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hey and welcome to the verge guys for the week of March 10th 2014 I'm Josh Topolsky I'm TC Sonic and this is my third week in captivity please help and I'm Katie yeah Katie TC and Katie how much you favorite people to do the verge cast with I look like there's an oil oil spill on my head with this hair with my hair it's getting really long it is getting long here's the question how long will it get pigtails long I'm thinking mini pony yeah like Jared Leto yeah I want to have like a Jared Leto style hair situation this hair is very long I'll never be as beautiful as Jared Leto but I can have long hair like him I want to be like he looks like a beautiful horse running through the fields of like know like a tiny little pony like a pony who look like a beautiful yeah I think oh we're drinking yeah look look at him he's a beautiful man you don't have hair I need to get some highlights he has really nice bone structure looks like Gaius Baltar he really does let's have a little clink of the old cheers cheers Cheers Canada when you Cheers Charlie sorry sorry sorry our guests please forgive this intrusion on your personal space someone asked me to wear this hat today who's someone who's that someone actually live there live special lady maybe special dude special broham I mean I'm not judging I'm you know whatever is I'm cool with why it's borough man borough man he just tweeted ugh so glad you're a cowboy I'm an urban cowboy oh yeah my boots today trying to bring my bolo tie but yeah this is this is the verge cast man that's it what did you guys want to talk about today um well there's lots doc I think right yeah what are we talking about just before we started rolling I was talking about I was talking about how I wanted to murder TC and I was a saint he was like please kill me that's what he I mean he wasn't like and I don't think he was joking it was like I'm ready to be done with life I've had it why and then um and I was saying how amazing it would be if I killed him live for real on the verge cast like that like widen that be a podcast you'd never forget we had a spirit that would be really easy to convict him a giant spear unless it could be there was some that's like on The Good Wife you know you are 20 there would be a scene there's like he killed him on the vert on the verge cast and there's like there's video 20,000 people a million people watch it it's 20 thousand by the way don't worry it's not a million but it would be like the wedge cast or something something like that right and then we look live but then like The Good Wife be like wait a second that knife wasn't even his and like his hand it's like look it's been edited or something and then she'd make out with her with will hey brother alert okay maybe no they make out they do oh I haven't seen that again I'm happy I haven't seen it yet do everything spoiler and they show it on CBS which I thought was shot on you catch up so watching scandal full full frontal nudity a clip just a random clip from the trailer for The Good Wife John show the nudity it's such a good show though everywhere that's it's incredible it's unbelievable it's on CBS at Network known for several horrible horrible programs I hear it's better than house of cards I actually think look house of cards is very good I think some of it strays into a level of incredulous yeah you know nests yeah that is pretty I find it a little bit sort of meander e me Andrews I think well that's not my main issue when he kills the president but that's the thing about house of cards like that could happen on that show yeah and they'd be like yeah that's a totally reasonable plot point Frank Underwood puts ricin in his stevia multiple choice I hope by the way I hope you're not watching this Virge guys for any information about anything or any real conversation important opinions though so Katie we were talking about your haircut you said you get your hair cut by woman named Leticia yes and in Brooklyn Heights and and I was like oh you're wearing a Brooklyn you gotta like you're like showing off your Brooklyn street cred yep Annette's I went to one game a year and a half ago how was it it was okay yeah me too I'm a big fan I have their t-shirt you see jay-z no jay-z was not there he's it every it was for every game it was for Karl's birthday does he like the Nets no we just decided together that we were gonna like the Nets and so we both bought t-shirts well they're awesome they're they're all they give all black uniforms there in Brooklyn mm-hmm they just seem really cool they all listen to I'm trying to dear Huff or whatever I don't know they're all really into Interpol they don't know what a nerd my references are all I've been sleeping a lot what's a cool band now they're buddies like it's like indie but they're cool the National no doubt now the Nationals like really popular yeah they're too popular they actually play they played at the at the BART they did but I didn't go because I was like I'm not gonna see them at Berkeley I gotta say something about the National I really have a new fruit it's too big a venue Ivany I agreed not intimate enough for me because you're into that intimate indie vibe here's what I want to say about the National oh I didn't realize number one number one they're from Cincinnati I didn't know which is a tough place for anybody to be from and I think people in Cincinnati will back me up on this they've been at this for a long time ninety nine is when they formed Wow so just nothing but respect for the National also the lead singer if you saw him on Saturday Night Live they were just on with Lena Dunham he is a dead ringer for Randy Quaid in Independence a particular Randy Quaid it independence' here yes can we get it close up on him I mean he looks so much like Randy Quaid from Independence hey can we get it can we get a shot of red yes just get in there can we get a side-by-side of Randy Quaid from Independence Day plays I'm just gonna wait there like live I love that they're doing this live aliens so my favorite sounds like that's what he sounds like exactly I'm supposed to be the person keeping us on topic today and I'm just gonna let everyone know I'm not gonna do my steel what's the top first topic what's the topic we're supposed to talk about Austin Texas they're so South by Southwest is brand hellworld help brand out world where's my side-by-side this is nonsense what's worse watching this or listening to it being in it Wow Oh John you don't like I'm sorry jot the in in the control booth I was just taught being in that room is the worst you know what you don't okay I'm happy in there the perpetual bottles forcing I mean it is your job but you're getting paid right now to drink wine and just like talk about whatever you want yeah it's amazing you guys happens off camera so me just asked if I completely have we completely given up on the illusion of discussing tech on the first cast I think I think you want to talk about tech I think that I'm like not going to talk about a smartphone for don't talk to me about it like it's got to be a really interesting