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welcome to the verge live my name is david pierce your chris sigler i am chris 6 it's Ziggler's either Zoey pretend the e isn't there okay done and we are here this is the verge live it's mobile world congress it's the first day and what just happened is Samsung just announced kind of in typical Samsung fashion all of the things oh so before we're a little late getting started here because we wanted to get dan seifert who's actually in barcelona watching samsung unveil all of the things and we are going to have Dan tell us things right now so Dan all of the things what was your favorite thing that Samsung just announced not like the most interesting but your favorite actually the gear fit that thing is really really cool yeah yes so I mean was it clear that this was gonna be cool and exciting and interesting because that seems to be the overwhelming reaction from everybody uh I don't so you know the samsung had announced the gear 2 and the gear 2 neo a couple days ago with a press release but it just kind of drops this gear fit during this announcement and it is Scott this like curved AMOLED touchscreen display and it's seriously the first time that I've seen a device with a curved display and actually been excited about it it's like if Sampson's finally figured out a place to put this curve display text and ce4 with not urge we're here in Barcelona Spain it looks huge is a huge like I saw it on the the guy's wrist as he was standing there and like it's smaller than the gear granted but is it is it huge not really it's not it's not really much bigger than nitrogen source you know three quarters of an inch by two inches longer or whatever for the actual unit itself it's actually really like and really comfortable of a surprise what's the deal with via the screen orientation because I feel like in a backwards right yeah it's a whole lot like this to do anything we have aimed away from you right yeah it's like confusing at first when I first put it on when I when I actually use the device I think I put it on upside down and backwards and I took it off and clipped it her so so the way that I found it was most comfortable to wear it was to have the display so that if I held my arm out in front of me I could read it ah so I guess that's I don't know how to really describe that but you know I could read it if I'm just holding my arm out in front AJ the first glance or the first inclination was to do it the other way uh so I think this the band kind of like directs you to do it the other way but okay I mean it was comfortable either way it's just a matter of how you want to read it yeah fair enough so the I guess we should talk about the gs5 because that's like the thing right it's this is probably the most significant important phone that will be announced this year it's like this in the iphone or the two that's it gently matters yes I guess it's important right well I mean it's so that's the thing right is this seems to me to be really not that new or different or exciting but you've held the thing so tell me tell me what you think right so in terms of importance Samsung made a big point to like say that they sold 200 billion galaxy s phones over the years so it's like yeah it's very important it is you know the world's largest smartphone makers flagship smartphone for the year but you're right it doesn't really look that much different than the galaxy s4 especially if you're looking at it from the front when I first saw it I was like oh they're showing us another galaxy s4 uh because it uses the same exact design language a very similar size you know it's very similar but the big difference is on the back they finally gotten rid of that glossy nasty slimy plastic and they've replaced it with this soft touch dimpled finish which is exactly like the finish on the original Nexus 7 which you know actually feels pretty good it doesn't look great in photos I know a lot of people have been telling me that like you know they're seeing it in photos and it's it's not a they think it's pretty unattractive in person it's a little bit better looking uh and i think the black and the white definitely look better than the other you know it really doesn't look good in photos as the cold one because the gold one looks horrible and just like deeply upsetting as a phone is it have you seen it as it as bad as it seems yeah you know the gold one is in my favorite I'd say of the for the gold one is definitely the ugliest even looks like a indeed like I yeah I don't know it looks like a name I guess that's clean kinase shimmers more I guess so it's it's kind of like an in between gold and bronze so it's not like champagne but it's not like pure gold and it's not like a full bronze it's like that in between fair enough I mean I so from the it seemed to me just watching the stream that Samsung really doesn't want to talk about things like software or interface because they're they've you know they're famous for screwing that stuff up and they don't want to they just don't seem to want to talk about it but was that what's what's new here it seems like they've scaled some stuff back but so you know they did scale some things back they mentioned uh you know they've got a revamped settings menu that has like cleaners of flatter icons and it's a little easier to navigate and the lock screen is a little bit cleaner and not as cluttered as you see but you know really this is a samsung galaxy phone it looks like a samsung galaxy phone around the software it feels like a samsung galaxy phone in the software it