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Headphone recordings - what to expect

2018-09-14
hi everyone and welcome today's topic is recording headphones and in-ear headphones how to record them is it possible does it make sense at all I think most of you are not even aware of it how much of an effort it is to offer you usable repeatable results it's not just that I take my banner on microphones put the headphone up press record and it will already sound like itself no far off but I could also use the ears measurement system not only for measurements but also for encodings set the headphone up here press record again but it will sound again off not like in reality it would need to be corrected compensated calibrated equalized whatever the ear system here comes already with different compensation or calibration curves for over years in years and so on there may be good for measurements but when listening to recordings done with this it's not what I hear in reality and this is where I spend most of my time lately simply to bring it to such a level where I would be satisfied so I said there until 4 o'clock in the night tweaking my parametric equalizers comparing back and forth between my recording and the original headphone and yeah I'm still not quite satisfied but I think I brought it to some level some status quo that I would like to demonstrate you so my goal is to offer you some headphone recordings also in recordings as samples simply as I think the headphone market is a completely overcrowded piece of also reviews professional reviews are praising headphones which I wouldn't even want to touch because they sound just horrible so headphones that cost three four thousand dollars really hyped brands you cannot listen to them it's horrible and in future maybe I would like or I would want to offer you some kind of database with different headphones also in years so that you can compare them by yourself and still not quite satisfied with with the results also I found that over ear headphones normal headphones give me better results when recorded directly with my ears here the year is quite quite stiff especially this lower part here so with some models I cannot get any good seal you can see they stick a bit but also depending on the position the the headphone will sound different I we need to clamp it down but how how strong shall I clamped in order to get a more realistic way therefore for over years I think my methods with binaural microphones does a better job but of course I cannot record in ears with my own ears I would need to have the microphone circle at the eardrum so I would maybe need some operation let let myself implant some microphones yeah that would be cool so I have to rely on this year's system and I'm still in the process of tweaking optimizing there's really lots of time therefore please understand that when I don't release many videos I do other stuff I know it's not that maybe the effort is not visible from my videos I never tried to offer you some fancy looking great cameras lights I rather concentrated on the audio quality it really took me lots of time to bring my traditional binaural recording technique to such a level where I will be satisfied but I would be self-conscious enough to release videos and say look I can tell you I know how it sounds in reality I know how my recording sounds so they are really close of course there needs to be some reference so Sennheiser HD 600 is my personal reference together with sauna works profile then city needs to be a basis at which we can build up if you use some crappy headphone from bits with bass boost it's I don't know without meat of course my recordings would sound off it's way more bass heavy than mine no it's not but there needs to be a quite a neutral sounding reference so what I wanted to demonstrate you here is my current status quo I have three headphones here this is the sennheiser HD 58 x jubilee from mez drop I would maybe want to make a review about it a more detailed one also comparing it to the HD 600 which is more or less based on I think this is better it cost half it's easier to drive as only 150 ohms compared to 300 and it has better bass while still sounding very very similar to the HD 600 so really quite a nice $450 I have the I've apology one here two hundred dollars and the tribe it ex-free tune I think around $50 and yeah let's listen to this I will just have maybe with the over here some track from so person and princess freesia it's a metal version by the way of course I apologize when I put the headphone up there will be the microphone will be touched so there might be maybe some distortion or some bass usually in a review I won't do this I will simply record it and cut it together afterwards but here I want to offer you some kind of life feeling me so I'm already wearing my banner microphones they are equalized for over years therefore a maybe appear little bit too sizzling my voice yeah but let's simply put up there I reckon I think we're here it's quite a bass heavy sound it's not neutral if we regard the Sennheiser it's a s neutral because here the bass really has a quite a flat response unlike with the HD 600 which drops off slightly we can also try the try bit which is quite a cheap for a cheap one but I think it sounds quite decent for this price again and last not least Sennheiser which is our reference let's say so definitely the most natural sounding wrong the drive it is not that far off simply more bass boosted with more treble but the I wa I read some reviews claiming that it has a natural sound on Amazon flat sound no it's not quite bass heavy or some meets slightly missing here yeah I'm in the process of preparing a review of it but it's not a neutral sounding headphone so maybe not the best only one if you read reviews there is lots of hype lots of red it's okay but it's certainly not the best and now again it's which the initial I have some from the cheapest one the ATR case at ATR I also have included the creative EP 630 raved about quite a lot some years ago maybe eight nine years ago but a really crappy they sound horrible good here's from recording was around twenty ten twenty dollars the ATR cost six you have to show me pro a show me in year pro not the HD version I think this one sounds smooth on some college I think piston others colleagues show me hybrid I'm not sure but this one around 20 dollars untangle this year I was included that 10 max although I'm not sure if my unit is representative the one for my friend also sounds crappy but I heard that there are others which sound better still my unit is really horrible also are twenty thirty dollars so the same price the case at zs6 horrible horrible really mark I'm not sure how people can like this or listen with this right here I have the brain waves a zero at some positive reviews just sounds I don't know like some you have worse than this ATR here while costing around forty dollars I think we are approaching fifty dollars already I tried different tips also stuffing any deeper listening at some but never got any great sound out of it it sounded just off to me so here we are at