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hello and welcome to our second episode of top shelf our show about all the gadgets and weird things and robots and spiders that we found here at CES show floors open so we have all kinds of stuff to talk about I'm here with my co-host Nilay Patel hello this this shows on about conspiracy theories it's also mostly about conspiracy theories I feel like I have really wild hair today so my hobo effect is like do you have like extra conspiracies now yes you got some sleep last night DOS I did I slept on you had more time to think about conspiracy drank beer until I passed down yes I wander the streets of Vegas that's good then I fell asleep on the ground I mean it's like that's Vegas that's oh you're supposed to do Vegas that's good yeah my cab drivers I get in and they're like where you gonna end up tonight that's not always their first question really that's a weird I'm gonna be in bed cuz I have to work tomorrow I Drive this Ferrari time to sleep right sorry so we have all kinds of crazy stuff today so you know floors open there are what is it a hundred and fifty thousand people here now yeah a hundred fifty six thousand I think is the number three and a half million square feet is just absurd I'm trying as hard as I can million of those square feet are the Sony and Samsung booths that might actually be true like I don't believe they have like competing armies yeah yeah that's actually more like competing video demonstrations of nothing competing 4k Taylor Swift okay so a bunch big stories saying yeah including more gaming stuff I feel like this isn't supposed to be me showing out if you're kind of a gaming show yeah so there's this thing called the razor edge we saw it last year we saw last year called the razor project Fiona but now it is back again it's the edge it's an actual it's kind of a tablet it's kind of also it isn't it's a really thick giant you saw the video there it's a really thick giant Windows 8 tablet but that's not primarily how they want you to use it right they want you to dock it into this place they should move looking thing it's this double this double move looking thing and there's a keyboard dock as well in this hole and it's so it's games right it's games and Windows and yeah it's running Ivy Bridge it's x86 it's full Windows 8 you can run all your games like this with these move controllers but it's incredibly expensive yeah so it's it's it's a thousand dollars just for the thing itself and then there's a the gamepad dock which is the thing with the two controllers on the side is 250 more dollars and then there's a docking station which is 100 more dollars so this thing is like it's it's no joke so $1,500 later you have not quite a gaming PC basically but you do have the respect and admiration of your friends because you are insane do you do you understand suppose you put especially after seeing like the Nvidia yeah project shield which seems really kind of tight and put together and like well thought-out this just doesn't well the Razer comes out every every year TS Razer has something black curse right cuz they're like a peripheral maker right that's what they primarily do they're like regular nutso Mouse this keyboard lights up right and they're for gamers that's not Razer to German knife on the buttons instead of like letters right and I think they want they want the respect right so they come out with stuff and so it eventually comes out right I mean they put out a laptop right with like a lot of keys yeah the the razor blade which is the same kind of thing it's this incredibly high-end product that most people can't afford and most people never even eating this we're like someone's like damnit guys we can't always make puns with our product names I hope not that it genuinely oh because they're running at the razor's edge is like that's enough oh the rusty razor there it is that's the one that's gonna be their smartphones next to the gaming smartphone for us Tyrion with the huge guy yeah I mean it's yeah it's fine I mean look they it is gaming show there's stuff coming out yeah there's a lot of interesting tablets man there are so it one in particular well not really this isn't interesting as much as it's crazy so Panasonic yeah came out this morning they had the opening keynote this morning on a show floor and use it to release a 20 inch 4k tablet which kind of sounds crazier than it actually is the resolution is 38 40 by 25 60 yeah which ends up being lower pixel density than save the iPad right but it's still 20 inches it's right okay right well so it's a but I feel that I just sounds awesome but just wow your vertical Heights it pixel density mechanics how is your pixel density tight is it tight I'm glad I'm sorry so everyone watching this the one thing I do think is cool is that they're kind of billing this for artists and photographers and it has a stylus input which I actually kind of makes a ton of sense it's window it's full one is a there's an arm or x86 I believe it's x86 so it's like a it's basically she's a really nice PC that you can take at work and I think there is a market for like Pro photographers we're all using iPads now they have insane bonkers workflows yeah somebody what a photographer actually sent me a like a flowchart of how they get pictures from like their mark to on an iPad it has a real yeah so like there's a big market for this at time I will say this 4k is a marketing term at the CES getting tossed around far too much and like a 4k tablet is really just like you can go buy a dumb monitor that has effective 4k resolution shit right now and it's like $500 check it's just that's like the term everybody wants to you got it yeah and speaking of 4k Panasonic also had a 4k OLED TV which was basically the same thing as Sony