doesn't feel that much different than say the galaxy s4 software and so you know there's been a lot of rumors saying that you know Google's influence samsung to change its soft and science but I don't think we're really seeing it here on the galaxy s5 okay so what's the vibe like in that room like the Samsung has this weird history of doing really horrible besides events yeah and this one was kind of simple and straightforward and what was it either people excited as straight as as as could be this man is you know they talked about the devices they talked about their strategy with them and there was no theatrics and no other stuff going on it was kind of like you know the last of last year's galaxy s4 event was kind of the peak of their absurdity with events I guess they had the Broadway actors come out and do these skits and vignettes and everything it is really the labor but you know this year they they kept it straight to the products they let the product speak for themselves I think you know it's a more effective way to present your products rather than distract with all this other stuff going on uh you know they had probably five or six thousand people in this room Wow rapt attention to this event so you know it seemed like they the people were there to see the products more for than the Samsung show okay I mean first of all you're I think you're giving Samsung way too much credit when you say that that was the peak of it last year yeah I have this odd feeling things are gonna get better and weirder and I really hope so but there's got to be like an apple event right like they just got up there like let's talk about features well talk about features with the possible exception of the 15 minutes of orchestra at the very beginning which I couldn't tell if I was intentional or not it seemed as though maybe they were delayed a bit so they just told the orchestra to keep on rolling ladies go baby maybe it was intentional i'm not sure fair enough so Dan the the gears that's the other thing that they this seems to be something Samsung is really interested in burying too is like they just I don't know I get this sense from Samsung that they're kind of trying to hide a lot of this and they figured out that pickier fit is really cool so they want to talk about that and then the rest of it they're just kind of glossing over cuz they're like oh we're gonna sell a ton of them yes the end well it was you know I think they didn't sell a ton of the first gear uh uh and and then it was like you know it received a lot of criticism we really disliked it for a number of reasons and so did a lot of other other reviewers and it seems like Samsung actually listened to a lot of the complaints that were with the original gear and applied them in the gear or two you can now change the band's which you couldn't do on the first one it's thinner it's lighter it's way more comfortable on your wrist it doesn't look as obnoxious you know that they've done some things with the interface where it's easier to navigate it's more responsive they have a home button now which makes a lot more sense than the gesture based stuff they were doing before so to hold on hold up so this is your I'm just looking at this video now and it still looks really really humongous like is it like this this is the old gear and it's the largest thing that has ever existed is the old one is the new one actually but nicer is it because it's like the pebble steel right is the one that we look to as sort of the closest thing to a nice right sized watch is this anywhere near that so it's still definitely bigger than the pebble steel it's it's it's like thinner and lighter than the first year which isn't you know hard to do I guess but it does give you a you know this bigger full color display that the pebble steel doesn't have the other thing they did is they say that they now get two to three days of battery life which is like a you know two to three times longer than they did with the first gear which was one of the biggest complaints uh you know we'll have to test that one yes you if the if they're able to fulfill these claims have this performance have this you know battery life that they say they have and things like that you know the gear just became a whole lot more attractive than it was before I mean you think you think that this is actually something people are gonna be interested in now it was like a funny joke the last time it seemed like was everybody just kind of looked at it was like well this is a thing that Samsung made right it was it was like it was like Samsung saw the wire bull market it was like we need to dive into it and we're just gonna do a thing and throw it out there I think this one shows reflects a lot of them listening to consumer feedback on to what they actually want in a guy in a SmartWatch and and you know maybe they'll be able to fulfill that we still don't know how much it's going to cost so there's two versions there's a gear 2 and the gear 2 neo and the neo is kind of stripped-down they took the camera off it doesn't quite look as high-end and it's supposed to come out at a lower price point but you know we don't really know how much it's going to cost it comes out at three hundred dollars like the first gear then it's it's probably still dead in the water yeah well at least in the u.s. I suspect what will end up happening is will see a number of carriers either bundle them with devices or do promotions where they say well if you buy a note 3 or a gs5 we'll throw in a you know a gear 2 neo for free yeah they did that briefly with the neo or excuse