development in smartphones to talk about it yeah I don't know I'm just not interested in talking I mean I can certain technology like like I would talk about the well I mean it's not really a tech story but I would talk about what Casey wrote at South by South by Southwest Interactive which is supposed to be this place where like you know beautiful amazing new ideas about like the future of our world are born is actually has actually become this like really weird brand like you know it's like called it an orgy yeah and a rollicking corporate brand orgy yeah which i think is like totally valid is this guy Mark littell wants us to talk about tech doesn't use capitalization when spelling his name who is he Dana Boyd yeah here we go look at this no I'm telling you he looks like him you say it's the wrong angle yeah well disappoint we get him in the in a plane or something flying into the alien I got what you need john-boy I suppose you got the right image I got it he really does look like him anyhow so we're talking about Oh South by Southwest so yeah the thing is I mean it's not a surprise I think this has been this way for a long time but it's just say it's just like a it's just like it's my brand it's just a clusterfuck of brands and it's all really nasty lame it's like this guy's Shing me from AOL do you know this dude this digital prophet this guy's like my least rate and by the way I'm sure he's a really nice guy and I feel bad saying this because I'm sure he's a lovely man but he's like he calls himself a digital prophet or that's what AOL calls them or something can we get a picture of shinny up on the screen view screen here we just get shaky just do it Google search for Shing II it's really great if you could just get an image of him up I'm not gonna talk though there's an image of Shiggy on the screen I don't like to put people on blast but it kind of looks like what Sonic the Hedgehog would look like if he was a human being I imagine super excited about everything I feel like well he's profit is profit is profiting mm-hmm off of the digital fourth to be digital your son your signe speaking it's a better image of shinging this is too dark I need to see Shing Wow there he is can we get audio on this this is him profiting right to being a prophet profiteering look at those nails is he largest contributor to stress today is media overload we know that there's a challenge in terms of attention but if you do get it right mind share equals market share hmm and that's where consumers are going to pass your brand on nice oh it's Katharine Hepburn and this is it when you obey all the rules you miss all the fun I think what we need to do is get into a fast experimentation mode the platforms allow us to do that because you fundamentally have between 6 seconds and 13 hours to tell your brand story today you're not limited window to how you tell your brand story you have these different brand expressions today these different engines to tell your story yeah so I would love he is employed he's employed by AOL as far as I know and he's these amazing his title is digital prophet of course it is and he's talking about how you can get your brand just jam on your brand get it jammed up into supper this area here's the bill the most striking image actually Valleywag Sam Biddle I think posted this it was a it was like a picture of Chingy on Mashable's like wrecking ball there it is it's like it's like a sandwich of garbage it's a guard I'm sorry shakey I'm sorry I know you're a nice guy but you're a human being and I don't want to diss you like you're I'm sure your lovely man to hang out with but like your stuff that you say it sounds really horrible and you're I'm not gonna you know teaches own your look is your look like whatever but you know being called a digital prophet and saying like brand message or whatever it is the worst so I mean is that is that a text conversation I don't know hey wait a second buddy ever get you jr. over here changing my title to be Freddie not following Chingy anyhow so that may be a tech story I'm just I think you know that's the kind of texture I'm interested in is like how South by Southwest went from like a really cool interesting group of people telling each other very interesting stories and sharing knowledge to you know an Oreo 3d printed Oreo like marketing machine and and in Casey Newton one of our writers wrote a really cool story about by the way I'm not like bitter this sounds like bit I'm bitter or whatever like that's just no but that's just like one small part of like what's going on in the world that to me is and I think some of like you know why I don't want to talk about like the new smartphone or like you know I don't wanna talk about like ios8 leaks except I will say there's this like marker man from 95 Mac had these like nine had these uh ios8 leaks and they're like they're gonna they're gonna have like text edit or something or it's you know some really sad stuff they're good walking public transit or public transit directions and maps like it's just the saddest update you can think of too because all this stuff is incremental like and that's why like you don't hear us talking a lot on the verge cast anymore about these like weird little incremental like hey there's a new 6.5 inch smartphone like we're very you know I'm sure there's a set of people as interested we'll cover those when appropriate we review them when appropriate building on when it comes to the verge cast like you know I don't want to sit here and talk about a 6.5 inch screen on a smartphone unless there's like a really good reason to talk about it I kind of do looking you know what this is the this is the sleep sleepless mind of a baby daddy what is happening anyhow should we should wear appropriate my man we all though wait mark littell also points out that he came up with drum roll as a replacement for verge cast it's pretty good I thought you were you were not on our side but now you maybe are on our side yeah that's pretty awesome yeah anyhow but so what's in the news kee what do we have our own tech is dead Tech is is tech dad is tech dad there's no more technology it's all been done I don't think it's true there we go there we go yes that's more yes I still feel like you got the wrong image on the right now look he looks like Randy Quaid okay he looks good there okay Katie that's enough maybe you got back off that wine a little bit we don't want to we don't want anything embarrassing to happen here like the entire thing we wouldn't want that to happen okay so what's on our list yeah she's pretty early today hey you don't know cosmos cosmos Katie did an amazing interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson he came to our office our student and sat down with us and obviously a super fascinating guy brilliant dude we interviewed him I interview them a couple years ago on on the verge the first season upon the verge and he was so were you there yeah I wasn't yeah he was like so engrossing I don't know if he did this with you I don't because I don't know the whole thing but he would like and I was like we got to wrap