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all right welcome to the verge live i am your host ross miller joining me is dr. chaos right here hello hello dr. chaos I'm here so here's a tap so let's talk about our guys are at Aoife in Germany that's what's happening today and it's probably the biggest trade show outside of cs definitely at least for technology and Samsung and Sony in these two companies in particular are throwing out all the stops because Apple is next week yes so Samsung's big sure I mean that just that it's just a huge parade of products from both companies today and also be clear late last year dzifa too I think happened just before samsung or before an apple event a lot of time announcements there yeah we've really made this trade show something to go for just months before see us and with the watch with the gear I think the I think Samsung really wanted to beat Apple yes because they're xtina obviously was expecting Apple to make a watch nobody knows why people should wear these watches I mean I have a lot of ideas I have a lot of thoughts about why a SmartWatch should be good i think the pedal is the pebble is a really good proving ground yeah the kickstarter phenom pebble like it's great I mean but Samsung's coming out I like phenom it's a good word uh but Samsung's coming in like about a year before we're expecting Apple dude we're not thinking we're not thing as much here yeah I don't think one night they coming up next week though not I really would be very surprised no this is they're getting out this is like that kind of creation or like the industry it's a watershed moment first SmartWatch we've been talking about it for a full year this is the first major company no offense to Sony that's actually really doing this you haven't sony has one see but they were so Sony SmartWatch day was like and a watch that's kind of here it's from last year do it o generations Samsung's product the gear is a full-fledged like Andy I device has like 70 apps okay so where I think we're ready again with the hands on let's try that one more time yeah hey guys have leveled a ver charity for Berlin and we take a look at samsung's new galaxy gear smartwatch this is a smartphone accessory the company is just introduced can take an our first look at it unlike other smartwatches this one actually comes with a embedded camera it's 1.9 megapixel camera it also has a speaker so it has this metal buckle and a speaker and it has a metal case it has multiple watch faces as you might expect from smartwatches has notifications it has your contact you can take voice memos s voice activation you can do quite a few things that relate to your galaxy device Samsung describes this is perfect companion for the new Galaxy Note 3 which it's increased today fortunately the speaker seems to be rather quiet so if you actually want to carry out a call you want to do it in a quiet location because you'll do the kind of futuristic thing of holding this up to your head and having a phone call that way if you swipe down from top you should be able to access the camera and you can record up to 10 second videos at 720p resolution and you can take quick snapshots Sampson has a number of applications dedicated to this he has a pedometer right here and it is working on other apps from other developers it actually has more than 70 applications as of September 2013 and says it's working really hard with developers to try and get some more the display on here is a 1.6 63 inch display 320 x 320 resolution Super AMOLED the processor on board is an 800 megahertz Exynos single core processor from Samsung and the price should be somewhere around three hundred dollars Samson says 299 when it launches in early October in the United States it would actually have a global launch a little earlier than that by the end of September so this is a very first look at the samsung galaxy gear to use here at Aoife Berlin 2013 all right that is nowhere near as likely as like let me just let me just stop okay stop you back to 99 not look I've paid two hundred dollars for watch before yes it's been done like this like a fashion washed like a fashionable right cool how much was this this one no no actually either i'm in thia the metal chains right this one is this mystery this one was like I don't know I got this one it's like 80 uh what's it but yeah all right yeah it's old this is priceless is what I'm saying look I paid a lot of money for watch people pay a lot of money for watches but if you're gonna try to go into market of like the kids who don't have watches and this is the major accessory for your phone I don't think three hundred dollars is way right to be anything as a watch as a fashion accessory it's not something you replace often but the SmartWatch itself that's probably going to get upgraded every couple years you're gonna want to keep buying this and for three hundred dollars that's not an option right well it may be so the big and the other problem is Vlad has it in his written review or is written report on a on the gear and not so much the video but he says it's really lagging right it looked a little bit especially with ya when he was swiping up you can see it's like really slow so it's three hundred dollars for an 800 my cards prostitutes lying you for battery life that is quoted at about a day I just I'm excited about the idea of storm watches I really am I think that I think they're gonna be cool I don't know if I don't know if racing the beat Apple by making a small crappy smartphone that has a battery life throughout a day is like the way to go no here's a couple other things that is worth mentioning because it is a big announcement for smartwatch but it's limited in functionality it's a little slow and for now it's only compatible with the galaxy note 3 in the galaxy note 10.1 which were also just announced no other android phones certainly not an iphone or anything like that you need to buy brand new samsung devices with they said they're going to upgrade the s for the note 2 and then so i think that a lot of speculation is that like they need to add android or a bluetooth 4.3 support the low-energy sport so that is like part of i'm sorry bluetooth smart which is part of android 4.3 so they've got to upgrade these phones android 4.3 so like there's just a lot right by the time the thing comes out i wouldn't expect there's no way they're gonna put the single market without compatible if they ask for hopefully not and but the thing is also like this is like such an early thing like it does feel almost prototype ish in the way it's like so limited in scope I mean I think it's cool it was really cool way no wrong but let's be on a prototype write it so it's a finished product they've got the app support right we just got a press release web pocket for the phone yeah evernote what you have evernote glimpse path myfitnesspal and RunKeeper which obviously very important for this trip it and pocket to it just gets great yeah it's great manulife look at it here to flood alert that's awesome all the ideas are there and i think actually where Samsung has succeeded in sort of like beating Apple of the punch is that they have an idea of what this product should be yes it is flushed out beyond we're Samsung we just made a bunch of stuff