me the the note 3 and the original gear and I think that's why I ended up seeing so many gears on the street is because people caught on to this one weekend promotion where everyone bought a note 3 and then they had this thing on the wrist yeah they know to do with it fan alright so Dan I think we're gonna have to let you go but before we do you got to actually spend some time with this thing so we're gonna run this video that you shot yesterday or today or sometime whenever you shot it years ago with the galaxy s5 so thank you Dan and you know stay safe in Barcelona I guess you can eat some ham for us he's a ham for it oh I will jam on hi alright check out this hands-on with the galaxy s5 this is dan seifert with the verge and we are here in Barcelona Spain checking out the Samsung Galaxy s5 this is the company's latest flagship smartphone it really looks very similar to the s4 it's got a very similar design language with rounded corners metal trim along side the only major difference with the hardware here is actually on the back the back features a new soft touch finish with a dimpled pattern it really feels a lot nicer than Samsung's older glossy finishes it feels very similar to the note 3 without the leather look but otherwise it feels pretty much just like the galaxy s4 in your hand hardware wise it's a little bit different it's got a 5.1 inch display they got a capacitive button for multitasking here and a new fingerprint scanning home button on the front there on the back it's got a 16 megapixel camera an LED flash and a new heart rate sensor that uses a your fingertip to measure your heart rate you can still take the back cover off to access the battery SIM card slot it's got a microSD card slot as well 2800 milliamp hour battery the samsung says gives twenty percent better battery life than the galaxy s4 inside the galaxy s5 has a quad-core processor it's 2.5 gigahertz 2 gigabytes of ram it's really fast and responsive from our brief tests really no lag that we can particularly see the interface here is definitely very familiar to Samsung users there are some slight differences if you swipe over from the home screen you can access the my magazine feature which was available with a swipe up in the note 3 but otherwise it's a pretty standard home screen the settings menu looks a little different the tabs are gone for a more icon based approach and it is running Android 4.4 point2 but otherwise it's definitely a samsung phone it's got all samsung apps and helpers and things like that the new thing here is s health has been greatly improved in addition to the heart rate sensor on the back it's got a new exercise coach and pedometer and things like that and it has the ability to be expanded with third-party apps that can tap into an SDK that Samsung will be releasing soon the heart rate sensor uses the sensor on the back here and you just place your finger tip on it and then it will give you a reading for your heart rate in about 5 to 10 seconds you can see my heart right there Samsung is going to be releasing the galaxy s5 in a variety of different colored backs there's blue black gold and white depending on which market there get released depends on which color will be available initially in the United States we're going to see the black and white models samsung doesn't have a pricing announced for the galaxy s5 vote says that we should expect it to see on shelves in April so the galaxy s5 5.1 inch 1080p screen it has a 2.5 gigahertz processor it has the newest version of Android it has a heart rate thing a fingerprint sensor it has all of the things it seems like Samsung this time instead of doing lots of crazy software went for lots of crazy hardware rights that a good move uh well I think what they really needed to attack most of all was the I think they need to present a fresh industrial design which they failed to do because we've seen I'm sort of surprised i would i would have thought after like the HTC one Samsung's really good at going back to drawing board and saying okay somebody beat us how are we gonna do that or there's the famous story about the ipad right right oh yeah i thought they went back to the drawing board after they saw the ipad 2 was like one millimeter thinner than their tablet yeah cancel it and re-released it like two months later so you know we saw basically the same ID on the gs3 mgs4 now here we are with the gs5 which frankly and once you knew what you were looking for looking at the front so i'm not sure you'd be able to tell the difference it really does look like exactly the same and then like and said the software is basically the same yeah so i think this is going to be a really a particularly tough sell for existing like gs3 and GS for owners i will say the fingerprint sensor is kind of cool like invite vgs for I i I'm with you I'm not up right here but it but the fingerprint sensor and especially because they're doing all the things that it seems like Apple sort of wanted to do but hasn't really pulled off which is right mobile pee everywhere yeah and you know lock folders and all the stuff where it's like that makes a lot of sense like there's the at mode which is for porn right but it's also it you know it makes sense that's actually a really great thing to have on a phone especially for people who it makes I would think it would make more sense on a tablet for people who like share it with friends and stuff right most people don't use my phone although you can see how that would also tie into like knocks which samsung is pushing really hard for business customers right right so