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hello and welcome to the verge live from google i/o 2013 i'm josh Topolsky and I'm Chris yeah Chris you gonna throw I don't know I didn't know either it's happened we're we're live here actually at the verge Tuvok studios and we've got a lot of news to discuss a big day of google news too much literally hours out of theirs or ours like like three and a half straight hours of non-stop google news some would say too much news no one would disagree with them others would not disagree but we've a lot to talk about a lot of news to get to we have people a bunch of people on the ground at i/o right now will be speaking to them later in the show but Chris and I are going to run down what happened to the biggest announcements talk about talk through some of these announcements discuss whether or not we think they were totally bunk or super awesome and by the way that's the only space that they can exist in very binary bunker awesome very bad so what's what happened it was it was I thinking maybe you'll disagree with me but I don't think so tables going to follow it quickly is actually on it the literally the most important announcement of this event was the galaxy s4 Google edition yeah well I don't know what the most important kind of the most important so it was somewhat important so this is a galaxy s4 that is bootloader unlocked yeah running stock Android no carrier control runs on AT&T mobile with LTE 649 16 gig with my crusties not cheap not cheap blotchy product not cheap but I think about think about the alternatives right the HTC one developer edition is the same price yeah iphone 5 the same price I just wish it was the HTC one right that's my that's my number one but i will say i'm buying one of these there's no question yeah like I'm all set yeah its LTE unlocked 18t 1080p screen good camera this is the dream I think this is the phone that we've all wanted we've been asking right this is the dream up until this point literally every time Google's announced a phone itself a Nexus device there's been some ridiculous horrible soul-crushing compromise and this is the first time that the uncompromising Scott kind of like that hardware well yeah but yes but it I mean it's like a half step of the battle was the battery on the 2600 milliamp hour oh really yeah that's encouraging well no it's not because it's got it not agree because that is a 1080p display yeah but but but but comparatively to the 2300 in the one yeah your battery and it's in that it's a super amoled that's true that's true it's like a new way that's due to hell um yeah so what else is in uh that's not the old Abbey that's a big deal what we should get into that more but I shall run down the news items one of the other big stories from today so we have the google play music all access it's just the rumored we broke this story yeah we actually broke it last night greg sandoval had a had a big piece that went up hours before anybody else had the story literally hours I'm just psyched I mean he had a really great story yeah and he basically said that this was scripture subscription service was coming today that all three of the major labels had signed on and as we discovered today at the announcement that's true i've actually just signed up for the trial because you get it at a discount it's 7i 0 second because i'm a google employee um no I get it is it an i/o thing no it's until if you saw I was just for people who sign up the first until june thirtieth if you sign up then you get it for 799 sent the normal 999 which is well so now i know i'm not paying for our do spotify google all access at Netflix Hulu you are you are a hog of the music industry I mean I've know but like across the spirited services up spending it easily another seventy dollars a month and talk about gable bill which i think is what they want that's the goal well the question is would you spend more than seventy dollars a month on new albums no no you want no way seven dollars a month on albums so you're you're a cog I'm using it is it taking me for everything that I happen I getting my computer I don't want to miss any important news so after that we had out we're not going necessarily in chronological order the keynote but that's about that's big that's big for the s4's big that all accesses is pretty huge Google+ Hangouts their kind of redefining so we did and we have if you guys go on the side right now we have an exclusive look I know that word exclusive I know can be overused we actually try to avoid that word unless absolutely necessary worthwhile but we do have yet we do have an exclusive in-depth look we went out to Google I didn't but people did went out to google and got kind of the backstory on hangouts why it exists some design stuff you know all their new emoji several hundred several hundred new emoji is it 800 I think something like that seven or eight hundred yeah and and so we did and so that there was that which is a big deal which is kind of integrated messaging except for the fact that it doesn't integrate SMS and it doesn't integrate google voice right so to me those are like two massive failures on their part yeah you know like if you're going to integrate your messaging integrate all of your message because SMS is the least common denominator right that's the one thing that can reach everybody and yeah they're not doing yeah I mean why not say like hey you know you're using a samsung here's a river a replacement you know for your SMS app or whatever right you know not happening um so so there's that there's they spent a long time talking about the photo features plus in in the Google+ redesign did a bunch of Google+ stuff they did a redesign which several people have tweeted me and I haven't had a chance to play with it but several people tweeted me they think it looks like the verge which I take it as a compliment to me it looks like a more complicated version of Google now it's the same style we have the car yeah yeah yeah where I thought it's very cool so they have this thing with hashtags right where you can use if you use a hashtag you can flip the card over and look at other content that's in that hashtag I think it's a really cool idea I got to say I think it's a really cool idea yeah but but so google plus they're like trying it's like okay look seriously like we're trying to do google plus we really are serious about it we're not abandoning it right here's a new business not a spring-cleaning two things but do you think this is gonna be this this is encourage you to use it more well I think they're getting to the point in fact another thing that we'll talk about later on is this this educational push yeah and they're going to get to the point where but you know when you're born you're going to have a google account yeah and you're just going to get this orb de ser is written about in in a revelation book of Revelation you know the devil will he'll sign you up for google plus now who's the devil in this case it is we're gonna meet Larry Page where I write it I was ready to go there um no so they have but they have a interesting about Google+ is that i use it for basically for photo back up like I I'm when I take pictures on my phone they go they upload immediately to Google+ yeah and privately which is be Picasso yeah which is I guess have they phased out picasa sounds like they haven't actually phased applica if you go to picasaweb google com it redirects to google+ right right so so i actually find that hugely convenient i think the place is where they're gonna make google+ useful is in the places where they like trick you into using it but yeah that's exactly right I don't know why I level keeps going up and down in my ear but please do not deaf enough whoever's controlling in the control room you still have one year left it's all good one year when he gets all I have left that's all you dare you that's all yeah alright what else the big maps overhaul big maps which has a lot of Earth integration there in a really cool Big Macs you want fries with that sorry honey Big Mac um you lost me you know what it's been a long day i'm very tired no no one of my shittiest jokes of all time not gonna lie to you i feel really bad for the people in my keno by the way I mean can you imagine people physically that yeah i mean our team is our team is in a lot of physical cigarettes physical distress right now yeah they haven't gone to the bathroom an hour no they have not eaten they have soil themselves so hotels they are there they're looking around it's like it's kind of like that um Catrina the Superdome oh yes sorry at this point the google i/o session that took place again is super there's who they're kind of like banding together yeah they're be helping the guys like roving packs of wild dogs that gags happen uh that was very long yes I was extremely long so we had yeah maps and then finally and this was at this actually goes back to the very beginning of the keynote where Hugo Barra talked about this sort of get cohesive gaming experience which is something that Android has been lacking forever yeah and I'm sorry sean hollister about this little earlier and i think that he is not buying into my conspiracy theory but I do find it very interesting that literally it was yesterday right the project shield got a release date and a