up it's like 45 minutes outside we got to wrap up he's like no and we talked for like another 15 or 20 minutes cuz he just wanted to say more stuff he he's so smart and interesting that it just makes you feel like it made me feel like the dumbest guy in the world I didn't feel done okay okay as you're like talking to a peer yeah he's like super yo it's an awesome kind of like super in your face like he ya know it's like it's like you want him in your face yeah do some people you're like dude get out just stop yeah he's like he's like he's evangelical scientist he's extremely intelligent but I also find him extremely kind and thoughtful no he's yes yeah totally and like very easy to talk to you like I was nervous this was the first one-on-one like sit-down video interview I've ever done and I was very nervous but we made eye contact the whole time it was that's good we drank wine you did yeah yeah she's proves my theory that you have a drinking problem no I mean so I'll drink to that right and we want to do this every time sorry why why shouldn't we do it every time huh let's talk about more tech no but so Neal okay dr. Tyson of sudden Neal AB doctor is a huge wine buff which I found out when I interviewed him for The Verge 50 and he hated he hated your wine he did hate the wine um it was thinking about the kind of wine he's training cuz let me tell you I know right so he has the money to buy red wine he has a wine cellar at his house god I'm so envious and so I said to the the guys buying the wine I was like get something nice they got a $32 bottle of wine I'm like okay fair like that's a nice bottle of wine by my standards and he took one sip and was like yeah this could use another eight years another eight years he and he would know and he would know he tell you someone discussed it buy the wine he's dream but he drank a full glass he drank a full glass and I did not because I was trying to it was like 1:00 in the afternoon being unfashionable yeah that's all I was gonna in my week would be sure dude I mean he's gonna get in he gets into some sick limo and just goes to his next I saw him outside leaving and he got into it big like a not a Hummer but like a like it like a suburban yeah that new or nesco he's a total player I mean I mean that's I only like suburban is apparently like that's the car like I now get Ober once in a while I'll get an uber black car and a lot of times they send because they have like uber T uberx uberx a new burger opening I don't know it's got Bentley anyhow but but they send Suburbans all the time that's what you're like huge maybe he got an uber I don't know anyhow he was getting into a car yeah and then what he had an interview with People magazine probably very different interview I bet right but he talked a lot about wine that was probably most of the interview off-camera gave us lots of good wine advice mm-hmm but you know and also said some really interesting we should use this without advice today with this bottle of wine that we're drinking God knows my wines little but I can tell you this is crap I like it okay shout out to Justin yeah why Brad but borrow bad just said he was gonna fight somebody way out hamburgers is he trolling us on Twitter yes this is the worst charge cast African I just we started trying to say before we started we were having like a really great exciting conversation and then something happened during the intro that just threw us off it was TZ stupid hat yeah probably anyhow noticed all right honestly though spacetime Odyssey cosmic let's okay have you seen it you you know washed it right I've only only started watching I didn't fan I'm have a baby alright well I'm gonna talk to you understand - oh right yeah go ahead you guys talk what did you think what do I want I thought it was fantastic I thought it was really great to UM I was surprised at how closely he stuck with the Carl Sagan like I mean it like the cosmic calendar yeah the spaceship of the imagination it was all like I'm not gonna say ripped off he used the word borrowed sort of like as an homage I was a reboot like a very literal sense yeah he said it's a continuation it's like the second season of cosmos but it's thirty years later which I did not know was was what they were gonna do I think the most controversial part of that first episode though was the the religion yeah yes segment I mean he's clearly a hardcore atheist definitely he's very statements to that effect before and he's unabashed in his sort of you know science as religion viewpoint and I mean I don't think religion in the sense of like worship it but just you know I really appreciate the the fact they included that thread though because I think one and it was very clear at the end when he talked about Sagan and what Sagan's mission was and you know how this is a very practical thing it's not just like oh look at these cool NASA photos right like science is a real thing that it improves our lives after all yeah it's a real thing yeah it's real it's important not only to improve our lives but you know from a nationalistic standpoint right you know it and no that's that that's one of his huge trips and one of the things he talked about when he was on the verge and I know that he's he speaks about often is this concept of the love and appreciation and need for science as like an underlying driver of like who like in America who we are and what we do and what will build and how like we will you know it's not about just about like hey it's like cool to experiment and find something out it's like hey this stuff actually leads to legitimate new areas of exploration of business of it of intellect and it's not and that drives like a nation or a world you know forward yeah and I think that's true you know I think a science underlies its you know so many of the advances of civilization you know I think about like longevity and I mean health in general just full stop like anything related to health is like that is science in action that is you know um that is like really insane progress we've expanded expanded and extended like the human lifespan by 40 years or something in the last hundred years there's you know 250 years or whatever it is just because like we know we've learned things about how stuff works and like you know learning about how things work and taking that apart and utilizing it is uh there's you can't put a price on it you know it's the most valuable thing I'm really glad they you know opened with the cosmic calendar concept because it's like one of uh you know just putting a historical perspective in there is is so important you know just the idea that in 500 years we went from like inventing the first telescope to putting someone on the moon yeah absolutely no it's crazy I mean it's crazy the things that that it even in the last hundred the things that have occurred in terms of discovery are astounding well when also that when put in in perspective that that's what it was what like five minutes at the end of an hour right like all of meaningful modern history was like six seconds or something right in the bridal that's in the final hour right