um yeah I mean that's that is just one of the bog standard features this time of year from now virtually every smartphone that you see on the market and the end of the market that the that the galaxy s5 plays in is going to have a fingerprint sensor it's just it's where things are going ya know it's a it's really true I mean I guess the the one big thing that everybody said last year was that the gs4 felt terrible and I guess they didn't go like above and beyond and solving that but it sounds like they may have solved that and so if nothing else I mean I'm gonna be less angry at it which a lot crucial hell as as a member of the public who actually didn't mind the plastic on the gs4 um I get that a lot uh let me just say that I'm not stoked at the gs5 I don't want like a pleather back on my phone fair enough um I don't I don't see why not professional so if they had just carried over if they're going to preserve basically all the ID I would have actually preferred they've carried over the quote unquote slimy back to but but they didn't so then either way I think we can both agree the gold version is not it doesn't look like a winner right I'm right yeah I mean you're not you're not wrong you're not wrong I mean the the idea of a soft touch gold back does not appeal to me you don't mind this article to anything it's just not not quite what I'm going for yeah yeah who was it it was so Carl Lewis or Michael Jones someone some really famous Olympian his last race war gold Nikes yeah and it were also yes and that's what the back of this phone reminds me of that's not a good way not a good way okay all right fair enough well so in other news in weirder news I guess and probably less relevant to most people I guess nokia did some stuff today no you did like so deeply I guess everything Samsung did as unsurprising as it was nokia was incredibly surprising nokia trolled the crap out of its new owner uh yeah very strange right yeah i mean we kind of saw this coming for the past couple weeks but still right weird yeah so and I think we have tom warren on the line who has been covering all of this for us for a decades at this point i think tom hello hey MA yes so so what was the what was the reaction like in in the room when they started talking about all this stuff today well I guess they started off with the Asha stuff first of all so it's kind of like going through the motions and stuff and and then they obviously they didn't like he was weird that like you look olympus onstage but he didn't actually say oh this is the knock your ex he was like we've got this family or phones and you would caught the Lumia and they just like showed it up on screen and then they started like like going through them through the the features of stuff so it was it was kind of like people were trying to figure out what they were actually doing was the Android and stuff so it took me a while to say Android but yeah okay so so run us through real quick what what it is they announced so it's it's three phones right essentially yeah there's the Asha phones which are you know cheap phones for the developing world and then there are these three new nokia X phones to take us through those a little bit yeah so there's the X the X plus and the XL and so the ex is basically a 4-inch phone wvga resolution it's essentially it's the same sort of hardware as the Lumia 520 s it's got low storage no it's got the same amount of RAM stuff but it's in a different camera but essentially it's pretty much the same sort of thing inside and and then the X plus like puts the memory up and the storage up slightly then EXO is like basically the 5 inch version and is DX and they basically they're all Android devices but their android devices in the sense that nokia has created their own forked version and they will run android apps but they will come from a nokia store it might be from google play and the message that they were kind of of saying for other day even when they mention android on stage every time they mention android it came like seconds later was like Microsoft services like lychee every time who's like it feels like someone apologizing to their dad it was like dad sound patterns I'm sorry but so Tom Tom the official the official story correct me if I'm wrong is that the X line slots vaguely nebulous Lee in between ash and Lumia is that right yeah yeah and and yet and yet the X starts to yawn euro tops out at 109 which is crazy trip it is crazy so many tried what is the Lumia 520 unsubsidized Tom do you know I fan I don't know what it goes for in Euros now but I think when it when it first day we did was actually like 100 110 120 like around that marks it definitely is definitely released back back then like a higher price point but like it's the same spec so I write interested to know like if they built the Lumia 520 today how much they would cost right they are really useful in unless they're really splitting hairs now with the price point i mean i think the official message is that the ex is designed to kind of like carve this little niche between the the very low end and the Lumia lines with the verge I don't know yeah I mean I think I think the way that they they kind of explain it today is that that like they said this on several occasions it was like we want people to get on Microsoft services and stuff and I think it's kind of like designed to be a feed of the Vice enter into the Lumia but I think at the moment it feels like a weird stopgap and I think personally that it's it's almost a reaction to the fact that Windows Phone hasn't pushed down as far to the low