price yeah and today we get this story about this cohesive gaming experience I mean I'm just saying you really think that's a that you think that's linked I think I I think that in VA well it's it's not necessarily linked from google to nvidia but i think that nvidia may have been informed you know clearly they have some level per view into the Android roadmap they need to they ready yet right so maybe they said okay this is the iron's hot now is when we're gonna strike do you think do you think that Google has any designs on getting into living room gaming through this RIA certainly does well Leah does but they're not that's not part of the same ecosystem right well so Google TV show who's ODB was was conspicuously absent from this keynote yeah and if they're gonna do it and you know what I didn't see uh no updates on the queue yeah the Nexus Q that's right is that what's happening with that and that would be a perfect product for all access right yes the great pride for all access but that didn't happen so big maps overhaul gaming i'm looking through a list here is that everything that cannot be everything no developer stuff yeah there's like it was solid hour which is not we're not gonna spend time talking about it because if you're a developer you're in a session right now like you don't need to hear us talk so i'd like to share a little anecdote about this keynote but you know i was listening to the entire thing and normally when we're live blogging an event like this in when you're in our shoes you're sort of keyed into when people start screaming shouting and getting really excited you're like oh something really important just happened i need to find out what it was you know you can't trust those instincts at an event like this because the thing is that people were screaming shouting at were like a a picture of code right the country mean you get the stream running you hear that yeah the the fanfare yeah you're like oh cuz I was doing the same thing I'm like what's going on you know we're typing we're in our chat room and stuff and then you and it's like oh they you know it's a new it's some yes ago the comedy a player standard right which is cool by the way actually they showed off what is the name of the of the new image format what was it called Oh wet p is a web page yeah web p which they basically are like replaces jpegs PNG's and gifts and has animated gif functionality what do you call them though what are these no I know their web peas but like a gift is a gift you say like oh look at this gif you mean a jet they look at this orgy is it look at this P look at this babe Charla's ph that's a lot of pretty low brow that jokes for coming full circle because i feel like we use that a lot when sony announced the vaio p and now we have another opportunity another cycle for the GOP Joe yeah I don't know I just think it's like there's not an inconvenient you know there's not a convenient word or phrasing for that animated I don't know it's gonna be tough to take on gifts I think it would help if they are smaller if they're smaller in size that's a big deal other than the new they also showed out the new video sorry I really am psycho tech the new video codec thank you which is which is which is what is it called uh this one I don't have God were terribly at four but but i will say i want to remind you it was a three-and-a-half-hour rehab yeah this rate a half hour Abby that's sofa never yeah baby I mean it feels like something that happened at in different not just a different day but a different era of humanity right like the bin medieval it was like an evil time like in the in the meta crawler days is when this happened yeah and yeah they introduced this new video platform right first and by the way early can get to be clear though these codecs aren't new and they were every once in a while we see Google really pushed these new generation codex because they're obviously great in many ways they're more efficient they can you can do more with them but none of the Codex they showed today are actually knew they've been around for a while I think that web he was introduced last year right if not oh that's right but they did show it off yeah somebody's just I'm just reading Twitter and sometimes like if give me more booze or take it away honestly if somebody want to bring me a drink I wouldn't stop you at this point but so let's talk about some of it let's get specific on some of these and by the way at some point in the near future we're going to have David Pierce I believe joining us from New I I think first O'Neill I first yep Neela is going to join us live from IO where they're on the ground with our video team mad mad scrambling to get finally use the bathroom and eat food and by the way literally half of the company is on the ground in san francisco right now which is the only reason that I'm sitting next to you I should clarify you're wondering why I'm at this desk it's because the first 18 choices were in 10 Francisco were several options that we entertained several several great people yeah and we ended up with you but no I'm glad because you are probably more mentally with it than I am i should say i actually have having extremely i'm having any acute back pain right now and I've been taking tons of ibuprofen all day just lean back just a mean I'll certainly give me one of the eating bags after the problem so I am a little distracted by the every time I shift my weight I have like an incredible Syrian back pain but don't let that don't let that worry you as we're going through the topics of today's google news and announcements so let's start with the let's actually deep dive on a couple these names let's start with the galaxy s4 yeah so you know we are all very bullish on the one as a phone uh it seems and there's been a lot of talk about Google sort of losing its its voice its Android voice in in in no pun intended with Larry's voice loss but this kind of lost its voice in terms of like what Samsung talks about right you know there really doesn't feel like there's a google presence when you see a samsung announcement and and a lot of these announcements where it's an android power device you don't hear Android very much right so it seems like in some way uh you know they're saying look we're buddies with these guys we're having audio problems we're being told to stand by we're having audio problems with us or audio problems with Neil I Oh with me that's what I thought I'm sorry what is that these guys can unfortunately hear us fine but but I thought it was interesting there kind of saying I felt like they're kind of saying like look samsung isn't we're not at odds with Samsung we're buddies with Samsung we you know look we're doing a phone together but I also think it's really strange why not say we're going to do the galaxy s4 we're going to do the one and we're going to do you know pick another flagship phone like a motorola flagship or something let me just materal even have a flagship at this moment they will assume they will present a will assume but but I got there's a little strange they didn't go broader yeah maybe it's just too much effort for them the nice thing is though I am a somewhat excited about the ass I mean this completely changes like my the s4 is like not even a consideration because i hate TouchWiz oh my yeah and it definitely is now uh this to me seems like the phone that I want well literally is it take almost no compromise yeah the only thing that you have to overlook is our target area but everything else is kind of like really only are they only doing them in white that I don't I really don't want a white phone like that's the other thing oh you're over white white is played everybody knows that cuz it at one time white was when white was cool but now White's been everybody does white and it's boring right you know it's cool green I was gonna say fuchsia like a fuchsia gs4 would play very well I'd love a green gs4 like a Beverly aurora green emerald green yeah sort of a bright green sure royal green yeah it's not a color but um so so I'm just been told via ghost that Neil I is ready nilay patel to join us live can we get Neil I up on the on the on the news for joining you as a giant rock walk spot yes the alive first off can you hear me hello can you hear me I can hear you good how I want to tell you something I don't want to talk about news I don't want to talk about product announcements I don't want to talk about Google now or surge formats all I want to talk about is the last experience I just had in a room with 6,000 people or Larry Page was just quietly talking about the future and like the place he wants to go to where there are no laws and he can just experiment on running the world he does that was insane I think it changed me emotion did say he made a comment I actually tweeted which was something like you know there are places like burning man where you can experiment you can try anything people got me got to be a sound like like you we yeah you would believe what we get away with it birdie it's hot no it sounded like the island that the island of dr. Moreau yeah he wants like build human-animal hybrids and just see if people are okay with that yeah okay now you don't have to go this right place and just a certain your own regulated country right sir this space we're just going to try