right like it's it's it's at least like a complete idea of my father but Samsung's forte is selling to the masses and this is not a device for the masses this is early adopter like you're paying a pretty penny it's limited compatibility you must really want a SmartWatch and really trust Samsung before you get this project and that second piece of trusting samsung is a big deal I mean Samsung does not have a super terrific history of supporting these products that don't succeed so you have to believe it this thing is going to succeed to the point where Samsung's going to keep releasing updates for it or they're not going to put out a new 18 months from now and like forget about that which they do I mean they do it all lastly this does feel like I don't like I hate to make an apple compares it feels like the first generation macbook air it's crummy it's early adopter but a year later they finally fix it like figure out what to do those people first shy macbook airs like crap yeah no look it's very exciting people are freaking out about and I can't imagine people aren't gonna buy it in droves oh no I'm probably to buy one too well I see I can't write because I have a one well so I guess yesterday I would have to buy a note 3 which by the way if we're in talk just really quickly about that before get back to watch is five point seven inches it's actually bigger than the note 2 which was five point three inches like they're just making that phablet thing where they want to call it like so much bigger now it's at the point of it that's exactly it's now to the point where I don't know if it'll fit my pocket I certainly never want to pull it out so I need like you have to have the watch if you're going to get this so actually that's why another question so you can pair the watch with the note 10.1 the other note and then soon the s4 right which one do you pick I so it was very clearly an accessory right it's not it's not a primary computing device it's not a primary mobile but it was like you know why would you pair it to a 10 inch tablet what do you do with your phone half the time you look for notifications now I don't have to actually pull it out to do that what do you put why would you pair it to a 10 inch tablet know what I mean that's like AI just slightly a why not situation we have it but that's that's samsung samsung samsung why not Ivan at school like you got to respect them for just always doing that writing like and we made a watch you compare it to this 10 inch tablet with a pen samsung why not that's good I just I don't understand like um where they think the real market for this product is beyond the market of people who hate apple and want to say they had a SmartWatch before Apple which is a hungry market it's a big market and if they get huge one if they get that they can fund the next one that is for the masses it's not quite google glass what's that same kind of strategy like we're getting people out there not limiting it but God knows how many but weren't going to buy it 300 watch with a brand-new 23 nadal or device the two things i think that are really awesome at it are a camera in the wristband which is silly and I have a theory about this okay and the speaker and the thing which is flat says just too quiet but the only you can make it sounds like this yeah that's all I can't wait to like walk around going oh yeah literally they just yes I don't she was just do this for no reason so this is cool if they make this work that's the best this is like classic camera my thriller and I think this comes down this is what the Sony lens too I think we're at the dawn of a new age of creep shot in it like that's basically what I'm seeing here is like recognize this are about ready reinvest in like so you can I hide this this thing is like this this one that takes ultra this is Sony's new yeah music video recorder I'm gonna drop this past test two of them in the world you can just like oh look it's just that's great I'm just listening to you and they're very like it's very thin it's real anxious hello hello roster Noah hello how's it going so big brother I'm paltrow per side we can talk about these later yeah telling a new age of creep shot innovation is that is that is the catchphrase the day the Amaze creep shot what why would you want a camera near a span just feel like which i think is it look I actually think it's kind of cute with the one exception that it looks like a giant boar you imagine like just think I'm CA ladies and clasping like now yeah is that time time is oh you won't know what time it is Croucher pretty high look I I don't mean maybe the camera and then the speaker are like the things that appealed to me because they're the least they're the ones that take a watch beyond just being a watch okay right like a smart wat like everything else about it's like sort of expected well be like well it's expected but it's never been done well like a watches glanceable information needs to be just what time is it now it's who the front you know who is emailing me at two in the morning in apps I mean I want to see what these apps do we have any screenshots of this I don't think we do yet if we do i'm sure they'll pop the screen but i am curious about Evernote for example it's alert pocket I'm not gonna read on what is a one-point 63-inch 320 by 3 20 ml LED screen I'm not going to read that like a full book on that right or an article so the pocket things weird I'm glad it's there but again it's all just because kind of thing kudos really Suzie kudos pocket for doing that good luck can you change the band's I don't think so because the cameras on there yeah but I mean maybe it's connected in some way some kind of we have all these colors I think the colors are cool the colors are cool the names are ridiculous gah wild orange yeah rose gold which none of us read or goal of that point it's like a reddish the rose rose rose rose color gold rose gold jet black mocha gray oatmeal beige which is the most unattractive adjectives you could add to this color and lime green of course so I mean if I could change them if I could get all the bands of the van spray cost $100 I'm sure something like that I just here's what I but I'm trying to get out of the gear right now is they made it I think it's cool i think if i had an s4 I probably get one instantly as soon as we know when it's gonna be compatible whatever you know what we just wanted to come out october so it comes out in a hundred and 49 countries September 25th the US and everyone else early no exact date so 140 on all the other country like such a small country he was at in the Weinberg in band so not summer 2010 I just like when it comes out it's compatible ps4 I'm not a big fan of the s4 I'm not a big fan of TouchWiz right but I am so intrigued by the idea of a SmartWatch they'll switch the s for a little bit just to try it out it it does have a good camera right and I'll say is what the the Moto X which I still love I've been using this for a lot it doesn't have a good camera yeah and the thing I use the most is just this act of notification right if I can replace that with a watch and like it's a compelling case agnostic of how much money I'm gonna be spending to make this a lot of money and actually that's the other problem I think that limiting it