it's just it really is uh I mean I hope I don't know if it's happening or not I do hope things like this spark a new appreciation for I feel like we went through a period and I'll just say like the Bush era was the was the you know pinnacle of just utter ignorance and stupidity amongst like the populace of America where it was like just denial of facts you know and like are up from different mark government down to like just edit the average citizen we were like denying truth and facts in replacing it with I don't know what greed there you know like just forced ignorant if purposeful ignorance I don't really understand it because to me you know like it's the most disturbing thing in the world to imagine that like the president the United States lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to like spark a war which we know basically happened for real like definitely happened and you know I think that if I were a part of the the populace that voted for that guy and like was like creationism and all this other stuff that was happening during that time I would feel like this wine is definitely having an effect as I'm way down a rabbit hole like progress no it is real it is real and we're and we're still coming out of this like period of just like like sustained in unbelievable ignorance that like it's like either you're not paying attention or you don't care or like you're you're just doing it to be an asshole like you're being ignorant to be an asshole like I think that we're still coming out of that and I really hope that things like cosmos start to help to shake more people out of this weird trance they've been in about you know what I think the Internet is like one of those tools where it's so easy to convince yourself of that you're right and that the things you believe are true because there's a bunch of people on the internet who are like yeah you're right those things you believe are true and finding truth and finding and real answers to real problems is like the basis of science you know and I think it's so important that we actually put value in that like consider that to be a highly valued thing I mean I don't know I don't know what the solution to that problem is I mean a TV show like it's a great show I enjoyed it a lot from what I've read the ratings had not been what they were expected to be um which was disappointing but ya know you solved that problem right like NASA's budget this year is is flat again it's you know the same culture here a huge deal actually like a network like Fox like that's one of the things that I was most excited about right this was far and away the biggest launch of any television show in history yeah it's weird like Fox put so much myself on for American Idol and write Family Guy and also Fox News it's it's known for like the most destructive force in journalism since I don't know like Hitler controlled Fox News but it's all the same except for the daily daily it is an amazing beacon of light and otherwise gloomy yeah plays yeah but um you know rip-rip daily good year but ya know Fox definitely has to pay it back and that's what they're doing now I just think I just think it's so crazy to me that that uh we have this um almost like a real I don't know it I don't know if this isn't true in other countries I can't see I don't wanna speak for other countries I live in America and I've grew up in America but it does seem like and I don't know if this happened during the Reagan years and then the it sort of got solidified in the Bush years but this like appreciation for it's like a willful ignorance that is almost like it's not cool to be smart it's not cool to know things like it sucks like you're a terrible person if you read books and I think that that really has cemented itself in some part of the firmament some part of the the the layers of dirt that we stand on I don't know what I'm talking about right yeah you know I mean I'm probably not I mean you know knowledge is like scary you know like the thing about atheism and religion is that you know it's it's speaking as an atheist yes it's scary to go like oh yeah like there are no easy answers like there isn't a simple like God's got it why do you think I have a drinking problem no tell me about it like I sure you know as you recognize even the heaven that exists above the planet where there's lots of no voice breathable cream cheese and so soft ready to go at any bagel that you choose no matter what better for what type of bagel that was racist you know everything bagel onion bagel raisin bagel cream cheese on that no one's gonna stop you anyhow your bagel heaven was a timeout it's just scary you notice to go like hey I don't there's God doesn't have it cuz he doesn't exist cuz he has it made up idea because like you know anyhow I don't be I'm getting right now I'm eating so many death threats and hate mail I can't keep up with it but here's what I'll say about it kinase si I'm talking about atheism and I'm sure people be up in arms but the most controversial thing that I've ever said in public is about being a vegetarian that's like far and away like right now if I was like meat eaters are terrible way more controversial than like God is dead or whatever it is is this a real thing what is this this is bagel heaven that's heaven this is real that's how I learned was an ad is it a print ad what is that it's an ad it's insane well here's the thing like everybody that I'm probably within this group as an agnostic atheist but mmm I you know I had you know everything I'm writer than you are what was I saying believes in God like completely disavow science like that's a completely no I agree I agree any otic no totally true you know connections just that the Bible contradicts all scientific discovery so yeah but not everybody believes the Bible literally know what's then what is religion I'm sorry like I have to ask that question you don't believe that okay literally like what is the Bible's purpose but you like if you're is if you're usually accessing community involved in all kinds of but you know that things that are unrelated to the scientific method know I'm and there's like obviously sometimes good but like you know not to murder people without the Bible right no it's called morality yeah yeah like you don't need the Bible to tell you not to steal from people I do maybe you do oh boy I should not be going down this path where's Paul Miller when you needed this would be a great conversation for him is this the commercial did you have this in mind when you were talking about cream cheese heaven looks like Sandra Bernhard's simplest Derby cake this beautiful beefcake they're gonna be watching her brought to you by was just like Philadelphia Philadelphia Cream Cheese yeah it's creamy there's a light it's heavy what's Philadelphia Cream Cheese is tagline I need to know right now a little taste of heaven I'm pissing you off right now I'm sorry I was seeing tweets from people who are like I've I've listened I always want to say if I offended you at all that was not my intention if you are a Christian and you believe in science that's wonderful I think