it out certain people will want to go there and if you don't want to go there it's no big deal but but don't forgot sake ask about what's going on there because it's bad it's nice date was what was the mood in the room just set the stage share a little bit on what we're talking about like because I was trying to convey it in the live vlog and I it maybe came through if you're watching the stream but the experience of being in the bus Moscone Center when Larry Page walked out there's a huge everyone sort of cheering and whooping those big surprise nobody knew was coming he doesn't make a lot of public appearances he just did a story yesterday you released some information that you know he's vocal cords are paralyzed and nobody was expecting him like people started rushing up to the front to take pictures and then he started talking you know just about google it was like really unstructured it was obviously ad lib dan drift he was like I just you know I hate the negativity I want everybody be positive let's build awesome things and I'm gonna do QA and for this entire time the room was totally totally silent but i I've never been in a press conference keynote situation where it was so silent and everyone was just accepting what was being said without any like reaction whatsoever yeah so when he got to the line maybe we need a place where we can just experiment and see how things go there was no reaction have I was like huh maybe that's a good idea what what to me that was the most insane thing it's what I've ever been around what is your impression of I mean what do you think he actually meant by that is he talking about seasteading or I mean what was he talking about no I mean David looked at me he's like I think Larry Page wants us all to go to Burning Man with him I mean it was it was very much like you know he was talking about Google Health and he was like you know the problems there were regulatory for us we wanted to do something with healthcare and we couldn't because there's all these regulations in place and we didn't have enough leverage with technology to get those things change anyone into this riff about why do we keep our medical information private it's probably because insurance companies want us to keep it private yeah I don't think that's true i mean like i don't think people are yearning to share their medical situation with everyone else insurance companies have created some false norm of keeping that a secret I think people just don't want to talk about their medical problems it yeah just there's a disconnect between everything he was saying about the world and how it works and how you would like it to work together is great stuff I think the stuff he was saying about it not being a zero-sum game about wanting more interoperability I think the stuff you're saying they're really nuts-and-bolts technology stuff you know how he's sad that the development of the web has slowed because we're not focused on much an interoperability in platforms all of that was really interesting it was just one layer deeper where I was like are we listening to a crazy person or a genius right and I honestly could not tell for most of there is always this thing where the Google guys say something really that feels really invasive and scary like you didn't have like you know talking about medical records like it's just you just don't this just doesn't seem like the right forum where you want to hear Larry talk about how you know you think it's weird that are usually a Schmidt game right now yeah but but but these guys just have a tendency right you to say things that make people uncomfortable which I get to some extent adjust do you think they would learn after if you go rounds they be right you know I'm gonna we might do some things in medical records but I'm not gonna like go up on stage and offhandedly talk about how we'd like to do things to your medical records just like a weird play to me so so Neil I flip switch gears from from Larry for a second what in the room what was the biggest announcement today what was the thing that you felt was most exciting or interesting either from your perspective or from the rooms perspective I'm curious to know like what was the thing that got the biggest sort of like booze and odds so here's there were two parts right there the first part was all really developer heavy and there are a lot of big cheers for developer stuff from the huge developer community that was in the room right so the cloud saving stuff syncing notifications got this like massive cheer you know it's like really simple stuff that's going to improve the experience of using this stuff then when they got to the consumer announcements they showed off hangouts like working across devices they showed off the auto filters on photos that got a big shear you know what I thought the two so that mean that settings really obviously the big features we obviously we have big stories about some of that stuff on the site right now to me the two things that I thought were really interesting and we're very subtle but very direct jabs at Apple I thought they spent a lot of time talking about maps and how dominant they are in maps and other you're using all the data they've collected and created to create even more data and make the maps better and build a new user interface and like a million sites or using google maps I thought that was a really direct shot at Apple and what Apple is doing the maps space and then that transition right into search right and the search stuff was they are basically building Syrian a cloud that works for all of your devices and all the stuff they showed with hot wording with contextual search with voice recognition all that stuff is I mean in comparison i think Siri looks very very dated and kind of useless and then Google stuff where you just have a Google tab open and you're just talking to the computer I think that stuff is incredibly powerful but I think that will be the legacy of this i/o as opposed to just API changes for Android but doesn't that isn't that I mean call me crazy but the idea of people constantly talking to their browser for search it does seem a little bit not natural right am I crazy unnatural rather mean does it did it strike you as yeah that would be exact but I've of that behavior will well either that behavior will like take on or alone right now that's how you enter the keywords i think is you know it's up for debate i think a lot of people might like talking I like talking to my phone I think that's useful 1 i'm in a car and stop right what i think is more interesting is that they're they're starting to rope in your personal data so you can say what time is a restaurant reservation and google as a service will know across devices as opposed to Syria right now which is very much on your device very local and very not backed by like a big cloud service but I think Google's really flexing its muscle in okay we put a computer in your hand we put it on your pocket you've got tablets now we're going to start interconnecting that with our cloud and like much more significant ways i think the photo stuff is not a really good example like in my life it doesn't occur to me to take 600 photos on vacation and send them all the google and let some computer select the best shots do whatever processing it wants and then present me an album of finished photos but i think a lot of people are really interested in stuff like that and i can't think of another company that can do it at the scale that google's doing it and i think that's where they're they're pushing their platforms forward right so Sony let me ask you a few things conspicuously missing today right no Android 4.3 or 5.0 or whatever it's going to be called no new hardware and no real glass talk to speak of what surprised you the most I think a lack of I mean Android 4.3 we've been it with the sixth I oh right night and now it's the new version of Android then nobody can get it for another year so that to me is great so they didn't they didn't announce it I think that's a wash I think they've got to get everybody on 4.2 anyway I think that the one big Android hardware announcement that was really interesting to me is the gs4 was stopped Android yeah I don't know where that came from i saw the leaks a couple days ago and i thought they were fake like legitimately thought they were fake i'm very curious as to what that device means for the nexus program what it means for Android other Android hardware vendors there's a truck going by excuse me whether or not anybody is even going to buy it like I'm imagine I'm definitely gonna buy that gs4 stock Android I imagine you guys are too oh yeah the question is like is it going to make an impact in the world do and then the glass stuff it really just got started I don't think there's much for them to say about it you know we shipped a thousand units of glass most the nerds are shipped into our in this room looking uncomfortably at each other I saw there's a really funny moment right before it started who did Joanna run into it who's also wearing glass who's somebody join around in his dresser is wearing her white glass headset she ran into somebody else think was mat Honan from wired and he looked at each other and both of them said something should happen now and like you know nothing happened they were