end and business flexible as perhaps nokia wanted it to be and because they bet they definitely worked with Microsoft and they kind of schooled Microsoft unlike you know we're making these phones into like mass volume and we need to do these tweaks to your OS and I think I think there's a little bit of frustration that that didn't happen sooner because they needed devices to replace the ones that yeah like the Symbian devices that they were they were phasing out and then they just weren't getting like the sort of volume that they were used to say so I think it just feels like a weird stuff that so do you see this is gonna collide do you see this is something like a like a warning shot from Nokia being like hey this is something we could do because the timing is all wrong right because they're about to get bought by microsoft and presumably then Microsoft we will 80 days yeah you're going to you and presumably you know Satya Nadella will be able to exercise his authority and say nope you don't make android phones anymore so I don't totally see the point of doing this like why is no key doing it and why now yeah I mean I guess I think I think looking at it it looks like it's just going to be like an astro replacement which in that sense it makes sense but at the moment because the specs are so aligned with like the sort of devices that you could do move windows phone it's kind of in that weird gap and that old area like it makes sense if they can push the X down to two lower devices but like when we when we paid with it today like opening out is real slow and like navigating around is not that great so if they've got some performance issues there already and it seems that they've been working on it for like at least a couple of years so and Nokia's credit they did also show today a 45 euro touch screen only Asha device so they do have some wiggle room there between the bottom of the acts line and the top of the astral line right yeah but i think i think this knock your ex and and this sort of strategy is perhaps the reason the microsoft brought nokia because if your if your microsoft and your main partner that's shipping ninety percent of your windows phones is experimenting on the low end with android and that's gonna that's going to freak you out a little bit right because yes this is a test of the low end but if they hadn't had done it in the way that they're doing it with like tying it to these marks or services which is clearly like obviously they can't work together right now but it seems like there's something weird going on there like the whole whole mention of android and it Mike's or services like it seems like they're just trying to keep that cool there at the moment but i think if they'd introduce this without microsoft buying them i think it would have been slightly different I don't know that they would have put the major focus on Microsoft services put it up and then if they're expendable experiment in the low end which is all that Windows Phone is growing in at the moment then you know that's just asking to an alarm microsoft and and in it could have led to eventually an experiment in the high n dry right so yeah I think it's I think Mike's has pretty got winner this some time ago and I think it's probably one of the main reasons that that they they decided they had to go out and knock nokia because i don't think they really wanted to be a phone OEM i think that's how they started off they were they wanted to to be like android way across several partners and stuff and they're struggling to get the partners although they did announce the new ones of the weekend but i don't i just feel like this was kind of one of the things that push them over the edge so because they needed to secure windows phone well so Tom what's your honest take of these devices you've used them do they suck as bad as I suspected you or are they amazing are they somewhere between tell me tell me what you think and yeah I mean they're amazing like you say they're amazingly bad but they know they're not like that bad but then they're not like they're not the device that you're going to go out and load whether stock version of Android you want on there I mean the performance on them is that that is pretty bad like I tapped on facebook today and I'd probably count at about six or seven seconds until it's diet loading like actually loading online well if you're choosing between saying X plus and a Lumia 520 which would be the better choice well I think this was 20 * the moment I mean just because yet reevaluate your life but I mean I think the risk it also is that that they're pushing this is way to like get people into the market ecosystem which definitely needs to happen because everyone's got android devices they're signing into google accounts where everyone's got an iphone assigning to iCloud and almost really signed devices on Microsoft's accounts and stuff so like to get that ecosystem buying stuff then they need they kind of need stuff like this and but I like the way that I see is not it's not like a line like Windows Phone this is not all integrated in so what's to say that we're not going to just buy this device and then just not used one drive for just use the Android apps that they actually want to use and it just you know like people just go the complete opposite way I there's no Google services there but I mean who knows what Google like I don't know if Google would ever release them outside of their the GMs servicin stuff but I mean who knows it's just a it's a really weird device all right tom we gotta let you go and because Dan