released last night yeah and it's just this like hilarious back and forth well yeah but Sony Panasonic I mean they all have the same panel suppliers so it's like the panel suppliers have done something and all the big companies have productized it in some way yeah but like all the TVs are truly it's like so if you went to a car show and everyone was like showing off convertible that could maybe fly and like they all have the same bad idea the same time right it's coming it's just never gonna happen yeah same day and you probably can't afford of anyone right yeah so we're going story the thing I actually think is a lot cooler is Intel perceptual computing it's called it's basically connect yeah and we're seeing a ton of these demos here where there's you know you're using your hands and you're doing all kinds of different motions as opposed to using just attract that and a keyboard and we've seen like I literally have a video this is Sean Hollister I think but I have a video of me doing exactly the same thing with leap motion and there's a company here called point grab and so this is like this is a thing actually dignity I'm sorry it's my fault but this is a thing and I feel like especially if Intel is getting on board like Intel can just brute force this kind of technology into every winner they could if you make you put it in a platform I mean that's and this is gonna sound like a really weird compares to make but that's what they did with Wi-Fi right they said Wi-Fi as part of Centrino and then the next year all the laptops had Wi-Fi right and it was they was driven by the platform this little creative do the key that they're making is like whatever they made it connect you're not gonna put on your laptop like this but the next generation laptops I will say that Intel is here trying desperately to prove that they're relevant yeah I mean I think until like they they've lost mobile I think we can fairly safely say that they're they kind of have an insurmountable deficit now I mean they're gonna in mobile like there are no Qualcomm party exactly that exactly but no I think and so they have to so it seems like if they're if they're gonna you know double down on PCs so to speak right they they have to go kind of way ahead of the game and try to it's exactly you're saying like they have to say we're innovative we're still doing cool stuff we still matter and I don't know if this is how you get there I don't think it is what I'm waving the laptop is the right way to go but I will say that there is an insane portion of it we talked about a little bit yesterday there's an insane push of this whole show to put sensors on everything and connect the sensors to some sort of centralized computing device and that's this it's just they're just it's just Wilder sensors it's instead of knowing how far you've walked the computer will like look at your face and know how much you've cried I have to say that the terror is becoming the tech is becoming amazing like you can tell the difference and they're crying a lot this year I'm worried about you tears and pixel density like a Nilay Patel story but the tag is getting a lot better I have to say it's like you can tell the difference between your fingers and if you have something in your fingers it can tell that that's there and then your fingers and it's really it's awesome like I would I have no particular practical interesting but it's my computer knows what's in my fingers exactly fair so the the other thing which happened just a few minutes ago which I actually think it's hysterical as back to TVs which you know it's a TV show that's where it's see yes so Samsung and LG within like two hours of each other yeah both announced the world's first curved OLED TV they both use the phrase world's first yeah it was a curved it's the exactly we're describing like they all have the same panels it's the same you know they had the same thing and clearly their development process was absolutely identical but they both release the same thing and it sounds it sounds like it's wild I haven't seen either one in person yet but our folks who have say it's gorgeous and like actually seems well all the TVs are always gorgeous right and putting them in wacky shapes is like actually one of the promises of the technology they just nobody can make up well so why here's why why do I want a curved TV convince me you seem like you're kind of into the idea so you can stand closer to it in it so really view also the idea is that I can like turn around and get four inches away from my my TV and still see it that's cool I'm excited they might as well be in this this stuff is like they might as well make a triangle let's just go for it dude just come on make a triangle tea facility like it 4k has a Content problem stuff that takes advantage of being curved is like the worst content problem yeah okay yeah but it's giving you a hug well so these are they're just showing off their let's show off I mean and they won't this sort of the big tech comes to phones they'll make Samsung has always been doing curves right displays for phones I think that makes more sense there but I agree I mean it's Samsung's whole thing it seems like both of the companies are like what crazy tech demo can we show off that'll never be a protege that'll never be a real product but look at what we can do yeah and I was even have to photo CES I guess yes but so it's like 80% of the fun of seeing 80% yeah I think I've seen a price and release date for like one thing it's a guess so far even I was Senate right man yeah yeah yeah so well speaking of your content problem thing Sony should talk about Sony happened last night we should so first of all you were at Sony you went how was the event I was really good you know you know Howard Stringer is like a bombastic