the $50 class I also included the South magic e10 that I only sent back because it was crap so you will hear this as well also around 40 $50 and I have the Iowas unmod it so $50 you will hear quite treble heavy although definitely way better than all the others and I also included my modded one here you can see mmm yes well it was not easy to record because the I used the largest tips here simply also to be able to accommodate my fleece that I'm using to filter out the treble and the year opening is very small here so all the time when I pulled them out the peeps were made inside and I had I had to reapply my mod which is not easy because I have four layers here and putting the tip on again was a hard task so I only did this thing recording with it otherwise I would have to make my mod again again and again but at least you can hear the difference between the modded and unloaded one i have the one more triple driver again with its stock tips also quite nice response you should hear it but definitely different to the Iowas and i also included a wireless one the Zola Liberty Plus through Wireless so you get two separate ones I have some models not all of them this is still quite a formal four hundred dollars and I think it's one of of the best which I have tried so far from all these it's not neutral but it has some EQ settings available from the app there is some solo app we can switch between I think jazz EDM pop classic and neutral or but neutral is not neutral I would choose J naught J solid classic with classic it sounds best for my ears with nice travel it sounds good signal Iowa although without with slightly less definition but for from all those true Wireless ones I have tried I didn't test many of them but this definition advanced also very nice precious metal packaging no problem so far except maybe some feet because when your ears start to sweat they tend to follow so press them inside a and you get some vacuum so they may become a bit uncomfortable and last at least I also wanted to include my ultimate yes three four five ten which is already quite old maybe ten years old and also here it sounds a bit of I'm using complex here for meas these are the ones that come with triple driver and because with normal seek on tips the travel is too thin to seasoning and with normal long accomplice it becomes too muddy so this is a nice compromise but it will here not that satisfied with the recording quality of the activity is over my equalizing I mean it catches the characteristics well but in reddit it sounds better it sounds more refined but yes so just take this don't take this as hundred percent but you should hear the relative difference is quite well so we'll hear the admit is simply like some lower mates babe maybe they try to opt for some some smooth response and took out all harshness in the 560 others because they definitely have some tip here right all the others sound rather neutral so I wanted to to cut it together again an electric from surface on British princess feature from the fast-forward album I will play the four first for bass will be do you the original track then I will start with the cheapest one the K is at ATR here and simply switch over to the other ones and I will also overlay some response some frequency response measurement so did you get an idea the response measurement was the frequency was measured with their in compensation curve I think I might do an HA video on this topic because I'm not that satisfied I mean if the compensation curve already screws up the audio so much I would like to show you how it measures with my own compensation let's say so yeah let's start with the cheapest one and later on we can maybe talk again a little bit you so what do you think what's your opinion which one did you like most which one was the worst I'm still not hundred percent satisfied with the result some sound really quite close to anything like the I was when switching between my recording and the original one I'm really close when others the argument is sounds a little bit off it might be a problem of this year's system that it's not consistent with it with each of them so depending on the India also depending a lot how how high is that if the song changes a lot the good thing is that at least I can listen already live with my equalizing superimposed how they would sound so I usually adjust it by hearing so when I just the left one I think so so I try to adjust it to not pull it too far inside because this will again make the song boom yeah I'd rather press it as far inside to get some seal and then treble will still be nice otherwise it will become some tamari so also that the position inside the ear changes the sound a lot so I have to experiment maybe a little bit further but I was quite shocked about the result of this EP 630 also this 10 makes the song magic based on just horrible maybe not as horrible in reality but why do the other sound great also quite surprised about the solo liberty plus here which sounds really nice also the triple driver but tell me your favorite which one's only best for you and in future yeah I might really try to again to some kind of database where I include all of them maybe not as advanced just a measurement audio recording and I want to limit the audio of maybe three four minutes it was way too long for my speaker audio database with 10 minutes recording every time so I want to maybe make some simpler with three four different tricks some more danceable track with really heavy bass that you can hear differences with bass well some rock inspired track maybe something from soul persona because I like his recording a lot they are very detailed from bass to travel everything is there very nice of open sounding also quite quite powerful so maybe three four tracks limited to one minute so I have a sample of three four minutes altogether and then you can switch between all of them but of course as it is now with my current resources and quite limited I invest lots of time into all this equalizing preparing optimizing and so on while what's coming back from YouTube currently this month I'm not even approaching $900 a month so imagine I have to buy measurement system I have to buy some headphones in videos and YouTube all the stuff is becoming nearly a full-time job for me so I will be depending on you mmm if you think it's great what I'm doing here I think it will be one one of its kind let's say currently there is nothing nowhere which offers you some samples realistic ones I know many are trying to record headphones I saw some video he recorded the Iowas and compared against aha it was not even something close to how they sound in reality so I just keep in mind there has to be a reference in my case is that it's the HT 600 with sauna Berg's profile but if you use some other one also if sauna works profile they should be at least equalized to such a way that we use the same same target so in future I don't know I will maybe start some some other way of income because just with YouTube videos I don't get the amount of views I would need to really afford all this to offer you a new database also great recordings