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hello I didn't see you there Paul you don't have a screen the Virgin's live gadget show we did a whole season the show on Twitter and the biggest piece of feedback we got was that you all wanted the show to be here on YouTube so here we are in YouTube we couldn't be more excited to be here with you it did it it's gonna be a big year for The Verge on YouTube and the show is gonna be the center of it all we're gonna play with as many gadgets as we can we're gonna have a screen up here I'm gonna be able to read your comments in the chat we're gonna answer your questions live every week 4 p.m. on Tuesdays it's gonna be super fun I by the way I mean I put on the head of the version it's a Paul you could still use Twitter hashtag circuit breaker live it's still very cool hashtags are still the best cool activity to do we'll also read those questions we are joined on the show by a huge cast that's amazing every week Ashley Carmen's here Jay cash Marcus is here this week Sean o Cain is gonna come on he's gonna show us what's going on teach you guys new drones Dan Seifert is going to join us we're gonna talk about the Apple home pod which we have it here in the studio we're gonna talk to Siri that's going to go about as well as you expect we're gonna take all of your questions live about the home pods to start asking ready for those and then Ashley's gonna join us again and we're gonna talk about what's happening with a digital instant cameras which are very quietly like a hot controversial would you chew a shoe would you see it the birds that we have a bevy of experts cornucopia of expertise the real situation but first we're gonna get and all that but first Ashley and Jake are going to walk us through the news take away hello yeah so we are rapidly approaching Samsung's phone season and the leaks are starting the s9 has leaked this week there should be so this is it looks just like you would expect a galaxy device to look like but hey this is a nice color it's a lie maybe and then also you'll notice the fingerprint sensor is below the camera as opposed to next to it which was a huge complaint people had there was also news today that this phone is going to be priced more expensive than the s8 like right out of the gate and people probably won't love that so this is what we know so far as maybe what it looks like and then also the plus has dual vertically stacked cameras which you don't see here but it's kind of like the iPhone time what's really well to me is that like a year ago this design really stood out and now this looks completely normal this is the front of every single yeah exactly doesn't want you anymore you're just like oh yeah so full display I'm all about Samsung doing weird interesting colors though we cover every standard color because we love them so much love it yesterday Intel out of nowhere basically announced smart glasses they're called vaunt we have an exclusive hands-on you should go read eaters article of a big video on it but the gist is that these are smart glasses that look completely normal so if you're thinking Google glass these are kind of all the way in the other direction rather than interacting with them a bunch with swipes and gestures and having a screen in front of your face there's basically nothing there is just some lasers that shoot a little projection into your eye and you don't even see it all the time it's just in your peripheral vision it'll show some notifications some contextual information it's basically just supposed to say out of the way so that it's there when you want it but not when you you know are actually talking to people and trying to interact with the rest of the world I think it's like a really neat and interesting approach and it sounds like they've learned a lot of the lessons that you know Google did not realize when it first did glass like people don't want to wear a computer other face yeah exactly so they definitely still have a lot to prove but they're supposed to come out with a developer version by the end of the year so yeah I'm definitely really interested when people start using this and how people interact with each other and while they're I mean technically are wearing a computer on their face like how I'm gonna talk to you right now but also be like silently watching my Twitter feed oh you're gonna give you full attention sometimes um so iPhone 10 we all know it for its notch and now Chinese phone manufacturers are introducing a bunch of notch knockoffs as we've started calling them so this is the oukitel one you can see there's the notch and then we have another one that just came out as welcome to Noah and ten also hesitant hatch what's interesting about these is that like the notch is great we like the notch but you're not fully like no one's going to see this and think oh that's an iPhone pad like this is not an iPhone 10 body also the screen doesn't go all the way to the bottom you have also the Android navigations I mean it's just not fooling anyone but you have a notch right like so androids not optimized for this is like gonna be a horrible way people have waited for their favorite apps to be optimized when the Android definitely is not going to have those apps I know people like the nachos very controversial I actually think it is cool because it's like instantly identifiable which i think is what they're going for here but like it's gonna it's pretty clear that this is not great and iPhone yeah I really like the not but I don't know if I like it on the notch knockoffs yes Microsoft last week dropped the price on two of its surface laptops quite a bit the surface book 2 went down by $300 the surface laptop went down by 200 said about 300 and 200 this is a free big decrease the which is great because gonna help get more people into the line for them but the downside is that they have more specs slower processor or less storage I think that's an okay trade-off in some cases but you know it's not necessarily the best thing it's not like they just dropped the price on the current entry-level they made like a new entry-level that's a bit cheaper I might guess as to why this happens is because the surface devices haven't been like selling quite as well as really well they were doing like surprisingly well but when Microsoft announced their earnings recently I think it was like a 1 percent year-over-year growth which is probably why they're trying to get more people in with these lower prices and you get the fancy fabric totally the nicely computers there for ya ok and finally this week we saw HP has decided that it's going to introduce new smart assistant skills for Alexa or Google home whichever so that you can talk to your printer and apparently shout at it to print you sodoku Pires I don't know why it was look there example it is really they want you to just shout and say hey printer or whatever your keyword is and say hey printer print me this doctors alright I know you know what you say to a printer print the thing right you need to have a document open like I don't that's why I don't because you're always out of computer creating a cloud service for Sudoku puzzles like he has you know it's not clear okay Jake it's really just not clear but um yeah I figure you're always out of computer anyways looking at the document thinking okay you know movie noises like they have this printed let me just print yeah instead