both so wearing like the basic glass so I don't know that there's much for google to say the glass should become aware of the presence of another glass and react is that what they were such as yeah it's it yeah i mean like they were literally like this feels weird something should be happening with this technology will ring on a face that's looking out at the world and seeing somebody else wearing the same you know we're unique we're unique people because we have this thing and I think that's where glasses in a state right now people have them nobody knows what to do with them Larry Page even said you know we're just want to make happy customers and you can figure it out which i think is a pretty bizarre thing for a company to try to do especially the product like glass but if anyone's going to do it it's going to be google so i would say for me the most surprising emissions here were any explanations of what's going on with that gs4 and then the lack of a new Nexus with a higher-resolution display I thought was almost kind of a wop and just didn't show up yeah that is a that is an unusual a mission that's a good point I didn't even think about that while the keynote was going on and after three and a half hours I just kind of wanted it to be over i didn't want any more announcements and i'm sure that you felt the same way i hope you've had an opportunity but no I'm painful for you right Chris yes she was typing for three and a half hours yes guy you know it's something I just I just looks like a meal I you tweeted her sorry you tweeted our story on Larry Page talking about the setting apart the part of the world for reg you know without regulation for irritation and somebody posted an image of rapture from bioshock which is exactly what he's describing it's literally much like they wouldn't let us do what we wanted to do on the surface so we built an underground you know an underwater city where we could experiment and create what do they call everything is called in rapture in BioShock we need it we need us to tell us yeah Ross does it go into her ear what is the name of the powers that you can get anybody ross miller i know you're there any other point is that's kind of what he's doc yeah and it does have completely nuts right plasmids they're called plasmids yeah how do you make that work yeah how do you how do you create a country and like half people live there and be like let's try out this system of regulations for medical care oh it's three months later it didn't work let's try another set of regulations for medical care like how in what way do you like to make that all work at once I I mean it's just I I think it says if the CEO of a company sets the culture at the top I think what we learned about google today is they literally don't think the ideas and notions are the rest of the world like really apply to them and they're trying to create some other alternate world where they've made everything better and i think it's great i think there should be more companies like you're ready together it's also Google anyways terra feels like listen what we want to do is it is it you know Darren yes is it experimental yes is it illegal definitely does it violate the laws of humanity and all and good and right in the world without question should we do it yeah absolutely we just need a place to do it yeah it's right right it's like okay well there's a family there a Verity of that odd care take notion to all their announcements right all their announcements are about other people putting data into Google so they can make some sense of it for you right so you are going to upload all 700 of your vacation photos and allow like the the photo enhancement service you can turn it on or off but you're not allowed to make any tweaks to what it actually does either you trust Google or you don't the restaurant reviews like it's a great idea that you know the maps you I will change based on what your friends like but all of your friends has to be using google plus and they have to be feeding it information about restaurants they like and I think there's this notion inside of Google that if they could just get more of your stuff they could get more information they would run the world as perfectly as possible and it there will be no problems and no crime and everyone be happy and I you know I think that's it's lovable it's like adorable but it's also like scary if they're it's a weird vision of the world where you want to put all the information you can get into your server so you can do the work for other Google could just have access to all of your data they could they could find a way to reprogram your body and mind to only do good and I don't think that's too much to ask you know they're searching for the good they're searching for the good in the world and if they have to if they have to hook you up to some sort of bizarre contraption glass know if they have to hook you up to a contraption that's more bizarre than glass you know like glass for all free all of your body yeah then so be it I think we let them give it give it give him a couple of years and see what happens will we have a race of mutants a race of Google enhanced mutant yes they hadn't had another feature that was amazing right it was a in Google+ the new new stream like Auto hashtag stuff for you yeah which is crazy like I don't want everything I said to be categorized but the way they can do it right they show the demo was you put up a picture of the Eiffel Tower you don't tell Google anything that it's the Eiffel Tower and they're like image algorithm can recognize the structure and begin sorting and categorizing it for you and the way they set it and the way they talked about the other photo features like in any other context I think would be scare like our you know machine brain recognized your photos and immediately categorize this part of your life and then told showed you some other stuff that you might be interested about it we can when we can look at a photo and identify all the skin in it and then soften that skin to make it look better whoa is that a normal thing for anyone I did developers in costume I did fine I don't know I found the repeated use of the phrase skin softening to be slightly unsettling everybody think about like Larry page's eyelid you know like and they're like doing you know he's like we found a better way to do skin softening physical skin softening using a for an acid bath you know like I don't know I mean who knows what they're gonna come up with but hey you know I do think like I'm into the idea these guys are like a little bit crazy yeah i just wish that like who else would have done the self-driving cars this early I just wish you know I wish they had a way to better manage the the publicity side of their craziness like somebody there should be like all right Larry when you go up don't say you want to have a place where there are no laws and you want to get people's medical records it's like you know say one or the other but not both at the same time because it seems like kind of a bad thing yeah I was actually happy to see you know there's been this controversy about his voice there was an article in Bloomberg that we wrote about about Larry losing his voice and then getting it back and clearly he's gotten it back and it's not maybe we'll never be what it was it's better than its been on earnings calls lately oh yeah I mean on earnings calls you could barely talk you know it's interesting to see after watching you know what happened with Steve Jobs and you know one of the things about that was really interesting about jobs is that we watched him go from a healthy guy on stage you know we look at every one of these events and we watched him go from a healthy guy on stage to like is there something wrong with him to yes there's definitely something wrong with him in this whole drama of his situation did you feel like you know there was a mood of relief to see him come out and seem healthy and you know he's soft-spoken but to me I was kind of like okay he doesn't seem sick or anything and it was sort of a relief having gone through or watched the whole jobs thing play out did that there a sense that in the room at all did you did you even talk about it yeah I don't when he came out I mean it was just absolutely for you I mean like I'm saying like people were getting out of their chairs and running down the central always to take a photo of him and like be closer to him I mean I think there's a real sense that like you know there is it a Steve Jobs figure in the industry and page could be that person he runs google which was arguably you know pushing a lot of things farther than Apple ever did or could at this moment I think that was really very in the tone in the room the absolute pin drop reverent silence as he spoke I think reflected that as well but then it's you know it I can't separate that from like the content of what he was saying and I think there are very few people can who can talk about an island or we keep calling island talk about a space where the laws don't apply we can try new things and get away with it in a room full of relatively like skeptical like engineers and journalists and he pulled it off so i think his command of the room and the front of the environment was like total he looks very often very healthy i just spoke very