that's great I do think there's a I do think at some point you get to a what what is religion if you are a believer in science well you're not I mean like here's the thing there's a difference between what you need Christian who is you know totally comforting I agree I wish I wish I could be comforted by religion the way that other people are me too I mean I'm sure that like look when the when I feel like bad turbulence on a plane I get really religious really fast because like you're like well you never know I'm go the planes going down so I better just be like the only time I'm religious the only time I feel even the slightest hint of religion is the plane terrible turbulence of the plane it's like white-knuckle turbulence and I'm like I'm like all right God I know you don't exist but if you do I don't want to die you're like the worst kind of atheist I am terrible can't believe I admitted that you sand foxholes I don't that means I don't know what that means that means when you're on an airplane that's going down you're not an atheist because you lose grasping you like I'll take anything you know so be threw me a parachute I'd be like cool I'm out of here I mean I'd be I'd be calm and I'm cream cheese color because I wanted so badly they Diaz jumping out of the video jumping out of a plane is terrifying to me but I would happily take a parachute if I felt my plane was going down yeah think about that let that's due for a minute I try not to fly are you finishing oh it's the worst okay fine I hate it yeah all right that is it atheism or religion this ones this is the worst virtue I mean when I say it's more is this great we come back we're gonna come back this every week my tech what's going on with tech tech cool smart fun do you think God would use a usually he wouldnt have to worry about much at six point three screen yeah curved curved keep the glare of heaven out izzy cream cheese reflections well he's what he's checking his google gallup on the eighth day God created man wants us to move on what about we could do speaking of airplanes we could do the Malaysian tragedy a weight went down J Wayne does not like this conversation not surprised that's not the worst verge cats never happened I've been worse I think this is great I'm having a great time whatever doesn't matter to me so there's this airplane that was in the sky and then it didn't land I mean this story's fascinating there's some let's talk about this this is not is this actually is a bit of a tech story I mean what about ten I mean here's the thing about tech like let me just say this so I can just get it out in the open like the way the verge thinks about technology is that it is deeply connected intrinsically connected to so much of like what is going on in our world that like we're not this isn't about tech it's like hey there's this gadget over here it's like this stuff is all strewn in in together it's all connected and so this Malaysia Airlines this millage airline story is really interesting because there is a there is a a you know news aspect to it like oh my god this planes missing and did it go down what happened but the actual story is like how did it go missing where did it go what do we know about it how do we track you know it's really friendly it actually reminds me of the movie contact where Jodie Foster's falling you know and at the end through that balls boiler and they're like yes boiler for a movie from the 90s it's a great by the way 15 seconds yeah and then they were like oh wait the Inbal recorder had like 24 hours a time chili chili of scandal okay spoiler alert on scandals I've never seen a single episode and I know Carl's like you scandals the best it's Tara Carl talk about is that's his voice is it terrible it looks terrible it's amazing it looks like oh did you like she's good wife like you'll love yeah oh really yeah alright I'll watch it seriously you think it's bad I think it's terrible shut up sorry I just caught this headline on our site Disney is releasing the EDM album with remixes from Avicii in caps oh yeah sorry who Disney Disney what the Walt Disney Company Disney Walt Disney Corporation I know if you like the Little Mermaid you'll like Skrillex Wow Wow hey what's the name of the crowd of the Little Mermaid Sebastian hey Sebastian sleek the Sebastian right just like snippy snip remix it's examples of Sebastian well I guess Disney did Tron well they didn't a she funded and release drawn yeah yeah yeah this is the come on let's talk about something Malaysia Airlines yeah so where the fuck's that plane where where is the plane so we're talking to Chris Ziegler about this he's actually Chris's are like an airplane buff yes he's an airplane nerd like he knows stuff about airplanes that you that you can't even begin to imagine so now he's actually working on something right now like a story about uh something about what's there's a new discovery that that this there are electronics trans that were transmitting on this plane or from this plane for five hours after it kind of dropped off of radar interesting fact like he drops off a radar 100 miles outside of Malaysia right I had no idea that when they're when they're over the ocean they're flying blind we're just like terrified hey hey just check it out I mean I assume that they're they can see other planes but in terms of never leaving the continent yeah you don't want to do that you don't wanna same but um but so so the story's got a little bit more interesting because there's this now they're saying like hey the plane it was like hey the plane went into the ocean it dropped from radar and it probably crashed and they just can't find it right now they're saying well there's five hours of transmitting data past the point where it dropped off a radar and what Chris was saying to me which I find fascinating is that it might have landed somewhere they're like what are you doing what's happening can you stop that we're on we're on now we're on a national international broadcast right now I'm Metis whispering trash talk you trash talking this is outrageous Katie what did you say he's threatening are you threatening her the worst she threatened her be honest absolutely not the same accusation she levelled last she's it's a black listen people's lives are at stake here they're not at stake I'm pretty sure like all right we don't know what I was saying is Christmas like we don't know what happened this plane it's possible could have landed somewhere yeah that's all ages is unone know that's a possibility in that creepy no no or somewhere else if they manage them you know might not be identified yet I mean we don't know it could yeah it's on the Lost Island because that doesn't exist wow this is really intense you know why because it was from a TV show yeah I mean I didn't watch a BC it was interrupted by commercial here's a golden so like this whole thing from the stolen passports go on to now like wasn't anyone else just like how the hell yeah finally that happens all the time though people edit yourself on it hell how the heck I'm Katie that's great okay how yeah keep your language nice and clean on