you're gonna make wait this would be a nice a print in set this aside yeah Alexa the princess while you're with your family the idea of her strike that you're walking around your kitchen and you're like I you know what I forgot to bring that think whatever good for you keep doing you alright so we're gonna give it right back now to Paul and you I Shaw know Kane is here he'll respond in you little jittery just watched a gigantic rocket take off from Cape Canaveral yeah so Sean you strong as a reporter on our transportation team he's here to talk about drones but this is true you also cover a bunch of space with our Trebek space reporter Lauren Groff who's at Cape magic she is she just saw the thing go into this guy and do its thing we were all watching that stream right before the show stuff and then the little ones landing it that's a technical term so let's just talk about we got we can't ignore it yeah Sean you cover much tell us how important Falcon Heavy was I mean if we ever want to do more than we're already doing in space we need bigger rockets to do things that are more impressive than the things we've been doing like rockets so go to the moon go to Mars bring heavier if we ever want to do like Internet in space based on satellites we need to have your lift rockets and so you know SpaceX had a pretty clever solution to this which was this sort of multiple rockets strapped together solution which we've seen before but there whole ideas they're gonna land them all we know that two of the three landed we had we were not sure about the one that's supposed to land at sea yet but I mean it was one of those things where like no one was really totally sure it was gonna survive the whole thing so I mean the whole point the whole goal was don't explode yeah the goal and as long as it doesn't ruin the launchpad I'm fine yeah and so it didn't so bonus points is the yellow most Tesla yeah is the payload which kind of looks like this drone in space now whatever that's crazy my favorite part of this is the pause asking sir oh they can't land the Tesla on Mars right we don't want to contaminate Mars there he said yesterday on a press conference that there is a tiny tiny chance that hits Mars which he'll actually be in some deep water if it does but it's not going to he's gonna miss it by a lot he's just trying to make a spectacle I'm ready to contaminate Mars the first thing we contaminate Mars which should not be Elon Musk are super exciting I was actually sad that was running into or ship because I wanted to watch it but all the timing worked out we got to watch it and now we're here to talk about drones other things that fly maybe not quite as high the DJ I'm advocare it just came out it just came out they announced it two weeks ago yeah maybe three put it on sale less than a week later they've gotten really good at this sort of like maybe some rumors and stuff leaked but otherwise like here's the thing it's available next week like get ready are they I think they really they're a company that's really honed their sort of product presence over the last couple years and they've made really good products this is sort of the latest and greatest from them and it is if you're familiar with the DJI lineup there's the Navajo at the top we have right here on both it's like the inspire I'm sorry I'm like there's a whole of them more like portable ones right the the ones that are at $1,000 or less and so we've got the Mavic Pro which is a little bit more than a thousand the spark which is the one they released a couple months ago maybe even or I guess back in 2017 which is a more approachable drone for people who are just starting out and then now this is the Mavic air and it sort of slots in between those two but it also kinda replaces the map it's in many ways other than maybe battery life and like a couple small details it's basically this in this package yeah it's pretty wide so what's the point so you guys line up is it's either the simplest thing in the world or the most complicated yeah this probably complicated things a little bit this is $7.99 you can get it for $9.99 with a whole bunch of extra batteries and sort of extra propellers and things like that but you do get a lot 417 $7.99 this is 399 used to be 600 used to be 500 and 600 with all that extra stuff so this one's really still the entry-level what complicates things is if this is really replacing this but they're still selling this for more that's where it's a little bit weird but this one folds up to be this big yeah and that one folds out to be small this folds up into a profile that is yes even smaller than the spark so the spark is obviously lighter I'm showing you visions later this mark is lighter than the Mavic air yeah and this is the carrying case that comes in the case is smaller than the case for my Nintendo switch yeah that's ridiculous I'm writing before DJI like win on this tear but before the first map that came out I bought a phantom before and that's like this is the one this is the consumer Richie Rich well my forthcoming child is not going to college now but she can look at my drone flying that's but I thought that was like we've hit the pinnacle this is a small and then GJ I just went on this absolute terror yeah with these smaller magic drones and now this and then the sparking down the air so what would in the last like year and a half so which one do you buy so I the the split for me is the same split I think that our one of our videographers and directors out west Viren who did the review of the Mavic air I think he elucidated it pretty well in his review the split is if you're doing any kind of professional work you know weddings landscape photography things like that you're probably still better off opting for the phantom the Phantom for the Phantom 4 Pro depending on there's a couple different versions that's that's work it's actually really good music but if you're just a hobbyist or if portability really really matters to you the Medicare is for sure a little bit of damage to the propellers but you can yes you said it and and it's just it the value really comes from the ability to not be lugging around because if you've ever seen anybody use the Phantom for program for and you know this it's huge and the box that you have to fit it in because none of it folds up those big landing legs and even this was like a little bit heavy you've always got this exposed whereas the camera now is sort of tucked in here on the Mavic air the Mavic air has the same camera system as the Maverick Pro so so the image quality is the same yeah and the only benefit you really still get with the Mavic Pro and the new version of it the Maverick Pro platinum is you get a few more extra minutes of battery life this also works over RF with the controller is opposed to Wi-Fi which means the range is a little bit longer than the Maverick air but I mean the navikev those are trade-offs you want to get slightly less range Jordan on YouTube here sitting in the chat this uses it's going out this uses Wi-Fi to connect yes and you get a little bit less range and people are playing at the video signal to your phone or whatever is less good I don't think that matters as long as I didn't have as many it doesn't matter especially because like if I were to use it I would use it for especially for photography and videography more than just the fun of flying it and that kind of stuff usually really bothers