is eating all of your ham in Barcelona uh but thank you so much for joining us and that's good we will see you soon excuse me so the other thing that happened today was that the other thing there were a lot of things HTC we did some nothing's they had some phones yeah but they're real phones are coming later in March but the other actual announcements in terms of like good phones today was Sony and Sony i think is sort of a little under the radar compared to samsung here but i think yeah may actually have just come out with a better phone yeah well the same thing I've been last year right we actually have a z1 right here and I just just covered in a finger prints and see this is recovered and figure completely covered in your prints but it was definitely one of the sleeper hits of 2013 universally well reviewed and well liked but just didn't get the traction of a gs4 or even an HTC one wasn't on every US carrier so if they can if they can right those wrongs with the Z 2 which is what they announced today in 2014 they're off to a good start yeah so Vlad savov spent some time at the phone and we have a hands-on so let's check that out hey guys why would a virtue at Mobile World Congress 14 in Barcelona and Sony just concluded its press event here and is shown up its new generation of Xperia devices for 2014 this is the Xperia z2 success to the z1 and there's also experienced at two tablet there isn't much knew about them in terms of industrial design queries that you very much looks like the originals at one however the screen is now five point two inches it keeps the same footprint but the screen is larger and the pretty big upgrade with the display is a new life color LED IPS screen so the viewing angles are much much improved and Sony actually claims that this is the widest color palette of any mobile devices this applies for both experienced tablets at you and you experience it to smartphone it is very impressive I've also many they said that it's even it's an even wider color gamut than apple's ipad and iphone so that's a quite cool impressive the camera is still the same 20.7 megapixel sensor as we've seen as I said one quite a powerful camera the sony has added 4k video recording to it it's saying its borrowing technology from its handycam range and it's added some more mented we added six weeks and such things to video now which you could have had previously with just photos also there's a new 120 frames a second slow motion video recording at 720p resolution that's a very nice and impressive feature the sony demonstrated to me and what happened to have it but that's the experience said too so it's a pretty decent upgrade that however relative to deserve one it's really all about the display it's your quad core Snapdragon now it's 801 processor but really isn't that much of big league and it ships with Android 4.4 in March now moving on to the Xperia z2 tablet again it's very impressive in terms of the display it's full HD 1920 x 1200 I believe but it's those live color leds and the IPS is played a very much the difference between this in the original Z tablet from Sony and also the thinnest this is a six point four millimeters of thin tablet which makes it one of the thinnest it's certainly the thinnest that is waterproof Xperia z2 smartphone is waterproof as well naturally unlike the Xperia z2 this is glass on the front but doesn't have girls on the back it's actually quite a grippy matte surface you can have it in black or in white if it was very good to the touch and it's extremely thin and light this is thinner than the ipad air even though it's pretty much the same size a 10.1 inches and it's a physically it's a very impressive device it also has juice from firing stereo speakers it's something so many calls escort surround sound and it has new digital noise canceling technology which works with bundled headset which comes with both Xperia z2 and experience a 2 tablet other than that this also ships with Android 4.4 it also has a Snapdragon 801 processor you're on difference really between this and smartphone is that it has an 8-megapixel camera rather than 20 megapixel one and you have a very start to so many skit on here it's almost entirely stock Android it's just little tweaks such as the quick settings brightness etc that are customized by Sony it's still very familiar but really it's all about the new industrial design which new Xperia z2 tablet and the new displays we experience there too and that's our first look at them here at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona so I really think the Xperia z2 not well named but the z3 is going to be cool but anyway I think it's it might be the best phone we've seen so far and loud made a big deal about the display and that's awesome but I think the most important or most interesting thing might be the 4k video recording which I can't decide if it's just a total gimmick or really cool I think that it's I mean remember care I just last month and see yes he loves well he loves oh ok but he also said that it's what six years out from from broad consumerization so I think that in the short term it's a gimmick feature I mean it sure it's nice to have and what we're hearing stories of 4k phones coming next year yeah but Mr you're gonna want to play your video back right from my dear to go right I love seeing Sony in this challenger position because I feel like they feel really forced to make just amazing phones right now they're not in the the samsung position of oh we can just phone it in and do an S 4 plus which is basically what that's five is they've