to and I know Samsung makes the most phones but limiting it to just just the same side that small list of Samsung devices s4 included that's tough let's tie like it I think there are a lot of people with android phones and a lot of people with iphones who would love them to get a watch and I you know I know Apple is gonna lock their stand to like i get i get it right but when it's samsung it's a little bit different like I don't want to live in a samsung ecosystem I i don't and i do not know buddy buddy else no Apple specification is another in the software Samsung's like s world seco system for psycho porsche you got it cuz they're a watchmaker to you on top of everything else god uh no look I just I don't I don't think that that is Samsung strength I don't accept but building an ecosystem is samsung samsung is great at building devices that plug into any ecosystem you want to live in Samsung's created building pretty much anything you can think of at any moment in time and then like which is blowing an eye on don't think they have like we have a dart board that's different inches of a device and at some point they're just like once a week they're like we're gonna throw it to it when do you think the next screen size the watch comes out so it's 1.63 it's a very particular number yeah i'm waiting for the 1.65 galaxy gear s2 yeah a lot i'm sure and i'm sure someone to sams to Nikita's budget yes I actually i will say this i do think it looks very handsome I do like it it's not an ex looks better than the pebble yeah pebble has a distinctly cheap look I mean I'm a big fan of the pebble and you know any time I give anything a really good you I get a pebble really good review right you always have this fear that you're completely wrong yes uh especially the devices so unproven like the pebble and I think the pebble has like born it out I think people have a peddler very happy with not to mention there's been a lot more developer support with it as time has gone on get a pebble now which is by the only a hundred fifty dollars yeah compatible with all your Android device is compatible with iOS right you can do a lot more when I right now yeah the word on the street is iOS 7 will increase the compatibility right because some of the things we saw like that was in the Iowa 7 build note right so that mean the pebble is like people are really happy with it's still really nerdy it's still really geeky you still off like hack away at it to make it work right I don't know three hundred dollars i don't think the gear has to be buy it you take it out of the box you turn it on it starts doing awesome stuff in that part to me has not been demonstrated yet either yeah for a company like an apple or a sonar even sometimes a google to say here's a lot of requirements to make this work but once you do it's awesome yeah I get that but for samsung to do that which is like it's out of character for them I don't know I don't think I for whatever say here's a lot of requirements to make it work I think after that was gonna be like ipod one you must have a macbook or an ibook nah that's like but their requirement was like you must have itunes on your computer right and then you plug in this thing and then it works right now like with the iphone and so you must have it machos you must have ATT but those are pretty those are just threshold requirements right right for the pebble it's you must want to like figure out how to cover workers right and then you must do all these things you have to install this app and do all the setup and like what the pebble app have your imap so your email information so can download look there's a lot of steps right right I Samsung with this watch I think they have to get beyond here's all these steps to you take out the box and you must have them you must have a galaxy s4 is like a totally valid environment and then those things will somehow automatically be like magical together and this time next year when every phone coming out has bluetooth like smarts like it's a moot point but then again it this time next year everyone can have a smartphone or SmartWatch so about that look I mean I'm again I'm very high in smart watches are very high of the idea of the gear I just and I'm very yeah I'm pleased with Samsung for having what appears to be a focused idea mm-hmm that's a first yeah good on this I mean in the dolls thanks to this what what the sudden the event was a think tank Samsung has it some think tank where he came up with this yeah and kudos kudos I think tank is sitting there reading Apple Insider every day just waiting to see what the next rumors are you know they're gonna build a TV oh god be amazing if it's out of the thing tank they were like should build a TV how they crane so nuts at Samsung's week we are well sorry Sam some thanks for the cookies these devil sir oh yeah we got one too i love it i mean but like the competition smartwatches is going to get fierce its pebble now it's kind of sony is pebble competition for any i don't think it is I think I think pebble is out there they're gonna like you know they're gonna they're going to validate the market right people want them they have validated yet absolute least for the small subset of people who are into pebbles that Google just bought whim which was a super nerdy product that i read that Chris gave a really bad reviews here you can tell you know and I've heard a lot of a google and motorola like building a watch together obviously that the apple rumors are out there right samsung it's great they beat everybody to the market with this thing I just think three hundred dollars for what appears to be laggy product that only works with a tiny subset of Android devices out there not a tiny subset but just I mean they there are more galaxy s3s in our galaxy s4's right and it doesn't support the s4 yet you know I mean look the thing is I'm excited for it I will probably get it because that's just I'm a definitional of nerd that's fine I accept that I would never recommend anyone else because it's we're compatibility so unless unless you're buying something like brand-new also but this time next year like I think it's a much different story yeah and this first years can be very interesting to see how people adopt it cuz the note one was a surprise success also write and actually we should talk about the note a little bit because you know until we get the watch who knows I i I'm going on what I will be talking about and Tom about item and we've talked about and talked about it too did that video which we saw you know so it's great I just think 300 RSS watches it's a tough sell for what appears to be kind of an early version of this product right um but let's talk about the note so then you're right so the first note was panned all over the place yeah but it's so well did so well people love it I see note 2's everywhere uh and I was like man that is a big screen actually I use the no 2 for a month I loved it like I really like I would walk around like little using snowed sorry yes no I don't understand that at all um it just it was good for taking notes like it had a commuter but do we ever know three oz on I think we do um I'm sure I'll start playing over us there we are there we go with its faux leather back into this I dollars this is like they