me if like the video is cutting out I didn't experience that with this I didn't fly it too far away because it's been really windy all weekend here how did you end it actually held up pretty well gussev like 25 no it really didn't that was the weirdest thing about it it if you were filming straight through like trying to pull off like kind of a smooth nuber anything above 15 miles an hour was starting to give you a little bit of trouble as far as like you know it would correct and you could see that and the footage is it right the windows is just kind of go with the flow it's there's a tolerance right like if it gets if a gust comes at some point you you can see it in the footage in the way that it would you know the gimbal which is trying to hold it steady but all of a sudden just sort of like an jump and like finally give in yeah but it but it hold it pretty well in the battery life I mean I think when you're working with a max of 21 the differences of what you're gonna get yeah how are you gonna go yeah they're pretty small anything if you can show this camera these so we asked TJ about this too I think all of us have asked about the Wi-Fi versus RF yeah so these are actually the Wi-Fi antennas in these lives yeah and the reason that at least they told me I'm sure they told you the same thing they can't fit the RF components into a chassis too small yes they do the customer of so they had to go with this boosted Wi-Fi and especially because this has seven cameras on it you can see all the way around it has cameras on like basically every surface which means that it has obstacle avoidance in every direction at which they haven't had in these other smaller drones before to the point that it even has a mode where you can set it to it's called a pass like forget what it stands for right now but basically instead of like what what this would do if it saw something approaching it it would just stop so it wouldn't crash which is great but what this can do is it with enough cameras on it it can actually sort of plot out a path to get around the obstacle so if you've set the drone to sort of like follow a mountain biker and like you just like let it go and follow that path but all of a sudden there's a tree that you didn't really think was in the way but it is it can move around that and it won't really disturb that shot too much it'll keep that person in focus just feels like they're not holding anything back they're not like well this is the mid-tier we better make sure that it doesn't eclipse this one they're just like I think what we have technology wise I think it was a bold move just sort of just like up and essentially kind of replaced this but it does sort of pave the path for them to do something new with this like thousand dollar and up version that they have you know I'd like they can maybe make the Phantom for a little bit smaller now or maybe they could do something even crazier like forty minute battery life in this form factor or something I know right talk about these controllers yeah they're real different so this is the Mavic that's the magic bus controller which has well you can see an integrated screen in there to give you some basic information but it's still meant for you to plug your phone in who uses the viewfinder what I really like about this is such a small little detail but they the joysticks on the pneumatic air controller tuck right in here so that when you pack it up like I'm a kind of person that just like throws stuff in his bag and like the objects suffer the consequences whereas like here you can take these off the end plug them in and you're not having these like get mangled up in your org like catch something else in a bag and then you just take your phone yeah face I do you like this thing up good right I mean we're here that's the whole point of the show another thing to know about the pneumatic air is that it has some more advanced gesture controls compared to the sparked the spark you were able to let fly like off your your hand and everything oh no Mavic air you can actually take off from the ground so if I was standing in front of this right now I could hold my hand out it would recognize that it would fly up and do things like that and I will say I have watched a lot of videos that people have put online just for our own sanity we here for this weather people watch I have a NASCAR there is this a there's this guy in in Texas now I turn the remote on that probably willed there's this guy in Texas who was just sort of standing out in the middle of nowhere and he was only able to get about I want to say like a mile and a half orange and there are advertising two and a half miles of this so I do still think if if you're someone who's flying if you're a skilled pilot who's still flying very far away you're probably not gonna want to pop for the air but the air is really it's like the perfect thing to like always have it there ready yeah like maybe if you're a pro you fly with your you fly with your phantom but like this is the thing that you always have ready whenever you need it and terrified yeah you should be totally goes it can totally go worse than the Falcon Heavy much because the Falcon have actually flew the full size Matic you know without guards guards aren't just like lid it up and take I'm just backing up a little bit all right here we go I put out a lot of bravery and confidence nice that's awfully windy so with this spark you to know it's loud they haven't made it any quieter than the Matic for a platinum the Matic pro platinum has these new propellers that are quieter 10 decibels so this is definitely not quieter so it's smaller which means it's discrete but like people still know when you take off yeah so there's us ok let's take a oh and here's the thing I forgot to put a memory card back in this but it has 8 gigs of internal storage now so go in its fault all right now yeah I think I'd turn on the gesture recognizers bet I will say come back I am so ready to run we'll just set it down over there because it wasn't backing up so we'll just land it over there I will say it is as someone whose phone a couple of these different drones in the past it is like really easy to fly like they've really smoothed out sort of all the algorithms as far as like how it balances itself out it has a sport mode that does forty two and a half miles an hour which is actually terrifying I flew that around a field and then I brought it back towards me and the distance it needs to stop I wasn't sort of ready for so it's like the is that like you'll lose some of the obstacle avoidance I think when it's far out like I remember bringing it up to a certain height and it would tell me that it would lose some of that but yeah it's it's otherwise relatively easy to fly what it looks great from another company to buy our big trader Ben popper dead karma he wrote a thing over a year ago almost yeah your and how it's a grip this of its propellers to really the only real competition is itself yes point all the other ones don't really compare the car the Karma was like I don't know maybe in another generation or two it could compete a bit even CEO Nick Woodman of GoPro has admitted like there's just no way that they were not like vertically integrated enough to like make something new as fast as a company like DJ yeah yeah so these are really this is like where you want to look if you are looking to get into drones I still