presenter so he gave the Sony chance for a long time yeah and he just doesn't he never cared about anything was trying to represent her cause a little more direct he's great he's just not it's not the spectacle of the stringer it's not we're gonna have Will Smith dry in a car on a stage which actually happen there's Taylor Swift did not play you would she were kind of sad about I was sad about but you know I think that's actually not necessarily cause is very open with I've been CEO for nine months I need to revitalize my deal of Sony and they were they very much kept on pushing Sony's the only brand you have an emotional reaction to which is like maybe I think that's true from like people my age right I don't know that's true for younger people I don't think they might have a Playstation up they probably have an Xbox so they have a lot of work to do is a little bit less respectable but the products are actually interesting so that's the Xperia Z so yeah so this is kind of the flagship new product from Sony five inches 1080p which seems to be like the new sort of standard for a flagship phone yeah and I really like it it's a beautiful fun I will say it's hilarious it has a glass back it's like the entire industry in the lesson from apples like that you don't will shatter immediately but you know it's very nice it's a really tight package I actually like the software it's not stock obviously right but Sony's always assured as long as when it comes to this lock screen is sweet when it comes to interest rate is always done a good job it's this weird kind of it's not broke in effect it like shatters the screen and I really like it service but it's awesome yes it's cool it's just neat and yeah it's good to see something different happening in logic yeah well so and I mean so there's all kinds of cool stuff it's got a 13 megapixel camera and Android 4.1 but you wanted to do this I do I'm happy about this and you can do that which is fun I mean that's awesome yeah it's it's silly I don't know why you need to do that well so I have to say like this morning so I was I was brushing my teeth this morning this actually happened I was brushing my teeth and like was running water over my toothbrush and like a little tiny bit splashed off and got onto the screen of my phone which is sitting assisting and I had like a 15 minute long panic attack that my phone was broken forever you're weird it's just it's what I it's what I'm used to with all of my electronics that like if anything ever gets wet it's probably broken forever and I'm screwed yeah but so I think I mean I just like the idea and it doesn't seem to have like maybe let me say one worse yes it does in one specific stupid way the headphone jack is under a flap on this phone so to get put headphones into it you got to open this dinky little door that seals the headphone jack away from water and that is at what cost man at what price must we pay so you can brush your teeth over a phone yep come on so so Sony had this and another phone and a bunch of other stuff but one of the as with everybody the big thing they talked about was 4k and so Josh Topolsky art editor chief we may have heard of sat down with Kaz Hirai after the event and had a bunch of questions for him about 4k specifically Oh so obviously the TV's are gonna be available the big question that everybody has the stuff we see our readers talking about the debate we have amongst our writers is you got the TV how do you get the content right and you talked yesterday about distribution you're going to be the first distributor of 4k content where how do you how do I get it where is it coming from is it on a disk is it am i downloading it how if I'm a consumer and I get my TV in the spring when where and how do I get native 4k content onto the ball great questions and you know we're going to be announcing details I know as we get into the spring timeframe right and really make some announcements to make sure that you know the customers when they're buying their 4k televisions from Sony they understand you know how they're going to get the access to write the variety of content right but right now you've got an 84-inch we have an 8:40 and there's a sort of a server set up yes where you can essentially you're getting it's a hard drive it's very loaded caught for a person that's not your plan for the future system or distribution plan that we have right strategy so obviously it's not just limited to X number of movies or other titles right may be pre-loaded right but in fact making sure that you know consumers can access new and additional content as they become available right but you don't see that as physical medium I mean I don't it's not going to be native 4k discs there's not going to be a standard that it ultimately I think that you know as the industry evolves 4k the industry may decide that a disc format might be something that the consumers are looking for but at this point before we get in - is that something that is that we were looking for distribution you are you looking at that as a real possibility that you think they'll be a standard I think the industry needs to make sure that we come up with certain standards because again you know we want to make sure that it's not just movie content or the programming content but as we announced yesterday you know we want to make sure that we are also providing customers with the ability to go out with their 4k camcorders right for example and that's not that has to be based on a platform so that you know the the material that you take on your camcorder is playable not just on Sony right 4k monitors but everybody else on your cousins - it's gonna work yes that's interoperability that we write guaranteed so Sony's talked a lot about 4k and they have this kind of unique story for what