this verge cast we want you to say anything that was off-color uh go on I was just like really taken aback by the fact that you can steal a passport and then fly take an international flight somewhere well I mean and I'm not that simple but like apparently it happens all the time no I don't know you have to you have to so I'm just sorry somebody's tweeted some he was standing behind you standing behind me you just that was a made you look moment no something's like who's the person here's they say I just got trolled why is that same guy been standing behind the glass near Josh the entire podcast tired of seeing his ass literally oh it's Evan he's got a nice ass though yeah it's pretty good that's technically a violation of you said you're gonna murder me earlier we have this this ass comment on record for HR now Wow you're gonna you just self doxed yourself believe me there's plenty of pleasures passing plenty bad stuff on record for me okay who is doing this this woman Trisha neter is doing drawings of people members of the verge have you seen these oh this is creepiest thing I've ever said she just did one can we get this up kids let me just look at who just tweeted at me in this image first up it's a great drawing it's disturbing it's upsetting but I like it there it is Queen zoom in on that is that you I know you tell me yeah that's definite is it mirrors it randy quaid i think that's you or the lead singer of the national yeah now we got to do this went very well then dieter oh it's on the top what did you two do to the top here would you just do a job no you drop it's coming up it's coming up okay great dieter bone bone zone he was almost on this but what is this erielle is hold on do I follow her by the way I need to I didn't I can't believe I wasn't so erielle our new writer just dissed me on Twitter she did Josh is lack of cream cheese add knowledge makes me wonder if the quote cream cheese taught me about heaven Canadian specifically I like ya cream cheese heaven it sounds you know I didn't run this ad in America you know we know what real heavens like we don't call you ride on a gold she ride up a gold bus do you rember this article it was written in like the Atlanta Journal hey guys hey you know I saw you saw that I did you got another setting kitty don't don't don't do an f-bomb to him just quietly on the verge cast that's not right who taught you it's a Canadian manners I guess is what we're seeing here I don't think she's a real comedian really please elaborate on that say sorry enough I say sorry constantly why don't you say it like sorry you say the f-bomb sorry that's our Joshi talks a lot yeah well I'm sorry you know what I'm the host and I mean we're traditionally I am the host of The Verge cast well you're very talkative I am talkative it's probably because I'm Jewish well I was raised Jewish well socially socially culturally Jewish religiously a theist hmm which means I'm just very nervous mm-hmm right yeah so apologies to your dad if you're watching my Katie's dad yes I'll let Katie talk more your daughters normally very nice Katie why do you run why don't you run the rest of this thing okay great whoo thank God take a break Phenom I right cheers Cheers huh bilateral Cheers do we want to talk about gas leaks yes oh my god yeah I'm terrified I'm super-sized listening to NPR today and and ER it's funny um WNYC which is the NPR of course I was listening to NPR right so it's just stereotype but cliche Jewish New York elicits that be are like okay they were like they had a they had a show on a couple days ago is about the the failing infrastructure of New York right and today they're like yeah this could be evidence of the failing infrastructure of New York I live in a house that was built in 1860 you do yeah yeah for real it's SuperDuper old I think now it's just like everyday like my family's going to blow up he tene 60 yeah that's like civil warrior yeah it's really old are you two like are you kidding me that's when it was built we have like records yeah it's a it's actually what's interesting about my house is that Thomas Ricker who lives in Amsterdam has a very similar tiny house I have a very tiny house and Thomas Ricker's that's so upsetting can we get that on screen plays the dieter image totally unrelated to my house and two explosions please get the dieter graphic on the screen immediately I won't say another word until it happens there we go that by the way that was the longest moment of silence ever in the history of The Verge cast in the history of Josh in the history actually yeah my uncle used to pay me money to be quietly how long he'd be quiet I'll give you a dollar if you mean quiet I was a terrible kid terrible adult what are you gonna do anyhow so yes so there was this terrible huge explosion in Harlem East Harlem apparently a gas leak leveled to building seven people are dead I mean just look at this I mean just it is breathtaking that that that something like this could happen it's not it wasn't new it didn't happen on purpose it wasn't planned there were no explosives in this building as far as we know at this point and I think probably for real Ariel our new writer who did a great piece about how this happens and why this happens which is really interesting but it just made me feel just utter and constant fear now about yeah my house exploded yeah it's especially insane is that apparently they have been like reporting the smell of gas or a gas leak for like two weeks well but before this happened so what I read which was very very sad was a woman talking to the New York Times and her husband was unaccounted for and they lived in one of these buildings so super sad but she said to them something along the lines of we thought we smelled gas before we went to bed then it went away so we just went to bed and then the next morning there was this explosion and I think in terms of aerials piece what was most disturbing to me was I think it was something like 35 or 38 percent of gas mains in Manhattan are made of chrome what is the make up some some whatever the material is that makes them more vulnerable to these cracks and predate 1960 in other words they're outdated and they are vulnerable to cracks that's terrifying no it's it's that's terrifying no I mean the the on NPR they were saying that the average age of the mains in New York is 56 years Oh old yeah just really old and they're made of you know this what is it cast iron cast iron and that's what it it's not Chrome no not chrome I'm thinking about problems what you put on your wheels from asthma quit now is a browser yeah it's an internet that's weird that my reference point was about wheels yeah and your suspicion of touch you tak-tek with Tech Talk Tech Talk right there but uh so anyhow it's just terrifying since my house is a super duper old I'm just imagining everything in it is ready to explode at any given moment and you know today we had our heat on and it's making some weird screeching noise it's hot water heat it's not gas or anything but it's making some weird high-pitched screeching noise it's like goes that here we go yeah we're gonna