think if you've never flown one before sparks still the best way to go it's cheapest it still does a decent video at least for social yeah maybe not for pro work but but the real killer would be if you could fold those legs it yeah that's the only thing is like if you have a couple extra hundred bucks to spare oh it's down on the ground pretty nicely well yeah I can't think of a better thing to take photos of my new baby with everyone was noticing that sound is incredible we threatening yeah it's not always the first I get a lot of social anxiety so I went like all the way outside the city to fly this thing and I set it down in a park there was almost nobody around me and then it fired up and I was like oh god this is too much like everybody knows that I'm flying this thing and they just can't see it because it's smaller exactly everyone wants to know if the core booster landed I think you probably so we're gonna let Sean go we're gonna find out what's going on the score booster let you know on the livestream there but we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna watch a little bit of the home pod review to get through some of the super nitty-gritty technical details and then Dan c4 it's going to be here we're gonna have basically every smart speaker that we can get our hands on plus the home pod ask us your questions in the chat we're ready to answer answer them right ask Siri your questions let's watch this video we read back so this is the home pod the home pod is Apple's answer to the Google home and the Amazon echo and every other smart speaker out there with a voice assistant it's a $350 speaker that has Siri the basic idea is pretty simple it's covered in a weird spongy fabric there's a touch display on top and it's surprisingly heavy but the home pod is pretty limited Siri just can't do as much as other assistants and the only music service you can control your voice is Apple music if you're a Spotify person the home pod is probably not for you and I think Apple knows it's pretty limited because all of the company's focus is on sound quality the truth is most other smart speakers sound crappy and home pod sounds incredible we've been comparing it to the new Amazon echo a bunch of Sona speakers including the new Sona Swan in the Play 5 the Google home and the Google home acts and even Bluetooth speakers like the UE mega boom and it's just obviously better than all of them the home pod isn't just one speaker it's actually eight of them all controlled by an a8 processor and tons of custom software there are seven tweeters that fire down and out from the bottom and a single four inch woofer pointing out of the top for low frequencies there's also a total of seven microphones six around the middle for Siri and a seventh inside that measures the location of that woofer so Apple can precisely control the bass when you first plug in the home pod and start playing music it goes through a series of steps that tune the speaker to the room it's in first it uses the mics to detect any walls nearby so it knows how sound will bounce off of them second it uses of seven tweeters to form a virtual array of sound beams that are assigned a direct and ambient sounds like vocals and applause the ambient channels are pointed at the walls to reflect and the direct sounds are pointed out at the listener sometime during all of that it detects the walls again to refine the model of the rumensin then it analyzes the difference between the left and right channels of the music and playing to figure out what sound should go into what beams ambient or direct and then it measures the position of the subwoofer and the reflections of the bass constantly as you're playing music to make sure the bass doesn't overwhelm the rest of the music all of this happens at once within like ten seconds if you move the home pod an accelerometer inside detects motion and it does it all over again in terms of ideas I'm into a virtual array of sound beams that points guitar solos at my face is super high on the list go back then see friends here hi I'm doing well I've spent a lot of time talking to Siri oh that's a fun time it's all right so you have reviewed most of the other smart speakers I just reviewed the hum pod we just watched a video I've had it for about a week now Apple took me to they didn't take me they invited me but you know I took myself their own way as we always do but why not Cupertino hung out with their hardware VP hung out with their head engineer for audio with Phil Schiller walk through audio labs and some other engineers got really deep in how the home pod works you listen to a lot of Hotel Co we listen to a lot of Hotel California so the true experience the video you just watched it I think what's happening on the audio side of the home pod is super impressive and cool I'm a audio nerd I like have all kinds of speakers in my house usually I don't like love a lot of audio processing this thing is doing so much computing to make itself sound good all of the time that I just the part where it has seven speakers here so you think all seven speakers are doing something different those seven speakers are actually making three virtual speakers and they're firing back against the wall or out of the front like all of that is so cool there's a microphone inside that measures the position of the subwoofer I don't precisely control two bookshelf speakers yeah a nice amp some sliders yeah you need that graphic EQ yeah no I don't even need a cue so we're just gonna start going in on questions here yeah first question everybody asked in the chat is there a mute switch and the answer is basically no so all the other ones the echo here is the echo is muted you can see it's red the SONA swan you push the button on top it mutes Google home devices have switches here's what you can do with the home pod which is not necessarily great you can say hey Siri stop listening and then Syria Syria and there's no claim now it confirms it just didn't work hey Siri stop listening I can turn off hey Siri but if I do you'll need to press the top of the device to get my attention is this what you want yes ok I've turned off hey Siri that's off Wow so now if you want to eat me like you do now you gotta hold it down there you go what's the weather I'll do it it's so serious a lot if you want to turn it actually do you need fall camp all Schism if you want to turn that back on you go into the home app and then you force touch on home pod and then you press details get rid of my slack messages and then you go here and you gotta click that back on the other thing that I pointed out in the review video everyone focused on Spotify will get into Spotify in a second I think this is actually the bigger problem with the home pod right now the way it is configured you just hit yes and all the setup prompts the setup is super easy let's blast through it it will just let anyone read my texts seriously let me see what my last text ok is it yeah you say read my most recent text message hey Siri read my most recent text message it's from what I found your most recent messages walt mossberg oh no that's crazy that is Bunker's right like anybody in your house is relative and the gate is if you're just on the same Wi-Fi network yeah turn that off okay watch this I think if you're in a dorm yeah and you're on the dorm Wi-Fi in their home I mean it's expensive but some college students are gonna buy this