they came to the table last year with just an amazing phone of z1 the z2 by all appearances even better than I just hope that it's going to be on the carriers that matter I hope so too so we actually have blad vlad savov the one and only so Vlad here's my question to you is is the Z to the best phone at mwc so far hola amigos can you hear me ok hello yes we can am I Olsen Spanish yeah I mean your Spanish is fantastic i was your beer that's what I'm your beard is amazing your eye it's all true okay um well what can I say that wasn't in the hands of video ready so now that you've seen that way now that you've seen the z2 and the gs5 I think we have a pretty good sense of like what these two companies are doing so what how do you feel about what Sony's up to now that you've seen a champ too soon these juniors oh man so apart from refreshments overhead announcements please I do actually feel that way I do you feel like the experience that you might just be the best phone of the show which was quite up because it was announced that a incredibly early time here in europe and middle of the night in the United States just because I mean first of all is waterproof samsung got a big round of applause it's gs5 events for being water resistant but the sony is waterproof and it actually does have that cringe-worthy statement that Samsung made modern glam look do you feel like I said to as a modern look while still being waterproof and that combination is incredibly hard to achieve in my opinion and the same is true of desert to tablet these devices in terms of industrial design I just amazing the real amazing it is that two tablet in particular really feels like the closest thing you've ever seen or felt to just an interactive screen like you really feel like it's just the display that you can interact with there's no sense of Technology because it's just that then my only reservation though I have to say this with the z1 cameras and hopefully deserve to is an improvement in that front is the focus I saw somebody taking some photos of the crowd here the Samsung event what is l1 compact and the focus was struggling it was going back and forth and he just wasn't focusing correctly and I knew that person's pain because I revere that bone and it's the biggest problem that Saudi really hazard the book it's just a few perfections away from really delivering an amazing phone yeah so actually I'm curious about the tablet because it seems to me that Sony's always kind of half-assed its tablet strategy it's like well we figured out how to make this thing at five inches let's just do the same thing at 10 inches is this like do you get the sense that this is a real thing that Sony cares about or is it just sort of a weird add-on for them to make a phone and they're like well tablets here's one I think that's unfair i think from sony's internal perspective they're being consistent and like i say to make this thing six point four millimeters in thickness and still retain a 6,000 milliamp hour battery and stick in this new life color LED display that sony has to me is just in technical and industrial design terms and engineering terms is hugely impressive I still don't find a terribly good use for ten inch android tablet that's consistently the issue with these devices yeah but you're gonna buy any one of them this is z2 tablet z2 tablet is absolutely the one okay so why why aren't we talking more about Sony at this point I mean it seems like Samsung has so completely dominated this market is this enough for Sony to get some actual play and discussion here or are they too far out of it like what's what sort of the vibe on sony versus the world here at barcelona i think there's a lot of inertia that goes with this if you think about sony a decade ago it was riding high on a success in the 90s and whatever the company did people gave it credit get attention and time because it was Sony and frankly that's Samsung's position at the moment so Samsung is being more iterative than sony in between generations but that doesn't in fact the attention of the company gets because it's just so huger than I bring give so many time is I mean Saudis biggest flaw with it smartphones what is it it's displays for a long enormous a long time it's had pretty terrible displays far be behind the competition it's corrupted that in a big way right here at mwc give so many time give it a few months give it the next generation I think the hype start building up around its products again yeah I mean and they just continue to splash it with water at every at every possible no my splash it that's the point this is where Sony can make push Sampson can take splashes Sony could take the whole die yeah that's true i mean you just you just wrote sony's marketing campaign is what you just did wait so I I haven't me to ask you again about the display because you're getting me all excited and I just need to know is it really is it perfect now like is it every bit as good as the Sony display it needs to be because this the z1 is really great except for the display which is really not great but you're saying maybe in pletely solve this problem yes the zoo on display is garbage it is medio qwerty a few points below midi is it it's just not acceptable to me the viewing angles are terrible this new one is right up there with the best ones I am NOT ready to get on board with Sony to say this is the best color palettes that sit on a mobile device I feel like the LG g2 aGC's displays have very strong competitors in the Android ecosystem and Apple obviously has its high devices but it is right up there