blow up so it's a terrible it's a terrible tragedy and a shocking story and also like I think not to get all political on you yet again but is a demonstration of the need for us to be concerned about the infrastructure in America not just you know this is a this is a privately owned company that is responsible for these gas lines but you know they're responsible to the citizens of this city it's a public utility there's a public utility but I mean my Kannada stand has the privilege of me it's National Grid National Grid I think no it's carnage it's kinda doesn't do gas gonna do do they they're my guess they do gas mmm-hmm I thought they only did electricity very confused at any rate also I've been drinking at any rate this wine is really effective and I have to say it's Justin hi and alcohol content I don't think so I just didn't have messing me up so the thing is a little high the point is it's like infrastructures a real issue I mean there have been front line act I think actually did a great piece on the infrastructure if I'm not mistaken a couple years ago I could be totally making that up but there's definitely you know our roadways bridges brand of course it's like we're literally America is like falling apart and think about how much money the federal government spent on public projects that may have you seen year's national park building international look at look at there's a great chart of the of the spending our budget in the u.s. look at the look at the budget for defense spending versus the kind of thing the spending we're doing on things like infrastructure it's depressing that's insane he didn't say yeah and like look so far you know I don't know I'm not gonna get into terrorism and stuff but we've had you know 9/11 is awful but uh it's just such an but this is off but this is you know it's this is awful - in like a hundred of these is even worse and like if the infrastructure doesn't get if we don't care about it we don't think about it like a hundred of these is what seems but it should be such an obvious and like uncontroversial point that like this this public stuff that we spend money on as a society enables us to do things privately right the interstate highway system right now that wasn't a button that wasn't like you know a company like Google or Microsoft saying oh we need to build some roads it was all of us together I mean this gets to the you know this is kind of leads back to net neutrality and talking about like what we value here and how we manage it I mean I think net neutrality is a great that's the Internet is a great example of the next infrastructure crisis in America where it's where it's um massively needed utility for all citizens of this country and of all countries we have the ability and the opportunity to make it a a widespread easily accessible open thing and the direction we're headed is you know the the FCC in cahoots with you know private companies is managing it into a private expensive service which will be controlled by people who have interests outside of what citizens the citizens of this country need they're controlled by by monetary interests and in the interest of making money and getting paid for everything and so it's like it's like one of these things it's like we can't keep up the infrastructure we have that is shared and we can't build new infrastructure where we need it things like an open and free internet like what is what is the future of America if we don't do so no one gives a about science right this is why this is why the space program is being taken up by Elon Musk right and Jeff Bezos because NASA gets 17 billion dollars a year I'm not saying they're not profit I'm not saying they don't want profits from that stuff but they're gonna at least that will drive them to do something yeah you know in America we can't even see I mean the government can't even see the reason why we would want to do work on a space program you know like they can't see the value in it well it's a long-term thing and yet profit-seeking companies are absolutely essential for innovation and you know driving the economy everything else but they're also beholden to shareholders in a way that makes them focus on quarterly results right you know you can't you know we have big problems that require really long-term and most and most companies aren't Apple in the sense that you know Verizon is on Apple Verizon is happy to be relatively complacent with what they have you know if they weren't the widespread FiOS would be happening right now and it's not you know Comcast and Time Warner this like you know disgusting merger that's probably going to happen where it's gonna create this like insane conglomerate you know it it's their their their motivation for innovation doesn't exist and it's like it sounds like at a very basic level I go that's some nerdy like what does that matter like I need cable that's not important but we don't matter when like you can't get the things you need on the internet because they have decided that it's more profitable to charge you for them and so it's like it's really a disturbing situation we have in this country supposed to do about it a violent revolution I said this a couple purch Cass ago the only answer ultimately is a violent overthrow of a corrupt government and I you know actually like that's up joking around a little bit but also somewhat like look at other countries like what's happening is violent overthrow of a corrupt government and our government is like we have a great way of like demonstrating that we're not we like to act like we're not corrupt and it seems like we're not corrupt with like a tremendously corrupt diseased government in America which is poisoned by private interests and people who want to hoard money and like it damages the populace of this country in ways that like we don't even we can't even begin to understand and yet this this wine yeah and yet Cheers and yet like we're not there is an Occupy Wall Street was the closest thing we had to violent revolution it was it was a whiff of it was a baby's you know and by the way as a new father I'm aware of what babies can do not very much it was like a babies version of like a real you know revolutionary sort of movement and I think that I'm not saying we need to overthrow the government I don't know be the word I'm not let me to say this clearly do not overthrow the government that would be a bad idea but I do think we need a stronger reaction to this stuff like you guys like you know net neutrality sucks like will black out our website for a day or something like that like that can work in small doses you can overthrow the government every two and four years no but yeah but but you're trading one you're trading like one level for another exactly I don't feel like I'm overthrowing the government when I vote every four years but I think I think it requires a a fear and and knowledge and understanding of what is going on at a level that will make you do something far more meaningful and that's like that's not like that's a should vote for Rand Paul no don't you think people getting involved I think people