you're the dorm Wi-Fi and you leave your dorm room in the dining hall someone can walk up to your clothes store and like yell the wake word and ask it to read your text messages and it will just do it oh so you just turn that so here's how you turn it off this is a lot of steps so this is the home pod settings sure that's fine yeah you think it said you're already in there because he closed gone to the process yeah you it's not there it's here in the compass compass and you go here and if you code you pick your house and you do that you know I want to show you my email address it's here and you turn off there so it's like not in the home pod settings it's in your house settings would you that's logical not sensible so this is a home device to home kit device so those those that those two things just those two little configuration things where you don't want anybody to roll up to it and read your text and turning the mic on and off require just they just require you to operate your phone in a way that none of these other devices really want you to use your phone like the Alexa devices is the oxide was horrible but get is actively designed to make you not want it almost feels intentionally so yeah cuz they just want you to talk to Alexa the home app is fine the Google just once you talk to it whatever the home pod to me is just directly connected to your phone your individual phone on a review I called it lonely and I think that's like yeah it's just like that part sense all right what else do people want to know also Siri and then we just have hey Siri hey Siri play some music sure let's kick things off with planets and stars my first coat sure that's weird hey Siri play Taylor Swift we're just gonna do this we're just gonna deal with the licensing issues sure here's a personalized station of Taylor Swift this is Chris favorites my favorite so you can be like hey Siri who plays the bass on this song I don't know who plays that instrument for this band and that is basically the Siri experience hey Siri how much doesn't home pod weigh everything you need to know about home pots is on Apple's website that's Calexico Alexa how much does a home pod way how much is a home Wayne just like what I said no we did this before right Alexa how much does a home pod way home Maude weighs 5.5 pounds Google has the answer so it's just like it's it's Siri it works as well as Siri works and it's supposed to be able to tell you who's playing on all the songs that you listen to it's not we can't show you what it sounds like you're like we're just not set up for that in the studio if you watch the video we set up a really fancy binaural microphone puts the headphones on played the same song through all the speakers and in a pretty good location my house and you can you can actually hear a difference not like the difference you really need to hear it in person but the biggest question the controversy of the morning is Spotify because I said in the review it doesn't work with Spotify in Jonathan Morrison who's a good dude who I like and we watched his videos you know the collabs with us his video is like yes you can't use it with Spotify here's the difference I'm gonna explain this to everybody you can airplay to this using virtually any app on your phone that supports airplay you push the button it's on your phone and send it over over airplay airplay supports some playback commands so you can play/pause next track previous track it's a big fancy remote control but because it does have buttons you can just say next track back track it will send that command to your phone over airplay and that will pass to Spotify okay so you get like yeah that's not Spotify support it's not like running Spotify it doesn't know it's Spotify it's just sending these like yeah you can't ask it what's the same YouTube speaker has playback controls on the top it will like lightly control the thing it also does what you want it it's a nice computer review it should just be able you should just be able to set Spotify as a default would say hey play me a song absolutely and it's just played from Spotify so there's this limited support for playback controls on any airplay app Spotify a title and or what have you I think that is very different than controlling Spotify it sounds like what you're saying is that this sounds great but it's a big dummy but isn't that true of any truly great Rock store the power cord in the chat super nice but it's also permanently attached which means that if you vacuum it or your cat tears it or whatever you have to go get the whole thing repaired whereas virtually every other one of these has a detachable power cord that you can replace very easily yes which just seems like a weird weird thing but it is a very it might have a vacuum okay here's the other big question I just caught in the chat from ro was asking chat here can you play music on the Apple TV and have it playing the home phone at the same time so it's a $350 speaker it's you know if you're a normal issue person it's probably the best speaker you're gonna own you probably wanna play your TV out of it if you have an Apple TV you can set the Apple TV to airplay to it like any other airplay speaker that will connection will last until you ask it to play music then it will lose that connection and then when you go to watch the Apple TV again you have to go back into settings and set its airplay again are the settings in the home cap or no they're on the Apple TV so every time you watch something you got to make sure connected to the home pod as an airplay device which seems incredibly inconvenient right you also if you have an apple if you don't have an apple - you can't use it as a TV speaker via Apple TV and a Playstation you can't use it as the PlayStation speaker just the Apple TV so I don't think it's ready to be a TV connected speaker unless literally all you have in your life is Apple products and you only use the Apple TV and you're willing to deal with that airplay that's my goal but you see this is the best speaker on this table or like one of the best speakers you've ever heard it's one of the best figures I've ever heard without a doubt it is I mean like okay it is the best speaker on this table okay I think Dan I think you reviewed the home max I did yes and you know the funny part is like any one of these in a vacuum is going to sound really good like the home max if you don't compare to anything else that this is a speaker you bought and you put in your house you're probably gonna be really happy with the way it sounds the same for this so nice one sounds excellent on its own these two are a little different they you know they kind of sound like garbage right away but when you compare them ahead the head and side by side the home pod basically stands out from everything it's it fills a room better it's got better bass response without getting muddy it just sounds more full and like there are certain things that maybe this honest one is a little clearer on certain frequencies but overall most people I would say like 99 out of 100 if a no blind tests are gonna probably pick the home pot as the one yeah so we the whole max is very loud and very big but it has this like weird scooped sound which means that it has a very low mid-range but like boosted bass boost the trebles so it has this kind of weird sound in the home app a lot of people asking this the home app does have EQ settings but the