for any kind I have all that lots of in use rather low budget stuff all those that were suggested to me from China different models that in Tipu which a bit more expensive the price of the I were some other ones I don't even remember so there is lots of stuff coming but I'm reconsidering starting some patreon stuff because I cannot afford it with nine hundred dollars a month it's impossible impossible for me therefore if you think or if you want to support me you will have to support me either through party patreon I haven't studied it yet I'm just thinking about it but just with YouTube I'm not getting the views that the publicity I would need to really offer you something I don't want to give us some wishy-washy results with usual videos some whole try ons take it millions of views some tapes showing the boobs in brass I don't know with 5000 subscribers and views 5 million views my most viewed video was the one from the GBO boom box with 1 million views when I was inside the pool and I never get this amount of views ever it is about maybe 5000 views so impossible to me to survive with this and I may just stop all this because YouTube becomes too exhausting too time-consuming to to simply too stressful I have always limited time for my videos mmm and very very nervous because either my wife comes in half an hour and I have to finish everything within half an hour or yeah you probably notice then that I'm really nervous it's this trust because I'm stressed I want to I have to talk in a foreign language I want to to talk to offer you something and and have a limited time have as soon as the camera runs and I'm starting to becoming Green Arrow's so hey it's really becoming I'm really thinking of stopping of this again because it it's in no relation to what comes back what I put in maybe it's not visible from my videos because I don't have fancy looking ones with great overlays and and I know some move camera slides and I don't use full-frame because yeah and whatever so my videos I never concentrated on the looks of my videos I really put my most effort into sound quality already with my binaural recordings for speakers took me lots of time to bring it so far and I know many apply binaural recording technique meanwhile don't want to say any names there were other videos before using some Roland's the cs10 or something I also started with these but the results are not lifelike so I started to try optimizing my technique so that I can say look I can offer you this because I know it's true if you listen to a Sennheiser HD excited you will hear how it sounds in reality more less and others no simply press record it's not it's not so easy to record your ambience in a realistic way so that it really represents the reality I hadda still either record their speaker videos with the camera microphone even mono and I saw some video really three or four times as much subscribers as I have and he compared the CAF Wireless because for $2000 again some two hundred and through his video the 201 sounded better I'm not sure what he was capturing what what he was trying to demonstrate because with his recording quality it was just the cheaper want sounded better to me therefore this is not what I want to I want to really give you the best and therefore I'm struggling because I'm not satisfied yet so this is just my current status I will try to optimize it in future also experiment more with placing of the in ears I really wanted to send it back but maybe I will keep it it's not cheap hearing in Europe 250 260 euros so also some investment but the the YouTube ad sense I get is just ridiculous compared to what I put into these videos maybe it's not visible I'm not sure so then your pinion about NES how I should proceed in future if it makes sense at all recording them but also measurements just don't show how they sound in reality tell me what do you like what you don't like what do you expect in future I'm really curious to hear the new models that will arrive soon from China probably in one month but lots of this stuff the case that are cheaper in Aliexpress or somewhere else so I will try to get these and yeah until then I hope I will optimize my recording technique to such a level that they become all comparable so now I'm still not quite satisfied and I'm not sure if I will ever be maybe it's the if the system's here fault because it's not consistent it's not a human ear the microphone is one and a half centimeters behind this opening here it usually you can tell is much longer so I would like to try a standard as I standardized IEC something or a standardized system and also do some recordings with it I cannot afford it if I again had to spend twenty thousand dollars just for this some work I yeah I would I would need to be some media yeah then I would of course do this build up some studio here and just to offer you some kind of best quality yeah I think this was it nothing else to say coming lots of other stuff not only headphones also some speakers that I'm quite back just because I wanted to invest some time into all this - to see - also if it's possible because there were some headphone recordings already with a summer sense the out of business I think not sure why so they did already but I think I haven't seen any in life like any recording so far so it made might be one of its kind what I'm trying to perfection eyes though to bring it to perfection currently of course lots of research is done another scientists or from it's more trial and error but maybe will be a will get at this goal where I can say yeah guys listen it's like it is in reality or not so thanks for watching thanks for our patients became a bit longer I didn't want to bore you just wanted to show you what I'm working on so when there is some longer time without videos keep in mind I have a family whether it's great outside so I prefer staying outside going into the forest with my son spending some time there and at night instead of sleeping I try to he could have smell recordings listening back and forth so it's really it's really exhausting hence I'm at the point where I think either I stop all this or I look for another job because it's it's impossible to survive with all this YouTube income $900 a month come on and feed a family buy stuff and so on so if I didn't have another half-time job it would be impossible so maybe I would really start this patreon finding not sure how I haven't even informed myself but yeah this was it thanks again for your patience thanks again if you stayed until the very end I really didn't want to bore anyone simply also talked a little bit about my frustration thought of this watched some videos lately really millions of views for some way stupid showing off their boobs and esses I'm really wondering what the people what people are looking at here you haven't maybe if I was a girl I would maybe also show off my great figure if I had one when I was a young I didn't look like this still had muscles you know wouldn't become older everything becomes old so I'm stopping now thanks for watching and see you next video bye
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