quietly and you know the tone of his voice definitely went him an air of like like like mystical like quality yeah i think we're just gonna have to get used to his voice I'm glad he seemed totally fine somebody tweeted I forget who it was that he had kind of a michael cera vibe going on and i have to say he does kind of look like an older michael cera and now he sort of sounds like him as well he has a cameo in the new season the rest he's Michael Cera at the future um Sonia I know that that I think that we need to let you go you've got stuff to do but we're gonna speak to either dieter or David or both of them at some point we we actually wait a second to me or David we're not sure if we're gonna be speaking oh we're not Slater we're not know David we're gonna it's David's right here okay we're not sure now David's giving a thumbs down look you guys do what everybody how we're gonna lemonade alive long enough yeah we know you've got a lot of stuff to do thanks for joining us great job today by the way like you guys killed it i thought you were way ahead of the stream I was watching boat and I was like seeing news pop in the blood the live blog a lot faster than there if you earned a bathroom break your friend you can now relieve yourself in your pants or not eating up your lady's choice but what are you doing I've been doing this whole time I think Robin is from up here really i mean really Oh any honey life thanks at all and will love my general see you in your back in New York okay that was fun it was good yeah it was fun yeah it was a nice product I thought we mostly just kind of um uh made up cool ideas about what Larry page's fantasy experimentation world will be you know I think you missed it you may have been looking down at your computer at the time but there's this moment where Neal I was talking and this giant red Android slowly right behind him really yeah it was a really smooth yeah but do we have a shot of that do we have a steel frame of that yes let's see if we do any Zapruder footage of of the giant Android walking path it was a really special moment so um alright so we should go talk you through a few more I feel so burnt out from today's news I mean I just like I have to say in previous iOS last year in the year before and I think a year before that they last year's was bonkers too I divers yeah but they did two different keynotes righted a two day or they did a nandroid focus keynote and they did like a Chrome Google ecosystem sort of focused kena that was right one was for what's going on in the Android hardware you know I think the queue right was last year they kind of showed out that stuff and then the other was here's what we're doing in chrome here's we're doing surge here's what we're doing I think there was more of a developer slant to that stuff yeah I they should have kept them as two I mean three and a half hours is too much to ask of people I think and also when you look at the stack of news that you deal with in one day you know there are stories that they were talking about early on like some of these new standards of the developer stuff that it's just like well that's lost in the shuffle right you know people aren't going to see that news they're only gonna see like a couple of the biggest stories of the day I think they should split it i don't know why they didn't what was for you though i'm curious i mean was the s4 the most surprising part of the news I think so yeah a weave I think that collectively we've all just been holding our breath so long for this kind of phone a phone that is very close to being a no-compromise device and what is bonus mean that they're selling it for six hundred fifty dollars what it is not geared towards an average consumer no way the Nexus is the nice is definitely priced for write a regular consumer who might want to buy an unlocked device right this is not in the vicinity yeah the nexus 4 is a device where Google I think they made a very conscientious decision to push a certain type of message and that they were willing to subsidize that message and they did it right for better or worse whereas the gs4 the Google gs4 i think is more of a reactionary thing where they said okay well there are clearly enough people who are interested in this kind of device it's a very very low cost for us to work with Samsung to develop in samsung will work with anybody for any reason it's not a verb stepson right exactly now so it was very very low effort for them to do that and they don't have to subsidize it 650 is effectively full price right I think that dumb I think the music announcement was really interesting today yes I mean what I wonder is you know to me this is kind of the the best of both worlds you know where you've got you know our do and Spotify are both kind of islands in the sense that if you want to buy something you have to go somewhere else to buy and its pot if I does some limited purchasing don't they they don't have the full catalog I forget our nap I've never tried with maybe it's yeah but i but i think that like it's interesting that you know one of the things like for instance the new vampire weekend record is out and you know of course i want to listen to it you know when you when you when you're live in brooklyn you can't you have to listen to all the new vampire weekend records that matter its obligatory it's a bit well it's just something you sign a waiver when you get into the Burrow but you know i wanted to listen to it yesterday it was you could buy it you couldn't stream it to me it's like to have to go and find it somewhere was really annoying you know zo i can't stream at osan Spotify son our newest on Spotify i guess i'll go by tonight right this to me is like the perfect solution for that it's like okay if you want it right now you can buy it if you want to wait you can wait there's you can stream if it's available at the same time but is it is this enough for google to make a dent and i think it's like a big threat to RT on spotify at least from up from a business standpoint from just a straight up like Google is a jug or not they are very serious about building their content offerings this is a YouTube you know the these deals are spanning YouTube which means the YouTube can now has some license to stream these music videos or songs you know if I'm Spotify Rdio I feel like this is a threat but do consumers care you can see our consumers going to go onto their phone and say you know I mean you'd Spotify a household name now right nobody cares about Google Play that's exactly it i think that spotify and rdio have both been smart enough about proactively getting their brands out there that they may have gotten ahead of the curve and it no longer matters that Google is the juggernaut right I see you know in Chicago I see giant are do billboards everywhere here job yeah and Spotify everybody knows right i mean they're they're pushing hard and one of the things it's like you know google play all access doesn't roll off the tongue right that's not like oh yeah google play all access i want to get that you know right why not just brand the thing as a separate you know it could be tied to google play but why don't just call it play well they'll remove all play that would be great do a service already having no just like all access is really bad but you know i think they have i'm saying i think they have like a branding and discoverability issue with this service it's interesting reusing name brands inside companies is like the new like hot trope right like first with microsoft surface get out with google google hangout yeah yeah why not play why not you reuse it just call it google play play google google play with a little superscript to google play play play squared or like a new lot over the a how would you pronounce how does anybody now ply ply i don't think that's probably what else what are the other the other important things that we haven't talked about yet well so one thing that that i kind of thought about while this was going on this 3 a half hour nightmare yeah nightmares that was about it was early there was just two hours we're good solid they had a nice flow to it the only thing about it there was a nightmare was the duration the Q&A I thought really killing it no it was great ya seen Gary out of three and a half hours I wish Larry had come out said a few words in call of the day I don't think the QA served any purpose he had some really interesting except he got he got to talk about his fantasy I think it's where you write experiment on but it is great to see like a super-healthy Larry Page out on stage and and and they interspersed some really important announcements throughout the entire three hours uh but if you compare this to WWDC wouldn't be at in just a few weeks now same place exact same room right and it is also a developer focused event but guess what the kid that day one keynote is going to be very consumer-focused I can guarantee you that yeah it's all it's all consumer and it's not gonna be three nights out I mean they'll talk about developer stuff they they they typically downplay that right I mean I don't see why they why Google couldn't have done that we're gonna do the consumer-facing stuff on day one we're gonna develop a faith and stuff on day tune call today yeah um call it call two days yeah they're just very different