ran out of ideas so I the note one was like really big right people loved it the note to like tighten it all up in that way that Sam you can like make a bezel smaller and the components get smaller it gets its smaller in the note 3 it's like we're gonna make the screen bigger or make everything bigger an industrial design wise fake leather well okay it's way better I haven't played with it yet but I'm much happier seeing this than I am the galaxy s4's the idea I don't wanna call it slippery it's time in a plastic these are fake plastic stitches but if I don't like feel disgusting after touching it I think it's a step up from the s4 I feel dirty because I when I like touch that I feel I don't feel dirty it's shameful after touching your problem you get if you get a case for the s4 it's fine be like out of the case whatever look I the no.3 is it befuddling product I just like really do not understand every time I see what I'm like man what a big screen and I will say of that caliber of devices with that size screen I won't say the word but you know what I'm thinking yeah the note is obviously the best one and I think that just speaks to how bad everyone else on only one what's what's another one LG makes a gigantic one right Sony's gonna make a gigantic one sure we've heard about HTC like right now it's really samsung and LG break like the big huge and i just know that i'm not saying the word and it's just the state of android skins is so bad that once samsung has the best skin right on that size device i mean i think the other arguments like people today own smartphones and tablets you largely the same thing with few exceptions if you have a watch why not have a bigger phone that you don't have to check as much and it almost replaced the tile like I never get a note device and a tablet it would serve both function I can read comfortably on that I totally I mean I understand so I'm a big iPad that's fine I like the ipad mini just like sits around Mike I guess that's cool and I love the ipad for the apps like yeah hardware it's great beautiful but like it's really cuz the app ecosystem is still so much better since seven uh oh I had it I had I fly fly with a couple years a couple months um I got bored with it yeah I guess you have I kept forwarding but you have a little phone I do have a little phone I can check my calendar is from saying it so the note 3 is like I'm sure it will be a huge success the same way the fresh two notes for a huge success I'm sure that it's like feature list is great I'm sure people are gonna freak out over S Pen because who doesn't love it they're gonna take s memos and snow time ya know that the tagline is every day made easier with s-pen I don't understand you know it's not easier is writing with a pen on things like it there's a reason we move the whole world move to keyboards well I mean there's something we you don't use a like actual pen and paper ever you like there are very limited times than that okay so maybe not in all seriousness I use whenever taking like dude meetings like I'd use paper and pen that's still the most natural way for me to take care of it you're going to pull out a galaxy net now consider it if it's now it's five point seven inches i have a little more space people who love the Galaxy Note will very much love the Gaussian three I think that's obvious which is not presently big market you have huge people I'm just mash I'm not a big person and I like I i got the only person with smaller wrist on the staff is vlad savov who of course did our galaxy gear smartwatch hands on I'm just saying every time I see one on a subway like man that is a yes and I'm like drawn to it I'm like man maybe god i wish this screen was bigger but that's it like there's no there's nothing else beyond it because you know it is it's a giant samsung phone yeah running giant samsung software at what joint samsung people that's like that no you're right but at what point does is that note too big and we have to call a tablet again i think when it stops being as soon as it hits six inches so we and there are six inch friends out there in the world but i think as soon as you hit six inches you've got to stop lying to yourself so cuz it's like it's true just like don't stop buying like there are 7 inch tablets in the world like you're almost there like it's a tablet so I mean it's a really small tablet is not no longer a really big site completely believe the next year the note 4 will be five point nine eight inches and that will be that will be the limit I mean you know if I like to get smaller they'll they'll find some other way to make the body smaller they'll do whatever though you know where they'll put two smaller notes together they'll click them together multiplayer just surprised samsung there's a free idea for you to just randomly build for no reason connect two phones together like one big string you can call it as string s double screen screen that's the any other big samsung announcements we should talk about very quickly is the note 10.1 2014 edition is what they're calling you soon look any better ah we have a picture i think is the note 10.1 i will say it was one of the ugliest products it looked like a wii u controller um sorry that's a rather than i can say um may give a picture it does what he's doing that it has 2560 by 1600 resolution the same as the nexus 10 that's spectacular which is great cuz you know this will be much more mass market ball because it's not a Nexus device right we'll probably have a ton of OS apps I see what they're doing here that's a little bit better it's a little bit less ugly well Brody we had to weigh pictures of this at all we can you know it is definitely it looks like it there we go it looks like a gigantic galaxy s4 yeah it does is still ugly but less ugly than the previous note template so coming I hope the back isn't is nasty I wonder how this thing does Versailles like I really do like question who buys this product because we know the ipad dominates tablet market oh it's same leatherback thing oh yeah same faux leather so this is samsung's new move they went from slimy plastic to fake plastic love I think that's an improvement I'm very excited for that it's like it's like they're slowly it's like they're going through the water making process with you yeah oh my god this slimy animal hide and next thing out we've turned it into fake plastic leather I mean it's just uh Samsung Oh Samsung i I'm not mad it's just I it i don't know why they think that the s4 design language is the one that they should like a run with because i do not think the s4 is particularly handsome phone know which itself like it's a very ish ds3 but yesterday was I thought better looking I thought was a wide yesterday better-looking me ask for I don't know what they did to change that and if you fear that thang tank please fix this I mean so thanks to think I have all my boss go the sales like a whirl can we know what the name of the think tank is uh I think they just call it the samsung think tank in the way it is my assumption that their lot they're like hermetically but if they're actually in a tank is that correct I think there's no windows and they're just in there alone Mike like damn and like a bunch of tablets but they can look at the outside world yeah