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Etymotic ER3XR & ER3SE - first impression

2018-11-19
hi everyone and welcome today I wanted to talk a little bit about the a thematic er3 series which comes in two different versions SS II which stands for studio edition or XR which stands for extended response but let's rather simply call it more base because apart from more base was for the X version they sound more is the same but please don't treat this as a kind of home review I just want to give you my personal impressions about this - my experience with them also I want to describe the sound as good as possible the differences in sound this time I cannot offer you any sound samples no measurements I did my best I tried to record and measure them with this system here but I failed remember a thematic in ears need a very deep seal so when I put it in here I already touched the microphone that you can L is much shorter here than from a normal human ear the ear geometry is completely different therefore I was measuring and recording just some maybe remember I reviewed the automatic MK 5 already before I already do some sound samples but post will really just rough approximations so I didn't want to do this with the ER 3 they sound really great so it's definitely a step up over the mk5 I got the Excel versions from messed up $150 so it's twice the price so is it worth twice the price over the mk5 I would say definitely because what I was missing here the Strebel definition is some some sparkle also some bass you definitely get from the ER three but one problem I have with all of them is how the sound changes depending on the tips all of them come with three different type of tips so with three flange small one a big one and foamies with home is this on like crap so you lose treble definition also bass is not that great when I tried the ER 3x aha for the very first time I tried them on the small tips but it's very hard for me to really get this deep seal I have to put them far inside they hurt so yeah you are probably for a raping I get a better seal maybe with the bigger ones but the sound changes again so with the big ones I lose treble I lose trailer definition but bass gets enhanced so that is immersion which at scale has quite a flat base so not boosted with the big tips and Lee sounds still not boosted but sounds really nicely defined with bass why the acceleration with the big tips sounds too booming together with the reduced treble it's a little bit yea muddy therefore hmm I like the Excel version with the small tips still I have some problems to fit there are some tutorial videos how to put them in so you have to hold your ear pull it up then I don't know I have my own way so I have to find the curves from my channel and and go around them so when I get a good fit a good seal with the small tips the sound is outstanding from both the only difference is that the XR has slightly more bass and as these tips probably reduce bass slightly I don't like the easy version that much with the big tips there is he has perfect bass but again and losing travel there is another trick that was suggested to me by John thanks John again for all those recommendations you did to cut the big tips just cut away the lowest biggest flange so you have a kind of B flange tip is the same here just you can see the bottom part is cut away and suddenly the mk5 gets closer to the ER 3 responds not as mid focused anymore base becomes pronounced and travel still ok it it makes this pattern so I tend to put up 16 kilohertz slightly I think that I have hardly any response above 16 17 so for all those who hear still until 22 kilohertz probably they won't like the automatic but what I love about them is that they sound so so true so how do they call this pretty precise or accurate they have a very accurate response so no Peaks no strange boosts treble everything sounds right yeah but again I have the problem that the sound changes so much the pennilyn tips the sound the change is not huge it's not but the balance changes so when I switch the small tips to the big ones bass gets more treble gets reduced you could maybe counter work with some adapter there are some some resistance adapters which again push treble but it was still not enough so I tried the SE version with the big tips or with the B flange which are way easier to put inside because they seal quite well don't need such a deep deep seal but even with the adapter I was missing treble while with these small ones yeah they hurt maybe I get used to them but the sound is really outstanding very very studio like very very I don't know very true very very direct you really have the impression as if you had it if it's a very heavy as if you had the music inside your head as if you were inside the music no strange Peaks no colorations and this is what I like about them the only problem I have is yeah this is this strange seal and tip fit the firmness didn't help the sound becomes just it's really very very dual I read some who claim that they get a great sound I wonder how I mean everyone has different ears therefore maybe you get completely different results depending on the pips but what I noticed is that the sound definitely changes between the small and the big ones and of course between to the phone is the mk5 with this be flange trick so cutting off the lowest flange already improve a lot for me because bass gets the perfect amount also the strange neat honky Ness gets lost why probably still ok but the TR 3x our the small tip still give you an additional step above but yeah you need a good seal a good fit so I'm not sure maybe if you get a good one with this you will probably not get the same sound and getting therefore also not that easy to really record them because this again reacts completely different than a human here sometimes it's enough that I put them inside one half a millimeter valance said and the sound already changes sometimes the treble subtly then lower treble it becomes emphasized so I pull my ear slightly and then it becomes okay again so this is really a