I agree at the end it sounds like really boosted bass really boosted treble you know what slider isn't in the home apps EQ settings this when you compare this to say like a sona's play v which is roughly the same size and the same price range and everything this just sounds like it has this like filter over the sound that's like softening it and you lose a lot of that clarity for some reason but like I said if you never compare it I think we're probably like reviewers are the only ones who are gonna compare these head-to-head if someone buys this and puts in their house they're gonna probably be really happy with it but you know there are better options out there so I think these are the two best actually I really don't like the way the hell max sounds that's my personal taste it's all very subjective head-to-head this sounds better than the Sonos but again this sounds really good and it lets you guys do you Spotify and lets you control Spotify of Alexa so and it's like a danger of the workplace here and cenis is like a music platform so you get all kinds of sound speakers if in all kinds of rooms and Spotify Kinect is on all kinds of devices and you're the stereo pairing with this not yet and airplay - is it out what airplay - comes out sonís will support it and you'll be able to tell this to light up a center speaker over airplanes you'll also be able to do multi room with this and stereo pairing it's not all that stuff that you can do with someone else today but you can't do it what if we live in a world we could use multiple of these together you know it's fun you can you will be able to do that and you can do that with these - which is which is funny you can and you can set a multi-room with that it's a little little hinky it's better if you want multi room right now so nose is probably the best system for doing that if people in the chat are asking us about the display on top so I think Apple has been good maybe Chloe leave it I wouldn't say needlessly baby but vague about what's happening with this speaker so you see it lights up like that mmm that's not a screen that's a bunch of multicolored LED is under like a cloudy glass layer it's like a hue bulb and it's just there to show you it's active they can't actually display anything precise on that screen they told me it's not designed to display text so you can't add interface elements to that or anything and then when you do play music white LEDs light up on the sides here so that's cool but that's all that's really happening they're just a bunch of lights it's also on top so if you're across the room you can't see it easily and stuff like that which is a little frustrating all the other ones except for the sonís one is very difficult to see it's little light but there's Google ones the echo devices you can see across the room whether they've heard you or infirmed or doing it so the question people ask me are you gonna buy one I buy everything like it's weird that I don't want to buy this like I can't figure out where it fits and customer for this because you use Apple music if you don't use up a music that's an instant like non-starter you like goods yeah like this thing sounds great and I'm so enamored with what Apple did to make it sound good I think it's just such cool technology but all of the series stuff all of the Apple music restrictions all of that to me is just like I don't I can't figure out where it fits and for me to not figure out where I can just like shove a gadget into my life is like very strange just get rid of one cantaloupe but then you run into the problem of Siri which can't do like two timers yeah okay last question somebody asks is a fabric better on the Google home or the home pod this is really you have to go to an Apple store and like squeeze this it's just not it's not at all what you'd expect yeah I don't think I don't think it's just like like metal or plastic behind it so funny story from my review of the home max I had it up on my mantle it fell off my mantel because it's actually very heavy it's 12 pounds and I damaged the front cover and it tears a little bit but this is a this is not the the one that drops but it is a plastic cover on that we're running way over here I'm gonna answer this question you cannot so you cannot use this as a standalone you have to have an iOS device yeah you can't just buy it and set it up out of the box you can't have an if you have Apple music on Android you're like one of those five people just sorry you like Apple but you can't even set it up with a Mac right you have to have it's iOS okay that's a lot on speakers thank you so much for your questions we're gonna watch a quick video this is Matt Guerin and CES just failing to have a smart suitcase followed and then we come back ash is gonna be here we're gonna talk about some instant cameras take a look at this we're still years away from planes with modular cabins completely see through walls or trains with Hyperloop like speeds in the mean time travel accessories companies are selling us on a vision of future travel in the form of smart luggage these travel gear is supposed to make things feel modern and secure but they may cause more headache in their work take the trend autonomous luggage these suitcases the computer vision technology built into them so they can recognize the owner and automatically roll after them as they're walking now conceptually this is kind of neat if you're a caretaker having both hands-free to tend to your family members is useful especially at a place as chaotic as an airport or train station but in practice the prototypes we still have a long way to go take 90 funds puppy one suitcase it legitimately ran away from me the tech is pretty impressive it uses segways auto balancing technology to propel itself make smooth turns and ride over bumps but it turns out it's a lot more like a puppy obviously to throw at a curve ball a company called forward X makes a similar product called the CX one this suitcase did an okay job following me around but sometimes miss turns and would bump right into me when I stopped moving it's hard to imagine that these bags wouldn't plow into other people in the same way in a more crowded area basically it was more to babysit these so-called smart bags and it was just like my old dumb suitcase around not to mention that some of these smart bags could raise serious flags at TSA checkpoints I know because it happened to me back in 2016 with the first model of the blue smart bag that had exposed wiring and a non removable battery given my experience I reached out to a TSA to ask whether these new bags might cause disruption at security checkpoints but all they told us was that they'll scan the bags as long as they're FAA compliant and finally there's price these things are not cheap with crowdfunding projects for bags you can ride an autonomous suitcase is going between 1,100 to $1,500 it's great the designers and engineers you're thinking about making bags that make travelers lives easier especially for people with mobility impairments but just like the hyper lutz and flying cars of our time it looks like we're still a few years away from that vision of the future we're back all of these speakers have magically disappeared I'm here I'm good thanks for having me I'm really happy that we don't have to talk to avoid assistants anymore you have brought us a new instant camera you were on the show last season mm-hmm to