philosophy yes yeah I mean I actually I actually thought that that it was fairly entertaining for the most part right uh so we have David David Pierce David Pierce David on Twitter he's going to join us now and let's get him punched up on the vidscreen David are you with us oh this is exciting I'm still sorry about my twitter handle by the way Josh David there's no there's no excuse okay then you made the mistake it's your twitter handle and you just have to have to live with it and I'm gonna have to live with it as well for up David David what was your take on today's well today's event lat uh it was it was sort of weird it was like I feel like there was an hour at least as a consumer somebody who isn't an Android developer or a chrome developer there was like an hour of really interesting stuff in there the google now stuff they showed was super interesting the Hangout stuff is really exciting though it's not quite what i was hoping it would be but then they interspersed it with all this stuff they spent a lot of time talking about like how to sell your tablet app now and how to make more money from your app and obviously the audience is this funny mix of you know regular people and press who identify more as regular people and these developers who and so it's like half the crowd is cheering for each individual thing over the course of three and a half hours I mean while I'm sitting there taking I think I took two thousand pictures like please dad and my camera's dead and my hyper Mac is dead and can we address something that I'm very concerned about right now are you and I wearing the same shirt no I think we are I hope seems very simple I've been waiting for this day look I saw that shirt I was like wait a second what's going on um are is your computer actually is your battery dead yeah Oh everything right like right at the end of the event I everything just started to kind of died and it just cascaded down and now i have just nothing so David you bring up a really good at Cornell phone and that's all I am you bring you bring up a really good point about the the focus on tablets in the first half of the keynote which I thought was really interesting because here we all anticipated this next-gen nexus 7 that didn't happen so now they're left with this renewed focus for developers on developing for tablets and like they have a special tablet section in the in the Play Store and whatnot but we don't have new hardware do you think that's a problem can the nexus 7 last another year well I will say I was convinced at that point that they were going to come out with the Nexus 7 it was such a like easy obvious ramp up they were like you know we have ways for you to make money and one of them is designed for tablets and one of the best ways about designing for tablets is that we have this new section of the app store and then it's such an obvious thing to be like and we have this new great time right that people will use em by your apps on yeah just wasn't there and it wound up sort of awkward and like I use the nexus 7 now and it's it feels old yeah feels sort it slow and it just hasn't really kept up over a year and like I'm shocked there wasn't a new I mean look apple updates and stuff every year it's unusual Mike Mike and I'm just totally wildly speculating but it feels like there's going to be a separate there they have to do a new tablet right I'm is here they have you know it just seems like there's no like strong tablet presence in for Google right now the Nexus 7 is just old you know I feel like they're do something new and you know i don't know maybe they didn't want to crowd this event which is weird because can we show sorry hang on David can we just get a shot of our live blog page somebody in the control room can you just get a shot of the live blog age at the top of the page so we pin were able to pin all of the kind of breakout interesting stories from an event while we're doing a live blog and I would just like you to see what the wall of news that is on I don't know if our guys can bring it up or not just the wall of news that is that was from today's event and we actually took some of the stories out it's all in it this is not all of the news at some point I'm sure somebody in the control room is going to get an image of the live blog up but David while that's happening what to you was the biggest what was the biggest announcement today our biggest surprise to you when you were sitting there well so first of all first of all I should tell you that this just as an indication of how it's saying this event actually was we stood up at the end of the event and Neal eyes stuff is just everywhere like he's just strewn all over the ground and he was like yeah my wrist started swelling I was typing so much so I had to take off like he had the cuff and the watch and just had to fling them off and just keep typing and like this that was what we just SAT through well me like biggest daily has attended to do to wear very chunky wrist the jewelry as we know that's a fact and when it's really done with it is oh it's a kid's it needs to be in a fight it's his own fault if his wrists were swelling due to his uh you know spiky pumped fashions oh here we go so this is that's fair this should wear loose are we learn the junk up the of the live blog page there's just like a wall of stories there's like 20 stories here maybe more from today's today's event but David you never answer my question what was the one that surprised you the most or that you were most interested in or that you didn't see coming well so my favorite moment was Larry Page telling Robert Scoble that he really didn't like that picture of him wearing glass and shower which was just like he said it like a joke but it's definitely not a joke and it was it was wonderful I think what I thought I will say this in but I think the thing when when Larry Page thinks about how he wants glass to be represented in the media i'm gonna guess i'm gonna go ahead and guess that he doesn't want the enduring image of glass to be a somewhat overweight guy nude in the shower red-faced and screaming with glass on I'm just gonna go ahead and throw that out there by the way or maybe it is thanks go on Big Scoble fan don't get me wrong but that picture is you know disgusting on everyone every job ah and I get where Larry Page is coming from yeah but to actually answer a question I think the thing that most interested me was all the google now stuff and I was watching guys talked to Neil I and you know that it is sort of awkward these weird ways you have to like she was leaning over her computer being like ok Google which is just sort of weird and awkward to like yell at your computer to make it do something um but it's also it wildly powerful and she got up there and like this might have been a line but she was talking about how she'd never done it in front of a crowd or in a space this big or whatever and it just worked every time and she was like show me my flight it's not you know there's no weird syntax there's no odd way you have to go about it and it didn't just default to doing Google searches for like a buzz word it pulled out of what she said right it was actually like answering her questions with either information or a super relevant super specific google search right and if they can actually like pull that out and refine it so it's more than just like how tall do you have to be the ride on this roller coaster it could get really cool really fast right and that's I'm excited about that so so David I know that you've got to get going you guys only have a little bit of time there I've been told by our producers that we're to move on to a very important topic which more batteries dying yeah yeah I know um so anyhow thanks for joining us and then covering it and I assume that we'll be seeing more from you guys from IO at some point today maybe not yeah I'm just gonna go keep taking pictures of random people and or less that's like my past the people in floppy a droid costume yeah well thank you David for joining us and give exact give me a lie a big kiss for us for both of us when you see him so there's actually there's actually a news topic that we want to discuss that's just come up while we've been broadcasting and that is and I want to get the story right so let me look at the front page that's our site the long story short is that Google has demanded that Microsoft pull its new windows phone you too bad yea which was a pretty hotly anticipated at because Google has never made an official YouTube after windows phone that's right and the original one was just a wrapper for YouTube's mobile site and it was frankly terrible and so what's really amazing about this is that Larry Page literally just minutes ago got done talking about how there's too much negativity in the business and when we all just get along and we have a great thing there was a lot in fact on stage today a lot of people were like I think Vic Gundotra said something about it i think sundar said something about it it was like clat forget about platforms we want to talk about people you know we don't care about you know where you get the stuff as long as it's all you know it's google and it works and it makes your life easier and blah blah blah so they've demanded that that Microsoft remove its YouTube Windows Phone app