they can offer but you've talked to cats right - yeah and you got kind of a different answer for what they're doing with 4k well the vibe I get is that so I talk to calves right after Kino and we do you the question it they announced a world's first 4k digital distribution service right and which actually did seem to be true unlike all the other worlds what they just don't know what it looks like right and so it's like how are you gonna do it is like we're gonna figure it out and you know right now there's shipping people like a PC like he said to Josh and then to Josh she's saying we're not ruling out anything maybe we'll have discs you know maybe you'll download stuff overnight so Sony has the content they have the products right and they are desperately riffing on ways to connect the two right and the thing and Paul wrote a great piece that the the thing is that it can't just be Sony building a connection between content and devices it's got to be the entire industry coming up with a set of standards because I think the consumer expectation is that you can buy it to achieve a TV and a ps4 and watch 4k stuff well the expectation is that it's gonna be what blu-ray was then what DVD I mean in that like this is what you watch and all you to just find a thing to watch it on and you can watch the same exact that's what I think that's not only just good for consumers I think it's actually good for the industry but isn't that mean how could that not happen I mean it seems to me that it's it has to happen that way like every company has to be aware of the fact that's what I think I think I think if you're Sony you're aware of it and this is what this will cost said to me last night actually he didn't quite said Josh which was it should be that way our service should work on the TVs but for now it's a differentiator so for Sony because they have you know they make the movies and then ya can put them on the TVs they're gonna say well these only work on our TVs well they can I mean the read between the lines there is they can make sure you don't buy a Samsung TV right because making sure these I want to watch won't work right and making sure you don't buy a Samsung TV is critically important for Sony right and I think they're gonna export but that sucks for us right well so but then there's like the the hopeful pieces of it or like it's Samsung's booth today we saw Netflix streaming in four way and there were little like artifact T issues but whatever it's 4k and that's awesome and it seems like that's you know that gives me hope that it might actually work and eventually Saudis gonna have to realize that not everybody owns a Sony TV and they really like it if you'd watch Sony movies on your not Sony TV look watching the spider-man on my Sony TV is the only thing I want to do just by 4k doesn't matter how much it costs me I mean there's there's a lot to connect I mean Sony's the only one if you go to Samsung or LG or Toshiba what they're talking about is upscaling 1080p if you go to Sony they're talking about making native 4k right and distributing it to some house and at least that's a step one is I guess that's true and but it's because they make the cameras and they make the movies yeah and they make the TVs so it's like Sony is like well we don't have to go anywhere else to do more stuff but they can't be the lone holdout I don't yeah I don't know and I guess eventually it'll shake out and we're just sort of screwed until then I just won't buy a 4k TV and so I'm definitely my 4k there you're gonna buy the the crazy ezel next you've got it for 400 thousand times TV is like the most beautiful thing it's yes next year in it when they are like two grand or so I brought you think it'll catch on yeah you all right fair enough so we have one more thing to talk about and it's actually the coolest thing we have to talk about by far it's called the oculus rift it's a virtual reality thing it's also like the greatest name ever and make the Ingram one of our news writers went and got to take a look at this thing so let's take a look at that hi this is Nathan with The Verge we're here at oculus and we're taking a look at the rift this is their virtual reality headset and the piece of hardware we've got right here is the developer kit which is shipping out to Kickstarter backers at the end of March and it's pretty simple what you see here strap goes around your head and there's two lenses here that you look through for the 3d virtual reality experience and the total resolution of the screen is 1280 by 800 each eye receives 640 by 800 input you know the resolution doesn't sound is impressive as some of the high res screens you see today but we've been assured that once you put it on you're not even going to notice that we'll find out soon so that's basically all there is to the prototype hardware here there's a box right here the control box this hooks into your PC it's got a DVI port HDMI USB and power and that's about all there is from a hardware perspective but we're really looking forward to checking out is the software and how it works once you put it on so we saw this video and we're like super into this idea and Nia and I were both like we have to try this immediately so we actually brought some of the folks from oculus VR here this is Palmer Luckey the founder and so Palmer tell us like what what is this thing that we're looking at here so this is a prototype of the oculus rift Developer Kit it's basically a virtual reality headset with an extremely wide field of view and ultra-low latency head tracking so that it actually makes you feel like you're inside of the game so what's like what give me an idea of how kind of how this changes like especially for gaming how this changes how you play games well that's one of the things reason we're