that's what someone needs to be it needs to be up there with the ladies yeah okay so I don't want to think about Samsung before we let you go because you reviewed the galaxy gear for us and had not exactly favorable things to say so as someone who has been forced to spend a lot of time with this thing are you actually are you impressed with what they're doing is it better or you are you excited to review the next one or are you still staying away excited about what it didn't Mobile World Congress and in terms of the gear tues I can't say that I am but I'm looking at the gift fit right now and all I can say is if the gif it is everything that it promises to be there is no gonna be a gear free because the gif it looks like where we need to go how so I think thing well you look at the gear too they put a home button on it that is a smartphone-sized hardware you know they're trying to cram too much they put in a camera speaker device's microphone is now bezel I'm sorry couldn't hear that sorry I keep going I'm just saying they're trying to cram way too much with a gear to the essentially again trying to do this shrunken down smartphone thing and if anything android has taught us it's you can't take a smartphone it just expanded or blow it up to a tablet size I don't think you can take Android or similar experience and then shrink it down even if its ties in that would to get to the UI is still pretty much the same to fit on the other hand I mean to make a pun on the name it seems like a much better fit for your wrist no and back and that curve display is pretty gorgeous ABS like yeah that's exciting good yeah i agree i think i hope that that being just the keyer and they lose the name otherwise so Vlad the this is this is the big day right most of the news or most of the big news at this point is is over but there's still several days left of Mobile World Congress so what what are you looking forward to and Chris you know as much about this to anybody to what should we be looking for and paying attention to over the next several days glad you for example I think we're going to take a look at the new yotaphone which is that deal display phone with a color LCD on one side and an ePaper display on the back they upgrading it now with two touch screens on both sides I'm going to see how networking is one of the screen still inc that's correct yeah oh cool I mean the premise with the yotaphone is really if you want to have an article you have low battery life and you don't have Samsung's amazing ultra power saving technology haha this is taking out the poo on your color display and then you flip it on to the back onto the in this way and then you switch off the power consuming this way and just read on the ink I mean that sounds amazing what about you Chris what are you looking forward to this week I think that that the remainder of this show is as much about what isn't announced as what is we have to pretty significant mobile announcements coming up here that weren't at Mobile World Congress and aren't going to be one being of course HTC's new flagship widely referred to as the m8 right and we're expecting that at their march event it seems like you know of course a HTC and Samsung and all these other guys kind of play this chess match that's on going to make sure that they're getting sufficient spotlight for their device and I think that HTC probably could have shown the phone here opted not to knowing that the gs5 was going to be shown it's probably a good move it was probably a good yeah and of course the the one was really well reviewed so seeing what they're going to do with that next-generation device is important for them especially since they're kind of on the ropes and then the other being the rumors of this google smartwatch right Eric Schmidt who has that be happening this week I don't think so because Eric Schmidt keynoted Mobile World Congress for a number of years den this year in favor of Mark Zuckerberg who did nothing who did not be just like stood up there silent for an hour and then left as far as I'm concerned that's right yeah flesh is packed and left right um so I think I suspect that if Google was going to do something with that here they would have blown it out they would have at least had someone on stage for that keynote so uh we'll see the rumor is March but of course they have I out coming up in June as well right though they're just gonna drop it at South by Southwest there's cuddle up with watches on and be like hey guys South by would actually be a pretty good place for that when you think about am all right well thank you glad really appreciate you joining us and that I guess about does it for for us this is this is a big day for mobile stuff we have lots more coming over the next several days but for now you can follow us on Twitter we're at verge I'm Pierce David for which I am deeply deeply sorry your Z power for reasons I don't totally understand Zed power as the Canadian power you're right ready to say I apologize thanks to dan seifert and Vlad savov and tom warren for being here they're all on Twitter but I don't know what they are on Twitter so you can find them there will be back on Thursday with the verge cast will have lots more of the news the Virgin Mobile shows that tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow fingers cross fingers cross assuming so there's this joke about Barcelona that their whole internet is held up by two dsl dsl routers that duct tape to your san jose and i think that's very real fair enough so assuming 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