and they're constantly drawing on snow snow it's I mean that honestly have an S design what I'm sure look I'm sure it's a very nice glass and steel building with lots of Windows free food only few looks like my TV wall coats screen sizes biometrics and I bet there's a button in every office in samsung where you can just call up the screen size 4.3 is little like I before you just hit a lever like it's expensive it's like 3.6 all right we got this yeah its casino slot is there anything else when you talk about samsung I don't think that I needed that was big I mean it's I think what's important is like EFA's become big because you can now announce a product in September and release it in time for holidays yes like years ago CES is like this is where all the announcers going to happen for the full year and now the turn around time the manufacturing time is so much faster and this is a really the last big creature of the year so of course it's gonna be the biggest one going for it now look I think these I think to what the watch is clearly Samsung's focal point arrest here we're going to hear a lot about this watch what they're doing with a watch how they beat Apple to the watch I mean that's the narrative samsung wants right and i think what they don't quite realize is that the big market of human beings in the world is going to wait for Apple to come out with this watch yes because at three hundred dollars they don't have a story and they don't have apples marketing and brand muscle yet right we're getting there I just don't think they have they can I don't think he can like take this thing and put it on the Today Show like 300 or watch is open today show I think I mean like you know but you know what I'm saying like I don't think they have it they haven't told me a compelling general you story beyond like i'm a huge nerd and I want a one and a half inch AMOLED display in my wrist and so I'm going to spend 30 dollars here's the thing for the next 12 months they don't have to because there is no competition we can work out all the kinks get public opinion they love you know designing around this public about it yeah yes five mega gear ultra active with Bluetooth really smart I know it was like they have a full year to work out the kinks so when apple SmartWatch does come out one they have brand recognition already people know what galaxy Gear's even if they never considered buying why why do the prices drop I'm much better device I also i don't think apple's gonna do their watch in September next week with the eyes oh god no absolutely not well Apple definitely has another event in October you really think you're gonna see some kind of Apple wearable device even a hint of it this year they could they could but I mean there's a reason that the rumors spun up like ultimately it's Apple couldn't do the TV right too many challenges too many hurdles we talked about the link that's why the watch rumors have spun up all right I I think Apple has to put out some sort of new product line this year I think they feel the pressure very hard right I there's a chance we could see it sooner in that try you know there's ostomy I i put it 5050 it could be next year we heard a lot more rumors about it like last February's to last favor eyes when the New York Times The Wall Street on both reported curved glass with her Johnny I've israeli / take taken to it the last we heard was Tim Cook Tim Cook wrist is a profound opportunity yes but the last thing last rumor we heard i think was Bob Mansfield's overseeing it adobe CTO Kevin Lynch is a major player in this um and so that that's all great exciting to Stephen Elop is trying to watch burger rice amazing they brought why not heir apparent to every company technology Stephen Elop well join Apple plummet the price and give them up with Microsoft know that's a conspiracy theory I really don't believe that but God Internet's mean I digress someone just told me the samsung think tank should be called the S attack or stank the step pretty good all rights on what side let's talk about something so if you have more samsung questions believe me tweet them at us lead us work we're still answering to the best of my ability yes or with tropes you never know what I'm gonna do uh yeah so this is the fun part because we actually have it in studio there was three big Sony announcements the flagship xperia z1 which I'm actually excited about so the z1 has like a huge sensor net right on 20.7 megapixel biggest except for lumia right I mean that's that that's like stabbing to me but it means also not a numbers game to the pictures they showed look good we'll see when we tried ourselves in hours well yeah we haven't played dried play with one I don't know fly play with Xperia Z I think you did I think you did we were reckoned roll the tape there's a tape back there I don't know if you know this we run the holster yo ty glad I think the first thing you might notice that's new about the experience did one is the design you've just seen the aluminium frame and the solid aluminium block it comes from here it is crafted around the edge of the device the familiar aluminium on and off button now a hard camera key and a beautiful al-amin design around the outside and your headphone jack is now exposed whereas previously you had a flat one headphone jack is now exposed but the device is waterproof so you can still drop the experience it one into up to 1.5 meters of water leave it there for 30 minutes if you like and take it out happily the water jack will simply fill up the spigot the audio jack was simply fill up with water but will still work all right and did a big new improvements you have the new triluminos display technology which introduced with your bravia tvs exactly so that 5-inch full-hd 1080p screen now is a triluminos display straight from a bravia technologies that gives you the best color ever a wide arrange it so that's that and with the ex reality is better anyway it looks like the Xperia Z shop right in front of Italy it just has a good camera yeah it's got the different aluminum frame lemoore rugged it's actually fully waterproof is what they're calling us at a water-resistant yeah and there's no more slot on the headphone jack it's just open and so water what yeah I'm sorry I forgot about that I'm gonna buy it I'm gonna buy this phone uh 5-inch 1.7 megapixel camera but any like the on-screen buttons no but hide on-screen buttons let me use the rest of the screen but why would you take that away from me I mean they could have just not had it on there in the first place just put that give me a button why would you take the screen away from me you're you have plenty of buttons on the site at the volume button oh you it's great or the home button under the space bar at every app that's a cool idea so mad I just why do I get it I understand google had to make a choice because manufacturers are doing stupid button things put the buttons on the screen so he can control them because we're Google we need to but with some consistency basket and your lens on here you know that's way better I'm actually I will say this with the one I've come around to this stupid button and I still think it's stupid but at least I understand there's really two buttons what was there to understand they didn't pack the