talk about instant camera market that's developing and that's the Instax which is like the I would say the standard-bearer yeah so this was the new I came on the show last season to talk about this s q10 this was fuji films square photos i can show you guys an example this was the size which is just square it's not a mini Instax like they've previously made and it was it's a digital camera as well as an instant camera so you can take photos store them on a micro SD edit them within the camera this is a beautiful photo of the office yeah do different things um it's pretty simple and it was different for that many people and these are like hot sellers yeah I mean I know people love them but they're cool cool so then what is this this thing looks great okay so at CES this year there's a fingerprint Polaroid yeah it loves finger prints Polaroid was like hey we can do square too and so they introduced the Polaroid pop and that's what this is and it's sort of the same idea where it's a digital camera as well as you can print photos and these big square formats and then you also can have a micro SD is you can put these on your computer your phone whatever share them an Instagram and it is very bad like very bad I want to show you guys though really quick if I could do this so this is actually where you load the paper yeah I thought this is where printed as well and then it prints at the top do you want me to show you how to take a photo in here okay maybe I'll take a photo with Paul yeah so you have to turn this alright it's so slow it just now loaded like it's seriously the slowest thing okay there you are Paul so wow like you can with hood you Tomy can edit but this has all of the terrible clipart stickers and things like that so here we go a bunch of clipart we'll just put a big question mark right you this is like the smartphone supply chain is that people are able to do this stuff and it's the buggiest software it's just oh and this is like a akin ten year old Android phone I can write here so I can just write your name right so that white border is just a lie in the sense of it doesn't contain ink right so this is doesn't contain the photo or the photo right it's just it's just for looks like here you have this hole this is this is regular it's like a real pool yes this is a real pole right you have this here this is just dink paper which is he activated ink and it's terrible really but Zink is cheap it's less than a dollar a print where is real prints are expensive so I'm gonna put this out for you Paul because I know you really really want this God so we're gonna print its gearing up the sound effects are awesome I mean to me the whole point of this show is that we bring on things that look cool in pictures and renders encounters yeah cuz I think it's cute yeah pretty and then we turn them on in their ten year old Android phones inside that make horrible sounds and slowly so one nifty feature which again no one you want we all have smart phone okay anyway you can record video on this too exactly frames per second alright here you go so the reveal such a great photo it's pretty good I'm also gonna show you guys there's a companion app of course there is it's just dumb because you don't need digital copies like Shawn I'm actually review that sq so what does that sound that's the that's what she got it's so here's what my the insects and the other cameras like that are they're part of this wave where they're like it's a little bit of a computer but like really it's about physical objects it's like kind of retro looking and then they they like capture this huge market right and then Polaroid got mad at them because they're like wait that's what we do yeah so Fuji phones been around for a very long time and in between season one and two right now Fuji film and Polaroid are now in a legal battle because Polaroid says that Fuji film is infringing on its patents Polaroid by the way is bankrupt and sold all its intellectual property to the document on the screen yes new eyes a lawyer Nilay lawyer thing I just want to point out two things this is the lawsuit that Fuji film this isn't Polaroid suing Fuji is suing alright for being annoying so the thing they said that they're infringing on is this white border Polaroid sized foodies I'm gonna hop to the whiteboard the point of this is Polaroid if you look at this it's not even polar it anymore it's like a holding company for trademarks and then this is Fuji film saying its declaratory judgment so they just going to the court and they're like can you make Polaroid go away which is incredible yeah they say Polaroid just call them up was like you always millions of dollars by the way Polaroid was at one time a great American yes the thing is Fuji's has been a camera company they know how to make cameras they made a reasonably good camera that people really like Polaroid is like like a bunch of suits who like bought this trademark and it seems like they just went to Shenzhen and bought like garbage parts like the worst parts if you look at this screen I can't see this on camera the screen is like you're so used to your smartphone screen which is like super tightly laminated this is like six inches and so they're just try cashing on this like craze of the Polaroid brand this is horrible Paul can I show you the off button because this makes favorite things it's so dumb there we go yeah it's just a little touch screen button also just so you're aware you can also it also a very very bad companion app I was editing a beautiful photo blown up because you're on the tablet yeah exactly yes they vote for iOS or Android you can see your gallery I made this picture of hi I'm for him these are photos that were taken on the camera you could yeah better than that one oh it is this is a 20 megapixel camera but so bad it's so bad this is only a 3 megapixel camera but it's somehow better alright because it's like yes so the how much is the Fuji one cost - 80 - 80 and the film is about more than a dollar print okay and then the pop is 200 and the prints are less than a dollar print and they look like it and it look like it this is very bad this is not a touch screen on the Fuji film by the way so I used to see these a party it's just like constantly and then they kind of trickled out do you think this fad continues on yeah it's so fun and we actually bought a bunch of accessories like different frames and like clips to hang things up I think people just love that like why not yeah well they love these white corners right so then you we do is you take your phone and you take a picture of this camera in this photo right yeah because that's what they're trying to get it here it's like oh you want to share these photos I'm on to but I was like no you want to take a picture of the physical photo and then share the picture of the physical photo yeah cool things I know everyone's hot for an update on the central core we don't know if it's landed on the drone ship yet we don't know but they are alive there are now live shots of the car in space which is like yeah they're taking them with you he mounted cameras in the car alright we've just got a few minutes left let's answer some of your questions a lot of people still have home pod questions that's like the main thing people wanted what do you think of the home perm what do I think of it I like how squishy it is also I was shocked when that was in a display on top not this whole