putting out a Developer Kit you know so people can mess around with it and tell us how they think it's gonna change it but um one thing for certain no no pay attention what one thing that is going to change for certain is that is that games it's not just about maybe having a task-oriented game where it's complete tasks complete tasks complete tasks and that's where your enjoyment comes from one cool thing about VR if you actually feel like you're inside of space and that's okay you can at you actually feel like you're inside of the space and that's huge for immersion so many games that have replaced immersion with you know trying to accomplish goals now it's actually about being inside of the game and just being there might topple on its own it might not be enough but it's yeah it'll be something you don't across America who want nothing more than just be lost and like the marathon spaceship yeah no much in it or amnesia or something like that I have it right so it's what I got faced really bad yes all right all right so take this hold up to your face move it up and down until it's in the sweet spot okay okay oh God you done pretty good Oh God oh come on in a spaceship you good I'm all right so tell me tell me what we're seeing so what this is back here is this is a stereo stereo can you still see it no my foot just hit this thing oh we're back yeah I swear I had a heart attack all right I'm about so what so what this is this is a stereoscopic 3d image it's pre warped you can see to work for our fish basically they're fisheye lenses yes this is our unity integration so unity is a great engine we also have Unreal Engine integration and code so you can put in the other engines but this is unity right here this is just a small space station it's a tech done well you can't really do much in it but you can do a few things so we're just looking around as this is like somewhat Neil eyes two eyes are seeing yes what what you're seeing behind here is what he can see just for people noticing you know trying to analyze latency or anything the input on this TV has quite a bit of latency so it's actually not lagging nearly okay I'm wearing this thing I mean as I'm talking it's moving up and down and on the image is moving up and down black which is crazy like it knows it knows it's on my face all right so so what you're gonna do is look all the way up this isn't yeah look all the way up now also show like try touching your ear to your shoulder the tilt your head okay so that that's something that you can't do in a normal in a normal game you don't get any roll effects can I go someone yes you can go so here's the controller the right Stickle movie alright so take it easy try to use the your head more than you're using right bums stop looking at this fan and I can like track that whoa dude okay I know that be looking a fan is not awesome for you but it is super trippy from me so you can go like downriver this is whoa God so I'm not good at video games I don't know if that's obvious to everyone this is awesome what some stuff oh god oh god oh god there's a camper I'm gonna I'm gonna throw up from watching you doing I mean I will say like this is ridiculous like it I don't like 3d things I usually get a headache and hate myself but this is legitimately like awesome 3d so like virtually feels like I'm in this room yeah up to those sparks try looking into the middle action feel like there that's what further walk further there you go no no I'm on fire no this is awesome like I I don't you can probably see this on the screen behind me but this feels like these are falling on me which ah and it actually feels like those pipes are actually running by your head yeah I mean yeah I know these pipes I'm pointing nothing are you that's that's the level of immersion then god I gotta copy he was just trying to pop into place yeah no that's a level and then I feel like I can point at things when I'm wearing this I mean I also feel like I'm chaotically moving her out of space there you are chaotically moving I might have to say here's my moving one at a time this is like drunk Neil and especially I want you to know if I could move my body like this in my real life this is what I would do haha oh my god I'm dancing it's like you're the flash have you ever seen me on a dance floor at a nightclub on drugs it's it looks very see it actually looks like I'm wearing a headset Oh God whoa yeah there's a joke okay that was really awesome that looks like I was gonna hit my head like I stopped because that is about head height you're me in that that is very uncomfortable well that's one of the cool things about VR is you actually notice the sense of scale in the environment alone yeah I mean this is like I'm I'm like inches away from this I want it that's where hello again I like to point out but for the average of you are with this looks like you're amazing no I see stupidly yep oh my god hello dude can I go to medieval village oh hey now all right this is ridiculous so so now he's in a completely entirely different place in just a few seconds yes but I'm also just doing this dance try to use one thumb good time No so one last you use one thumb when you can use two well use your head instead of the thumb tomorrow doing that yes so tell me where are we in the process of this becoming like I think I can buy and play games with so you know we're shipping developer kits in two months for $300 because he shot is a Kickstarter yeah was this yes so we started as a Kickstarter raise two and a half million dollars to ship developer kits as far as when everyone's going to be able to do this that really depends on the feedback that we get from developers you know we're putting these out there so that we can hear what you know from people like him and say these are the improvements