home button under the space bar okay so a capacitive home button under the space bar is a bad idea I agree and I don't mean whatever I know you can like rom it up rom it down or like change issues we love it like like I don't miss the H key anymore the virtual keyboard like you can just find your way I love you sir are you from asking when you're like trying to no kidding me it's a phone I'm all states every every every color of the rainbow all right I'm stopped let's talk about this let's let's talk about this this is God rumored and leaked all over the place Tony was not happy about this so this is the lens G this is I think so that DX one next one what's what's called the qx10 no the phone is it oh this xperia z 1 z 1 ok anyway the z1 is i think is very cool it is very much however the Xperia Z with a very nice camera right and I think Sony is really leaning in to their camera stuff there they're good at it very good and they put out a new next camera today which was very interesting oh really and that is 5 are our next Phi T which is very cool they put out an SLR style body the alpha a3000 okay which uses next lenses the next sensor like just cool camera stuff all the way around from sony and then they're there you know i think they thought long and hard about how they should how they can continue selling cameras to people using smartphones and i came up with this so this is the sony smart lens qx10 okay and this has an 18 megapixel sensor in it it's clear like this thing right here is not needed it's not necessary if you want to use the camera no it's not at all so this is just a clip okay which I'm going to take off I've got a connected HTC one here so this just clips on to a phone and then I can just like do it I can just now my phone has a gigantic lens attached to it congratulations and because it's FC the reason I have it works a little bit better with Android than iOS it works with both of them but it works a little better with Android especially he have NFC on your phone so gonna just unlock who've and you open the Sony PlayMemories app and it just it's just going to figure it out like it just found it it's connecting it okay this is all a bit slow I think everybody should recognize this is this is not like I'm gonna take a bunch of pictures you're a good time every time you turn on the app it does this yeah it's got to connect so this thing is creating a Wi-Fi network okay this the app connects to the Wi-Fi network and then here we go I've got it just sort of live doing stuff okay and I can just like look at you I already took this picture put on the internet a show you picture Ross and it's going to transfer to the camera off great so this takes a full rest picture it has a micro XD the other thing is that a size of camera it's got an xt slot and it's got an a memory stick mini micro whatever the smallest ones are because this thing literally was it's been leaked forever but I got it my hands like an hour ago so it saves it saves the full res to its internal memory you can transfer to the phone it saves a 2 megapixel picture so the people who saw me tweeted photo/ross earlier the reason that looked didn't look great is because that was the smaller 2 megapixel file that I was just screwing with so if you have a camera like the one so here's the thing i think the iphone 5 takes great photos yes i think using this with an iphone 5 is great playmemories app works just the same the clip actually you can tell that this was designed to like fit on the back of my phone it's because it looks lat it looks far more perfect than an iphone the be on the other phone so this looks great on iphone it works great the app works great but i think the iphone is a totally fine camera if you have a phone like the one where I think cameras a little bit more middling right this is amazing accessory so I think you know this is a one google play edition i think the camera app is not not so great it over exposes everything all the time take it over that going um did you just connect you need the passcode so yeah this thing is just making a Wi-Fi network okay things can connect to it did I tap it with an f state would that work yeah there's NFC I think it's turned off this one okay yeah so if you have NFC Sony's really big on NFC they're planning to have something like a hundred NFC accessories for their phone minnesota it is the on but if is why would you because it's useless so I mean Sony's really into NFC they wants you uh there's a button God nope that's the off look so this thing is 250 there's another one and it's basically a point-and-shoot caliber lens except like assembly in there and sensor they have another one in qx100 which is basically Sony's rx100 mark 2 it's a lot bigger it's way more expensive it's five hundred dollars right but what Vlad said which interested me is like he said it was the quality of the rx100 m2 which is it's the same camera yeah it's like the best point street that I've seen yes gorgeous so people love it so it's very much the same camera has a way faster lens as a as an f 1.8 lens mm-hmm carl zeiss too yes I mean like I'm gonna buy that one it's five hundred dollars when I buy it because I actually am intrigued by the idea of taking these pictures directly to my phone whereas you could buy the rx100 more too but that's six hundred fifty dollars so you can save a little bit of money and like have the thing integrated directly with your phone right that's awesome like this middle of the ground though it's a it's a nice testing like middle that like area like this is good pictures it's certainly better than this yeah but the setup is what's bothering me like what you needed the password once I don't know if you do with some of the initial setup and it's taking a long time to connect so I think Sony like I noticed that with the day at Xperia Z's there with the experience he was a little bit faster a little bit a little more sense right it's all again NFC tup so like you know you can just do stuff like you can just tap it and go okay so made a little bit more sense but this what we're experiencing right here was trying to connect to this wireless network we're just switching phones here that's problematic and I think right that's probably the only sticking point with the product because other than that it's if you could just turn it on and shoot pictures from a better lens a better sensor and having money on your phone it's a killer proposition no it's great umm I have to ask like once this is hooked up cuz like it still took a 30 seconds on there you can't do knee-jerk reaction shots you have to plan the stuff out yes are you waiting you can't go from cold to shooting right Superman like again with the iphone it's like I'm gonna take a picture and then phone fell asleep i'm taking a picture it's done it was done that was you cannot do what I just did with my iphone with that oh well like but it is a full camera could just like take a picture here you could if that thing had a memory card in it you could just use this camera like that hey could I just transfer later like oh you shut your site on yeah you can like a look at it if it had a card in there if it had a car so the planner is and again what's interesting about this is also nice other Wi-Fi cameras like the rx100 more to you can