time I was like oh it's a display are you Spotify person yeah so it would never would you ever switch my Spotify for sound quality that's the do you have a small speaker I use bluetooth what about this though yeah we have to bring this thing out earlier this is the iPod hi-fi what come far we've come so this this thing was my original like party jam speaker cuz can you see this said aux-in it's got a regular power cord and then my dude so we would go to parties in college and we'd stop CBS 2 by D so bad [Laughter] and then we plug our iPods into it it was great this thing sounded incredible as well Steve Jobs introduced us on stage he's like I've only speaker systems that cost more than you can imagine this sounds better than all of them it didn't it was like 700 hours or the ridiculously expensive people are asking if you can set an alarm to wake you up with music on me and the answer I believe is no it's the same as Siri whatever you can do with your phone so like you can pick a tone where are you that I wonder a $6 we're at $1 six by four print is cheap I don't think the print the point is that they're cheap you know in the market that's like one of the cheapest right that's like as cheapies you're gonna get for a print right it's not gonna be cheaper than that yeah a little less you want cheap prints yeah I like walking price is expensive because it's always for yeah we just need we just need information usually what if I like tangible things though well is this tangible I want to hold the photo close to my heart every day what else we got everyone is asking about privacy and me on the home Potter Apple's better at privacy than every other company because they don't make their money and data they make their money selling new things which is another reason why not supporting Spotify is confusing because they're still selling you a home pod yeah it's like like you're stealing but yeah so they don't collect any data they try not to send anything to the cloud that they don't have to whereas everything Amazon Google do runs in the cloud so that that I think is if you are interested in that most people I think just happily trade away their privacy like a moment's notice without thinking about it but yeah Apple is generally better at privacy things and they're certainly not have no incentive to collect a bunch of your personal data they don't want it they're really good at making sure they don't take it when they don't need it should Apple make deals with Spotify and who let sutter be more flexible they already have a deal with Hulu who is on the Apple TV I think a good comparison for them about is actually the Apple TV so the Apple TV is Apple's thing mmm they were on the iTunes Store they will happily rent you movies they don't allow anyone else to rent you movies on the attitude on the Apple TV but YouTube's on there who's on their YouTube TV is on there now PlayStation TV is on there now like there's a bunch of other TV services on the Apple TV they do everything except the one thing Apple wants to do so you could make the argument that they're they're more open on the Apple TV I mean yeah it's true they're more open on the Apple TV than like the watch or the home pod they just really need those subscribers for Apple music is that what this is about probably it's Apple makes like thousand billion dollars every quarter the 30 million Apple music shows are not a rounding error feel like in Apple's head you'd just be sad if you were using an inferior service like Spotify Apple doesn't want you to be sad they wanted you to be glad so they will force you into their great service um then another question is the thing on top of display around this is si you you have a lot of expectations about that thing because you want it to be a dis I don't know just should be a display yeah the fact that it's just lights is like what yeah there's a thing where like points at you which i think is the best feature yeah you hate that oh you do like that because it's responsive like when we didn't have time for it before we put a stopwatch like one of the big differences in all of these is how quickly they respond the home pot is not the winner is very slow but you can speed up that feeling just by like lighting up I think that light is so important you need to see that I think to know you're getting that interaction sure to this person just says I love Spotify huh like the green color I think Spotify his interface is backwards no like it just doesn't let you know what music is available to you it's like would you like another playlist another robot has made another player one of your cooler friends is listening to this music at this time my phone what do you want out of a second-generation nice if it could be your home theater audio yeah so many people have terrible TV audio or they like buy a projector because projectors are great right now hmm but then running audio like yeah like you you put your Apple TV and extra projector and then you have to run audio cables all the way to the front of your room it's messed up I think so this is like a cautionary tale we happily put out a speaker eight years ago they're like this is we want a piece of that bose action right great and then they were not committed to it they dropped it you know that market ran away from them if you want to do home pod and you're like interested in the home you've gotta like work in every room so if you look at Amazon's lineup they make a little one that make a big one on the screen yeah so nice makes you know all kinds of speakers and make amps to make just little boxes that connect to your existing Stewart like they fit into all the rooms in your house I'm like not everybody needs that some people just take one speaker but people want to watch on their TV people wanna watch music and more than one or a bit of time sometimes and like Apple has not figured out they've not communicated at least how they're gonna do all of that so they have come up with a way where I can read in Eli's text I think use it is the lonely person makes is accurate because it's like I use a speaker for when friends come over my friend's mom be like I won't play this new song Bluetooth or whatever it is or just inaudible and now it's like okay you don't use Apple music hopefully you have an iPhone yeah all right the best the best version of this song is this like kind of live version that's on YouTube yeah yeah yeah I play music off YouTube all the time yeah I will say Ashley brothers point I there's a line and this we had to end the show but there was a line in an interview that was like this is a product that seems like it was designed for a very demanding person who lives alone entirely within Apple's ecosystem I kind of meant it as a burn yeah at me that was our show this week our first one on YouTube super excited that we're on YouTube superstar that we're talking to you it was really fun having this chat open and hearing for all of you while we do the show we're back every week Tuesday 4:00 p.m. Eastern on YouTube Ashley's gonna be here Jake's gonna be here Paul see me around me here we never run out of gadgets we've literally never run out of gadgets tweeted us let us know what you want to see on the show we will always bring here we will always plug it in we will always show you exactly how it works which is the most important thing we can do it's always the most fun so we'll see here next week 4 p.m. Tuesday