that we want to see this is what we really need and then we can deliver that in a consumer version so I can't like Piron things know so well right now all you have is rotational tracking our trackers currently a gyroscope and accelerometer accelerometer and a magnetometer so it's only netting you basically rotational tracking and also if you roll your head we have it on a neck model so it knows your head can only move in a certain way so you get a little bit of position there but if you're doing this you're not going to get anything I don't know what if I lean forward and lean backwards I don't get anything that's something that we're working on for the consumer version it's it's basically a must-have kind of feature to keep players from getting disoriented to really can app that feel of immersion I'm gonna take the controller one more time and I'm gonna put you in a medieval village because you wanted to be there yes so we've got what other kinds of like movements and stuff can you program into this what else have you tested and thought about doing movements in terms of what your head can do or just other things that means I could be doing right so one of the things that we're looking into doing is integrating different kinds of motion controllers so that you know we think it'd be really cool in a future version to be able to see your hands or to be able to hold a weapon and actually move it around in a real space or track your whole body and those are all things that works better right okay so the thing I can't do in 3d is like I can't look around this thing exactly you don't have any positional tracking right now which you know you probably missed it cuz you were thrown so enthralled but we've it that's one of the things that we'll be in a consumer leaving the village ah I look like a bird so I'm producer just said to my ear I look like I'm so excited that's exactly correct I do like a terrifying blind bird that might kill you it anymore I mean oh God one interesting thing you know right well that this isn't a next-gen controller it's just a gamepad because it's a tested you know interface it's good for developers to use for programming and so what when you say developers are you talking to gaming companies or like Indies people or like oil so I mean I come from the indie community you know the hacker enthusiast community I think that there's gonna be some really amazing stuff that comes out of Indies and small studios that are just building stuff from the ground up I mean I'm just I'm excited about like coming up to this building and looking up to see what it is instead of like having to like run away and look at the sign is like very different like it's a very it feels like I'm in this medieval village I would like I mean if I could just sit on this rock and maybe get some wine and some cheese it's a very relaxing just sit and drink someone real real life wine and cheese and yeah VR village I in a lake it's a little pond oh god I could just sit here for hours but there will be triple-a titles that that'll be really interesting but I think that the most interesting thing overall will be Indies who build games for VR from the ground up because like the iPhone the best games are not the you know ports of first-person shooters there the one that use touchscreen analog sticks they're the ones that were designed with the hardware and right it's the same thing for probably the Wii where there's some games that used it maybe a gimmicky fashion shoehorned in yeah Nintendo first party titles most people would agree they utilize motion controls in a really good way I think it's gonna be the same way for VR people are gonna have to make games that are designed with virtual reality in mind I don't know how to get out of that pun so you it's a one it's your as a one-way ticket at which at which point do i trowe i which one does the headset alert me that my lungs are rapidly filling with water oh I'm out of the pod why did it there you go so when can you give us an idea of like the timeline of all this you're shipping out to developers in two months and so we're shipping out to developers in two months we're already working on prototypes of the next-generation consumer version we're not going to ship it until we have time to get feedback from developers but it's not going to be one of those things that never shows up or takes years and years it's going to be in the relatively relatively near future fair enough well thank you so much for coming out and showing thank you for having me if only Friday unbelievable gifts that we're about to see of nilai Batali's two guys doing this away from my head so alright that's awesome keep laying that's cool I'm gonna stay hold on you'll be fine oh god let's make sure his eyes are bloodshot are you good yeah I'm good this is it worse out here you'd rather go back I mean there was very relaxed yeah I found a way I laughing is this gonna be the new massage chairs where you go and you get like chairs who though when you put it on the medieval village for a while yeah I would say about taking that off and coming back to this space actually felt like returning to this space as opposed to like turning your TV I'm not looking at a screen anymore and that's what it's all about being inside the game yeah cool well thank you again thank you thank you so much for anything that is thank you that is our show we'll be back tomorrow we have all kinds of other stuff we have first tomorrow morning with all the other stuff that's going on in the world of CES there's a lot of it we have a ton of videos all over our site of crazy gadgets and people and interviews and check all of that out and we'll be back tomorrow at 3 o'clock but until then I leave you with what is almost 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