they market it lasts a day and no more all right we got to wrap up we're way over time here this was a trial run of calls so thank you for everyone who called in next week the entire middle segment of the show is just you calling us for emotional support about your gadgets emotional text promotional tech support which Paul and 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