because it's not displaying ads and look I get the argument yeah but how is it that this is happening today why today the tummy just isn't great it is it's a little weird also what is this what is this and we by the way we have the this is our story we have the letter from google to microsoft and and you guys should go look at this if you're watching now it's on the front page of the sites and our hero which is what we call the top part of the site in case you're wondering and it's actually really not shocking but you know there's been clearly a kind of a cold war between Google Apple and Microsoft you know particularly Google microscope we type of this in the verge cast recently is that you know Apple and Microsoft are now sort of like partners in crime when it comes to trying to battle google google is like the shared enemy you know it's one of those the enemy of my enemy is my friend rosette it is that what it is yeah my the enemy of my enemy is my friend right so in this case Apple and Microsoft we're friends you have technically they've been enemies right historically right I know they have like a lot of partnerships but you know it's really interesting clearly apple doesn't see Microsoft as a threat anymore right in any real way and obviously Microsoft sees Google is a big threat on many fronts right whether its operating systems mobile search which Microsoft has tried to get into a Productivity stuff the productivity stuff probably being the biggest one for them so you know do you think this is a is this just is this letter this move just a scare tactic I mean obviously they want them to pull it but is this just like hey get get ads in there or do you think there's something that you think this is a is a more meaningful you can't help but feel looking back over the past six months to a year that Google is just kind of like getting a kick out of throwing banana peels in front of Microsoft as they go and and clearly there are very real business reasons for all these decisions but I just feel like if if Windows Phone really is the non threat that it seems to be to Android and to iOS this is a weird I get that this needed to happen I just don't know if why it needed to happen to see me let me read you some of the the letter actually this is from Francisco Varela of array up the director of global platform partnerships at YouTube miss dear mr. bricks this is to Todd Brix general manager Windows Phone apps in store we recently became aware of a microsoft authored YouTube application for windows phone 8 available at and has a link now it appears the application one allows you to download videos from youtube to prevents the display of advertisements in YouTube video playback sand three plays videos that are partners have restricted from playback on certain platform eg mobile devices with limited feature says this is really interesting by the way because Google YouTube has it makes a big deal out of if there's copyright violations in a video they will immediately restrict playback of that video from mobile that's the first thing they do is like you can't play it on a device you can't play it on a TV it's like they restricted from thirties like third party playback places now third party but but second screen I guess I mean to they're not web not native web these features directly harm our content creators and clearly violate our terms of service honest let's go ahead content creators make money on youtube I monetizing their contents or advertisement unfortunately by blocking advertising and allowing downloads of videos your application cuts off a valuable ongoing revenue source for creators and causes harm to the thriving content ecosystem on YouTube in addition your application overrides specific decisions made by some content creators to keep the content from displaying on certain types of devices which in many cases are due to exclusive distribution arrangements those content creators have with third parties so I think what's really notable about this is that google is there is no interplay here between Google and Microsoft in terms of this app being created and my understanding actually my understanding about this app was that there was some conversation and collaboration this feels like a weird like weirdly amateur for Microsoft I feel like you know has actively gone out of its way to participate as little as possible in Windows Phone right but I mean but Microsoft knows they're violating there's no way their legal department looked at this in writing say like well we're not we're not going to show their ads we're not gonna do XY and z so do you think this is Microsoft poking Google with minik and if it's poking them I don't see what they have to gain and they clearly are in violation of their of their terms of service and and and the polling this is obviously going to happen they can't keep it up right you know and they go to court over it I don't know where where Microsoft can stand no I i think my guess is what'll end up happening is Microsoft will resubmit this app that's compliance you know and in the meantime they've gotten a nice bump in in visibility because of this little spamming can they be here the question did they not make it compliant because they didn't care or were stupid about it or is it not compliant because there's some technical reason that but adds won't run and that so certain settings won't work on a Windows Phone device it I think it's that in combination with the calculation that if they submit a violated app they will get this conversation started and now Google is going to look a little silly if they don't help Microsoft make a comply nap well that means I think Google's I think Google's attitude to Windows Phone if they had cared at all about when its own they would make their own app right side people decide they don't want people to view right YouTube content I mean their job YouTube's job is to make sure the max amount of people see their content right that's how they make money but it's clear they didn't make Windows Phone a priority and there's been a lot of back and forth over YouTube yeah the whole Cal damn thing and yeah it's yeah over YouTube and my sorry and Google services right yeah right so anyhow this is a story that won't stop unfolding probably and I would like to read you this this direct quote from from Larry Page that the TC just fed me here this is from his Q&A session and I think it's very very appropriate considering the circumstances page said I think just this week Microsoft took advantage of that by interoperating with us but not doing the reverse which is really sad right and that's not the way to make progress you need to actually have interoperation not just people milking off one company for their own benefit so I think Google's always stood for that we certainly struggle with people like Microsoft right so that's a very very telling statement it's it's uh there were a number of there were some subtle comments today you know one thing about google that they don't do where Apple is sort of notorious for doing it is like taking straight up shots at people on stage and Google is tends to be a little bit less aggressive and frankly I don't know if they have a position to be more aggressive you know in some ways it's like look you guys for a long time we're kind of screwing up in a variety of ways certainly with mobile it took them longer to get a foothold yeah and to convince people that Android was a platform they wanted to be on and so I did think today though they were lacing these kind of subtle at Microsoft and Apple throughout the presentation which I take you know it's fine it's a little childish but it's funny to see like what is a subtle dig or a offhand comment get turned into a real situation right which is this is a real legal situation they now have between between Microsoft and Google anyhow up so we're getting close to wrapping up there's two things I want to do first off if you have any if there's any like questions that you need answer that we didn't cover I feel like we glossed over a lot of stuff because there was just a lot of stuff we have every major story and even some smaller stories from today's Google a keynote on the verge we've got a big story stream where we've collected all of the content we have two big feet we didn't really even talk about these but we have two big features what we did a little bit the beginning where we got a chance to go to do sort of an inside look at the new hangouts and in the Google+ revamp with the emphasis on photos and sort of utilizing data to be smarter about content that's displayed and you should read both of those they have amazing videos that our video team put together we send a crew out of reporters out to Google's campus to sort of like get the story on these products and you know figure out if you know one of the things we're really interested in is we just covered Facebook's messaging we did a similar sort of feature story on their their new messenger app and chat heads and this is sort of like in a way hangouts is very much response to that so it's interesting to see the juxtaposition between those two stories so I highly recommend that you read those no chat heads here though no chat heads I'm actually really disappointed that chat heads is the only app it's using that I think it's a brilliant interface yeah