tricky part I can only state that when you get the perfect treat the sound is perfect with both the AC and the X hours and just that they AC with these tips for my taste is a little bit proof let with bass so I prefer the X hours apart from that there is not much difference travel is nice maybe the extension is not there so you don't hear there the uppermost frequencies above 20 kilohertz but from alias it's just perfect because it's not colored in any way unlike most all the others I reviewed a fine but they are coloured to some degree those are not so you get reader response that you would get from a speaker standing outside in front of you which is which really really nice well there is also the ER for which is small s the same just met a quality-control better match drivers probably this used to I think to balanced amateur or is it just one I'm not sure I think to balance amateur this one has just one enemy to Anna so still quite impressive but again here you need to experiment a little bit with the tips the form is yeah for me I yes I won't use them at all then but you can try the big ones the small ones and get put them as deep inside as you really get everything blocked out these are also called isolator because when you really have the perfect seal the perfect I saw that everything around you you'll hear have anything they are much better than those nose and noise canceling headphones from Sony or Bose so all the hype around all this noise cancelling is just because those sound great and isolate anything away so much better than those active NC headphones so back to the automatic er 3 deathly nice not sure if the extra for the ER for which is smallish the same just better quality control but sound response should be the same it's again twice the price so I bought them for mass drop for 150 I think the ER for is over 300 350 hearing in Europe it's I think close to 400 euros so I'm quite satisfied with this enough you can also exchange cables they have the standard mm CX connector promise you cannot use a standardized cable because this is more recessed so you would need a cable like this which has them in the connector more exposed I try to exchange the cable for another one but I didn't manage and there's only one position where they snap in if the cable gets damaged we can of course exchange it but you would need the same for me read some fake replacements also comes with this this clip so that you don't get any any wire micro phonics noise they also have this let me see you can it's written that you can pull the add this here so you can pull this up and stiff it to your to your like this and there shouldn't be any cable noise but from that it also comes with some filter removal tool also with two additional filters which are here I didn't do now but when they get thanks to a wax when they become the rear or blocked somehow you can remove them and put in some some other ones from what I heard without filters they are very harsh so yet they do it quite an outstanding job to tune them to such a way that they offer I Otis this realistic accurate sound so yeah if I once managed to get real coolers I see something norm Duan I will try to record them maybe I will definitely keep the X hours also the mk5 I like them but the VR 3 X is definitely still one step above just more a hint I would say and quite impressive what you can get for $150 yeah I heard in years costing more than thousands crap but really crap so this is really upsetting if you are after a very true lifelike sound the automatic you have to try out if the XR doesn't have too much bass but it depends a lot on the tips here so this was my quick overview over both I like them both but I personally I prefer slightly more bass especially because I seem to lose bass with these small tips here I had the big ones boost bass especially if you cut them away maybe the fit is not as deep I'm not quite sure what was the reason for this why it's so dependent because a pad from the size there is not much difference between these tips you see just a diamond guy a diameter I still don't know how to pronounce in diameter but the sound chain is really a lot I think it just depends on how deep they are inside so with those probably not as deep as with the small ones the small ones get deeper inside closer to the ear drum also heard more as you get or at least I get a much clearer sound much nicer sound with less bass but therefore I like the exertion more yeah I think this was it nothing else to say really my personal reference currently for as accurate sound as possible but quite uncomfortable to carry because of this deep seal deep feet after first try on I had to recover my ears for some days because yeah I was I had them inside but I could feel that the seal is still not there so I took them out so I damaged my ear so also when wearing them can maybe wear them for 1-2 hours and then they become uncomfortable because you feel some pressure there are other tips maybe I could order some some second party ones just to try out maybe some soft once I noticed that then it's the it's easier to fit them when you pull the tip out slightly then you insert them and then when they are inside the ear you just press them deeper then it's easier to for me at least also the sound changes depending on how far usually you should put them to the very end but also quite funny is that there are tips this here have a longer stem and not sure if you can see this with in the video while this these here have a shorter one so you can change the tuning also depending on this stem length these are quite a bit longer about one millimeter maybe two millimeters longer than this and I prefer definitely those with the longest time this give better treble somehow so again my camera will stop in some minutes so thanks for watching I hope you liked it anyhow so for this improvisation but I just wanted to show you this I think they are really worth it but you need to experiment with tips and feet and everything yeah so in the next video bye bye you
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