do exactly the same things right the experience is just being shrunk into this lens and clipping onto the back of the camera right that's not it still hasn't connected no no but i just wanted to start looking good on it I'm just saying it's I mean this stuff is all new it's not out yet it comes out end of the month and then the qx100 comes out i think the end of october okay and so you know well obviously get them improve you son he's very nice little like let me i was very excited so you let me see let me steal one basically for me event i look i think this is a great idea I think there is like all things there are some execution questions that remain in David's uh David Pierce is a yelling at me and Chad saying it is faster with an F say so that's that's good to know it is definitely faster so this yeah this has NFC and I can just some turn it on I can just open up right play matter I'm super good at Android yeah so this is going to connect and like one second here there's still taking like a while yeah yep there it connected so the one thing about this is now it's on here it's taking pictures away but like Ross was saying you don't need to have this attached to the camera so you see this they're all this you can go run that so now I'm just like pointing at stuff is Ross I can just like take a picture and it just worked so it's about 15 about 15 feet they say it works from and try to roll away this is quite a UH you've gotta hit back mmm oh oh right yeah yeah there we go so I can try to take a picture of this is super meta yeah Jordan you got this all right good yeah we got drunk so you could mean this is already like I said a new new age of creep shots it is a pond absolutely wait you guys I can attest no way no it's really nice to see you yeah can you turn that sound off speaking of creep shots I don't know okay but I'm gonna find a way just gonna tear it open where's that audio I mean like this isn't a camera this is just a circle yeah I just have a design a Cirque it's a very sensitive coaster don't it does make a super conical loud sound so it also has a lense Matt like it's funny how much of a oh my god so this is like super hilarious and wonderful and so we can just control from here yeah that's great oh sweet yeah right yeah um look I think it's cool i think for 250 bucks as a toy for people who have phones that maybe don't have the best cameras right it's great i I would there are a lot of people I would say to get that instead of a point shoot right if I want to like a very dark concert like I don't mind taking that around as opposed to that plus a point shoot well against a good test case it's a good test case I mean I think here's here's how I've been thinking about it um my wife is like super an Instagram okay and she's always like I want to get a newer better camera she's iphone 5 and I can't think of but short of seven hundred dollars like what camera to get her that a has like better image quality and B won't require her to like take out a memory card and I put in the computer right and like she's not honest she's not going to send those things to Instagram then so like there's so I'm like I can get you whatever camera you want are you ever going to take the memory card out and put in your computer interest like no I want to right this is and I think that's why these are popular right they combine shooting editing sharing on one thing and the play memory is like does that go straight to Instagram where's go to the camera roll and then go there camera okay I mean it's great just a camera app like a fundamental into camera app that connects to these products and I think having like for sony to say we're really good at imaging which is what they're doing all over the place we're putting it directly into our phones or phones have great cameras and then we're going to let everybody else with camera with phones get a piece of our great camera and yes it's expensive but it's designed to be used with a phone and not some like we're not making some totally separate gadget I think that's strong especially for 250 and is this a that video as well see video I don't think you shoots video it does Jordan is the blimpie 30 p let's see I have it written up that's the one thing I actually haven't ride to do because I've just been so happy for us to put your ad button again that again they gave us to us just moments ago yeah this is this is kind of us figuring out on the fly that's why you're here mm-hmm you're a pedo movie sorry okay they can't hear drop the control room and John is telling your iphone app had a movie but um hey that's sure I don't know if if it supports it on every platform no um either way I I mean I think they're gonna sell a lot of these I real absolutely I think these are like tremendous like I can I hope to do I really liked the idea and they just have to get faster I think like this nonsense where mode oh yeah there we go movie exciting television it's a great television I'm taking a movie uh ok turd out of me oh it doesn't have so here's what I just discovered it'll let you shoot videos you won't let you transfer in real time you'd have a card in here ok so that's it needs a card got it but once your card I'll shouldn't be just fine I'm just saying I think they're gonna saw a lot of them I think people are gonna be intrigued by the product and the idea that a successful you have to market o'connell equip a better camera onto your phone and make it work mm-hmm that's that's right and I've loved the fact that like sony and samsung both came out that these are bizarre products like these are not things that you've seen before the watch kind of have but this brand new and also sounding i will say yes that's sony you know Sonny's strength in this world is hardware design yes not in there getting slowly better at software design their strength is always been hardware design if you look at this product I think you look at their phone they're starting to understand they need to do hardware design a better way and they're starting to make some really beautiful products yes so I wouldn't call this necessarily beautiful I mean in like a classic design sense it's but as a piece of like engineering it's really well done and it makes a lot of sense this is Sony's movie camera they're new if they literally call you in a music video recorder okay it's just a pocket cam it's there's nothing social gospel recording kid Scott to what they're calling high precision microphones okay and the only reason I wanted to show it off um because it's pretty I mean that's it it's it's super pretty it like you know it has this interface it's really gadgety there we have stopped in many ways covering gadgets right like we we cover phones then we cover the world of things around phones including the galaxy gear right which is right a phone accessory this is just a standalone gadget right and Sony's just making it happen and it looks beautiful it's expensive it's 299 I think the people who want this thing are gonna pay for it right so he's like we've been showing it off and it looks to me Kurt me wrong it looks like you would take this to a concert and get a good this is his on probably you can't cause there's no doubt my absolute 0 NE thinks you're gonna like you're actually gonna do this at a concert and like we're