getting I think people getting legitimately involved in what is going on in their local governments and and trying to find ways to affect real change by displacing by removing people who are cancerous is like a serious is a serious component of it I'm really on a roll here my god I'll probably get shot leaving the building don't say by me oh my god see see just behind me just just clips me and that's it um any I just think you know look we have uh I mean we have wouldn't what I don't know what do you do we're not gonna have a revolution in America until it gets really bad but I will say this we have a growing disparity between the haves and have-nots everybody knows that and at some point that begins to like really rot and when it rots like you know I don't know you don't know I mean she gets gets bad gets funky I am so glad to be a Canadian citizen oh you think you can run up to Canada nuclear conflagration that wave of nuclear of nuclear waste will just flow right up to Canada alright are you talking about judgement day is what I'm talking about universal health care you're basically that universal most Canadians live within a hundred miles of it how's that universal health care can I help you when a wave of nuclear waste from art what nuclear wait Judgment Day have you never seen terminator Terminator 2 or Terminator 3 no what about Terminator 4 no you've never seen any of the Terminator movies No are you kidding me there's no more please leave now just get out of here No hope you never see The Terminator movie I don't know I watched a lot of like Melrose Place I told her sisters like you know we watch like Beverly Hills yeah I admit this is the worst verge cast ever it's great you do really I've been saying about violent revolution and every throw I'm gonna be arrested as soon as I leave that's your problem man people want people have been tweeting me they wanted me to talk about vox.com the news through your news vertical that is being launched by Vox media our parent company I love to talk about that if we're allowed I mean we could talk about it all I can say is all I can say is it's an exciting and interesting new venture for our company it is going to be very different than what we do very different then here's a little bit of their they have any video a wonderful video actually Ezra Klein may be a bigger nerd than anybody at the verge as recline as it is a big big nerd and I really like him I have to say super nice dude he's not only super nice but he's super smart and like everybody who's everybody who's did you say he's not you're not super nice I said he's not only super nice but he's super smart thank you he's got super nice but he is super smart yeah he is he's nice and smart but all but that whole team they're very smart people that have very good ideas about how to cover a sort of a broader more general news scope in a new way and and it'll be different than the verge like if you read the verge you'll find it's a very different publication but I'm excited about it I can't we're very incredible people I can't reveal much because I know a lot I'm not gonna tell you guys what's going on but what I will say is that the the the thinking that's going into what they're doing and the stuff that our product his building with them is really exciting and I'm very excited about it what's going on with you guys are you threatening each other again are you and and I have to say Oh sometimes we think about good Oh J Wayne mayor wants us I know how do you pass your last name Mar Mar bill Mahr like Bill Maher so Ariel's Ariel is it finally got my back here she's seen the Terminator what a drainer how the hell have you not seen terminus I haven't seen a lot of things I can terminator either oh shut up shut seriously shut up are you serious terminator I've seen it's not the one with Christian Bale dude please get out right now what you need to leave and the blade run off stairs I've seen blade run yeah you're just put up no it's not a generational thing it's it really is Gone with the Wind a generational thing he's Lawrence of Arabia is is is Ben Hur is Citizen Kane is uh do you just sit at home and watch Turner Classic Movies with penny on TCM not a stop that guys Charlie's they control booth going crazy what's going on with those guys they look to be under control when do we start this Oh seems like we should be ending pretty soon can we not should we talk about Need for Speed to be not broadcast is there a way the begin just this will be the live one you will ever see this is that are you serious John you're not serious about what about what he just said to me so you're just kidding is what you're saying what you just said to me okay nothing is about it's about a conversation John and I had earlier yeah okay yeah you don't have any verse bit of tension I have nothing to say about I didn't see the movie first I first did not like it let's talk about Aaron Paul okay let's talk about Aaron Paul yeah he's just I want to hear what kto say about Aaron Paul very good-looking human you have a thing for like boy Carl is watching this are st. Carl Carl looks a lot like Aaron Paul I disagree strongly disagree well you're wrong Aaron Paul has like a boyish kind of like Saudis Grande no Aaron yes no he's not yeah Aaron Paul has blonde hair she's like brown he's a dirty blonde it's like Brian he's got a blonde face and you know it a blonde you know you know you were saying Brian bond saw you were really into and I think he's got kind of this blondish boyish thing going on I'm worried about you and also Carl Carl does not look anything like Aaron hmm you need glasses they're not working yes there are new ones that function I talked to my sisters about this we all agree well your sisters just humoring you I think of nothing on No no way do they look alike for the facial hair TC do you please back me up on this I'm not gonna get involved oh really now you're not gonna get involved here's your chance looks nothing like it that's right thank you I look more like Aaron Paul than Carl does no you do no I don't look anything like it that's my point I don't look anything like him that's what I'm saying I look like Zach Galifianakis so anyway this was he tell us about it a little bit there were there was Aaron Paul Jesus and it was basically Jesse Pinkman driving cars I don't understand this is not part of the Fast & Furious franchise is it it's just like no say it was a video game as a video game that EA made and like it was unbelievable we got to the theater and the EA logo splashed up on the screen as if you were playing a video game and everybody just started cracking away what happened you're in the theater you know how like it shows all the studios no science bitch that's it you know that was the week of March 10th from her family to yours don't use natural gas no you're not ending this you don't get to say when it ends you see you usually got a cowboy hat on you're in control and you're not in control do you feel in control no you're not that's the verge Castro this week mm-hmm let me thank Katie hit TC for 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