and I really think somebody should somebody besides Facebook should pick up on it Google maybe it is your platform maybe think about utilizing some of the functionality of it but so so before we go I'm checking my Twitter to see if oh somebody just tweeted at me there was by the way there was an HTC employ the tweeted today about a sort of seemed to be hinting at an unlocked stock HTC one well in not so many words it was like you might just want to wait yeah it was something to that effect yeah I I think that somebody just tweeted at me about it I don't think that it's a it's certainly not happening today no I don't think it's happening at i/o and if it is happening i'll take one please we all will he send it to Vaughn we all will the Vox offices in midtown Manhattan so so but the things we want to do is first off we have footage of earlier we were speaking to Neil I there was an Android that walked past him yeah and we have footage of it now and I'd like to know if it's possible for us to get the footage of the Android up on the screen for our viewers because you pointed it out to me and I was very interested in seeing it and somebody actually took the time out to cut that together and Ross I don't know if you are on top of this in the control room they're working on it actually quite it's actually quite complicated to get this up on the screen but so I want to show you guys that and then we have a supercut of the entire three and a half hour keynote that is three and a half minutes which is excited that is the the correct length of time fire an event like that yeah so so we're going to give you after we get the android app which maybe we can't do maybe we'll have to wait till after the Rost you want us to wait till after we show the supercut one more second well there's your second yeah come and gone there we go ah here it is here's the Android and by the way this Android seems to be in casual conversation with another person am I crazy but they're just like talking what an odd world we live also vandroid is clothed yeah the androids wearing it like a karate outfit or a race like a toga a jogging oh so it is or not no it's not a toga toga it looks like a jogging outfit to me yeah you be we may never know that's the Android that walked past Neil I certainly worth the wait oh actually this this HTC employee just responded on Twitter she said we already have a developer addition to selling quite well too yeah but do you have a black developer edition too by the way I by the way black HTC One now available at ATT really yeah indoors yes in store well in online I forgot I was gonna mention it to you when we were doing the news I it's probably a little news hit for us if you'll excuse me I need to go to an AT&T store okay that's pretty much our show but we want to show you we want to leave you with this it's all three and a half hours of the keynote of Google's keynote from i/o 2013 in three and a half minutes brought to you by the lovely minds at verge video so take a look at this and move back for some kind of weird sign off that makes you physically uncomfortable well a good morning in hello let's get this keynote started I think we are in the middle of one of the most pivotal moments these are two pictures in the same location when you look at the one on the right a fee of phones capturing that moment 900 million we couldn't have gotten there without the help of a lot of you in the audience and people around the world developers around the world but you have to remember there are over 7 billion people on this planet so we have a long way to go and we think the journey is just getting started we recently launched a redesigned version of the Google Play Store you know in the run through we didn't put a picture of a more handsome man behind me up on the screen but I guess that's fine we set out to build a music service that didn't just give you access to a world of music but also helped guide you through it what if we gave you access to millions of tracks from our store your personal library blended with ours that's all access we talked about 900 million androids 48 billion app installs a bunch of new tools and developer services that help you build awesome apps this is a samsung galaxy s4 running Android 4.2 jelly bean with the same software experience that we ship on our Nexus devices it's google's take on android this version of the samsung galaxy s4 it works on both AT&T and t-mobile with LTE support it is bootloader unlocked it will be on sale starting on jun 26 on google play for six hundred and forty-nine dollars we're gonna give each and every one of you a brand new pixel I've been asked to say it's not ready till 2pm so please don't leave in the middle of the keynote I'm really excited to announce a new initiative which will make it easy and affordable for schools to put android tablets in the hands of all their kids you've already been doing this with Chromebooks Chromebooks are really ideally suited for education because this literally no setup no administration you open the device you're good to go you have the power of web within you we're going to switch now and talk about what we are doing on Google today we're introducing 41 new features across three major areas of Google+ first a new newly designed stream a new hangouts application and a fundamentally new photos experience we have a point of view about software and technology namely that it should get out of the way and allow people to do what they do best let's live learn and love frankly even Google's own services have been fragmented and and confused at times so we're introducing today a new application hangouts group video at no charge isn't that fantastic now this is really hot we just took it off the press this morning and I've actually never tried hot wording in a room with so much ambient noise show me things to do in Santa Cruz you are popular attractions instead is absolutely amazing you know he's tablets phones laptops and you know even the Google glass all those things were using I'm tremendously excited about all the innovation that you're bringing it to life technology should do the hard work so that people can get out of doing the things to make them the happiest in life kind of somber note there at the end sombra hasting Larry Page can't say anything doesn't sound very serious and soft that's true like he's so softly spoken no matter what he says he could say the most outrageous nasty thing in the world but you're gonna feel like it's really heartfelt and touching but still a little evil but also somebody's a little bit at some points let me said he was did somebody make a joke about him stroking a cat yeah Cat a nude nude cat anyhow I think we need to wrap up we're like pretty much a drink o'clock yes red beer o'clock here at the verge I just would like to thank I just like to say before we go I want to thank our team who did an amazing job today for the coverage i mean the coverage they did today was crazy like the teams on the ground the video crew on the ground our reporters and writers that were actually there everybody who's here in the office and remote working overseas or in it in locations around America and around the world just there really incredible to work with and and we you know we had some issues with the site today I'm sure some of you guys saw we were getting like these 500 errors and having some comment loading issues and we were also having issues in our back-end and you know back-end issues and ironic that we have back-end issues in the day when my back is hurting coincidence uh but but everybody kind of plowed through it and did an amazing job and you know the teams that went and did these long reports I thought it really could work I like a huge thank you to our video team for putting the stuff together to our product team who's been working very hard to you know fix those issues they're working their asses off to do it and make sure the site stays up we have enormous amount of traffic today like a crazy crazy traffic day like I don't know all the phone numbers yet but I know that we're still going at like you know quadruple a normal day traffic or billion page 1 billion page views being served at the moment and then I would just like to say like thanks everybody who tuned in to this and who tuned in to the site today and watch the live blog and read our stories because you know without you where we'd be nothing we would literally be living on the street you know with selling us for this with our gs4 developer edition selling our blood for a meal I'm drinking your own blood basic trick you are no blood in lieu of an actual deal Oh anyhow so thank you guys for reading and watching and we'll be back I don't know what xbox is coming up oh yeah oh my god we have another huge live event in just a few days yeah am a 21st new xbox we will be there covering it live we will be out in full force with video we will be doing live analysis it's gonna be sexy we're just gonna come out at the end hey she'll come out again and softly quietly talk about why the xbox is what he wants to take his new Xbox to his I'll or two hours his eyelid experiment Asian of plot I don't know what it would be called it is his lair yeah he's experimentation in there so stay tuned for that yes they do that hey that's our show will be back soon and and thanks again Oh