just recording this is your move for all sneak cams it's like this is my creep shot maybe this okay so I don't mind this I don't that this is not my move this is where hey guys guys it looks medical device oh it does yeah hello Ross bubble brass you can't love anymore I'm sorry you'll never love again oh I just think so nice i will say this i think i saw sonia soul presentation New York today the both both Samsung and Sony just so you know they had presentations in Berlin and they had simultaneous presentations in New York so david pearson i went to the sony one dan seifert once the samsung one so you know I step through Sony's whole thing today and I don't think i've ever seen sony as confident about what they're designing what they're making have been recently I think they're they're designing beautiful things though they are like David actually send their you know their new vios today which are like pretty there was Sony I think makes questionable material choices with with some of their computers but David said to me in the middle of savent like Sony's making beautiful things just because they can they're no longer feeling like they have to compete they like settled into what they're going to do and they've started to make beautiful products and in those areas and that's cool I'm into that and I think that mean this is I'm never gonna buy this I'm not gonna buy this so i have no need for this I don't mean again New Age of creep shots is a promise but I'm gonna use that it's this great video this is creepy these high precision creep creep audio but I just think there are very few companies that actually care about design for like gadgets and hardware the way its Tony does right and it's exciting to see them peddling into it no I don't you know well I'm not gonna buy their phone no cuz I had their son I i do i'm curious how well lakes for as he did like so does well yeah so nice in third place right over all right and especially in Europe than you really well um so I don't know I mean they're they're really you know psyched about how waterproof their things are ok it's actually weird to go to sunny event now that doesn't feature water and somewhere like everything's very aquatic was there water at today's event it now not the one in New York but there was they definitely had models in like a giant champagne glass in in Berlin yeah everything it sounds like very aquatic right now they're like look it's waterproof you know you don't believe us allow these beautiful people to splash themselves caught selling point they're gonna get the rights to bring a shark to an event Oh that'd be amazing and like just look at the shark will bite the phone uh I am the happy that a flexure device will weather bad conditions no pun intended but like I soapy water tank it looks if I'm so he's very I just think like what Sony's doing we've seen so many they're like reeks centric events i'm not surprised I'm actually a happy right there being kind of crazy well particularly the Yeti fuh there's like a lot of weirdness if they're just always traditionally it's it's look at sproul in ya know I went last year it was a it was a hunter esting but you know I just think like it's week it's weird that like well this is calendars that's just pretty don't worry about that but it's weird that I think the two most interesting products release today were smart phone accessories yeah but it's a lot it's a wash of the camera and then a camera what else release and we're talking about like a ubiquitous device now smartphones all look the same it's a rectangle with a screen that does internet that is huge that is HUGE like that's not interesting anymore and like what is interesting is like what we do in addition to that with just these complementary devices these watches these headsets these right but not things well night those aren't as interesting what I think this is very much response to do that most most funds have been cameras yeah and I think they're getting better and I think that you know we've watched the phone industry chase its sale for years being like a good camera will sell this phone yeah which is has yet to be true like a good camera helps but most people don't buy a great a phone because of the camera which is upsetting because I I want nothing more than an Android device with a really good camera yeah but so we we have one last night advice we even talked about really quickly it's bringing full circle is the SmartWatch to which I forgot is a second treasure smoosh they've been doing this for a while such a smart watches is super lame like I'm sorry like no no it's great they made it it's great that made it early didn't mention all the press conference even didn't even talk about yeah they like blasted through it it's great to watch right in its cool it's a bat it took a pebble with a better screen but it's ultra limited it's it doesn't do the things you expect it to do it does not like an app platform um it's just to watch like it's a watch that connects to your phone and has some has media controls I'm just surprised Sony's not really like jumping into this much harder I don't think they know they can't compete with this thing I'm sure they're gonna make one I'm sure they're gonna get out there but this product is not not it like you know the original sony smartwatch was so bad and I think we didn't review it no we saw it we looked at it we acknowledged it existed in it ya know and then you know the great this product is a little bit faster you know it's probably a little bit makes a little more sense the original sunny spot where should have a touch screen it was like this constant like but oh that's right so like my god right but it's not on for sony to go up against the gear with this i think no I agree okay so that's a we should wrap up I guess so that was the big announcer Aoife that obviously is still going on dress the week we will be there yeah but it's you know that's the big news we've had so far the biggest thing coming up next course is Apple which will be doing this again next week next week number 10 oh I'm so excited let me tell you about a rose gold iPhone what's that case we know it's actually more golden rose but I mean is this what you want this is this is this what you're after it's certainly better than this camera yeah I mean this is that this is hilarious I'm just go start throwing cameras on your way here we go we've there this is the this is the Megazord of camera phones now it's terrible it's a bullet Ron um yeah so more you for coverage later this week of course all the videos we've done in more verse calm next week is Apple will be doing this again way more hands-on Zahl that fun stuff yeah uh big other vegan news as I have a two mile zone 5 and 5s right now between there is it looks you would never never never know rumor has it 5s the cheaper iPhone perhaps check out these these chamfers probably not smart lunch yes four eva we got a new episode of detours today obviously version classes tomorrow which is even more laid-back and drunk than this if you can believe it new top shelf on monday of course Apple after that fun little Twitter facts at verge Forge you are reckless I am oh no Rosco yes all coverage more diverse calm thank you guys so much for joining us we'll be back very soon carolers